Are you an optimist or a pessimist when it comes to cricket?

[Mercenary]

Do you always see the glass as half empty or as half full?

Are you someone who believes that your team can win in all circumstances against any opposition even on their worst day.

Or do you expect the worst and sit there watching an opening partnership of 200/0 waiting for your team to be 215 all out within 20 minutes?

Do you dare to wear your heart on your sleeve and predict great things from your team or do you prefer to be more conservative and expect the worst possible scenario knowing that that way you wont be too disappointed if you're right but ecsatic if you're wrong?

Please explain why you are what you are!

[Officer Barbrady]

I would like to use the word realist.

[z10]

i prefer to enjoy the game

and well played to the winner

[Geordie Ahmed]

i dont like being optimistic (tends to hurt a lot) BUT i dont like pessimism either - so im an inbetweener - a pessioptimist if you like

[jalex382]

I like to think positive, but wouldnt go as far as saying that shoaib akhtar is gonna score hundered and Inzi will get 10 wickets, but sure they will be at their best and give us a test seriese win. Thats wat we have been waiting for a while now.

[Mercenary]

I'm an eternal optimist.

I just cant believe we will lose whatever happens.

I remember during the 99 WC final I was telling myself that we can bowl the Ausies out with our attack if we try hard enough!

I always expect Afridi to mutilate the bowlers, Inzi to save us from certain defeat and Akhtar to bowl the opposition out!

[Geordie Ahmed]

well i've voted for "It depends on the opposition and the teams fitness and form!"

i do believe that on our day we can beat anyone BUT i know the reality of it is different! i always support the team 100% but am not always confident they will win

[Mercenary]

you guys wait till DM, Monsee, Farhad, Raz, Hafridi and the lads get here! We optimists will show you what for!!

[zushy_786]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed well i've voted for "It depends on the opposition and the teams fitness and form!" i do believe that on our day we can beat anyone BUT i know the reality of it is different! i always support the team 100% but am not always confident they will win

Same here

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Mercenary you guys wait till DM, Monsee, Farhad, Raz, Hafridi and the lads get here! We optomists will show you what for!!

you wait til AJ, Elan and Co get here - you will see the pessimist briagade in full flow - they will show

[Officer Barbrady]

What's an optomist

[Mercenary]

Originally Posted by Marooned What's an optomist

Yeah i just noticed that. my spelling is going to the dogs!

[Officer Barbrady]

Originally Posted by Mercenary Yeah i just noticed that. my spelling is going to the dogs!

That is one of the good things about pp.

[Big Mac]

Originally Posted by Marooned That is one of the good things about pp.

It promotes illiteracy?

[zushy_786]

Originally Posted by Big Mac It promotes illiteracy?

I think he means illteracy

[Raz]

Like Merc im an eternal optimist. I always look to be positive even if the odds are stacked against us.

About the 1999 final Merc i still remember watching it on TV. We were getting hammered and Shoaib came on to bowl. I can remember saying to my mum

"Watch out Shoaib's on now. Hes going to do something for us."

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Raz Like Merc im an eternal optimist. I always look to be positive even if the odds are stacked against us. About the 1999 final Merc i still remember watching it on TV. We were getting hammered and Shoaib came on to bowl. I can remember saying to my mum "Watch out Shoaib's on now. Hes going to do something for us."

pull a hamstring did you say???

[Hash]

i am an eternal optimist

[Mercenary]

methinks the pessimists are hiding behind the convenience of the realist cloak!!

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Mercenary methinks the pessimists are hiding behind the convenience of the realist cloak!!

i think you might be right there - i dont believe for a second there are no pessimists on PP

I guess they must be early sleepers - wait til the morning

[Mercenary]

GA i think its more a case of the fact that pessimism sounds negative, i doubt even AJ would think of himself as a pessimist!

I would class all the realists as 'realistically' being closet pessimists!!

[Toony™®]

i like to be a realist. But still reckon Pakistan have the talent to beat England..if they choose the right combo and players decide to turn up and be counted.

