Faisal Raza Abidi going mental on CJ

[saadibaba]

Let the good times roll

[Raz]

Nothing but a mouthpiece of Zardari. Mind you there is no more entertaining sight in Pakistan politics (apart from teeth falling out) than Faisal Raza Abidi going nuts!

[zimmz]

Trying desperately to get 'shaheed' label...PPP!

[zimmz]

All these recent 'press conferences' seems well planned and scripted to take on judges and PTI by coalition of Noon and PPP. In coming days I expect increase in attacks on PTI by nooners and on judges/Army by PPP.

[Bewal Express]

A proper PPP idiot. He Needs to be locked up in a mental asylum.

[0tt0man]

Start watching from 26:00. That cackle has been haunting me for the past week.

[ehjaz]

I never watch stupidity........especially this clown...who is nothing but "monkey sees monkey does"....

[waqar_ahmad]

Mushahudullah and Faisal Raza Abidi are nut cases. All they do is shout without any content whatsoever. I dont watch shows with these 2 idiots

[Black Zero]

SRK of Pakistani Polictics

[PetroDollars]

stupidity + entertainment = Faisal Raza Abidi

[iRfaN_LA]

Its impossible for me to listen to this douchebag.

[saadibaba]

Originally Posted by zimmz Trying desperately to get 'shaheed' label...PPP!

True, but I am glad someone finally decided to expose CJ and his family, even if it is for their own personal gain.

Originally Posted by zimmz All these recent 'press conferences' seems well planned and scripted to take on judges and PTI by coalition of Noon and PPP. In coming days I expect increase in attacks on PTI by nooners and on judges/Army by PPP.

So PPP and N league together have devised this master plan in your opinion to counter PTI, Army and Judiciary. All scripted and planned. Amazing insight.

[saadibaba]

Originally Posted by waqar_ahmad Mushahudullah and Faisal Raza Abidi are nut cases. All they do is shout without any content whatsoever. I dont watch shows with these 2 idiots

You shouldn't , but at least hear what he is saying. Do you think it's all made up by him and CJ is purer than the driven snow.

[IAJ]

PPP issues show-cause notice to Abidi over press conference

ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) issued a show-cause notice to Faisal Raza Abidi over his Sunday press conference during which the firebrand senator had lashed out at the judiciary and at Arsalan Iftikhar, son of Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry, DawnNews reported on Monday.

Moreover, taking notice of the press briefing, the Supreme Court also summoned a record of it.

During the press conference, Senator Abidi had distributed copies of the bank statements of a company, ‘F&A Enterprises’, allegedly owned by Arsalan Iftikhar, son of the chief justice, carrying the address of his official residence.

The senator had also criticised the Supreme Court for nullifying the recently-passed contempt of court law and termed it part of a plan to pitch two state institutions against each other.

The show-cause notice was issued to Senator Abidi by PPP Secretary General Jahangir Badar.

The notice directs Senator Abidi to explain his press briefing of Aug 5 in which he had said that while contempt cases against a number of people, including PPP leaders Babar Awan, Sharjeel Memon and Taj Haider, were pending the court had hurriedly convicted a prime minister and sent him home.

Speaking to DawnNews, Senator Abidi acknowledged having received the notice and said he would respond to it soon.

He said he stood by his stance on the matter and was proud of what he had done.

http://dawn.com/2012/08/06/ppp-issue...ss-conference/

[zimmz]

Originally Posted by saadibaba So PPP and N league together have devised this master plan in your opinion to counter PTI, Army and Judiciary. All scripted and planned. Amazing insight.

It appears so!

You think Abidi is just bored and teasing around? He has been unleashed by his master close to the end of government. What could be the purpose?

[Runner Up]

This man is a blood pressure ka Mareez.

[PakPrince]

Originally Posted by zimmz It appears so! You think Abidi is just bored and teasing around? He has been unleashed by his master close to the end of government. What could be the purpose?

nah he's been on the judiciary from the very start to be honest

he makes some points though.

CJ is a PCO judge and will always remain so. he has a dark history to him. And he is too pro PML-N

He listens to cases against the PPP govt the next day after the case is put into the court and cases pending against PML-N are lying for months and years.

even Imran's case against Hanif Abbasi of PML-N has not been heard

[zimmz]

^ In the past he was not so subtle about it and was in limits...not to get served a notice. This time it all gun blazing and timing is under question.

