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Old 24th September 2006, 13:47
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Brett Lee at top of ODI tree Again

2005 Top wicket takers in ODIS.

Name Mat O M R W Ave Best 4w 5w SR Econ Team

B Lee 26 225.5 23 1017 51 19.94 5-41 2 1 26.5 4.50

Naved-ul-Hasan 22 188.1 6 969 45 21.53 6-27 1 1 25.0 5.14

GD McGrath 22 187.1 31 684 37 18.48 5-27 1 1 30.3 3.65

M Ntini 21 172.1 11 818 36 22.72 4-46 1 - 28.6 4.75

IK Pathan 20 161.2 14 809 32 25.28 5-27 1 1 30.2 5.01

2006 Top wicket takers in ODIS (before todays DLF final).

Name Mat O M R W Ave Best 4w 5w SR Econ Team

B Lee 20 180.4 10 867 34 25.50 5-22 2 2 31.8 4.79

NW Bracken 17 146.4 15 656 33 19.87 5-67 1 1 26.6 4.47

Mash Mortaza 17 149.2 16 647 32 20.21 6-26 1 1 28.0 4.33

IK Pathan 18 134.4 13 656 30 21.86 4-51 1 - 26.9 4.87

AB Agarkar 19 151.1 9 657 26 25.26 2-22 - - 34.8 4.34

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Brett Lee for 2nd year running could be the leaidng wicket taker in odis across the world.

He seems to have become more consistant in his performances.

Thoughts on Brett Lee in ODIS?

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Old 24th September 2006, 13:49
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Excellent bowler; don't forget that he has the luxury of McGrath at the other end.

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Old 24th September 2006, 13:51
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Poor economy rate though.

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Old 24th September 2006, 13:53
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Brett Lee has been brilliant in the shorter form of the game for a while. He has not shown the same kind of form in Tests, though.

There is no doubt who is faster between Akhtar and Lee though, Lee was not even clocking 90 MPH on most occasions. Does anyone know his average speed?

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Old 24th September 2006, 13:55
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He is a good ODI bowler that has a team that supports him in the field, good support bowlers and a solid batting line up.

He would probably trade his ODI performances in to become a better Test bowler.

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Old 24th September 2006, 13:56
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Poor economy rate though.

He can afford it when he has McGrath at the other end. Today's match a case in point.

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Old 24th September 2006, 13:57
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Brett Lee has been brilliant in the shorter form of the game for a while. He has not shown the same kind of form in Tests, though.

There is no doubt who is faster between Akhtar and Lee though, Lee was not even clocking 90 MPH on most occasions. Does anyone know his average speed?



his highest was clocked at 92 mph at the highest and his average speed which is a guess is around 86-88 mph

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Old 24th September 2006, 13:58
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Poor economy rate though.


4.79 for a genuinue Fast bowler and wicket taker isnt to Bad.

Once it gets above 5 then its a worry!

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Old 24th September 2006, 13:59
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I dont see a problem with Lee's economy rate considering the fact that he constantly picks up wickets

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Old 24th September 2006, 13:59
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Lee has had superb couple of overs in the odis and it helps that McGrath is at the other end. Boy the more i look at it the more I see similarities between shoaib and Asif vs McGrath and Lee

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Old 24th September 2006, 14:00
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Poor economy rate though.



you are spoiled

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Old 24th September 2006, 14:04
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There is no doubt who is faster between Akhtar and Lee though, Lee was not even clocking 90 MPH on most occasions. Does anyone know his average speed?


Jeez, it's all about pace with you lot isn't it?

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Old 24th September 2006, 14:06
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Jeez, it's all about pace with you lot isn't it?



It used to all pace for me too but Mohammad Asif changed my mind.

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Old 24th September 2006, 14:06
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Jeez, it's all about pace with you lot isn't it?


Here we go again with Evertonfan.

Notice that I said this before the part you quoted:
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Brett Lee has been brilliant in the shorter form of the game for a while. He has not shown the same kind of form in Tests, though.

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Old 24th September 2006, 14:07
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Since 250 is hardly a winning score these days, an econ of under 5 is very acceptable. 4.5 is the new 4

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Old 24th September 2006, 14:16
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Brett Lee has been brilliant in the shorter form of the game for a while. He has not shown the same kind of form in Tests, though.