[Monsee]

I change hats all the time...usually I am a 10% pessimist and 90% optimist (Anything in general)

But when it comes to cricket and then Pak cricket, I usually become an optimist...especially when I see the Pessimist Brigade depressing everyone here and at home

Someone's gotta kick them around after all

[zulfiqar]

I replied optimist

I think the phrase about "being an optimist can hurt" applies to my dad. He has high hopes of even Mohammad Sami when we are chasing a big target, and when he fails his heart gets broken.

While chasing in our 1st or 2nd odi in India I remember I was behind Rana and Arshad Khan all the way And 1999 WC final.. lol funny how few people brought it up; i was definitely on the same boat however I was praying for rain rather than a Wasim or Shoaib special (counts as being optimist sort of .. right? )

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Mercenary GA i think its more a case of the fact that pessimism sounds negative, i doubt even AJ would think of himself as a pessimist! I would class all the realists as 'realistically' being closet pessimists!!

I am a realist BUT i wudnt say im a pessimist!
i have bits of both (optimism and pessimism) and it fluctuates between the two depending on the situation - tho im more optmistic than pessimistic

I mean against england i think we can do well if we pick the right side BUT at the same time the england bowling attack is very good and that aspect worries me

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Monsee I change hats all the time...usually I am a 10% pessimist and 90% optimist (Anything in general) But when it comes to cricket and then Pak cricket, I usually become an optimist...especially when I see the Pessimist Brigade depressing everyone here and at home Someone's gotta kick them around after all

this is a good point - i usually become a hardcore optimist when i see the pessimists out in force - like we saw before the India series when they were saying we will get smashed 3-0 cos its the worst pak sides, Inzi is rubbish, YK is a lassi maker etc etc

[Monsee]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed this is a good point - i usually become a hardcore optimist when i see the pessimists out in force - like we saw before the India series when they were saying we will get smashed 3-0 cos its the worst pak sides, Inzi is rubbish, YK is a lassi maker etc etc

....and Malik is a ********/Bits-n-pieces/Flat Track Bully player

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Monsee ....and Malik is a ********/Bits-n-pieces/Flat Track Bully player

i only gave a few examples - if i gave them all i would use up all of PP's bandwith

[Monsee]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed i only gave a few examples - if i gave them all i would use up all of PP's bandwith

Yet you will fail to reach the ferver with which a select few preach their message of LOVE towards these C*rap players

[desi_larka420]

I expect anything to happen but I "always" have faith.

[Nauman]

I have to be the biggest pessimist on this board and I have a valid reason too, when you are an optimist and team doesnt perform to your expectations it hurts alot where as if you are a pesemist you win the game it great but when you loose it was what you expected so doesnt make much of a difference really.

The only pesemist besides me I can think of is AJ and maybe the new guys like kas.

[MWH]

At the start of every new Pakistan game (ODI or test), I always have an optimistic attitude, expecting the boys to put on a good show.

Sometimes, during test matches when Pak is getting pulverized in the field by the opposition batsmen though I do begin to wonder how the hell we are going to bowl them out!

[Raz]

Originally Posted by Nauman I have to be the biggest pessimist on this board and I have a valid reason too, when you are an optimist and team doesnt perform to your expectations it hurts alot where as if you are a pesemist you win the game it great but when you loose it was what you expected so doesnt make much of a difference really. The only pesemist besides me I can think of is AJ and maybe the new guys like kas.

Nauman bai i dont believe there is a single 100% pessimist on this forum. If that was the case they could not be defined as a fan of Pakistani cricket. Everyone here wants to see the team succeed and be the no1 team in the world. Where everyone differs is how to go about it exactly!

