Time for Moyo to retire.

[Schickelgruber]

He is 36, can't run, can't field and cannot bat anymore. He should just retire with a bit of pride he still possesses.

[MAJID-SHAH]

No it isn`t.

[Down2Earth]

he's already been past the retirement stage, and look, he's still in the team

[aamir]

Yes he should retire because of a pathetic umpiring decision.

[Afridirocks]

he should be in test team

in odi and t20 his place should be under scrutiny

[Schickelgruber]

We need to move on now. We need people who can field and bat at the same time. He is half a package which is not even effective anymore.

[Dr Khan]

He should retire and replaced by Umar Amin (sarcastic)

[saeedhk]

he is a class.....man .....he can bat certainly...

[*sallu*]

Shouldn't be playing LOI, above all, on the odd occassion that he will get past 40, his net contribution will be only about 20-25 runs because of his fielding

[Irfan Em]

he is class, but not as good as before. he always starts but does not have the ability anymore to make scores.

[UmarAkmals-fan]

time for u to stop making stupid threads

[cricmylife]

Really man! So then after the last game you should have said, 'he must stay in the team.' Can't base your decision on one game or one factor. He may retire once we find someone who can replace him, otherwise I think he's doing the job!

[toxic_faisal]

Agree totally.... He is not fit to play anymore...

Shd stay at home.. with some pride...

[Extreme Pace]

While he is definitely not what he used to be, we just don't have any good replacements. He is still decent and does score at a good rate, should stay till the 2010 WC and then retire from ODIS.

[Down2Earth]

well it's players like him which will cost us the world cup then. In 2010, fielding is more important than batting and yousuf still thinks he's in the 50's

[Amjid Javed]

Originally Posted by Schickelgruber He is 36, can't run, can't field and cannot bat anymore. He should just retire with a bit of pride he still possesses.

Time of the Month?

[Extreme Pace]

fielding is more important than batting

That's just not true, abhi haal dekh lo apna batting wicket par runs nahi ho rahay.

Pakistan should also think about using "tactics" to hide Yousuf in the field like not sending him to field when we are fielding second and frequent 4-5 over trips to the dressing room when we are fielding first

[cricmylife]

[QUOTE=Amjid Javed;2960006]Time of the Month? [/QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Extreme Pace That's just not true, abhi haal dekh lo apna batting wicket par runs nahi ho rahay. Pakistan should also think about using "tactics" to hide Yousuf in the field like not sending him to field when we are fielding second and frequent 4-5 over trips to the dressing room when we are fielding first

+1

[Momo]

Originally Posted by Amjid Javed Time of the Month?

If you are talking about Moyo, I think it's menopause.

[Waseem]

With our batting lineup, we can afford to have another Yousuf in the team.

He might not be the same batsman but he means a lot to Pakistani batting lineup.

[saeed-sohail]

Originally Posted by Momo If you are talking about Moyo, I think it's menopause.

Abhi toh main jawaan hoon.

[TigerJat]

We need him in the lineup until the middle order has settled down.

Probably another year or so.

Yes his skills are not what they used to be, but he is still needed in the side

[imshally81]

i think moyo have 2,3 yearz cricket still remaining

[seether1]

one bad day and we wana kick him out of the team... sigh

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by imshally81 i think moyo have 2,3 yearz cricket still remaining

LOL
hes 36, and that too officialy.

You mean to say hes going to play till 39?

He has 6 months, give or take

[Momo]

Originally Posted by imshally81 i think moyo have 2,3 yearz cricket still remaining

2, 3 years of first class/club Cricket.

[akafen]

yousuf shud retire, what abt afridi have u seen him run?what abt ajmal and his fielding? how bout akhtar? some serious idiots on this forum

[Schickelgruber]

You guys are acting as if I am a huge Moyo fan. I have always been against his inclusion after his "fake retirement" dilemma.
We were bad without him and we are atrocious with him simply because there are many other batsmen better than him (currently) who can do a better job. He is basically dead weight and I am sick of seeing him in the field.