There is no doubt who is faster between Akhtar and Lee though, Lee was not even clocking 90 MPH on most occasions. Does anyone know his average speed?


well he's right now faster then Akhtar, but Akhtar is coming back from injury. So the pace battle will just have to wait another couple of months until Shoaib gets back into full fitness. Lee's clocking 150 K's easily. Top speed of 95, average around 90

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Old 24th September 2006, 15:07
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Here we go again with Evertonfan.

Notice that I said this before the part you quoted:


Please don't insult my intelligence by qoting your message which I have already read.

I said that because you posted that Akhtar was faster when we all know that anyway. I wasn't accusing you of downplaying Lee, i'm just saying that you posted an unneccessary point.

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Old 24th September 2006, 15:10
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Please don't insult my intelligence by qoting your message which I have already read.


You are insulting your own intelligence, man.

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Old 24th September 2006, 15:11
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Brett lee has been an awesome performer in Last 5 years of odi cricket!

2002-2006 record

109 odis 199 wkts @ 21.53 econ 4.64 s.r 27.8 --- 9 (4w) 5 (5w)

wkts per match - 1.83

Hes been probably the best performing bowler in Last 5 years of ODI cricket and i doubt that in history of game many bowlers have performed as well over a period of 5 years!

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Old 24th September 2006, 15:33
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Since 250 is hardly a winning score these days, an econ of under 5 is very acceptable. 4.5 is the new 4


When Aussies get 250 or less in a final they tend to defend it. Remember the VB series finals v Pakistan?

Australia always when defending always go for the jugular and have more often than not put oppostion 20/3, 38/4 etc... when in such situations.

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Old 24th September 2006, 16:28
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well he's right now faster then Akhtar, but Akhtar is coming back from injury. So the pace battle will just have to wait another couple of months until Shoaib gets back into full fitness. Lee's clocking 150 K's easily. Top speed of 95, average around 90


In this tournament Lee hardly bowled anything above 88mph! Occasionally he may have got the odd ball to clock 90 or so but he was consistently averaging around 85-87mph.

Akhtar after a 6 month comeback was bowling 92-93mph consistently and hes not up to full fitness yet!

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Old 24th September 2006, 16:28
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You are insulting your own intelligence, man.


Good one.

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You are insulting your own intelligence, man.


Oh, so a typo means i'm stupid does it? Yet interrupting a debate with your off-topic and pedantic posts is very clever isn't it?

Brett Lee is probably the best ODI bowler around at the moment, it's only his Test statistics that let him down. He's also a very competant batsman and that makes him a very good all-round cricketer.

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Old 24th September 2006, 16:29
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Oh grow up.

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Old 24th September 2006, 16:30
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Oh grow up.


I think you need to grow up if petty things like these get on your nerves and entice you to reply back.

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Old 24th September 2006, 16:39
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In this tournament Lee hardly bowled anything above 88mph! Occasionally he may have got the odd ball to clock 90 or so but he was consistently averaging around 85-87mph.

Akhtar after a 6 month comeback was bowling 92-93mph consistently and hes not up to full fitness yet!


nahi yaar, i've watch all the matches...Lee is up there right now in terms of pace.

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Old 24th September 2006, 16:43
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nahi yaar, i've watch all the matches...Lee is up there right now in terms of pace.


I've watched all the matches too, and I'm telling you he hardly hit 90mph. Was consistently in the 85-87 region.

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Old 24th September 2006, 17:13
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Genuine wicket taker, and thus Aussies shouldn't be too worried about his economy rate. That's English mentality! I feel Lee also played an integral part in Australia winning the last world cup.

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Old 24th September 2006, 17:17
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nahi yaar, i've watch all the matches...Lee is up there right now in terms of pace.


Even today, he was averaging around 87 MPH, with the occasional ball touching the 90 MPH zone.

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I saw lee bowl, he Hits 90 now and then but not too often!

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Old 24th September 2006, 17:18
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Oh, so a typo means i'm stupid does it? Yet interrupting a debate with your off-topic and pedantic posts is very clever isn't it?

