Congrats England!!

[Riff]

Deserved winners of this ODI series imo

I must say that after Ijaz Butt's baseless allegations against the England team, it was clear that England were affected by this in the 4th ODI, which allowed Pakistan to level the series. Personally, I think England would have won the ODI series quite comfortably, had it not been for Ijaz Butt running his mouth. Good to see justice prevailing in the end.

[cricmylife]

Deserved or not. Congrats

[z2_daredevil]

man of the series BILLY DOCTOV !!!
well played billy !!!

[Inswinger]

Great job Ian Gould.

[azfar wali]

man of the series should be Billy and MOM should go to Gould

[Khabri420]

Ian Gould deserves a special mention too

[Express Pace]

Well done Doctrove, Gould.

[Khabri420]

Originally Posted by z2_daredevil man of the series BILLY DOCTOV !!! well played billy !!!

Not bad, not bad. England now have a West Indian playing for them as well. Yaaaa maaan!

[PB]

Oh please, no they wouldn't have won the 4th Odi,

If the allegations didn't start from the beginning we would still have Aamer, and we would have won 5-0 the.

[PakWC'11Champs]

Get the F outta here with that.

England and the guys around the team who are English have been biased and exposed as cheats. It's not cheating when umpires of British origin blindly ignore Pakistani calls for LBW and give England their appeals that are clearly not LBW's.

They will get their ***** handed to them in Australia and I will be happy to see that go down.

[*sallu*]

I would normally congratulate all the winners, but not this side

They're a bunch of sorry sore losers who were heavily supported by the umpires throughout the series.

[KingKhanWC]

Congrats England.

They won by a huge margin to take the series. Morgan and Swann played really well. Pakistan controlled 60% of the game and then we fell apart.

[Riff]

Originally Posted by Pakiboii Oh please, no they wouldn't have won the 4th Odi, If the allegations didn't start from the beginning we would still have Aamer, and we would have won 5-0 the.

but there is some evidence against Amir though, enough evidence for him to be suspended until ICC have carried out their investigation.

Ijaz Butt on the other hand was just speaking nonsense

[Riff]

Originally Posted by *sallu* I would normally congratulate all the winners, but not this side They're a bunch of sorry sore losers who were heavily supported by the umpires throughout the series.

losers who take the natwest trophy?

[PB]

Originally Posted by Riff but there is some evidence against Amir though, enough evidence for him to be suspended until ICC have carried out their investigation. Ijaz Butt on the other hand was just speaking nonsense

Mehhh, your right,
Yea congrats, good luck in ashes..

[Riff]

Originally Posted by Pakiboii Mehhh, your right, Yea congrats, good luck in ashes..

Im a Pakistani fan, so wont be following the Ashes with great interest

[dirk diggler]

afridi congratulated morgan and swann specifically and the eng team as a whole...and what did we get back from strauss...eff all

[Amir]

Sorry, can't do it. Still miffed about the crap we had to deal with during this series and the umpires as well.

[Oxy]

I dont see much congratulating going on...

[Riff]

Originally Posted by Amir Sorry, can't do it. Still miffed about the crap we had to deal with during this series and the umpires as well.

The media and the umpires have nothing to do with the England team bro

[Zeta B]

Congratulations South Africa.

[Riff]

Originally Posted by Oxy I dont see much congratulating going on...

Is that including yourself?

[Riff]

Originally Posted by Zeta B Congratulations South Africa.

[jattafridi]

congrats umpires

[dirk diggler]

good player that IRISH lad

[oracleg]

Yeah well done England. They're a good ODI side now, did well against Australia too. Shame the series had to be decided by some atrocious umpiring and mud slinging from the local media.

[Maula Jutt]

Boy do I envy them their spinner!

Congrats on a great win!

[SAM'S]

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[shahrukh619]

So THE SUN amd Billy Doctrove helped england with the series.

[Legend Killer]

Great work by Billy and Gould, surely they were vital for England's sucess in this series

[Oxy]

Originally Posted by Riff Is that including yourself?

No comment

[-007-]

Originally Posted by Pakiboii Oh please, no they wouldn't have won the 4th Odi, If the allegations didn't start from the beginning we would still have Aamer, and we would have won 5-0 the.

If it wasn't for allegations players were willing to loose 2 matches any way .

So the best possible result would have been 3-2 in favour of Pakistan

[WhiteDudeFromTrinidad]

England should be congratulated for making the final game of the series a day/night event and for winning the toss imo

[rsk]

WOULD still support england against Aussies

[PB]

Originally Posted by -007- If it wasn't for allegations players were willing to loose 2 matches any way . So the best possible result would have been 3-2 in favour of Pakistan

They weren't proven allegations.

[Levity]

Haha, I've just realised this guy is not a Pakistani fan and to consider him as such is to buy into his deceit. The only reason England won was because they had two extra players in their team, I'll leave it your meek intellect Riff, to fathom which two they were.

[Levity]

And another thing, he mentions one isolated incident of allegations against England being the root cause of their defeat, but fails to mention the entire series' allegations which Pakistan had to endure. Joker.