Rant-off*

[Dare2Dream]

Originally Posted by akafen yousuf shud retire, what abt afridi have u seen him run?what abt ajmal and his fielding? how bout akhtar? some serious idiots on this forum

Yeah, this is one of those typical brainless threads from fairweather fans. A 46 followed by a dimwitted umpiring decision and in comes a moronic retirement thread.

[Sultan Yusuf]

Originally Posted by Schickelgruber You guys are acting as if I am a huge Moyo fan. I have always been against his inclusion after his "fake retirement" dilemma. We were bad without him and we are atrocious with him simply because there are many other batsmen better than him (currently) who can do a better job. He is basically dead weight and I am sick of seeing him in the field. Rant-off*

Errr who?

[WithLoveFromCanada]

no it isn't.

[uzy99]

Originally Posted by Schickelgruber He is 36, can't run, can't field and cannot bat anymore. He should just retire with a bit of pride he still possesses.

Not yet my friend. After the world cup.

[Looney]

he is still the most consistent batsman we have right now . I mean he consistenly fails

[Momo]

Originally Posted by looney he is still the most consistent batsman we have right now . I mean he consistenly fails :p

[Extreme Pace]

Originally Posted by Looney he is still the most consistent batsman we have right now . I mean he consistenly fails

[Schickelgruber]

Originally Posted by Sultan Yusuf Errr who?

Well there are bound to be good players out there in Pakistan but are being held back by corruption in the system.

[mrk]

Originally Posted by Schickelgruber He is 36, can't run, can't field and cannot bat anymore. He should just retire with a bit of pride he still possesses.

Pakistanies....... never can make our mind..... If he make 100 next match every one will call for to get Inzi back too

[kuptaan]

come on give the guy some respect. We still have a batting lineups which usually include the likes of Farhat, Hafeez, Amin, Malik etc. Its only a poor series by his OWN high standards if we had Amin today a score of 16 would look like a century. He probably is past his best but at the moment there is no viable replacement even in ODI let alone tests.

[the SHA]

Face it. Without Inzi batting with him Mo Yo is an average player at best. He cannot force the pace himself, cannot anchor an innings.

[murphyslaw79]

Originally Posted by Schickelgruber You guys are acting as if I am a huge Moyo fan. I have always been against his inclusion after his "fake retirement" dilemma. We were bad without him and we are atrocious with him simply because there are many other batsmen better than him (currently) who can do a better job. He is basically dead weight and I am sick of seeing him in the field. Rant-off*

Who exactly are these batsmen? Your comment further down, shows that you do not know much about domestic cricket in Pakistan.

He is still the best batsman we have, as none of the new guys have really stood up, which is evident from our low scores against england in the 1st 2 test.

[thekhan]

He is the only guy with a batting backbone.

Who would replace him overhyped Umar Akamal?

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Originally Posted by kuptaan come on give the guy some respect. We still have a batting lineups which usually include the likes of Farhat, Hafeez, Amin, Malik etc. Its only a poor series by his OWN high standards if we had Amin today a score of 16 would look like a century. He probably is past his best but at the moment there is no viable replacement even in ODI let alone tests.

Exactly. Yousuf is a liabilty in the field but considering our top six batsmen include Hafeez, Fawad and Afridi we can't afford to jettison one of the few proper batsmen. BTW that's not a criticism of Alam, just he isn't a match winner so we need some batsmen who can make winning knocks.

[Pakprideuk]

Lol i told u this happens with every player who doesn't perform well for a few odi's. its just how thick us pakistanis are lol, two failures and you all start crying and when he comes back and performs you all call him a great, idk *** is wrong with u ppl seriously!

[Inzamamfan]

No he is the man of the team. Pakistan can't play ODI/test without him

[proud_pakistani]

I think he shud def retire after the World Cup...regardless of whether we have some1 or not...only until we try players we will know how gud they are...Asad Shafiq has been very impressive so far and I see him becoming a mainstay in the line up...Yousuf missed a couple of straight deliveries on his pads which in his prime he would have dispatched for four...

