Did we miss Nasir Jamshed?

[ElRaja]

Didnt get to see the game today, but as usual it looks like we didnt take the initiative in the first PP and allowed the required rate to build by not attacking the lesser bowlers as usually happens when we are chasing.

Azhar played a decent knock but no one around him seems to have really looked to have been aggressive or dominating, despite his technical frailities and questionable fitness Jamshed has a positive outlook and looks to be aggressive in the first PP, i think we missed that today.

What do you guys think?

[World Champion]

Nasir is obviously good but we are missing out on the services of a very talented batsman who is IN the squad in the form of Imran Farhat. He should replace Yunus Khan in the next game as he is good for nothing in ODI's

[Bilal7]

Originally Posted by World Champion Nasir is obviously good but we are missing out on the services of a very talented batsman who is IN the squad in the form of Imran Farhat. He should replace Yunus Khan in the next game as he is good for nothing in ODI's

You will have a very horrible time on PP if you're a fan of Imran Farhat. I never though such people existed!!

To OP: Yes of-course we are missing Jamshed. He looked very impressive in the Asia cup.

[ElRaja]

Originally Posted by Bilal7 You will have a very horrible time on PP if you're a fan of Imran Farhat. I never though such people existed!! To OP: Yes of-course we are missing Jamshed. He looked very impressive in the Asia cup.

So if Azhar maintains his form and nasir comes back when fit, is it curtains for yk?

Personally i think azhar would be a good number three if nasir is opening.

[Bilal7]

Originally Posted by ElRaja So if Azhar maintains his form and nasir comes back when fit, is it curtains for yk? Personally i think azhar would be a good number three if nasir is opening.

Yup, curtains for YK.

Thanks for the memories, it was fun cricket!! :younis

^ The above will prove to be worthless if YK scores a fifty in the next game.

[rhussain33]

Nasir off course was missed.. easily the best ODI bat Pak have

Asad also needs to make an appearence. .

Hafèezs golden period is over I'm afraid

YK was always an averGe ODI player...

Misbahsonly good for chasing 240 max

[JibranAnsari]

Azhar's role: anchor
Hafeez's Role : to take most of the strike at the start and score really slow
Younis's role : to kill the momentum
Misbah's role: to anchor the innings

with this top 4 , try and chase 220+ and failure is guaranteed 90% of the times.

[ElRaja]

Purely hypothetically, swap rahat ali, younis for amhed shehzad, nasir jamshed and go in with

shehzad
jamshed
azhar
akmal
misbah
hafeez
afridi, sarfraz, gul, tanvir and ajmal

that would be a decent odi line up, if hafeez bowls his full ten every game, which is a given in subcontinent conditions.

[Boi]

Originally Posted by ElRaja Purely hypothetically, swap rahat ali, younis for amhed shehzad, nasir jamshed and go in with shehzad jamshed azhar akmal misbah hafeez afridi, sarfraz, gul, tanvir and ajmal that would be a decent odi line up, if hafeez bowls his full ten every game, which is a given in subcontinent conditions.

I don't think Azhar will work at 3 in ODIs. Yes he played well today, but his lack of ability to rotate the strike and manage spinners efficiently is worrying, therefore I'd go with Umar instead at 3, who has the ability to make use of the powerplays if needs be, or rotate the strike at the fall of an early wicket. If Azhar is to play, he has to open, otherwise we have better options than him in ODI cricket:

Nasir
Hafeez/Shehzad/Azhar
Umar
Asad
Misbah
Azam

My ideal top 6.

[srh]

If Nasir was playing today as an opener, Pakistan most likely would have won.

[LegCutter]

Originally Posted by JibranAnsari Azhar's role: anchor Hafeez's Role : to take most of the strike at the start and score really slow Younis's role : to kill the momentum Misbah's role: to anchor the innings with this top 4 , try and chase 220+ and failure is guaranteed 90% of the times.

Hafeez's Role: Eat all the balls, add pressure on your partner, then do a brainfart and get out.

[Saurav]

Originally Posted by LegCutter Hafeez's Role: Eat all the balls, add pressure on your partner, then do a brainfart and get out.

lol the Mohali brainfart came to mind.most epic brainfart ever

[SwingNSeam]

Originally Posted by World Champion Nasir is obviously good but we are missing out on the services of a very talented batsman who is IN the squad in the form of Imran Farhat. He should replace Yunus Khan in the next game as he is good for nothing in ODI's

lol you cant be serious.

