What about Billy Doctrove?

Its true Doctrove was never combative throughout the whole of the controversy and has kept an especially low profile after the match ended but the fact remains that he was a party to this whole business of penalty runs and forfeiture of match. If you saw the last moments of the match you will agree that it was Billy Doctrove who was first to remove the bails from one end - Hair removed his set of bails a few seconds later.
True, Doctrove didnt do silly things like asking for money and his past record isnt that bad either. However, Pakistan should now use this opportunity to rub his name through mud too and announce that they wont accept Doctrove either in any of their future matches. This will teach him a lesson for siding with a bully and also will be a warning for other officious umpires to keep their job rather than trying to become stars themselves.
Lets not let Doctrove come out of this mess unscathed. He deserves punishment too, albeit a little less than Hair but he deserves a kick in the groin for the benefit and "repute" of the game of cricket.

Why? Why lose the edge that we have at the moment. What good comes out of this?

It's called hot pursuit. In other words, make the most of it when you have the edge. Bury this officious attitude thing once and for all. Make it a stark reminder to all "budding" umpires what their status and importance is.
Believe me if this opportunity is capitalized, we shall see greatly improved levels of cricket.

y y what. His was equally accomplice in bringing the so-called disreputation to the name of the Cricket, therefore he is evenly liable to stand the brunt of any ruling, if ever there takes place any against the combination-Hair.. Doctrove.

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looks like billy got away with it

That blind poodle needs to be kicked in the unmentionables...HARD!

Momo...

A couple of points.

1. Doctrove was certainly involved but if you watch a video of the incident you can see that he is, basically, taking a back seat. Hair was the 'senior' umpire there and Doctrove was obviously too scared or too much of a chamcha to disagree with him. He must have though 'oh this man (fat man) has umpired in 75 tests. He must know what he is talking about'. You cannot really blame Doctrove because everything was coming from Hair.

2. If you watch carefully........Doctrove did not knock the bails to the ground (signal that the game is over). He put them in his pocket! (which shows he thought the game could still go on and had NOT been forfeited).

^These umpires make a lot of money officiating matches. Therefore the argument that Hair was calling the shots is not a good one.

Billy was part and parcel to the decision to change the ball. If ball tampering charges cannot be proved, he deserves equal punishment!

Yes it is hard to see why, but Billy kept his profile low on purpose. He kept things down, unlike Hair who started doing crazy stuff from the start. Also because Hair accused them of cheating, not Billy.

I think we should appreciate Billy's role in proceedings. Whilst he was a prosecution witness, this mumbling excuse of an umpire must have been a superb witness to cross examine.

Doctrove was on Sky news yesterday speaking to reporters, appearing agitated and barely able to striing 2 words together - thank you Billy.

However I still dont forgive you for role in cheating Pakistan out of their first series win in the Windies

Doctrove is new to this level. He has been involved in controversial decision against Pakistan in the test series in WI 7-8 years ago. But from what I read some place Doctrove kind of hesitated or was in line with talking to Inzi but Hair was more adament about changing the ball (probably cited some laws) and Doctrove gave in. Doctrove is like a newcomer at job following the senior

I think what is required is a request from the PCB to the ICC, without necessarily targetting Doctrove (we do not want another elite panel umpire bearing a grudge against us) to include in their umpiring guidelines that BOTH umpires are EQUAL on the field of play. There should be no acceptance of rank on grounds of who has more years or number of matches.

The reason for them being equal should be made clear by use of the Doctrove - Hair incident, where one umpire was able to prevail on the other to the detriment of cricket. A dual judgement is a safeguard which is compromised, if one umpire feels he is junior and must go along with the senior. NO senior, junior in future.

There are 2 incorrect umpiring decisions that still haunt me to this day! You have mentioned about the 1st one which went in favour of Jimmy Adams. The other one went in favour of Langer during the 1999 Hobart test! It was a similar sort of an edge and was heard all over the ground yet the umpire managed to miss it. If that decision had gone our way we would have tied the series but it wasn't to be and we were swept 3-0 and have gone on lose 7 more test matches in a row to the Aussies!
Coincidentally both times it was a left hander and both times the unlucky bowler was Wasim!

The oval fiasco just put icing on cake as far as Doctroves incomitent umpiring is concerned!

Billy made the usual excuse

"youre just accusing because of my color"