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EXPOSED: News of the World’s lies, dirty tactics and gutter journalism
Firstly, let’s get one thing very clear. Yasir Hameed DID NOT give any interview to NOTW. Fact. They went undercover, and he expressed only his private opinions.
Secondly, the whole article is based on the frankly ludicrous claim that Yasir Hameed has admitted that almost every match was fixed. Now, with most of us able to understand basic Urdu, let’s break down the exact conversation. Reporter: The players say that fixing went on in almost every match (frankly ridiculous in itself since no player has ever admitted that) Hameed: Almost Reporter: Sure? Hameed: That’s what the newspaper reports say So Hameed has expressed an OPINION based on newspaper reports he has read. He is not claiming to know that almost all matches were fixed, but that the newspaper reports said they were. Hameed is not admitting to know anything at all. It's a bit like me saying, 'did you hear, NOTW reported that Pakistanis were involved in match fixing for the past 2.5 years', and the next minute NOTW runs a headline saying 'Usman exposes Pakistani match fixing that has been going on for 2.5 years'. Notice how the NOTW conveniently forget to mention that this interview was done undercover. They couldn't stop boasting about how they exposed Majeed and co with an undercover sting, yet don't mention it once in this article. Why? Well because they want to give the impression that Yasir Hameed gave them that interview in order to expose his team mates. At no point do they mention that the remarks were made in casual conversation, and that Hameed was clearly expressing his opinions. So as the News of the World would say, we at Pakpassion can sensationally reveal that the NOTW has presented no new evidence to suggest that further match fixing went on during this tour or the tour of Australia. As before, there remains substantial proof for only one allegation, and that is for spot fixing. There is no evidence of match fixing in any allegation. |
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well yasir hammed should not be opeing his mouth about so a difficult issue in the 1st place.
the shouldnt be allowed to talk to any1 about match fixing.
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Yes it is gutter journalism but doesn't mean the players are not involved in both spot and match fixing.
NOTW has a newspaper to sell which they are doing the way they always do. I expect more evidence to come out in the coming weeks.
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PP mods should really put a check on no. of threads here.
@Topic: No doubt, this so-called 'interview' is nothing but hogwash. Doesnt prove a thing although Hameed may be interrogated now by ACU |
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Thanks for making this thread. I was going mad on how such a clear cut, credibility revealing manipulation can go without us creating a thread PP. Thanks.
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Recycle-save the world
It looks like NOTW's M. Mahmoud spent last week eating porky pies and sh!t pizza. Though he manage to recycle the pizza boxes and week old news. Nothing special this week. The lad had our hopes high, what a let down , eh?
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What comes out for me through this conversation is that Yasir was presenting his thoughts and opinions which may or may not be true as he has not been in the team for some time. If he made any first hand quotes about something he saw personally then it is different. This is not different than me laying allegations on a player.
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Just look how Aussie have defended and covered up Warne and others. If only NOTW was there to catch Warne red handed.
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None of what he has said has any credence really - he seems like he was under the influence and people say the most bizarre things when they are drunk
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He refused 150,000 pounds to fix the game but sold himself on cheap glass of white wine to throw mud on his teammates and country.
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Guys, there is a part II of this video which will be coming out at a later date. If i know NOTW tactics and i think i do, they are going to realese all these so called "evidence" bit by bit.
What i am interested in knowing is how much money NOTW is making through this increased publicity stunt. They got atleast Pakistanis around the world checking their websites every minute. How many papers have they sold so far since this story broke. They are trying to pose themselves as some saintly organization who is doing the right thing. Bull crap!!!! They have a history of false reporting and have been sued on many occasions for libel and defamation. We are all getting revved up for nothing and are falling pray to their tactics. Our media should try to debunk this farce instead of joining them and so should we. |
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of course this video cant be shown as evidence in front of english court. but fact is that , know whole world knows that pakistan players are fixers and cheats. |
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It is gutter journalism.
Second, it seems that Yasir is speculating and guessing rather than making statement. This is a non news. |
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Denials will make pak govt look even more stupid, not sure if most pakistanis have realized this yet
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don b stupd there is a video evidence ,,, google it
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Thanks to wayne rooney cheating on coleen, we won't make the full front page this week
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and i herd on GEO they offerd him £50,000 to match fix and he refused thats a honest player right there and he can sue them so atleast someone can finally sue them
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agreed. Yasir should sue NOTW and take them to cleaners. This kind of behavior is criminal. They can not use an honest man like this!
