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Old 2nd September 2006, 20:12
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Graeme Smith slams Pietersen

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Graeme Smith, the South African captain, has slammed Kevin Pietersen for criticising South Africa's selection policies and blaming them for his move to England.

"I'm patriotic about my country, and that's why I don't like Kevin Pietersen," Smith told Super Cricket. "The only reason that Kevin and I have never had a relationship is because he slated South Africa. It was his decision to leave and that's fine, but why does he spend so much time slating our country?"

In an exclusive extract from his new book Crossing The Boundary, being serialised in the Daily Mail, Pietersen said that he was left out of the Natal side in 2000 because of the prevalent quota policy. "The system is ********," Pietersen wrote. "It created an artificial team and that will never do anything to encourage the racial integration of cricket in South Africa." He said that he and his father tried to reason with Phil Russell, Natal's coach, but got nowhere.

Pietersen called Smith, who had made "snide comments" during England's tour of South Africa in 2004-05, an "absolute muppet". He added that the angry reception he got had upset his parents. "They knew I would get some stick, but didn't expect it to be that bad. Neither did I."

However, Smith said that it was Pietersen's own fault. "If he had kept his mouth shut he would have had far fewer people angry at him and he would have taken far less flak from the crowds. Wait until he gets to Australia, the abuse will be far worse there."

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Old 2nd September 2006, 20:14
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Smith strikes me as a somewhat immature character who has too much to say on the field.

He would be better served keeping his mouth shut and concentrating on his captaincy which is often mediocre.

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Old 2nd September 2006, 20:17
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Lol, I can see this getting a little interesting...

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Old 2nd September 2006, 20:17
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Both KP and Smith are suffering from acute bawaseer of the mouth.

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Old 2nd September 2006, 20:18
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Tough one - I dont like when either shoot their mouth off.

Let the Afrikaaners battle amongst themselves!

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Old 2nd September 2006, 21:34
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Graeme Smith i am afraid is a very rude guy. From all his interviews and comments leading up to a series he always engages in verbal banter with the opposition whether it be Stephen Flemming (one of the nicer guys in the game), Michael Vaughan, Shane Warne e.t.c. Its a good thing that in our part of the world we are taught to respect our elders and not call them by their first names. I remmember when Kepler Wessels passed some advise onto Smith and told him to chose his words carefully (this was when SA toured AUS) and Smith retorted back telling Wessels to shut up and saying he had no right to make the comment since he sucked as a captain during his reign. Then i remmember when he publicly insulted Lance Klusenar by saying he was a disruptive influence on the SA team. He made racial comments to Dwayne Bravo after he got his 100, calls Michael Vaughan Gay unneccessarily and just read Vaughan Biography when he says that Smith testified against Vaughan to the match refree unneccessarily showing no diplomacy what so ever and as a result vaughan lost his match fees. I still remmember when Andrew Hall elbowed Youhanna deliberately in the Lahore ODi and Youhanna reacted, and Smith went all the way screaming to youhanna. If i was Youhanna i would have punched him in the face there and then.

Anyways my point beeing this guy is getting to big for his boots. He became captain at a very young age, so obviously he is more than greatful to SA cricket. Next time Shoaib bowls to Smith he should bowl the same beamer he attempted at Dhoni to Smith this time only straighter.

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Old 2nd September 2006, 21:40
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Don't suppose anyone has been reading his extracts from the Daily Mail? They've been very insightful about his relationship to South African cricket. It seems from what he's saying that he's got every right to be angry at the way he was treated. Smith on the other hand doesn't come across as the most appealing guy. He is far too opinionated.

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Old 2nd September 2006, 21:43
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He is a bully and not a surprise he is acting this way. Mind you, KP is no polished element of the sophisticated society. Thug vs Thug

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Old 2nd September 2006, 22:14
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Two of my least favourite cricketers washing thier dirty linen in public.

The one known as ''Awesome'' sits and laughs from the sidelines.

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Old 2nd September 2006, 22:28
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Both of them need to grow up.

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Old 2nd September 2006, 23:27
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Its easy to play the race card when you averaged 18 with the bat and more than double that with the ball. Had nothing to do with the fact that his record at the time was mediocre

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Old 2nd September 2006, 23:29
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Haha! When I read the title of this thread I thought it would involve a wrestling match between these two!

It's all handbags if you ask me.

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Old 2nd September 2006, 23:32
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KP should think back to why these quotas had to be introduced. Years of injustice under Apartheid perhaps???

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Old 2nd September 2006, 23:35
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let the Gloves come off, & let the Battles begin....

When are England playing South-Africa next , please say in next months champions trophy

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Old 3rd September 2006, 00:24
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Well said Mr. Graeme Smith. Well said.

Pietersen is a selfish, money hungry traitor...who is attacking is place of origin...just for the sake of being in the Engish side, and hence in the limelight.

Would love to see a punch up between those two. I think Pietersen would give it the large and then probably run like a CHICKEN.

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Old 3rd September 2006, 08:48
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Don't suppose anyone has been reading his extracts from the Daily Mail? They've been very insightful about his relationship to South African cricket. It seems from what he's saying that he's got every right to be angry at the way he was treated. Smith on the other hand doesn't come across as the most appealing guy. He is far too opinionated.


