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9th June 2005, 20:17
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Madad: yeh kaunsa sher hai?
I know there is a sher by Ghalib (I think) which goes something like:
Nazuki (delicateness) uss lubb/zulf ki kya kahiyay Kali aik gulab ki see hai (not sure whether its lubb or zulf) does anyone know of the correct sher, and who said it? thanks! 
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9th June 2005, 20:19
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Who do you think is better, mir of ghalib , ?
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9th June 2005, 20:22
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abay kis haseena kay peechay haath dhokay par gaya hai ?? roz naye sher ajatay hain.
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9th June 2005, 20:24
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that's the one! thanks a lot! Allah aap ko chaand see bhabhi day   and every good sher that i can remember is by default Ghalib's...unless someone corrects me or I find out that it was said by someone else can u post the ghazal? List of Urdu Poets
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9th June 2005, 20:24
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9th June 2005, 20:25
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9th June 2005, 20:27
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TS do you know Rizwan or Osman Awan (waterloo boys) ?
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9th June 2005, 20:27
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Rrright I sure don't  ..As I said before everyone has their own preferences..
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9th June 2005, 20:28
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Umar bhai, what is Mir's full name btw?
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9th June 2005, 20:28
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9th June 2005, 20:30
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No I don't Gasher...but I think I have heard their names. If they go to the univ, I'm sure i know them by face.
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9th June 2005, 20:31
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thanks again great poem.
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9th June 2005, 20:31
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Getting a little defensive are we now.So anybody who doesn't think mir is not that good as ghalib you resort to cutting down person's credibility..Nice one.
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9th June 2005, 20:33
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set sher hai yar...maza aa geya.
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9th June 2005, 20:37
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Yes I have absolutely no poetic intelligence coming from a great philospher and poet like you..Yes mir can be fluffy but I never said he was not a great poet..In fact some of his later stuff was better than Ghalib..But I just found sometimes mir can be little fluffy..That's just my opinion..
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9th June 2005, 20:37
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tum hum se hotay ho goya
jab koi doosra nahi hota
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9th June 2005, 20:38
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Gairat-e-yusuf hai ye vaqt-e-aziiz
'Meer' is ko raayegaa.N khotaa hai kyaa The reference to Yusuf (AS) in this one reminds me of Ghalib's reference to Easa (AS): Ibn-e-Mariam hua karay koi Meray dard ki dawa karay koi waisay this Mir chap is pretty good, i must say
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#28
9th June 2005, 20:40
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Didn't you mention you wrote some poetry..Lets see some 
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9th June 2005, 20:42
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heard that too! incidently thats the only sher i have ever read from momin ;))
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9th June 2005, 20:43
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Of course it is, you often quote great legends like mir and ghalib and advocate philosophies of keats, so lets see where it has taken you in the arc of poetry..
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9th June 2005, 20:44
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Believe me what I say to you, that is the ONLY SINGLE sher I have remembered over the years in my life and actually felt quite proud to do so, but even that has come out to be wrong wording-wise. I better kill myself.
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9th June 2005, 20:46
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Of course it is, you often quote great legends like mir and ghalib and advocate philosophies of keats" philosophy of keats? i have almost never done that directly, good of you to catch it you do know what his philosophy was i hope? more apt to say, his approach than philosophy.
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9th June 2005, 20:47
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bhaiyo, aik aur sher dhuund wa do...this one is from Iqbal for sure. I remember seeing this in grade 5 or 6 on a poster in school, and it stuck on me...but have forgotton the words.
it goes something like this (grossly paraphrasing!): kafir ki nishaani yeh hai kay hai aasmaN main gum momin ki nishaani yeh hai kay aasmaN iss main gum hai
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9th June 2005, 20:50
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im not wooing anyone, jigar ....should have though, magar ab kya pashtawaN jab chiryaN chug gayeeN khet.
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9th June 2005, 20:52
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abay ye tou nakaam aashiq nikla!
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9th June 2005, 20:54
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 good one!
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9th June 2005, 20:56
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bila waja ki taking! chubbay!
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9th June 2005, 20:56
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besharam nalaiq nikammay!!
iss din kay liye paal pos kay bara kiya tha, kay bachi say phat jaye??
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9th June 2005, 20:58
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9th June 2005, 21:02
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zakhmoN pay namak mat chirko, boss!
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9th June 2005, 21:04
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"Yeh jo halka halka suroor hai sab teri nazar ka kasoor hai kai sharaab peena sikha dia.."
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9th June 2005, 21:05
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beautifully sung by NFAK, I might add.
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9th June 2005, 21:06
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koi baat nahi ts..Commay say haroz larkiya haath say guzar jathi hain..
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9th June 2005, 21:27
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mir's mastery was to write ghazals with shorter verses. in urdu they call it "chooti beher" and i think it's not easy to do so. it's like painting with few strokes(it shows the artistic capability of a person to express like that). in contemporary urdu ghazal, nasir kazmi's shairi is a good example of it.
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9th June 2005, 21:30
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mir is considered more as a hindustani or subcontenental poet. ghalib was very much influenced by some persian poets. according to different critics he was influenced by "urfi" and they critics consider urfi as better than ghalib(certainly not my opinion as i never read urfi)
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9th June 2005, 21:31
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nasir was one hell of a mir protege, dare i say waisay B.
waisay i am not sure if i completely agree with mir's rep for choti beher. though it has to be said he did it far more than his contemporaries.
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9th June 2005, 21:35
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i think choti beher was his speciality. just look at this:
dekh to dil ke jaan se uttha he yeh dhuan sa kahan se uthta he it's so beautiful especially the second line.
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