The argument is old however that since there are other cases pending why take on PPP cases. Lame really. If CJ has started with acting government cases whats wrong in that? NS will not hide for long once PPP cases are dealt with.

True CJ was PCO (forced to be one by a dictator) but then he could remain as judge that way only to take on that dictator and the outcome we all know . In Pakistan one has to get dirty to clean the dirt.

[saadibaba]

What about CJ's son "alleged" corruption. Is CJ so "bhola" he didn't know what his son was doing while living in the same house. CJ's son used the address of Chief justice house as his business's address, he was told by Aetizaz about the corruption several months before the Malik Riaz scandal broke, yet CJ known for taking suo moto at the drop of a hat sat quietly.

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by saadibaba What about CJ's son "alleged" corruption. Is CJ so "bhola" he didn't know what his son was doing while living in the same house. CJ's son used the address of Chief justice house as his business's address, he was told by Aetizaz about the corruption several months before the Malik Riaz scandal broke, yet CJ known for taking suo moto at the drop of a hat sat quietly.

I agree and I said the same thing in the thread about his son's allegation.

But this is a well planned and well thought game by Zardari, they have deceided to go all open against CJ, by doing this, they want to get the " Shaheed title" , look like they have realized that they are not going to win the elections and want to be dismissed through courts.

My fear ( as always been), the whole set is up going to be packed by the army and bring a technocrats Govt ( instead of free elections). This judiciary is the biggest road block for the army to play his game, they are more desperate to send them home than anybody else.

[zimmz]

^ That's the point. If abidi so want all the answers then he should push his government to do a proper investigation in Arsalan case but it seems media blame game is the only thing they are good at. Perhaps they know there is nothing gonna come out from investigation so let's just malign CJ in media.

[Black Zero]

media trail is the best thing

going to courts is a futile exercise...

let the word spread and voters will know that judges not letting govt to serve the masses...

[Faisalabad]

Originally Posted by Black Zero media trail is the best thing going to courts is a futile exercise... let the word spread and voters will know that judges not letting govt to serve the masses...

you seriously need to get out of that shell mate.. PPP is about ruling mate not serving...people somehow continue to believe the founding ideology of the party yet its been turned upside down for a long time! they just cant realise because they continue to be enslaved by the feudals, makhdooms and the mafias that make up the PPP...

abidi now suspended from CEC of PPP and CJ taken notice of press conf...that guy is a tool of highest order... contempt of court it is again perhaps..

[Black Zero]

Originally Posted by Faisalabad you seriously need to get out of that shell mate.. PPP is about ruling mate not serving...people somehow continue to believe the founding ideology of the party yet its been turned upside down for a long time! they just cant realise because they continue to be enslaved by the feudals, makhdooms and the mafias that make up the PPP... abidi now suspended from CEC of PPP and CJ taken notice of press conf...that guy is a tool of highest order... contempt of court it is again perhaps..

I said voters will know...

Fact vs Perception

Yes FRA was fired earlier and now suspended ...as his is on mission,,,to de fame the chaudary

and PPPP would like some buffer.

[waqar_ahmad]

Just like PPP used Zulfiqar Mirza to damage MQM, they are using FRA to go to war with the SC. No performance, no ethics, all they do is make victims of themselves to get votes. Story of PPP, and they are trying to repeat that here as well

[saadibaba]