[Gollum]

Yousuf does look a bit rusty. We could try Azhar Ali in the next game.

[Desire]

and i said earlier he is gonna make 20s and 30s to stay in the team when its expected from him to make 100s coz he is specialist and most expereienced.

[Atif]

Moyo is class, remember hes has not played much cricket in the last year.

[Inzamamfan]

Originally Posted by gollumbird Yousuf does look a bit rusty. We could try Azhar Ali in the next game.

Please he plays like hafeez

[dirk diggler]

you dont just discard playesr of his quality, going thru a lean patch, but is still vital in the middle order to give stability to the younger batsman around him

[Waq]

Not much for him as a person but love him a bastman.

He was aggressive in the T20's and unlucky. He like other players needs that one good knoeck to set him straight.

KP has been poor for over a year yet his head was only called for during the last few tests!!

Lets finish this tour off and reassess our strategies once all the scandal has been dealt with.

[*sallu*]

Poor series with the bat

I doubt he will be given a go in the RSA ODIs

[Momo]

Time for him to retire was two years ago.

[Desire]

Selectors who selected him for t20 and odis should retire. Lets be honest guys. At 36 , it needs a tendulkar to stay in the team. even if he makes nice 30s and 40s he will still be under pressure as 100s are required from him to stay in the team at this age.

[Gollum]

Time for Yousuf to re-join the tablighi jamaat

[Schickelgruber]

Well i was right then.

[akafen]

wouldn't drop him. needs another senior player to take the pressure off him. In my opinion, Pakistan need to find a way to fit in both YK and Misbah ul Haq in this team.

[Gollum]

Originally Posted by akafen wouldn't drop him. needs another senior player to take the pressure off him. In my opinion, Pakistan need to find a way to fit in both YK and Misbah ul Haq in this team.

this is pakistan team not an old folks home...

[Looney]

he should say good bye to cricket . maybe he could play tests but defo not odis and t20 . sorry

[kingusama92]

He won't be going, anywhere.

Our batting order is already rubbish. A poor series from him doesn't mean we can drop him. We are just not in that kind of a situation and don't have the luxury of decent back-ups to replace him.

The lineup will get stronger if we bring Younus back. It will take some pressure off Yousuf and give him a decent partner.

[Desire]

Originally Posted by akafen wouldn't drop him. needs another senior player to take the pressure off him. In my opinion, Pakistan need to find a way to fit in both YK and Misbah ul Haq in this team.

It was expected from him to take pressure off young guys.

[Cover Drive]

It really wasnt really Yousuf who wanted to come back. These same people who want him to retire today were the ones who were crying the most and uttering Yousufs name in our poor show in test matches. And now these same people want him retired?

I would suggest everyone to stick to one decision first and then say anything else

[Dare2Dream]

Originally Posted by Pakprideuk Lol i told u this happens with every player who doesn't perform well for a few odi's. its just how thick us pakistanis are lol, two failures and you all start crying and when he comes back and performs you all call him a great, idk *** is wrong with u ppl seriously!

Yeah, expect thick fans to make such threads after each match. They said the same about YK after the Aus ODIs but flipped when saw our pathetic batsmen this summer. Yousef and YK are the two class batsmen in the team and I'd take then any day over Fawad, Malik, Akmal, Farhat, Hafeez, Afridi and company.

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by Cover Drive It really wasnt really Yousuf who wanted to come back. These same people who want him to retire today were the ones who were crying the most and uttering Yousufs name in our poor show in test matches. And now these same people want him retired? I would suggest everyone to stick to one decision first and then say anything else

Check my posts

I have wanted him retired from day 1 of this tour

Hes finished, more or less!!!

[Ali Raja]

he is a shadow of his former self. should retire now.

