The thing i dont understand about younis khan ..

is that people are talking about him becoming the future captain

back in the days they use to chose captain by how much the person does for the country , how many matches he wins , how many matches he saves , they use to look at stats and so many other things

now a days , they look at "Potential" umm what else "Leading capabilities" umm what else .. "Positive Attitidue"

if u ask me , its pretty stupid. I never understood why Michael Vaughn became captain , and i asolutely still dont understand why Graeme Smith is a captain.

Just cause Imran Khan thinks highly of Younis khan and younis khan has played four to give good innings in his career lol ( all against india ofcourse). Why exactly are we chosing him as captain.

If i had a say i would prefer , actually i dont know who i wud prefer i wud stick wid inzi until either shoaib matures or afridi becomes consistent ( coz afridi has been in the pak cricket team the longest after inzi )

Younis Khan, has the qualities to be a leader. He has the potential, because it's evident from the way he carries the team spirit when he's on the field. He has leading capabilities, because he handles pressure well and doesn't panic when the going gets tough, which obviously is positive attitude.

Now, to your query as to why captains aren't being chosen based on, "What they do for their country". I'm sure you meant, based on performance, and correct me if I'm wrong. Younis Khan in the past four series we have played against, West Indies, England, India, and Srilanka, has fared off extremely well. I'm not a stats man, so I'm afraid someone's going to have to do the dirty work here. He has made tons after tons against India. He's made a pile of runs against the other three oppositions as well.

Plus, like you stated in your post, Imran Khan rates him highly.

What more do you want?

good points, but ur also forgetting that englands bowlers were injured and sri lankan bowlers were injured too
and west indies lol .. joke

yes indeed he has played some disgusting games against india , but that doesnt mean he can be captain man


seriously afridi/akhtar shud be more consistent and mature fast. any of those 2 being captain wud be really something new.

its pretty eay to see younis carrying himself on the field. he looks like a leader and pakistan has never had such an instance where choosing a captain would be an easy decision. the guy plays for the team, and can take pressure. i also like his attacking approach which would go well with the kind of attacking players we have always produced. a very good choice.

by the way, dont tell me u r trying to find something wrong with imran's chpice again. people have been talking about him befor eimran supported him for the post. i remember coach richard pybus saying that younis should lead pakistan.

I think what young Arqum is trying to say is:

How do you guys feel about Rana being given the captaincy?

Afridi/Akhtar as captain ...you will need two ready replacements for them then

One injures every time the wind blows and other one finds new ways to retire/unretire

Gotta run now

If that happens, one thing is for sure...Rana will never lose a toss when they say 'Head or Tail'

The shine emanating from his ganj/tindh will render the opposing captain momentarily Annaah (blind) and hence Rana will be able to claim 'I won the toss', every time

Just when i thought YK had shut all the critics up one manages to find a way to open his mouth

what more does YK have to do to prove his class?
The guy has been MAGNIFICENT since BW took charge, he has been performing pretty much in every series since then - also he has shown when he has had the opportunity that he is a good captain

We all realize that Younis Khan, has not been a consistent performer over his career, but then again in the last year and a half, he has reached new heights. After Imran Khan went media with the leading capabalities younis khan possessed, Younis Khan went high on confidence, and then which spurred him on to become an integral part of our squad. After Inzi leaves, there will be a huge gap to fill in. After Inzamam, i see younis khan being the 2nd most respected and listened to team member. I at times feel younis khan is a bit too soft. Always picking up the ball and tossing it to fielders, and smiling that goofy smile of his. But then maybe thats his way of dealing with stress, so we can't exactly blame him for that, because there is enough pressure in the international level. I dont see any other replacement better then younis khan, after inzi retires. Youhana needs to concentrate on his batting, and i dont see him as a regular captain. Afridi is afridi, and i think he has alot more to prove, if he wants to be a serious contender for the captiancy. S. Akhtar is our indespinsable bowler, and we need him to concentrate on his bowling and fitness.

all i know is no damn idiot sitting outside, watching cricket on tv sitting in his couch and posting crap on the web can seriously judge how much value a player can bring as a captain or vice captain.. thats upto the selectors and pros and younis khan kissi ki phoophi ka putter nahi hai.

Theres one thing I dont understand about him - or something that he did. I wont go into that though

YK has played good innings against many teams, not just India.

well said monsee

Asalaam alikum Wr Wb Brothers;

Younis khan is not india killer only, he has of late perfomed outstandingly against other oppositions too. The past 12 -15 months he has certainly reached new heights in his career due to new found confidence and back up support from inzamam,bob woolmer and the great imran khan. Maybe his countless match winning tons and other valuable 50s to come against australia,south africa and england on their soil will prove some critics wrong perhaps. I adamantly believe younis khan has the credentials to do so and he will INSHALLAH.

There is no doubt that is the best option pakistan management will have for leading pakistan in future. He's aggressive,postive,innovative,enthusiastic and much more pro active. He will make a great successor to inzamam ul haq after the 2007 world cup. Afridi and akhter are not the right choice, afridi needs to show greater consistency with his immense talent(even though he has improved a lot recently). Akhter really would never be the right choice cause of his incessant injuries, he's better off just concentrating on his fitness.

hahahahaha ur funny ;)

be realistic, do u have a better option?

and dont give me useless answers like afridi, shoaib, etc.

