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Old 28th September 2010, 23:57
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When Sachin retires...

does the retirement of sachin weakens the indian batting...what impact would it have on indian cricket?
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Old 28th September 2010, 23:59
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does the retirement of sachin weakens the indian batting...what impact would it have on indian cricket?

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The impact is that it leaves a big hole which they will struggle to fill.

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Taking Tendulkar out of any batting line up will have a great affect.
Indian [esp. test] team will struggle for a while after the next WC when the likes of Dravid, Tendulkar are lost. Two great players who will leave a big hole in the batting.
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Old 29th September 2010, 00:06
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When Sachin retires... I may not be alive by then I'd expect all those vying for his spot to have retired as well.

As it seems there is no reason for him to retire anytime soon.
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Old 29th September 2010, 00:44
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After Sachin retirement, India might start doing well in big tournament finals.
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Old 29th September 2010, 01:36
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I honestly think India will cope without him. They've got good batting in their ranks. Those two openers for example in the last practice match averaged over 60 domestically. Then you've got Raina and then vijay.

Then you've got the established batsmen who have many years left in them, i.e ghambir, Sehwag (even dhoni isn't that bad). Even when Tendulkar, Dravid, and Laxman retire, there's enough batting strength to keep India afloat. Perhaps won't be as strong but they'll manage.

What's more worrying is the loss of Zaheer khan and harbajan. India don't have anyone to replace these guys at all.
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Old 29th September 2010, 01:49
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Then you've got the established batsmen who have many years left in them, i.e ghambir, Sehwag (even dhoni isn't that bad). Even when Tendulkar, Dravid, and Laxman retire, there's enough batting strength to keep India afloat. Perhaps won't be as strong but they'll manage.
Without Laxman & Dravid, India were hammered at home by SA in 1st test of series earlier this year. What happened to the rich batting resources then??
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Old 29th September 2010, 01:55
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It will be the exodus of Dravid/Sachin that will have the biggest impact on their lineup. Big shoes to fill and nobody seems to be putting their hands up really.
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Old 29th September 2010, 02:00
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no dravid and tendulkar will have a great effect on the team.
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Old 29th September 2010, 02:05
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After Sachin retirement, India might start doing well in big tournament finals.
Check his performances and man of the match awards in finals and big matches. You will not call a white man black, just because he has a mole. Only Richards has performed as well in finals as sachin has.
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Old 29th September 2010, 02:08
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Laxman might not have a 50 plus average, but his value to the team is too huge. To me currently laxman's retirement is a bigger blow than Dravid's. Dravid and Ponting both are having a similar decline in their batting. While ponting is still indispensable for australia, Dravid is not.
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Old 29th September 2010, 02:10
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Without Laxman & Dravid, India were hammered at home by SA in 1st test of series earlier this year. What happened to the rich batting resources then??
They will get better in a few years if they play frequently. Give them a little more time. Playing in a side full of experienced batsmen will be good for them, and expect that average to rise very quickly.

Besides, Raina has already established himself as a strong ODI player, and has already got his 1st century (he's only played 2 tests). I think he'll be one of the guys who'll be the future of Indian batting, so only got two other places to fill really. And dravid's been out of form for a long time now anyway.
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Old 29th September 2010, 02:11
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its like pak without inzi, no one was good enough to replace him. But for us our stronger suit was always bowling, and for india it is their batting, so will be a massive loss.
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Check his performances and man of the match awards in finals and big matches. You will not call a white man black, just because he has a mole. Only Richards has performed as well in finals as sachin has.
World Cup final 2003. Out in the first over.

T20 world cup final - did he play?

Any other meaningful finals he has played in?

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Old 29th September 2010, 02:12
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When Sachin retires.. Rahul and Laxman will too!
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Old 29th September 2010, 02:18
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When Sachin retires... it will be a sad day in the world of cricket.
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His retirement would hurt any team in the world.

The man is such a genius with the bat. Consistently good and scores runs at will.

Although, how much it hurts India will be dependent on his replacement.
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When Sachin retires... it will be a sad day in the world of cricket.
Yeah definitely.....Sachin still the reason for many to follow the cricket ..