Brett Lee is probably the best ODI bowler around at the moment, it's only his Test statistics that let him down. He's also a very competant batsman and that makes him a very good all-round cricketer.


Actually, you were the one who interrupted the debate with a pedantic post in which you accused me of insulting your intelligence.

Calm down, take a breath, then come and post again.

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Old 24th September 2006, 17:38
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Actually, you were the one who interrupted the debate with a pedantic post in which you accused me of insulting your intelligence.

Calm down, take a breath, then come and post again.


Or don't post again, its all good.

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Old 24th September 2006, 17:40
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There is no doubt who is faster between Akhtar and Lee though, Lee was not even clocking 90 MPH on most occasions. Does anyone know his average speed?

Neither of them have been. Both of them have been way off their best pace because of their long lay-off from International cricket. You'd expect by the end of the champions trophy for them to be peaking at 150ks now and again.

As for Brett Lee as an ODI bowler he is a wicket taking machine. He still needs to cut down his economy rate and extras given away but his strike rate is impeccable. He is picking up wickets for fun.

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Old 24th September 2006, 18:08
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LOL what is the buzz about his eco rate ? i mean 4.7 with his average and strike rate is awsome. For a real pace bowler like him his eco rate is good.

his partner is Mcgrath so no worries about runs given . . . !

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Old 24th September 2006, 18:09
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Neither of them have been. Both of them have been way off their best pace because of their long lay-off from International cricket. You'd expect by the end of the champions trophy for them to be peaking at 150ks now and again.

As for Brett Lee as an ODI bowler he is a wicket taking machine. He still needs to cut down his economy rate and extras given away but his strike rate is impeccable. He is picking up wickets for fun.


Agree completely.

Akhtar and Lee have both reached 93 MPH - thats a good sign. Hopefully, they will be upto 95-97 by the time the CT starts.

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Old 24th September 2006, 18:10
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Old 24th September 2006, 18:29
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i wish people would get over this facination of pace and actually show a little appreciation to how well Lee is doing as a bowler.

instead we get akthar is faster blah blah blah, Alot of pakistan fans have to show ignorance and come up with irrelvant facts rather than looking at topic at hand.

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Old 24th September 2006, 18:31
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i wish people would get over this facination of pace and actually show a little appreciation to how well Lee is doing as a bowler.

instead we get akthar is faster blah blah blah, Alot of pakistan fans have to show ignorance and come up with irrelvant facts rather than looking at topic at hand.


I hope you are not talking about me.

I have recognized Lee's efforts with the ball in ODI matches and then mentioned his pace.

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Old 24th September 2006, 18:31
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I saw lee bowl, he Hits 90 now and then but not too often!


big deal if hes not bowling at 90mph or above, ask ricky pointing and aussie fans what they prefer?

Lee bowling 100mph or lee taking wickets like he is now!

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Old 24th September 2006, 18:48
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Lee is a a wicket taker and economy of 4.7 in acceptable these days

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Old 24th September 2006, 20:15
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Old 24th September 2006, 20:28
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Brett Lee is one of teh world's best for some time now, irrespective of games in which he gets bashed around. He's one of the very best in both formats of the game.

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Old 25th September 2006, 22:08
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Brett lee without mcgrath

47 odis - 416 ovrs 1999 runs 82 wkts 24.38 ave 4.81 econ 30.44 s/r

1.74 wkts per match

Brett lee with mcgrath

91 odis - 761.3 ovrs 3523 runs 167 wkts 21.10 ave 4.63 econ 27.34 s/r

1.84 wkts per match

Yes its excellent fact that Lee does thrive having mcgrath at other end however, even without mcgrath his performances are still pretty top class!

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Old 25th September 2006, 22:18
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Bad Bwoy Lee!

Respect to any bowler who is the leader of his pack...

Like his attitude, his professionalism and above ALL his Sportsmanship.

ps Shoaib is still king...

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Old 26th September 2006, 01:05
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Agree completely.

Akhtar and Lee have both reached 93 MPH - thats a good sign. Hopefully, they will be upto 95-97 by the time the CT starts.


akhtar is faster but lee is more fit.

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