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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:04
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Please, Let Bob rest in peace.

I hope Pakistani Govt and cricket authorities and the British Govt, will step up to their tasks and impress upon Jamaican Police etc that Woolmers death is not be made into a cheap tourist death type episode.

The man deserves much more dignity - much more than he got from many during his life!

He needs to be laid to rest and closure to be provided for his family, friends and fans.

I understand that legal processes need to be followed but must the constant barrage of leaks from sources be allowed to happen ? Who is responsible for making such a solemn event into a 3rd rate soap Murder She Wrote episode ?

Pakistani and British Embassies must stress upon local Govt officials that Woolmer is a VIP from Pakistan ( he is to be awared one of the highest Civil awards) and this investigation and its results should not be made public by ANYONE until the smallest doubt has been removed.

AS for us, its our duty to protect the reputation of a man we all admired - we must desist any impulse to speculate and make his death cheap in anyway.

We must let him rest in Peace.

May ALLAH help Mrs. Woolmer and children through this difficult phase of their lives - and May ALLAH in his infinite mercy grant peace to the soul of Bob Woolmer, Ameen.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:09
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But if he is indeed murdered then Bob's family deserve justice.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:14
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But if he is indeed murdered then Bob's family deserve justice.


true.. an investigation to find out the circumstances which lead to his death is by no means a disrespect to him and it should go ahead. moreover the speculative stories are coming out from the media all over the cricket playing nations and i don't think Jamaikan police can do anything to stop these.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:16
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Nauman - I am not for a moment advocating that we let people get off the hook - but what I detest is a good mans name being dragged through the mud with all kinds of sordid theories - most of them being leaked by irresponsible members of the local authorities and journalists ( some Pakistani as well )

We are making the death of a good man into a tamasha - would we have liked this if this was our own father ?

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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:17
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But if he is indeed murdered then Bob's family deserve justice.


and who is going to provide this justice? these despicable gossip queens? why cant we control ourselves for a few dats? let the FACTS come out ant stop all the speculatione? is it really that hard?

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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:18
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There is no tamasha, if there are speculations going on about thats media's fault not police's.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:19
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Media is getting its stories from the Police Nauman.

And that also brings in the role of the media in this - esp Pakistani media.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:21
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I don't understand this show of emotion. He was a high profile individual. You've got to take the good with the bad. If he can be shown so much respect and given airtime over his death, then naturally there will be a lot of publicity about the cause of death too.

Do we have web-sites dedicated to poor, innocent human beings who die all over the world? No.

I'm not saying all this publicity is right, but it's something you have to expect.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:21
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thanks for deleting that despicable thread. but a little late for me i'm afraid. my morning is already ruined.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:22
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The media like to create headlines because they like to sell newspapers, increase ratings etc. That's their agenda.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:22
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I don't understand this show of emotion. He was a high profile individual. You've got to take the good with the bad. If he can be shown so much respect and given airtime over his death, then naturally there will be a lot of publicity about the cause of death too.

Do we have web-sites dedicated to poor, innocent human beings who die all over the world? No.

I'm not saying all this publicity is right, but it's something you have to expect.


Respect the dead. This is something Muslims are taught from a young age.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:26
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Respect the dead. This is something Muslims are taught from a young age.


You are not wrong and I completely agree that EVERYONE should be shown respect.

However, you should understand that these things are gonna happen. Unless you want to change this web-site's theme and colours to respect all the innocent, decent people that are dying all over the world.

We need to show some consistency. If we don't, then why do we expect others to?

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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:32
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BW was hugely popular among many people of the world.

I suppose you will never see past some personal hatred for Inzi and BW and we should let the matter be - thats life, I guess - but I try.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:36
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he is a celebrity, hence there will be more coverage for his death. even we are curious to get the latest updates regarding his death, aren't we? also there is no disrespect by the media to him-at least as of now. his death has been linked to the betting/match-fixing mafia, but no one has accused him involving in betting.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:36
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BW was hugely popular among many people of the world.

I suppose you will never see past some personal hatred for Inzi and BW and we should let the matter be - thats life, I guess - but I try.

Thanks


This has absolutely nothing to do with hatred. I have conveyed my sadness at bob's passing.

What is more alarming is that some people will never see past their favourites.

So do you think that Bob's life is more valuable than someone else's??