Why is it that a question mark has to be placed on absolutely everyblessed thing that you hear?!
But yeah YK is a great choice for Captain. I think he should be brought in first thing after the WC 07. He's very innovative, a thinking, team player, and above all he's shown that he has the resolve to over come challenges as and when they surface. His batting in recent times has shown that.
He has the capacity to unit the team under his command, after Imran i'd say he's the next obvious and natural leader of men. So why not?

I cant believe that Arqum suggested Afridi and Shoaib as potential captains. Anyone who needs to be explained why these two are not good choices needs to learn a whole lot about the game before they can make comments about the players who play the game at the highest level.

arqum dude keep up the gud work... u hav everything to be a pcb chairman!

I'll leave the YK discussion to others. Michael Vaughan has been a wonderful captain for England and carried on Nasser's good work, his form with the bat has gone down the pan but based on captaincy alone he has been one of the most important factors of a successful England team, along with Flintoff and Duncan Fletcher

Afridi as Pakistan captain? Yes please.

Although I'd watch from a safe distance of course.

i can captain england , its a joke

just give flintoff as many overs as possible
and let him bat at any position available
and i am set to win the match

Well Vaughan got it for scoring 500000 runs against Australia. Younis is touted as a future captain based on Imran's recommendation and scoring 50000000 runs against India.

Younis hasnt played anyone else besides india. Anyhow though he has one of the most superb techniques in the team after inzi. I mean and he is fighter a great fielder. What else do you need. I mean Inzis batting improved leaps and bound after the captaincy and same with imran. There is no way of predicting how he will do, but he has talent and if he can grow with that talent he will be great. Also the other problem is there is no one else. Shoaib and afridi give me a break. Shoaib wouldnt be healthy last a month and afridi cant produce a fighting innings if his life depended on it.

i wonder what younis khans average is if u dont include the matches vs india

garanteed it wud be in the high teens or low 20s lol

Still averages near 40. Not the greatest average, but still not that bad, considering he was not in the form he is in now, when he first started.

Also on another note, since 2004, he has averaged 50+ in that calender year. In 2004 he took on Australia, 2005 he played India and West Indies away along with facing a ashes winning English team and in 2006 just played India(on flat wickets, so taht is the only instance of it being easy) and against Sri Lanka at home with Murali.

I wonder what your score would be if you took a IQ test. "garanteed it wud be in the high teens or low 20s lol"

Nah he still has a good record against Sri Lanka
BTW, people might not remember but in our trashing against Australia, Younis was by far our best and most consistent batsman.

I don't think there are many better players of spin bowling than Younis Khan, but he still needs to prove himself against quality pace bowling! His record against good pace attacks isnt that great so let's see how he does in ENG!

That was really frustrating to watch him on that tour, he'd play well and get starts then kept throwing it away with stupid shots when he looked like going on to make a big hundred.

True, he did keep throwing away his starts but unlike some batsmen there (farhat for example) looked totally out of their depth, or (like Moyo) had one good innings and nothing else all tour

ok the question is

who will take over after younis khan

then definitely its gonna be afridi/akhtar

Garanteed

I guarantee its not going to be Shoaib after Younis cause Shoaib doesnt have more than 4 years left (bearing in mind Inzi will probably play for 2 of them).

If YK becomes the next skipper of pakistans ODI team then the team will be in a sutuation similar to englands ODI team with micheal vaughan. The team will have a skipper whose only in the team to toss the coin because his batting in odis is pathetic to say the least. Take out minnows and his average is in the mid 20s.

Good leader or not he needs to earn a place as an ODI batsmen 1st on merit. sadly thats not the case.

I understand what your saying but his test match form is excellent and hes started to score runs in ODIs too. SO in a way he is beginning to justify his position

Don't feed the troll...

he has earned his place at the odi level and played w/more consistency then all other batsmen barring inzy and malik in the odi level. he is the best choice right now and i see him improving as a batsman as well after he becomes this team's captain.

My head agrees with the choice of Yk. He is very professional in his outlook (even though he has a goofy smile at times), is focused and proud to be in the team. I also feel that he wants to do well and likes to be in the thick of things. That is why Ponting is so good as a captain too.

My heart says afridi or shoaib - but as many have said...that will not and should not happen as both of them are "free spirits" to put it diplomatically.

some people have suggested Malik...but he is only findign his feet and is a great guy...let us not burden him now...he may make a good deputy though.

what people are forgetting is, that younis khan became a permanent member of the team not so long ago......if it were upto me then after inzi i would have 2 captains in test matches ok younis is fine but in one dayers i would rather have either shoaib malik or abdul razzak!

Any proof to support youre comments?

yunis khan is not even our 3rd 4th or 5th best batsman lol

and he does not bowl

why exactly is he becomin captain

to people who argue wid my first sentence plz enlighten me

Our best batsman in order ( not talking about whos in form and whos not)
1) inzi 2) yusuf 3) Shoaib 4) Akmal 5) Afridi/Razzak