[kas]

to be fair u can't blame a **** fan for being pessimistic. everybody knows **** players have the most talent but they have no temperament and they throw their wickets away. because of the fact the pak team are so inconsistent its hard not to be worried about a batting collapse. over they years the pak team has had so many collapses when it looked like they were gonna make big totals.

u just dont know what gonna happen next. look at 99 world cup. they kicked austrlia's A$$ in group match but they collapsed in final. i am sure everyone was optimistic for the final but look wat happened.

i am the kind of guys who looks at things rationally. in my mind i do think pak can do it no matter wat. for example in india when razzaq and akmal saved us. that night i went to sleep and i said to my bro that pak can still do it. i wanted to believe it even though there was a 5% chance only.

my conclusion is that with pak cricket there are times where u r optimistic but also times where u r pessimistic. but that is wat makes pak cricket lovable. they all keep u watching cos u don' know wats gonna happen next.

for the england series i think england are favourites but in my mind i think pak can do it as well. who knows????

[Raz]

Originally Posted by kas to be fair u can't blame a **** fan for being pessimistic. everybody knows **** players have the most talent but they have no temperament and they throw their wickets away. because of the fact the pak team are so inconsistent its hard not to be worried about a batting collapse. over they years the pak team has had so many collapses when it looked like they were gonna make big totals. u just dont know what gonna happen next. look at 99 world cup. they kicked austrlia's A$$ in group match but they collapsed in final. i am sure everyone was optimistic for the final but look wat happened. i am the kind of guys who looks at things rationally. in my mind i do think pak can do it no matter wat. for example in india when razzaq and akmal saved us. that night i went to sleep and i said to my bro that pak can still do it. i wanted to believe it even though there was a 5% chance only. my conclusion is that with pak cricket there are times where u r optimistic but also times where u r pessimistic. but that is wat makes pak cricket lovable. they all keep u watching cos u don' know wats gonna happen next. for the england series i think england are favourites but in my mind i think pak can do it as well. who knows????

With all due respect could you not use the work "****". Some find it very offensive.

[kas]

Originally Posted by Raz With all due respect could you not use the work "****". Some find it very offensive.

if u are **** u wont find it offensive wen it comes from a fellow ****. but if u want me to stop i will from here onwards

[Raz]

Originally Posted by kas if u are **** u wont find it offensive wen it comes from a fellow ****. but if u want me to stop i will from here onwards

I dont particularly mind myself because i know you dont have the wrong intention when using it. Its just that some people here might think otherwise.

[kas]

Originally Posted by Raz I dont particularly mind myself because i know you dont have the wrong intention when using it. Its just that some people here might think otherwise.

true say

[safehands46]

I have never been a pessimist when it comes to cricket. I always am an optimist and realist. As for the pakistani team, I am an optimist but not the type that make a person god after one series. I understand cricket, in the context of history and pride. I tend to be hater on the tv cricketer who start going afridi is the greatest ever.

[kas]

Originally Posted by safehands46 I have never been a pessimist when it comes to cricket. I always am an optimist and realist. As for the pakistani team, I am an optimist but not the type that make a person god after one series. I understand cricket, in the context of history and pride. I tend to be hater on the tv cricketer who start going afridi is the greatest ever.

your right. afridi can never be considered a great unless he adapts his game to the situation. like flintoff has ability to be great because he is now adapting different batting styles depending on context of game. flintoff is maturing in his batting.

i think afridi bowling is maturing but his batting ain't and it looks like it never will

[Raz]

Originally Posted by kas your right. afridi can never be considered a great unless he adapts his game to the situation. like flintoff has ability to be great because he is now adapting different batting styles depending on context of game. flintoff is maturing in his batting. i think afridi bowling is maturing but his batting ain't and it looks like it never will

Afridi will always play how he wants. He will never change!

[kas]

Originally Posted by Raz Afridi will always play how he wants. He will never change!

thats y flintoff is better in my opinion. flintoff has emulated botham but afridi will never emulate imran khan because of his rush of blood and impatience.

don't get me wrong he is still the first player on my teamsheet in both forms of the game but he does frustrate me from time to time

[Invictus]

Its funny I am a pessimist about life in general but in cricket I am a complete optimist either when I am playing or watching Pakistan play.