So if you can please elaborate on a point. What is the policy of Natal team composition? I don't think it can be of "all-colored". So a player like Pieteresen was not good enough, he says, of taking a single slot reserved for whites in a provincial team?

Regarding Smith, he is a brash insolent fool who is taking SA team down.

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Old 3rd September 2006, 14:04
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So if you can please elaborate on a point. What is the policy of Natal team composition? I don't think it can be of "all-colored". So a player like Pieteresen was not good enough, he says, of taking a single slot reserved for whites in a provincial team?

Regarding Smith, he is a brash insolent fool who is taking SA team down.

It was not quite the way he made it out to be, but a team will struggle to pick a player who is averaging 18 with the bat and 37 with the ball, and not vice versa.

I agree with whatever has been said about Smith though

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Old 3rd September 2006, 14:37
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Well said Mr. Graeme Smith. Well said.

Pietersen is a selfish, money hungry traitor...who is attacking is place of origin...just for the sake of being in the Engish side, and hence in the limelight.

Would love to see a punch up between those two. I think Pietersen would give it the large and then probably run like a CHICKEN.


Selfish? Money-Hungry?

Why is that?

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Old 3rd September 2006, 14:41
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Just two attention seekers having a go at each other.

Pietersen the batsman, I am very impressed with. Pietersen, the person, is a thug. As is Graeme Smith.

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Old 3rd September 2006, 14:43
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KP and smith is truely a match made in heaven!

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Old 3rd September 2006, 14:45
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No matter what Smith says, RSA bowlers were made to bow to pieterson in the 2005 series!

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Old 3rd September 2006, 15:18
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I agree with both. Pieterson was good enough but was held by the quota system...no point involving apatheid system - albeit understand reasoning of the quota system introduced...If he didnt get games he would probably still stuck there right now.

Plus, it sounds like if he had to choose ..he would of chosen south africa everytime.

but, Pieterson's comments aren't helpful.

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Old 4th September 2006, 13:08
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A response to Pieterson from a black South African:

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AS a black South African who grew up under apartheid, I feel I must respond to some of the things cricketer Kevin Pietersen wrote under the headline ‘Out of Africa for being white’ (Mail).
I was born in 1972, four years before the June 16 massacre of innocent Soweto students who didn’t want to be taught in Afrikaans. Steve Biko died in prison for voicing his opinion about the white apartheid government. Nelson Mandela spent 27 years in prison because he wanted to live in a free country where every human being had a vote.
In 1989, I was admitted to Natal University in Durban to study medicine but couldn’t stay on the main campus because it was in an all-white suburb. The blacks were housed in Austerville, next to the Mobil oil refinery.
We could not do our ‘rotation’ at Addington Hospital because it was an all-white hospital. Nor could we swim at Addington Beach. My first opportunity to vote was in 1994. All this was happening in Natal — the province Kevin Pietersen says discriminated against him on the basis of colour.
Kevin says he’s not racist, apartheid was none of his doing and is now a thing of the past. As a black South African who lived and breathed apartheid, I know its scars will never go away. It will take a long time before things are the same for all races in South Africa.
Mr Pietersen shouldn’t compare his not making the Natal team because of the quota system, to what we went through under white rule in South Africa. He always had a choice: the majority of South Africans never did.
Kevin made his choice and is now an Englishman. I’ll always be a proud South African and will embrace all the changes that are happening in my country to make it a better place for the generations to come.
Dr VIRGIL ROZANI,
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Old 4th September 2006, 20:16
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KP shoots his mouth off a bit but as long as it's to sponges like Smith, I won't blame him for it. Nobody likes Graeme Smith it seems, he fully deserves all the grief fellow cricketers give him. He has no right to act so rudely to people who have achieved a lot more than he has, ok so Smith got given the captaincy at a very young age, but that was because nobody else could do it (Pollock was disgraced, Kallis had enough on his plate already, as for the rest...) but the power has gone to his head. The comment Shane Warne made about him that 'if you opened an egg on his face it would be boiled in a minute' was hilarious to say the least.

Pietersen is a cocky so-and-so, we all know that, but he usually backs up his claims with results, and has gotten used to proving his critics wrong over the last couple of years. He also seems like a bloke that won't say something unless he has good reason to. Smith meanwhile, seems to always prove his critics right with the frequent, childish outbursts. The abuse that Smith predicts KP will get from the Aussie crowds will happen, partly because of KP's past success against them and also because he is a 'love to hate' character. But I remember last time he didn't have a friend in the world outside his own camp (touring South Africa), it just made him play better, so he will welcome the abuse.

And for those of you who are wondering, SA are my second team and I am half South african.

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Old 4th September 2006, 21:38
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oh the dilemas KP is facing these days

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Old 4th September 2006, 22:01
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Does anyone remember what happened KP was shooting his mouth off?

Ok, here's a reminder to those who don't:

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...ead.php?t=21795

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Old 4th September 2006, 22:03
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Who can forget that Raz!

That was a duel of beastly proportions.

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