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Old 19th September 2005, 07:13
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Article: Vettori: Overrated, or one of the best one day bowlers in the world ? by OTW

OTW examines the mystery behind why we dont class Vettori as the best one day bowler in the world !

Read this excellent piece on :


http://www.pakpassion.net/index.php...id=266&Itemid=0

Many thanks to OTW for his effort !

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Old 19th September 2005, 07:23
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A good read, OTW would be an excellent cricket columnist. I haven't seen much of Vettori recently and one-days don't appeal to me much. Though if I had to choose I'd go with Warne as the best one-day bowler in the world even if retired!

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good article by OTW.I believe vettori will even be more effective if he has a good partner at the other end.

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Good Article.

I've always rated Vettori.

Easily the best left arm slow bowler around at the moment.

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Excellent article. He ofcourse another feather in his cap because he is a very handy and rapidly improving batsman. Therefore he gives depth to the batting line up. Having said that, I would still pick murali over him.

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excellent article about an under rated player

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Old 19th September 2005, 17:44
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Good Article.

I've always rated S

Expect an article soon justifying Kylie's inclusion ahead of Flintoff...

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Old 19th September 2005, 18:17
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Great article OTW. I have always been a big fan of Vettori. He is an improving bowler and batsman every time i see him. I don't know why he has been critised so much.

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Old 19th September 2005, 18:35
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very good article which, surely underlines that vettori does deserve his place in
world x1 for super series.

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Old 19th September 2005, 18:43
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Thanks for the interesting read OTW. I wish Vettori was Pakistani as I rate him very highly and we have not had a decent left arm spinner for ages.

Vettori's stats and rating would no doubt be even higher if he played on more spin friendly surfaces and had not been so unlucky with injuries.

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Old 19th September 2005, 19:09
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He probably has the best arm ball amongst finger spinners. That ball does drift a lot. However I think that ball used to be even more potent before his back injury. Since the back injury and few modifications to the action, the arm ball does not drift as much as it used to.

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Old 19th September 2005, 20:10
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Nicely written. I dont think too many people question Vettori's usefulness in ODIs though. It was his selection in the test squad ahead of Kumble and maybe even Harbhajan which caused the furore. Remember his spell in the NatWest final last year, absolutely wonderful piece of slow left arm bowling.

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Old 19th September 2005, 20:48
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Just one other thing also that should be taken into consideration about Vettori is that he is a very useful and much improved lower order batsman, more than capable of scoring a few runs.

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Old 19th September 2005, 22:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sage
Expect an article soon justifying Kylie's inclusion ahead of Flintoff...

Don't push it.

Saj: As far as Vettori's batting goes, I didn't discuss this in the piece as I was mainly pushing for Vettori's selection on the bowling front; as he deserves the recognition of being one of the finest ODI bowlers today; rather than a very good all rounder.

Even then, it's worth noting that in his last 15 tests, he has an average of over 36 (quite respectable) with substantial knocks against teams like Pakistan, South Africa and Australia - not minor bowling lineups by any means.

In ODIs, it's just as impressive - he's averaging 36 with the bat from his last 15 as well, and that includes a score of 83 off 77 balls batting at no. 8 (incidentally, the highest ODI score by any player at that position) against a full strength Australian attack.

To add to the previous comments about the drift he manages to get, and his subtle variations in flight and pace - it's rare to see a bowler who has so many subtleties as he does, and I'd say it's a fantastic adaptation to the sort of surfaces he usually plays on. Most surfaces in NZ usually tend to favour quicks a bit more, and rarely help the spinners out - hence why unlike a Murali, Kaneria or Kumble, Vettori's learned how to adapt and succeed on wickets where he'll get negligible turn.

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Old 5th October 2005, 15:25
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Just had to push this back up, in light of a certain someone outbowling the likes of Murali, Flintoff, Pollock and Shoaib. 10-1-33-4 against Aus in the first ODI; and that too with quite a few overs being bowled at the death. Now here's hoping for a few more performances along these lines in the next two games.

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You said it first OTW - right here on PP !!!

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Vettori seems to enjoy bowling against the Australians. whats intresting is even thou vettori isnt the greatest turner of a cricket ball alot of batsmen seem to struggle against the variation and guile produced by vettori. Not many aussie batsmen seem to be confident in using their feet against him.

superb bowling spell today thou!

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Old 5th October 2005, 20:55
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Varied his pace beautifully today. Subtle changes of pace, line and length are sometimes enough to deceive the batsman rather than huge turning deliveries.

Vettori is an intelligent cricketer who knows exactly what the plan is for each batsman.

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Old 5th October 2005, 21:33
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Vettori is an intelligent cricketer who knows exactly what the plan is for each batsman.

And unlike a Murali, Warne, Saqlain or anyone else, doesn't try hyping himself. No talk about a doosra or a teesra, or how _____ will struggle to read him. Just shows up, lets Shoaib/Flintoff/etc take the limelight, then outperforms the lot. Very impressive to see that sort of head combined with that level of talent, and his work ethic and consistency.

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