[immubhai]

Call me biased, call me patriotic but whenever Pakistan is playing, i cant think of anything else but winning the game even though my friends think i am quite a realist kind of person but something inside me cant make me think in a negative way against the outcome of the game. Pakistanies are out there to win. Remember what Vital signs sang " HUM TO HAIN PAKISTANI HUM TO JEETAIN GAI"

[pakistani pride]

eternal optimist and will always be one ! ! !

[kas]

its interesting to do a poll b4 and after a series. b4 a series everyone will be optimistic. but im sure if pak lose 3-0 in series and we do a poll a few days after ppl will be pessimistic about the future. its just the way pakistani minds work

[Jimmy two-times]

Enternal optimist!!

[Hussain]

100% optimist

i dont want to see the worst side of the situation ....as thts wht a fan is ...who just refuses to give up hoping for his side's chances and always hopes /prays to God for a miracle

and my belief is tht if u have to ask Allah for a favour u should asked for all of it as Allah is capable of doing anything frm any situation

[Rob H]

Depends on opposition and form

[GamBiTT]

Example of optimism:

So now that we have had one thread named 'the reason england will win series', I figured we need a bit of optimism towards the apparent problems and conflicts that Pakistan Cricket team faces ahead of this important test series against England. A) We have been heads over heals discussing what our bowling lineup was, is, should be, will be, could have been, should have been .. so and so forth. Lets go back to the new beginning in Pakistan Cricket -- Woolmer's arrival as the coach of Pakistan cricket. FACT: We have not had a single series where even a majority of our bowlers have been fit. So now that we do have majority of our top bowlers available, it is expected to be up in the air who is going to constitute our bowling lineup in the test series. Infact, I believe its essential to make all the bowlers returning to fitness unsure about their place in the Pakistan side so they work hardest and smartest to be at their best fitness levels. B) Our middle order (3,4, and 5) is probably the most settled middle order in world cricket right now and all of them are fit and raring to go. Even the English side had questions between pieterson and thorpe before the Ashes. .. and certainly questions remain about Bell's ability. C) I think it is always healthy to have competition for the #6 position in a test team. Generally that is the only position available for youngsters to break in the national team. With the apparent competition we have for #6 position -- it shows that we have quite a few aspiring youngsters capable of breaking in the national squad. This bodes well for eventual replacement of Inzi when he does decide to call it quits. D) OPENING -- about which everyone and their mother is a critic. Yes we have had a problem -- but the problem exists primarily due to existing reputations of players when the new system came into place. I believe we will certainly see a turnaround to this problem in this coming year as players improve their mental aptitude and attitude towards the opening conundrum having worked with the coaching support staff for over a year. E) FITNESS -- if anyone thinks we have not improved our fitness and fielding quality over the past year .. they need a reality check. We have improved a lot and will continue to do so. I believe this long rest and training regime during it is going to show the most fruit in the fielding and fitness improvement. At the end of the day we look at the glass full or glass empty. I think we are going to give England a real fight. YES Flintoff and Harmison look very impressive bowlers -- lets see if the English are even ready for a bit of bite from our bowlers too. In my opinion Aussies could not put sustained pressure on the English during the Ashes. I think our players can show more focus than them. It is our home!!! Our batsmen can show more grit than them. Our spinners can really be quite handy against them. To the ENGLISH cricket team: BRING IT ON!!!!!!!

[Saj]

This thread asks an interesting question, however whilst erring on the side of optimism, I would say calling myself a realist would be more accurate.

I think optimists sometimes see things through green tinted shades, pessimists try their utmost to find faults in anything and everything about Pak cricket, whereas a realist appreciates that at the moment we do not have the quality in our team to match the best.

[MCMLXXXII]

I am the biggest Optimist you will ever find and at the same time I am the biggest Realist you will ever find. There are two very contrasting sides to me. I am glad I have them both, it keeps me in check.
And I hate all those pessimists out there. Its such a negative attitude.

[Nauman]

I only critcize because I mean well for Pakistan, when you critcize them they work to improve themself.