[Cover Drive]

Originally Posted by *sallu* Check my posts I have wanted him retired from day 1 of this tour Hes finished, more or less!!!

ANd you have seen Pakistanès batting collapse from day 1 of this tur when he wasnt playingÉ

[jeetu]

Originally Posted by Schickelgruber He is 36, can't run, can't field and cannot bat anymore. He should just retire with a bit of pride he still possesses.

He didn't bat too badly in test. He should be played for tests only. India does similar with Laxman and Dravid.

[chui_kadoo]

what the hell has yousuf done all summer. Absolute jack.What a waste.He seriously needs to retire asap. hes becoming a big joke

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by Cover Drive ANd you have seen Pakistanès batting collapse from day 1 of this tur when he wasnt playingÉ

has he really made a difference?

At 36 years of age and not performing, might as well play someone else.

[F.Z]

He should retire.

[Dare2Dream]

Originally Posted by chui_kadoo what the hell has yousuf done all summer. Absolute jack.What a waste.He seriously needs to retire asap. hes becoming a big joke

Yousef didn't play Asia cup or the Aus matches, he only flew in mid way through the Eng tour, that too after ZERO cricket for 6 months. In our 3rd test win, he made a major contribution batting with youngsters in both innings. In the 1st T20 he was our best batsman, in the 2nd ODI, he made a good contribution. He took two absolute gems in the field in the T20 and the 4th ODI.

Let us not act like juviniles here, based on the situation, Yousef did quite well. He wasn't up to his own high standard, but you can not realistically expect miracles from someone kept out of the team for 6 months and in the middle of the current turbulance. Give him some time to regain form and he will prove his worth both in Tests and ODIs.

[Kamranaazam]

let him pass 10,000 ODI runs

[Dare2Dream]

Originally Posted by *sallu* has he really made a difference? At 36 years of age and not performing, might as well play someone else.

We are and have been trying Umar Amin, Hafeez, Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq, Fawad Alam, Farhat, Umar Akmal as well as mediocres like Malik, Afridi and Razzaq. But there is no need to sit Yousef or YK out to try youngsters, there is plenty of space for 2 class players to play along side youngsters. Yousef and YK are the last players you should doubt or count out based on a few ordinary performances, these guys should be in the team unless and until someone better is knocking on the door as is the case in India (not Pakistan).

[FastBowler]

After the World Cup.

[FastBowler]

Originally Posted by Dare2Dream Yousef didn't play Asia cup or the Aus matches, he only flew in mid way through the Eng tour, that too after ZERO cricket for 6 months. In our 3rd test win, he made a major contribution batting with youngsters in both innings. In the 1st T20 he was out best batsman, in the 2nd ODI, he made a good contribution. He took two absolute gems in the field in the T20 and the 4th ODI. Let us not act like juviniles here, based on the situation, Yousef did quite well. He wasn't up to his own high standard, but you can not realistically expect miracles from someone kept out of the team for 6 months and in the middle of the current turbulance. Give him some time to regain form and he will prove his worth both in Tests and ODIs.

Very good post

[PerfectionPersonified]

I am a big fan of Moyo but time has come for him to retire (Completely) .He hasn't performed well and wont perform in future either .He is just too old now.

His time is finished and now if he sticks to cricket it will be more and more embarrassment for him in the year to come.

[the SHA]

Hes finished as a serious force

[Sledger]

The facts are, he's done nothing since his return from the ICL:

Tests:
Mat  	Runs  	HS  	Bat Av  	100  	
11  	760  	112  	34.54  	         1

ODIs:
Mat  	Runs  	HS  	Bat Av  	100  
18  	475  	87  	26.38  	         0  	

T20Is:
Mat  	Runs  	HS  	Bat Av  	100  
2  	30  	26  	15.00  	         0

[Geordie Ahmed]

Bring YK back and let them play til the World Cup - then Yousuf can retire

[Black Zero]

Q1: How many times you guys want him to retire...?
Q2: if he does, how many of you, would trust him?