Who made the Big Bang go Bang?

The prevalent theory (and theory is all it is) about the creation of the universe is that the universe was a gaseous cloud which exploded and spread out. Eventually it randomly formed solar systems and galaxies.

But where did the gaseous cloud originally come from? It can't have always been there.

Also what was the gaseous cloud contained in? What did it spread out into?

Was there an older universe which was destroyed in the bang?

Was there nothing?

If the gaseous cloud did spread out destroying an older unverse and replacing it with ours, then does that mean the gaseous cloud still exists at the centre of our universe?

Is it like a dormant volcano which will one day go bang and replace our universe with a new one?

Interestingly enough there are those who say Islam also believes in the Big Bang, to prove their point they cite the following verse...



...the above appears to validate the Big Bang theory but as with anything it's a matter of interpretation.

There's a verse I once read which has stayed with me, this verse seems to backup the theory that the Universe will undergo another Big Bang and be replaced with a new universe...



...now this part of the Quran refers to the Day of Judgement.

However this particular verse seems to hint at another Big Bang and creation being renewed. So does that mean there'll be another Big Bang that will wipe out the old universe with a new one?

Interestingly most Scientists think that the Universe is still expanding (from the Big Bang) and that it will one day reach a limit and then implode in on itself. After which it will go bang again.

Food for thought!

The discovery of The Big Bang and that of origin of life from water was made not so long ago. When the universe began all matter and space was at one point in one piece. This article below was just published.



Then everything was separated in what the physicists describe as The big bang. The evidence that the universe began in the The big bang is so overwhelming that it is now considered a fact and not just a theory. More and more realities are coming to teh front now.

In addition the following verse also proves the Red Shift seen by the galaxies today.





Yes that's true infact scientists are trying to figure out the rate of slowing down of the red shift in order to figure out when it might stop expanding and reverse, which is very very hard to do. But I believe scientists are begenning to realize that the universe if its below a certain density level, I am forgetting what it was then universe will infact contract.

Now contracing of universe is very interesting. It will reverse time and space as we know it. I'll quote this part from the physics of day of judgement.



In the verse you mentioned:

Scientists by time are begenning to make the size of the marble mass smaller and smaller as they make new discoveries and I am sure with time they may even reach to a conclusion that the mass was indeed to small as if it was close to nothing!

According to the Big Bang theory, everything began from the explosion of a point of infinite density and zero volume. As time passed, space expanded and the gaps between

Excellent replies zech.

Imagine the weight of a marble like that? To be honest I'm not sure if I like the marble theory.

It seems incredulous for a universe worth of matter to contract into something the size of a marble.

Also what about the space around the marble? What is that being taken up by?

When the universe contracts into a marble then it takes us all with it into the centre of the Universe but then what's occupying the place/space where we are sitting right now?

Nothingness? Is there such a thing as nothingness?

The marble theory sucks big time, I prefer to think there is a chaos cloud at the centre of the Universe. This cloud is like a volcano and gathers energy up until breaking point when it goes bang!

Currently it's recharging (must takes billions of years) and when it's ready we'll be wiped out!!

Perhaps we did start from Infinite desnity and zero volume. But you have a very interesting question about nothingness and what will happen to us when the universe contracts. Where will go and what will happen to space? How will all this be controlled? Here is the latter part of the Physics of day of Judgement. Lots of things in here to make us think.

"The marble theory sucks big time, I prefer to think there is a chaos cloud at the centre of the Universe. This cloud is like a volcano and gathers energy up until breaking point when it goes bang!"


mercs "space volcano" theory .. it's right up there with einstein and hawkings

there is no such thing as big bang, people who believe in this need their heads checking

God created everything, simple as that.

And who created God?

I'm guessing you are not a muslim...

Use your intellectual mind and think about it.



You are absolutely correct, all the scientists are a bunch of dumba$$es and unversities around the world are wasting thier precious time, let's all go live in caves.

They say universe has more chance of being flat, like a sheet of paper. Which, if true, makes more sense in the light of the 'rolling up of the heavens like a scroll' verse.

Also the quantum theory suggests that small bubbles of energy can spring up from absolutely nothing temporarily and could cause chain reactions or creation of matter. Which is perhaps what happened before the big bang, as they suggest. Imagine Science coming up with something like that.

I have another one, everything has a name, what is name's name?

hmm good thread and even better replies Zech!

I would say that to truly understand this concept from a scientific point of view we will need to solve the mystery of the Dark energy because it's the dark energy that's causing the universe to expand. So if we can some how figure out exactly what the dark energy is then it shouldn't be too hard(relatively speaking) to trace all the way back to big bang.

PP how about a giant dark hair dryer plugged in that volcano hanging with the wire spinning like mad out of control blowing cosmic dust due to prolonged non-stop use and pushing everything away?

Dark Energy is a possibility too.

Interesting thought: At the beginning when there was one point from which the whole universe emerged, it was named Big Bang. Now at the end when the universe contracts and all bodies move towards each other and smash into each other like a gang, and then produce another bang, what would that be called?

hmm...

well there is already quite a bit of evidence supporting the existence of dark energy.

They also say 90% of universe may consist of dark matter!

Wow that is another interesting idea. This is probably what did happen before the big bang and then after it the whole thing went bang!

One more thing that fasinates me is the dissappearence of matter through blackholes and new matter forming such as in gaseous clouds. Nothing in the universe is eternal and therefore must have end, meaning blackhole must have an end, and a British professor was saying that there is a strong possibility that matter does vanish like this and new matter pops from time to time.

Quite interesting.

Yes it is certainly more the two thirds and may well be 90%. Not fully understanding this concept is like living on earth with out having a clue of what water is! So presently we are living totally in dark( ok bad joke).

p.s Entra here is the answer to the question that you brought up

phantom energy causes divergent expansion, which would imply that the effective force of dark energy continues growing until it dominates all other forces in the universe. Under this scenario, dark energy would ultimately tear apart all gravitationally bound structures, including galaxies and solar systems, and eventually overcome the electrical and nuclear forces to tear apart atoms themselves, ending the universe in a "Big Rip". On the other hand, dark energy might dissipate with time, or even become attractive. Such uncertainties leave open the possibility that gravity might yet rule the day and lead to a universe that contracts in on itself in a "Big Crunch"

Mercs

The latest theory doesn't beleive in clouds of gas anymore but smoke as stated in the Quran. I think this has been discussed, I remember a thread from Big Daddy on this subject.