TV channels spreading vulgarity, PEMRA doing nothing: Chief justice ISLAMABAD: While hearing a letter filed by justice (retd) Wajihuddin and former Jamaat-e-Islami chief Kazi Hussain Ahmed against obscenity aired on TV channels, Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry observed on Monday that TV channels are “spreading vulgarity” and Pemra is doing nothing to prevent it. The Pemra acting chairman, Abdul Jabbar, who had appeared in the courtroom today, sought a month’s time to do the research, but the court denied his request. The Supreme Court also ruled that it is not yet forming a commission, but only granting a week’s time to the regulatory authority. The chief justice cited some offensive programmes and advertisements and said that one finds it difficult to watch them with family. He also said that some of them are aired even during Iftar time, which should be avoided. The chief justice told Jabbar to categorise programmes with proper ratings – like it is done in the Western media – so that the people should know beforehand what they are watching. The Pemra acting chairman stated that Indian channels were banned in Pakistan to restrain broadcast of any improper programmes and added that the Pakistani channels will now be screened for any such programmes. Jabbar further informed the court that laws related to regularity of the programmes were not well-defined and that vulgarity was relative. “Something which is vulgar to the complainants might not be vulgar to you and me.” While observing that TV channels now air press conferences and programmes against the judiciary, the Supreme Court ordered the Pemra acting chairman to pull out the record related to such programmes and bring it before the court in the next hearing. Justice Chaudhry observed that the court was aware about the TV shows which were aired solely for the purpose of maligning the judiciary. The court also observed that Jabbar is still working as an acting chairman of Pemra, while it has been over a year since he has been inducted. The deputy attorney general requested the court to also take notice of the TV shows that run parodies of politicians and leaders. The chief justice observed that such programmes are “in good humour” and that such programmes “are enjoyed.” Concurring with his statement, Justice Tariq Pervaiz said that such programmes are aired across the world and have never faced any dissent. Justice Pervaiz said that even in the United States, president Barack Obama’s parodies are aired on TV. However, he said that such parodies and cartoons should not be insulting and should not target religion. http://tribune.com.pk/story/418248/t...chief-justice/

The second coming of Zia ul Haq.

Interesting that they give the example of American media where Obama is made fun of, but forget that American media also makes fun and parodies of SC judges and their decisions big time. Just see "Jon Stewart Show" for example.

[Black Zero]

This is beyond hypocrisy...at this stage...it becomes incurable...

It's really interesting and entertaining to observe (from a distance) that all these players "saving/screwing" the system

Love it.

[zimmz]

SC rightly took notice of gutter level indian-copy channels spread across Pakistan. IMO there should be a referendum on contents of 'entertainment' media so that this rubbish is democratically kicked out.

[saadibaba]

^^^

So now SC will also do moral policing as if there is not enough things they have on their plate. How about fixing local courts. BTW, who will determine the criteria of vulgarity. One man's interpretation of vulgarity might be very different from another. Are we going to use Zia's era restrictions, all females need to wear dupatta on their heads etc. or something less. What I am trying to say is this will open a big can of worms. The truth is this is just plain populist propaganda. Every single thing they do is to please the conservative right in our country. I won't be surprised if tomorrow they will start issuing fatwa's on how people should dress in public. Where is this going to end.

[PTI tsunami]

This guy is simply a dog ( no offense to dogs )

[farhan]

Originally Posted by saadibaba The second coming of Zia ul Haq. Interesting that they give the example of American media where Obama is made fun of, but forget that American media also makes fun and parodies of SC judges and their decisions big time. Just see "Jon Stewart Show" for example.

totally agree with you.

[zimmz]

Originally Posted by saadibaba So now SC will also do moral policing as if there is not enough things they have on their plate.

Unfortunately SC is only insitute that some how works in Pakistan.

Originally Posted by saadibaba How about fixing local courts.

Let's pin our hopes on SC for that too.

Originally Posted by saadibaba BTW, who will determine the criteria of vulgarity. One man's interpretation of vulgarity might be very different from another. Are we going to use Zia's era restrictions, all females need to wear dupatta on their heads etc. or something less.

In the absence of gov. policies. proper democratic process and controlling institutes some one was bound to take action. To check the interpretations of people conduct a survey or refrendum.

Originally Posted by saadibaba What I am trying to say is this will open a big can of worms. The truth is this is just plain populist propaganda. Every single thing they do is to please the conservative right in our country.

Well 'conservative right' is in majority and might is right

Originally Posted by saadibaba I won't be surprised if tomorrow they will start issuing fatwa's on how people should dress in public. Where is this going to end.

I see no different end to what we have in european countries where certain faction of people are being told what not to wear

[saadibaba]

^^^

That's the same excuse Army gives when it takes over. The civilian govt. was ineffective so we had to step in and take control. It ends up eroding the democratic process. If you are ok with it than fine,but than lets just forget about Pakistan ever becoming a true democratic country.

[zimmz]

^ Unfortunately majority politicians don't care if Army or SC take over their roles. Instead they use the excuse of Army and SC to loot the country and they know this way they'll get chance at latest every 10 years .