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Thankfully this is not done by Indian Media.......that would have created furore between 2 countries.
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I wouldn't be surprised Notw reporters read our comments daily to check our sentiments and act accordingly ....the SCUM BAGS.
Show me one footage just ONE footage NOTW that can not be disputed and I promise to buy your papers every Sunday. So far everything they have shown us can easily be argued and is completely baseless would not hold up in court but have to admit does make you wonder who their script writers are... I'm guessing film producers. |
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I agree with the OP. The video is not incriminating in any form. Yasir Hameed has said nothing wrong, unless there is a part 2 of the video waiting to be released.
Surely NOTW can't be that stupid to release just one video that is very baseless.
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What a HUGE let down. NOTW promissed so much and there is nothing at all.
They are feeding Hameed to repeat something and even he then say God knows as he is clueless. If I see this guy Majeed he is the 3rd worst guy in my books now after Zardari and I.Butt for Pak cricket |
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A man is only honest if he comes out now and tells all he knows I suspect many players who know things are keeping quiet... cuz they fear PCB will take vengeance on them this is so sad... we need some brave souls to come out on Geo TV and expose it all !!!! Lets do a major clean up now that the mess has come out... |
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The Pakistan team has been exposed as match fixers and cheats and some posters are more interested in shooting the messenger. Who really cares what the NOTW write or put on thier front page Pakistan cricket has bigger problems to deal with.
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When I first read the NOTW article, I honestly felt like pelting stones at Yasir because I was led to believe by the article that Yasir had actually given an interview to the newspaper, which would have meant he was paid handsomely to expose his team mates. I thought he too had sold his country. However, when I watched the video, I realised that firstly this was an undercover interview where Yasir was clearly drunk and where he wasn't even saying the things the article claimed he was saying. He wasn't saying that 'almost every match is fixed', but more like 'that’s what the newspapers say and God knows what the truth is'. NOTW have absolutely no right to lead the reading public to believe that one of our own players has decided to expose the others, because that is a complete fabrication. Where the evidence is there, such as in the spot fixing videos, the players must be punished. Where NOTW makes things up, they too must be held to account. Last edited by Usman; 5th September 2010 at 05:38. |
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Usman you're a very level-headed poster and I've agreed completely with most of your threads in the past week or so.
Another excellent thread, it's pretty much common sense which is seriously lacking on this forum nowadays.
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In The Video Does He Mention These Statements ? : ''It makes me angry because I'm playing my best and they are trying to lose.'', "They're gone - forget about them.", "Just look at my average. It's 38, 39 (runs scored per innings). Which player in the world has that average and is dropped?" Or This "If I was playing for any other country, what would I be now? I'd be the team captain."
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This is all drama. everyone including players are playing it. playing with our emotions. there is no truth in anything that is shown on media. Now i am not sure if rana naveed was banned or he is injured.
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The extent of some fan's denial is genuinely amusing, and would slightly worry me if I cared
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Good post Usman.
Like some other posters here, I was shocked when I first read the interview, as it looked like he knew matchfixing was taking place for sure. But once I watched the interview, I can see why Hameed is denying the claims promptly. The players in the team should see the video, they will clearly see that NOTW are reporting one thing and Hameed is saying something else. One need to understand urdu, to clearly see that Hameeds conversation is taken out of context. Whatever he said about matchfixing was his opinion based on what has been happening just recently. No where are there any claims as to what has been going on. Actually, I think the NOTW have shot them selves in the foot on this one, IF it becomes clear to the general public that Hameed was expressing an opinion like so many of us have done in the past week, the newspaper will loose some credibility. I feel sorry for Hameed. This could have happened to any of the players. |
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I don't know if you live in the UK or not but this is the most convincing and extensive accumulation of evidence on one subject that I've ever seen in the British media.
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guys i have heard that whole video is of 40 mins but they showed only 2 mins of it...