[chui_kadoo]

Congrats to Englands 12th Man BILLY DOCTROVE. He should of been man of the series. Without his efforts England would most definitly have lost the series

[Express Pace]

Gould, Kettleborough played their parts, was a team effort.

[pinger]

There are some really classy replies in this thread, calling the English cheats and predictably; for about the hundreth consecutive series, blaming the umpires.

Well done England.

[Levity]

Originally Posted by pinger There are some really classy replies in this thread, calling the English cheats and predictably; for about the hundreth consecutive series, blaming the umpires. Well done England.

Do you have anything better to say to back up your arguments, or is generalising your pastime?

[pinger]

Originally Posted by Levity Do you have anything better to say to back up your arguments, or is generalising your pastime?

Do you want me to point out the posts in this very thread, that back up my argument?

There has been alot of talk about who is the gracious winner or loser this series, and this thread reeks of a fairly large sook.

[adzzy786]

Originally Posted by Riff Im a Pakistani fan, so wont be following the Ashes with great interest

Errr No your not. You lieing little ----! So england lost the fourth ODI, because of the allegations? So what about the allegations that have been haunting pakistan since the test series. In that case since our allegations were alot more severe and were brought to the attention of every one, even non cricket fans. We should have in fact won the t20's and ODI's 7-0 because it affected us alot more. I mean WE WERE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY, Being accused for so much CR-A-P, So im sure it affected our performance alot aswell. You flipin idiot!

[Geordie Ahmed]

Congrats to England - they were the better side

[adzzy786]

Originally Posted by pinger There are some really classy replies in this thread, calling the English cheats and predictably; for about the hundreth consecutive series, blaming the umpires. Well done England.

Did you actually EVEN WATCH the matches, because if you did, you either are blind or simply a retard. Even on Wikipedia, Search Billy, It clearly states and I quote

'In the tour by Pakistan cricket team of England in 2010, the umpire has been alleged of favouring England for giving various wrong decisions during the ODI series. In the second ODI of that series at Headingley, the umpire turned down 3 LBW appeals by the Pakistani bowlers which were obviously going to hit the stumps including the one of Andrew Strauss, who then went on to hit a 100 in that game. However, the most controversial being in the 3rd ODI at Oval, where Doctrove referred a run out to the 3rd umpire almost after 35 seconds after the ball had been called dead when the English fielders made almost half hearted appeal against Shahid Afridi. In the same match, an appeal of stumping of Luke Wright by the Pakistani fielders wasn't referred to the 3rd umpire by Doctrove[2]. That forced Afridi to have a long chat with Doctrove regarding that stumping. This raised even more doubts over the loyalty of the umpire.'


Thats not even mentioning the flipin decisions that went against us today!

[Schickelgruber]

I hope the Aussies beat England to a living pulp.

That is all.

[Levity]

Originally Posted by pinger Do you want me to point out the posts in this very thread, that back up my argument? There has been alot of talk about who is the gracious winner or loser this series, and this thread reeks of a fairly large sook.

We will gracefully accept defeat on fair terms.

You must be blind or ignorant to not have seen the decisions go against Pakistan. So much so that it prompted Nasser to highlight this very point in commentary, I guess he was one in the end who couldn't bear the shame of maintaining his silence about it any longer, as did the other guilty commies.

There were mini-decisions that went unquestioned by Pak fans which could have easily prompted criticism, Broad's 'high' wides being one of them. You should accept the non-mention of those minor, but game-changing issues as our act of benignity.

Anything else that has been said by us is well within our right to say so, so go take your moral high horse and give it to the french, let it be of benefit to somebody at least.

[pinger]

Originally Posted by adzzy786 Did you actually EVEN WATCH the matches, because if you did, you either are blind or simply a retard. Even on Wikipedia, Search Billy, It clearly states and I quote 'In the tour by Pakistan cricket team of England in 2010, the umpire has been alleged of favouring England for giving various wrong decisions during the ODI series. In the second ODI of that series at Headingley, the umpire turned down 3 LBW appeals by the Pakistani bowlers which were obviously going to hit the stumps including the one of Andrew Strauss, who then went on to hit a 100 in that game. However, the most controversial being in the 3rd ODI at Oval, where Doctrove referred a run out to the 3rd umpire almost after 35 seconds after the ball had been called dead when the English fielders made almost half hearted appeal against Shahid Afridi. In the same match, an appeal of stumping of Luke Wright by the Pakistani fielders wasn't referred to the 3rd umpire by Doctrove[2]. That forced Afridi to have a long chat with Doctrove regarding that stumping. This raised even more doubts over the loyalty of the umpire.' Thats not even mentioning the flipin decisions that went against us today!

Ahh, it is on Wikipedia, it must be true!!!

PS, you might like to tidy up some of your grammar in your Wikipedia piece.

'In the tour by Pakistan cricket team of England in 2010, the umpire has been alleged of favouring England for giving various wrong decisions during the ODI series

I would change to "'In the 2010 tour of England by the Pakistan cricket team, it has been alleged that Doctrove favoured England by giving various incorrect decisions during the ODI series".