[saadibaba]

^^^

No one willingly gives away their power. Just look at all the army coups in our history. BTW Army also loots the country, only we don't get to hear about it as much. Plus every time they come, they take the country further back on the road towards true democracy. If people know Army or Judiciary is going to save them every time they bring in bad politicians than there will be no incentive to vote for the right people next time. Everyone will vote for a party which can bring the most immediate benefits and forget about the long term consequences of their actions. This vicious cycle will continue forever.

[Black Zero]

I predict a shameful fate for Ch. PCO :a.q.khan

His son would escape to UAE/UK...

[zimmz]

Originally Posted by saadibaba ^^^ No one willingly gives away their power. Just look at all the army coups in our history. BTW Army also loots the country, only we don't get to hear about it as much. Plus every time they come, they take the country further back on the road towards true democracy. If people know Army or Judiciary is going to save them every time they bring in bad politicians than there will be no incentive to vote for the right people next time. Everyone will vote for a party which can bring the most immediate benefits and forget about the long term consequences of their actions. This vicious cycle will continue forever.

I am not defending army or SC but merely explaining why they do the undemocratic things.

Had politicians performed no army will dare to takeover and judiciary will be in order (actually these two institutions are corrupted by politicians themselves at first place).

[saadibaba]

^^^

You are right. Everything is politicians fault. If army takes over its their fault, if judiciary becomes aggressive it's their fault. And even corrupting the army and judiciary is their fault. Aik Politician he gande hain, baqi tu sab dodh ke dhulle howe hain.

[ahsan88]

Khalifa Ifti avey hi avey.

Shameless CJ.

[zimmz]

Originally Posted by saadibaba You are right. Everything is politicians fault. If army takes over its their fault, if judiciary becomes aggressive it's their fault. And even corrupting the army and judiciary is their fault. Aik Politician he gande hain, baqi tu sab dodh ke dhulle howe hain.

Samajdar ho gaiy ho aap.

[Looney]

ABIDI FOR PRIME MINISTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

petrol chor tha

[saadibaba]

Watch at 20 mins "Badami bhai anchor bano, Annu Khala na bano"

[Looney]

Saadibaba , are you a Peepliya ? I find you too reasonable and logical to be a PTI fan or Naraz League supporter

[saadibaba]

Originally Posted by Looney Saadibaba , are you a Peepliya ? I find you too reasonable and logical to be a PTI fan or Naraz League supporter

I would not like to categorize myself as a Pipliya or something other. I do agree with PPP's secular and liberal stance on issues, even though at times its too little too late. I also agree with their politics of compromise and reconciliation being the only major national political party. Of course their is a lot to be desired from them and the corruption, mismanagement and dynastic aspects of their politics leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I still believe that reforms from within can help change this pattern, it will take time but the world runs on hope.

[Black Zero]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2...rview_fz.shtml


As per Aitizaz , we got a rouge judiciary

[Aampakistani]

Originally Posted by Black Zero http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2...rview_fz.shtml As per Aitizaz , we got a rouge judiciary

As per Aitzaz we have a few rogue judges which is pretty close to the truth. Its insane to tar the whole process as rogue.

[Looney]

Originally Posted by saadibaba I would not like to categorize myself as a Pipliya or something other. I do agree with PPP's secular and liberal stance on issues, even though at times its too little too late. I also agree with their politics of compromise and reconciliation being the only major national political party. Of course their is a lot to be desired from them and the corruption, mismanagement and dynastic aspects of their politics leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I still believe that reforms from within can help change this pattern, it will take time but the world runs on hope.

Sums up how I feel about them as well , actually . Given the current set of leaders , I find Zardari to be the most intelligent leader . If I had to vote for any party , it would be PPP and it really says a lot about the lack of good leadership right now .

[Looney]

Originally Posted by Black Zero http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2...rview_fz.shtml As per Aitizaz , we got a rouge judiciary

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by saadibaba I would not like to categorize myself as a Pipliya or something other. I do agree with PPP's secular and liberal stance on issues, even though at times its too little too late. I also agree with their politics of compromise and reconciliation being the only major national political party. Of course their is a lot to be desired from them and the corruption, mismanagement and dynastic aspects of their politics leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. I still believe that reforms from within can help change this pattern, it will take time but the world runs on hope.