It's not me being illogical here.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 17:42
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MIG you are getting overly emotional here, yes we were all saddened by his death but that doesn't mean you go all out in showing emotion.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 18:02
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This has absolutely nothing to do with hatred. I have conveyed my sadness at bob's passing.

What is more alarming is that some people will never see past their favourites.

So do you think that Bob's life is more valuable than someone else's??

It's not me being illogical here.


what a slanderous statement to make. so if my dear friend passes away, and I have a message of condolence posted on my website, your "logic" dictates that I think his life is more important than others' and I am openly inviting people to come and speculate about why and how he passed away? with all the gruesome details no less. what logic!

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Old 22nd March 2007, 18:07
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MIG....
Media will never give it is rest - since Bob was a celebrity. This is the price you HAVE to pay for being famous. Your privacy is gone. They have to earn their buck and they'll do that.

You can delete all the "speculative" threads in the name of being respectful to Bob.....but the truth of the matter is that being concerned is human nature. A lot of people are concerned and want to know what happened. A lot of people are curious...they want to know what happened. It is OK to be curious too. Just like, if you find out that there is death in you neighborhood, 99% of the people who went to that house would surely ask..after the condolences, what happened and why?? I don't think, it is any disrespect to the deceased!

This is not tamasha. I don't think - people specially PPers are being disrespectful by "speculating". I think, 99% of the PPer have been very respectful to him. How can somebody be disrespectful to such a tragic loss of human life. Lets not doubt majority of the PPer here. Just like we didn't doubt Mods' intentions with the following thread;
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...ead.php?t=38084
If we did not know you guys (mods), it can easily be taken as using Bob's death to enhance membership to the forum! We KNOW...this was NOT the case!

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Old 22nd March 2007, 18:12
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MIG....
Media will never give it is rest - since Bob was a celebrity. This is the price you HAVE to pay for being famous. Your privacy is gone. They have to earn their buck and they'll do that.

You can delete all the "speculative" threads in the name of being respectful to Bob.....but the truth of the matter is that being concerned is human nature. A lot of people are concerned and want to know what happened. A lot of people are curious...they want to know what happened. It is OK to be curious too. Just like, if you find out that there is death in you neighborhood, 99% of the people who went to that house would surely ask..after the condolences, what happened and why?? I don't think, it is any disrespect to the deceased!

This is not tamasha. I don't think - people specially PPers are being disrespectful by "speculating". I think, 99% of the PPer have been very respectful to him. How can somebody be disrespectful to such a tragic loss of human life. Lets not doubt majority of the PPer here. Just like we didn't doubt Mods' intentions with the following thread;
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...ead.php?t=38084
If we did not know you guys (mods), it can easily be taken as using Bob's death to enhance membership to the forum! We KNOW...this was NOT the case!


take your analogy just a little bit further. Now imagine you actually attending a neighborhood gathering on his death, and everywhere you turn people are sitting in groups talking about how he "might" have died. how much vomit was there. WHERE was it. was his neck broken. did someone whake him around and push him up against a wall. It breaks my heart just repeating these things. and I am not even talking about the worst of it. would you be okay with that?

I know I would kick those "speculators" right on out of that gathering. thats what I would do.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 18:18
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This is not tamasha. I don't think - people specially PPers are being disrespectful by "speculating". I think, 99% of the PPer have been very respectful to him. How can somebody be disrespectful to such a tragic loss of human life. Lets not doubt majority of the PPer here. Just like we didn't doubt Mods' intentions with the following thread;
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...ead.php?t=38084
If we did not know you guys (mods), it can easily be taken as using Bob's death to enhance membership to the forum! We KNOW...this was NOT the case!

I doubt if the MODS are desperate for people to sign up on PP. PP has over 4000 members and does not need the death of a great man to promote the site. To suggest that is ridiculous.

It is just a chance for people who do lurk, but do not want to post to get a chance and pass on their condolences to Bob. Don't try to make something out of nothing.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 18:24
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Easa you just missed the whole point.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 18:26
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I think Easa is the only one who got my point.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 18:42
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Nah I was talking about Mahmood's point.

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Old 22nd March 2007, 18:45
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A lot of talk about points - what point did I get and why did I get this specific point?

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Old 22nd March 2007, 21:32
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MIG is correct.
it is very sad state of affair that media is just hyping it too much.all sort of speculations are coming from every where.give the BOB'S soul a break...it is too much to digest...
i feel sorry for his wife and boys.what state of mind the will be in.....

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