However, the most controversial being in the 3rd ODI at Oval, where Doctrove referred a run out to the 3rd umpire almost after 35 seconds after the ball had been called dead when the English fielders made almost half hearted appeal against Shahid Afridi

Mixing your tenses here, making it a bit disjointed. Again, change to "The most controversial instance occured in the 3rd ODI at the Oval, where Doctrove referred a run out to the 3rd umpire approximately 35 seconds after the ball had been called dead and following a half hearted appeal against Shahid Afridi by the English fielders."

This raised even more doubts over the loyalty of the umpire.'

Ha, I'm not even going to touch that. It's fact in some peoples minds but certainly does not make it true.

[Pakistani93]

Originally Posted by Riff Im a Pakistani fan, so wont be following the Ashes with great interest

When the hell are you going to stop pretending to be a Pakistani? everyone in this forum knows that you are either English, Indian or a retard

[ali_ed2006]

Originally Posted by Amir Sorry, can't do it. Still miffed about the crap we had to deal with during this series and the umpires as well.

But we have brought this crap on ourselves. It was Butt's fault to accuse them of cheating w/o any evidence, and it ticked them off and rightly so....if we get accused of match fixing like that then our reaction would probably be the same....or at least it should be the same.

And I'm not gonna argue about umpiring, it was horrible throughout the series and we got tons of bad decisions..

[Black Zero]

I'll say Well done Pakistan...as wey were handicapped by the absence of :aamir and presence of

[Umpiredickybird]

Well done England.

Get ready to be hammered down under!

[sporticus]

This is the sort of thread that makes this forum special .

Everyone who plays for the opposition is a cheat

Umpires cheat ( nothing mentioned when decisions go Pak way )

Decisions never go Pak way ( they do but people are so blinded by conspiracy )

Conpiracy .(Pakistan never do anything wrong its always everyone else )

Newspapers fancy providing real evidence .Shut them down .

Racism .Its because we are brown and white people rule cricket (even though its India through the support of Pakistan )

Religion .Everyone hates Muslims ( In reality very few care about religion and its just the victim mentality that prevails .

Sorry to the sensible people

[Zamee]

Originally Posted by Levity And another thing, he mentions one isolated incident of allegations against England being the root cause of their defeat, but fails to mention the entire series' allegations which Pakistan had to endure. Joker.

+1

lol they accuse us for fixing even when we win, funny isnt it ?? =D

[Amjid Javed]

Congrats England on winning a closely fought ODI series.

[liaqat]

ian gould and billy dotrov are the maain caractors who won england the series,,, the blind bats

[MC]

Replies in this thread clearly showing who the real sore losers are. Isn't it funny?

It was an excellent game of cricket with every wicket and boundary making a huge difference, you don't get many games like that on regular basis (yes sadly bad umpiring is part of the package but that doesn't excuse everything and every player). So show some appreciation for some breath taking cricketing performances regardless of the race, religion, nationality of the cricketer. Give it a go for sake of cricket, I know its asking for a lot.

[James]

England had a top summer. beat Pak and BD in tests, ODIs and T20s, and beat Australia in ODIs. and I feel it was all deserved, though the ODIs against Pak were close, could have gone either way and I would not have had any complaints had we lost. Australia away and a summer hosting SL and India is huge, massive, enormous. bigger challenges lie ahead and I fear we may not yet be up to them.

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Originally Posted by Riff Deserved winners of this ODI series imo I must say that after Ijaz Butt's baseless allegations against the England team, it was clear that England were affected by this in the 4th ODI, which allowed Pakistan to level the series. Personally, I think England would have won the ODI series quite comfortably, had it not been for Ijaz Butt running his mouth. Good to see justice prevailing in the end.

Congrats

England are at their peak.
Pak are certain players light and in transition batting wise.

[James]

I'd like to think they are not peaking yet. I think this team will be at its best in a couple of years time.

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Originally Posted by Whippy I'd like to think they are not peaking yet. I think this team will be at its best in a couple of years time.

Compared to all of the ODI sides since 92 - its definitely a peak....

[James]

haha yes it is. but I think they can improve. their bowling in the first ten overs tends to be too loose, and they need to be posting 270+ scores more regularly. but yes things are looking good.

[Levity]

Originally Posted by sporticus This is the sort of thread that makes this forum special . Everyone who plays for the opposition is a cheat Umpires cheat ( nothing mentioned when decisions go Pak way ) Decisions never go Pak way ( they do but people are so blinded by conspiracy ) Conpiracy .(Pakistan never do anything wrong its always everyone else ) Newspapers fancy providing real evidence .Shut them down . Racism .Its because we are brown and white people rule cricket (even though its India through the support of Pakistan ) Religion .Everyone hates Muslims ( In reality very few care about religion and its just the victim mentality that prevails . Sorry to the sensible people

By God, you don't half open yourself up to abuse. Ridiculous exaggeration and generalisation. Go watch Lazytown, you might learn something.