Looks like Imran Farhat took it upon himself and created a PP account, to convince others that he is a good player and deserves another chance.

[truthseer]

I think if we're including Azhar and Hafeez in the squad, we have to drop a bowler and get both of them combined to bowl 10

[ElRaja]

Originally Posted by truthseer I think if we're including Azhar and Hafeez in the squad, we have to drop a bowler and get both of them combined to bowl 10

i agree with you, azhar will defo have to start turning his arm over again in case hafeez cant bowl his full ten, or another bowler has a bad day. we need the extra batsmen atm.

[Zaz]

Nasir jamsheds firepower is missed at the top

Hafeez really needs to up the tempo in odi cricket, with azhar making a case of a spot and misbah a certainty we really cant afford 2-3 slowish players in the top 4

[UmarMalik]

At times I wonder why Younis is in the side, and Yousuf is not.. At least Mohammad Yousuf was more reliable than Younis..

[truthseer]

Originally Posted by ElRaja i agree with you, azhar will defo have to start turning his arm over again in case hafeez cant bowl his full ten, or another bowler has a bad day. we need the extra batsmen atm.

Also, if we're forced to include , we should use his bowling too, it's not like he bats

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Yes we are, guy averages 39 with a strike rate of 99, he seems to be able to score quickly without much effort. When he comes bak it should be the end of yk, Azhar Ali made me eat humble pie and I think he should bat at 3

[IM NOT YOU]

Originally Posted by JibranAnsari Azhar's role: anchor Hafeez's Role : to take most of the strike at the start and score really slow Younis's role : to kill the momentum Misbah's role: to anchor the innings with this top 4 , try and chase 220+ and failure is guaranteed 90% of the times.

LOL!


this is so hilarious and so very very true.





even if we had nasir jamshed and took out azhar ali, it would've been the same thing..

the way younis kills the momentum and the way misbah bats stubbornly slow regardless of the situtaiton, we fall 9 times out of 10 to a reasonable total

[Pakprideuk]

With this squad we might have had a chance yesterday:

1.) Ahmed Shehzad
2.) Nasir Jamshed
3.) Azhar Ali
4.) Misbah Ul Haq
5.) Umar Akmal
6.) Mohammad Hafeez
7.) Afridi

Ask Azhar Ali to bowl 3-4 overs a game.

[LegCutter]

Had Nasir placed, then Azhar wouldnt have played. Azhar was basically a replacement for Nasir, so saying we missed Nasir basically means no Azhar, and I really dont see how Nasir couldve done any better than Azhar.

[Lethalweapon]

Is Nasir ' a second coming of Gilchrist or Jayasuriya' as opener ?
People forget asia cup pitches had NO SWING unlike SL.

[truthseer]

Originally Posted by Lethalweapon Is Nasir ' a second coming of Gilchrist or Jayasuriya' as opener ? People forget asia cup pitches had NO SWING unlike SL.

It doesn't matter that he isn't nowhere near as good as Jaya. The point is he is better than the current mediocre opener, Mr. Professor who struggles on surfaces with any sort of movement, gets out after pretty thirties and is only in because of his bowling. Get him down the order as a finisher with Jamshed opening and coming in for a straight swap of YK

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Originally Posted by Lethalweapon Is Nasir ' a second coming of Gilchrist or Jayasuriya' as opener ? People forget asia cup pitches had NO SWING unlike SL.

No one said he is , but he is the most consistent of all te upcoming pak openers, plus who would you have

[Lethalweapon]

Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie No one said he is , but he is the most consistent of all te upcoming pak openers, plus who would you have

SL is not easy for openers. in the last 5 years (after 2007 WC) openers tend to have incosistent scores in ODIs here. Jayasuriya himself was poor . his decline started at home. Dilshan is better away than at home. (I know he got a ton) check yourself.
Credit to Azhar Ali though. I prefer him over Nasir.
Nasir mistimed the pull in the asia cup even against India, one of his dismissals was while pulling and Bang. pitches don't have bounce.
Azhar at no. 3 ? he was sluggish against Herath. infact Herath was the only one to ball lot of dot ball to him and not go for runs.