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The News of the World has done nothing but gain credibility from this whole episode, I assure you. Many Brits have always bought the News of the World every week, but plenty of others have long viewed it as a crappy tabloid and ignored it. however, since the spot-fixing allegations first arose, the public here have recognised the wonderful, devastating journalism on display and been taking the NotW very seriously. after all, the Brits who avoid the tabloids and follow the likes of the BBC and the Guardian are now just reading stories on those websites that have been brought to light by the NotW. The NotW sports editor said last night on SSN that it is one of the best stories he has ever been involved in from a journalist's perspective, and it's hard to deny him that. as someone who avoids the Sun and the NotW like the plague for various reasons, I may even go and buy today's edition out of interest, because it is so utterly relevant to our times.
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what a load of hot air, yasir hasn't said anything more than whats in the public arean anyway. i'm sue he's quoted that $1.8m figure having heard Veena malik mention it! Over the relevant period, Hameed has had very little to do with the team
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you are right that they do not care for the consequences here, which is what tells me that they are onto something. the NotW have affected many lives and also ripped their own England football set-up in two with their stories in the past - they have no bias, which I should put out there to assure some of the more worried Pakistan fans that the NotW are not coming after them specifically. if there's a story, they go to town on it until there is no blood left to squeeze out, and they're known for it. at the end of the day, the NotW can always justify their actions, whomever is left without a career, by claiming their right to free speech and their duty to inform the people. democracy really can be this cruel. looks like it is Pakistan cricket's turn to pay.
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Lol just watched the video fully.
Hameed says nothing! He's basing what he's saying on what he read in NOTW, which is fair enough.
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Someone should contact Yasir and tell them to sue the NOTW and get loadsa money outta them
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The only genuinely weak point in this whole NOTW story I see till now has been Hameed's 'interview'. They've done a pretty good job on the rest of it.
If Hameed can plead his case successfully to ICC (which I believe he can because I feel he genuinely was tricked), then he has a case against NOTW. Apart from this, NOTW has done a great job. We have to give them that. Had it been any other country's team, we would have believed everything in the blink of an eye too, admit it. ![]() A few years down the line, we might be thanking NOTW and Mazhar Mehmood.
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Why would Yasir even be questioned by the ICC? It's not like he was talking to a bookie.
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It could have been an ex Pakistan manager who exposed them, Bob Woolmer via a ouija board.
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- the 4 mansions rant about asif vs. his own house - that he thinks he was left out of the team because of his honesty - about the match in CT which was not brought up by NOTW And more. Personally I feel Hameed was just bragging, but NOTW did not distort a lot of stuff he said. |
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there's an article with some interesting revelations about how NOTW set up this sting operation, how they won over majeed's trust, etc. it mentions their tactic of having several undercover reporters around, all fitted with hidden cameras, to ensure that they have backup if one camera fails or the audio is lost or something (apparently this is common when the cams are hidden). that article also has some interesting bits about kamran akmal being the one to get azhar majeed into the hotel after his entry was banned by yawar saeed.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...2&postcount=29 posted a thread on it, because i thought it had some pretty significant piece of NEW information, but it got merged and buried. (thank you, moderators!) |
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He is not a kid and knowing the sensitivity of the issue and dirty journalism of UK newspapers he should know when and in front of whom he should be expressing his opinions..very childish of Yasir Hameed to have done this...NOTW we all know are in to gutter journalism
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Watch the interview of Yasir Hameed's brother Saqib Hameed telling the full story..
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After watching the video, i was quite surprised how Yasir knew exact figure of Sydney test. WTH???
He didn't represent the team for couple of years, recently joined the squad and knew it was 1.8 million Pounds?? Where did Pounds come from anyway??? I know it sounds stupid but even if he knew about figure it would have been in DOLLARS rather than POUNDS. How did that figure come to his mind???? Then that guy almost puts words in Hameed's mouth by saying that guys must have talked to you about that..............Why would they talk about match fixing figures months after it allegedly happened in front of Hameed????? Pakistani players are definitely involved in spot fixing and i would definitely want them to be punished but NOTW is purely RUBBISH and i wouldn't really trust them one bit (just like i won't trust Butt and Asif) after watching this video. |
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^ Waseem Hameed has clarified by saying he got the 1.8 million figure from the NOTW article he read, which he was basing all of what he said upon!
Basically a massive twist by the newspaper!
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