Paul Condon - ICC Anti-Corruption Chief re 'grooming of players'

[Ali888]

I think his interview showed on Sky is a very important piece of evidence.

It is easy to jump to conclusions and blame ANYONE who had contact with sleazy agents.

BUT what Condon says is these worms worm their way into peoples confidence by first posing as fans, then helping arrange sponsorship and then starting to ask simply about team line-ups.

I think Pakpassion and Aamer are innocent parties in this who have been GROOMED by devious sleazy people.

Let us not hold a kangaroo court and find Aamer or Pakpassion guilty. They were just unwitting victims of this as all of us have been.

Seniors and Management have real responsibility here.

[Gollum]

Unfair to lump Aamer with PP by any stretch

[the Great Khan]

Agnew said the same thing..he said some of these young players get sucked in without realising and before they know it they are being threatened etc..I think the way mazhar talked to aamir in the NOTW article almost shows that...we should also look at the root cause..betting syndicates themselves and their hq mumbai!!

[fawad_wellwisher]

What has PP got to do with this?? Why bring them in this?

[shan]

I know PPers love Amir, maybe because he is the only decent player involved apart from Asif? While many ppers will be more then happy to see rest of accused banned for life.

[*sallu*]

Your logic is flawed

That way no man ever can be faulted for his actions because he was once groomed the wrong way either by his (i) parents (ii) friends (iii) in this case the agent etc etc

[Ali888]

Mazhar and Azhar Majeed 'used' Pakpassion to further the interests of thier clients. Do you think sleazy agents were doing this out of the goodness of their heart ? No unfortunately PP were used as unwilling pawns.

[Ali888]

sallu I don't care about your villager opinions.

I am relaying what Sir Paul Condon the former Head of the Metropolitan Police and ICC Anti-Corruption Chief said.

[LegendsXI]

Utter BS. HE made a conscious decision to cheat and must face the consequences.

[shaykh1985]

Well according to Majeed he has known the side for years and the approach was made by the players who sought out opportunities to spot fix matches...

The guy has been candid generally and it didnt seem a misplaced comment...hes a disgrace for brokering such agreements for the players but I get the impression many blame him for corrupting the players...corrupt players utilised a corrupt guy for their own greed...they are as bad as each other...

And whilst someone who seeks out an opportunity is a disgrace so is the opportunist...he has the option to say no...some of you talk about aamer like hes pre pubescant...

[Ali888]

LOL drowning man clutches at straws

Did not know they allowed you internet access in prison

[Desire]

Originally Posted by gollumbird Unfair to lump Aamer with PP by any stretch

ok then leave everyone. or fine them 50% of match fee and pick them for SA coz ppp is in power. When your land is occupied and case is in the court you will not argue that you can let go your land as ppp is corrupt. Similarly, amir is payed salary from tax payers money and those tax payers include mazdor, rairi walay who work all day to earn 500 rupees. When they buy food, tax is deducted from it and goes to govt who gives it to pcb and it reaches amir's bank account . So a mazdoor is paying for amir's salary. Its easy to say coz ppp is there so let everyone do what he wants.

[Awesome_Username]

Originally Posted by Desire ok then leave everyone. or fine them 50% of match fee and pick them for SA coz ppp is in power. When your land is occupied and case is in the court you will not argue that you can let go your land as ppp is corrupt. Similarly, amir is payed salary from tax payers money and those tax payers include mazdor, rairi walay who work all day to earn 500 rupees. When they buy food, tax is deducted from it and goes to govt who gives it to pcb and it reaches amir's bank account . Its easy to say coz ppp is there so let everyone do what he wants.

Actually, I don't think Amir is paid by the taxpayers. The PCB, except for perhaps the odd financial bailout, are a semi private organization who make their own money and use it to pay their employees.

[Ali888]

I think you can disregard the views of a simpleton who seems to be confused between PP (Pakpassion) and PPP (Pakistan Peoples Party)