If you supporting PPP based on their policies, their views or their manifesto, show me one political party who has bad view or bad manifesto. You are too smart to know, how much PPP follow on their own manifesto or policies and what is their current manifesto.

Just like many people support MQM, because they are Muhajirs ( irrespective of their current action and behavior), you might like Zardari as well ( for unknown reasons) , so you have right to support PPP as well. But please do not try to give baashan ( lecture) for your reasoning to support the party

[saadibaba]

Originally Posted by zaid65 If you supporting PPP based on their policies, their views or their manifesto, show me one political party who has bad view or bad manifesto. You are too smart to know, how much PPP follow on their own manifesto or policies and what is their current manifesto. Just like many people support MQM, because they are Muhajirs ( irrespective of their current action and behavior), you might like Zardari as well ( for unknown reasons) , so you have right to support PPP as well. But please do not try to give baashan ( lecture) for your reasoning to support the party

Zaid, like I said in my earlier post, I am not happy with the current PPP govt. The corruption, mismanagement and just the overall slimy way they operate makes me sick. I do not admire Zardari because of his policies but because of his ability to hold on to power. Being a student of politics its hard not to appreciate his cunning and slyness. But while I dislike Zardari and PPP govt., I absolutely despise the right wing/establishment politicians and their politics. To me people who want to continue with Zia's vision of Pakistan and turn our country into a rigid and xenophobic society are the biggest threat to our survival. Corruption is a big issue but terrorism and extremism is a bigger issue for me and I don't like politicians who try to hide it under the carpet by calling it a reactionary movement because of US presence or drones etc. and fail to highlight the dangerous symbiotic relationship between our security establishment and these extremist groups. PPP has a lot of faults but at least it takes a strong view on terrorism, even though at times it is not able to fully exert its vision because of our security establishment's firm grip on this matter. Unfortunately there is no other big national party which comes close to addressing this issue in the way I think it needs to be addressed other than PPP. Than again, I am not trying to convince anyone here to agree with me or join my cause. Looney asked me a question and I owed him an honest answer. As for baashan, yaar aap tu naraz hogae, hamari kia auqaat ke kisi ko baashan dain.

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by saadibaba Zaid, like I said in my earlier post, I am not happy with the current PPP govt. The corruption, mismanagement and just the overall slimy way they operate makes me sick. I do not admire Zardari because of his policies but because of his ability to hold on to power. Being a student of politics its hard not to appreciate his cunning and slyness. But while I dislike Zardari and PPP govt., I absolutely despise the right wing/establishment politicians and their politics. To me people who want to continue with Zia's vision of Pakistan and turn our country into a rigid and xenophobic society are the biggest threat to our survival. Corruption is a big issue but terrorism and extremism is a bigger issue for me and I don't like politicians who try to hide it under the carpet by calling it a reactionary movement because of US presence or drones etc. and fail to highlight the dangerous symbiotic relationship between our security establishment and these extremist groups. PPP has a lot of faults but at least it takes a strong view on terrorism, even though at times it is not able to fully exert its vision because of our security establishment's firm grip on this matter. Unfortunately there is no other big national party which comes close to addressing this issue in the way I think it needs to be addressed other than PPP. Than again, I am not trying to convince anyone here to agree with me or join my cause. Looney asked me a question and I owed him an honest answer. As for baashan, yaar aap tu naraz hogae, hamari kia auqaat ke kisi ko baashan dain.

I am not a student of politics, but I know one thing, if you want to defeat the terrorism, you have to win the hearts of common people. Since PPP Govt came to power, they are busy in corruption, mismanagement, their appointment of pathetic and non professional people ( FOR SELFISH REASONS) on key posts ( including the PM, CM) has created a far bigger mess and chaos in the country than to solve the main crises. This was not the way to defeat the terrorism.

I personally think, they are not sincere in deafting the terrorism or solving common people problem, they came in power for the cause and the cause is well obvious ( to make tons of money), which is not hidden from you or from other people.

I respect your choice to support any party but please come out with better logical explanation or better answer, current logic might be good enough to satisfy to a 15 year die hard blind MQM kaarkun ( Looney), but not good enough for some educated posters on this forum

[farazaidi]

this guy has actual fan following on facebook. I mean seriously???

[MRSN]

this guy has no manners and is mental..should never be on tv!!