Pakistan Oppose ICC

[Easa]

Request for six-day Tests also on the cards at ICC meeting Pakistan opposes new appeals system Cricinfo staff June 27, 2006 The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has said that it will oppose the ICC's proposal to allow teams to appeal against decisions made by the on-field umpires during the annual ICC meeting in London on July 2. The ICC's cricket committee made a recommendation last month that both teams be allowed three appeals to the third umpire if they feel there is doubt about a decision of the on-field umpires. If approved, it would be tried out on an experimental basis in the Champions Trophy in India in October. But the PCB, after conducting their own survey, fear that such an innovation could have a negative impact on the Spirit of Cricket. "We are opposed to this proposal and we will put across our point of view strongly to the ICC," Shaharyar Khan, PCB chairman, told Reuters. "We conducted a survey of 35 of our players and umpires and 33 of them are opposed to this law. They feel it will undermine the spirit of the game and the umpire's authority even if it is experimented with in the Champions Trophy." Incidentally, Javed Miandad has also voiced a similar opinion on the issue, saying that it would make a mockery of the game. Meanwhile, Shaharyar also told Reuters that they intend to push for six-day Tests during the winter season for matches held in Punjab. The proposal is meant to compensate for time lost due to bad light mostly to fog during the season in that region. Play was lost on a daily basis in Faisalabad and Lahore when Pakistan hosted England and India last winter and the PCB made a request to extend play by a day, which was initially rejected. "The ICC rejected our earlier request but we have not given up and we think we might get a chance to go for bilateral arrangements," he said. "If the ICC does not allow six-day tests nor floodlights then they must come up with a viable solution because this is a real problem for us in winter." © Cricinfo

Views on this?

[Daoud]

I agree. The solution isnt appeals but greater umpire competance.
6 day test is a silly idea

[Easa]

For once Shahryar makes sense.

6 day Tests are stupid, I agree with you.

[KA$H]

agree with the 6 day test matches, but can't see the ICC backing down to the PCB

it'd be a different story if it was teh BCCI i'm sure

[Big Harvey]

I fully agree with the PCB on both issues.

[akpower]

No need for 6-day thats just going too far. As for appealing, it would help Pak. Asian teams bare the brunt of umpires' decisions. This probably gives them a chance for a fairer result.

[MWH]

Don't understand why Shehryar Khan wants to oppose the proposed appeals system before its even been tried. I believe it could be a step in the right direction. In recent times especially far too many games seem to contain a number of umpiring shockers which have had a huge impact on the outcome of a match. The players and not the umpires should be the ones responsible for changing the tide of a game.

[Big Harvey]

Originally Posted by MWH Don't understand why Shehryar Khan wants to oppose the proposed appeals system before its even been tried. I believe it could be a step in the right direction. In recent times especially far too many games seem to contain a number of umpiring shockers which have had a huge impact on the outcome of a match. The players and not the umpires should be the ones responsible for changing the tide of a game.

The system would be open to abuse. It would be used as a time-wasting ploy, and would further slow the game down. I also think introducing legalised dissent into the game, which is essentially what this move would amount to, could open up a very big can of worms, and undermine the authority of the umpires.

As for the suggestion of six day Tests (for winter games only) in Pakistan, it seems to me to be a very sensible solution to the problem of inadequate daylight hours at that time of year. I can't see why anyone would have any objection to it. The move would allow the same number of overs to be bowled as in a Test match anywhere else in the world, and allow for time lost to the weather to be made up.

[Daoud]

The thing is bad light isnt so much of an issue in Karachi. While it gets dark before 5 in Punjab, it takes another hour for it to get dark in Karachi. SO will it be a 6 day test in all of Pakistan or just certain places?

Besides, looking at the 2 series played last season, there were 3 wins for Pakistan and 3 draws. Only 1 of those draws could be said to have been due to light issues.

[Tariq Jamshed]

I recall suggesting the 6 day test idea on this board before it was taken up by PCB. Disappointing to note that ICC has rejected it once - it makes perfect sense and hopefully sense would prevail at ICC on this issue.

Also PCB is right in my opinion in opposing the appeals system - this is a very bad idea indeed and hopefully would flop in its experimental phase and head the same way as the super sub rule - in the dust bin of cricket history.

[CHANDTARA]

cricket is alright the way it is, no need to change the rules

[Fish]

Could be some politics happening here, Pakistan will concede on the appeals and the ICC will concede on the 6 days.

[hindsy]

instead of 6 day tests, they should just start earlier... Agree with the PCB on the appealing though

[Big Harvey]

Originally Posted by Fish Could be some politics happening here, Pakistan will concede on the appeals and the ICC will concede on the 6 days.

I hope you're wrong. The appeals idea is a terrible one, even by the standards of the ICC, an organisation which has clearly lost the plot.

[Tariq Jamshed]

The appeals idea is such a big can of worms of which ICC seems to have little idea - being ICC of course.

[akpower]

Appealing would probably mean a fairer result even though it would slow down the game a bit. I would rather waste 2 mins then see a team/player hard done by what is basically a list of mostly incompetent umpires, not to forget the "home" umpires.

6 days for me is too much. Whats next, 7 days, in places where it rains even more? If PCB is so concerned abt results, then they shd step up and produce harder pitches for the test matches. The Lahore pitch against England was a much more result oriented pitch imo and indeed we got a result, as was the Karachi pitch in the India test.

I think PCB's requests on both issues will be rejected and they will once again look like the fools that they are. Excuse the bitterness, but I just can't stand this PCB management.