SRT , Dravid & Laxman ...definitely there will be big shoes to fill......and as @ads101 pointed out we have good batsman but not proven yet and YES they never get enough chance but still big shoes to fill & we(Indian) can only hope some of them will come good for us....we have seen Aussies such a professional team they have taken a long time now to replace those legends & still no proper replacement u can see no ready replacement for Ricky Ponting who I think is half of the current Aussies batting lineup...

Bowlers situation will remain same ...but retirement of these three players will be big blow for us ...and I am hoping they leave one year after another instead of simultaneously on same year....
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His retirement would hurt any team in the world.

The man is such a genius with the bat. Consistently good and scores runs at will.

Although, how much it hurts India will be dependent on his replacement.
Usama bhai simple answer BAHOT... SRT is a once in a lifetime player..... proper run machine .....even he can make runs when he is not in good form ...gonna hurt us a lot....
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Then Indian batting will be worse than Bermuda. They will be filled with great IPL 2020 young full-time FTBs and trundlers once this great run machine hangs his boots.
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haha ..itni bhi kharab nahi hogi yaar ...
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when Sachin retires the likes of great ravinder jadeja will take his place ..it wont effect the indian team much
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When Sachin retires (Dravid and Laxman would be retired by then), the indian middle order will be a big hole.

I would love to be proved wrong but at this moment thats how it is looking. I can see few good batsman but "woh temperament kahan se layen ?"
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Indian batting line up will suffer a lot in both form of the game...
You can already see when he misses some ODI's, India do collapse more often than with sachin..
But i think it's too early to talk about his retirment, there are still Raina, Kholi and Rohit to retire before him!
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when sachin retires, it would be a sad day. many of us have grown up with sachin playing international cricket. his moving on would be a reminder of how time always moves on.
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World Cup final 2003. Out in the first over.

T20 world cup final - did he play?

Any other meaningful finals he has played in?

*cue mention of the CB series and some Natwest Trophy in 2000*
what do you mean by meaningful finals?

Benson and hedges world series, is it meaningful or not?
wills worlds series
pepsi sharjah cup against south africa
Titan cup (Aus-India-SA) against south africa
or the twin centuries in sharjah cup
VB series in australia
the tri series in sri lanka..

I can keep saying about his performances in multi nationals series.

he failed in one final and that too while trying to accelerate as the target is 360.. and you say that he fails in finals. An average of 56 and at a strike rate 87 in multi national tournament finals.. with 6 centuries and 10 50s, barring richards name a better performer in finals than sachin..

About playing in world T20, Did Ponting play the T20 world cup? Sachin retired from international T20s and how do you expect him to play?

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World Cup final 2003. Out in the first over.

T20 world cup final - did he play?

Any other meaningful finals he has played in?

*cue mention of the CB series and some Natwest Trophy in 2000*
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indian batting after tendulkar retires - still far better than what any other cricketing nation will get close to producing in the next 10-15 years

the batting line up in tests will look something like

sehwag (abhinav mukund/dhawan to replace sehwag after 5 years)
gambhir
raina
pujara
any 2 out of muruli vijay/dhawan/manish pandey/virat kohli/saurabh tiwary/ajinkya rahane
dhoni

i only hope that these 20/20 heroes like yuvraj singh, rohit sharma, yusuf pathan, etc stay as far away from the test team as possible. only genuine players who have a good fc record & india a record in 4 day matches should be considered

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indian batting after tendulkar retires - still far better than what any other cricketing nation will get close to producing in the next 10-15 years

the batting line up in tests will look something like

sehwag (abhinav mukund/dhawan to replace sehwag after 5 years)
gambhir
raina
pujara
any 2 out of muruli vijay/dhawan/manish pandey/virat kohli/saurabh tiwary/ajinkya rahane
dhoni
I don't think so.. only raina and pujara can be successful. because they have the right attitude and work ethic. sachin might retire in another 2 years.. and by that time sehwag will be 34 with just a couple of more years left in him.. and dhawan, mukund, pandey, tiwari or vijay don't have the class.

Rahane is a hot talent, and he is very aggressive too.. so rahane, raina, pujara are the only quality players india will have.. rest cannot succeed outside sub continent...
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does the retirement of sachin weakens the indian batting...what impact would it have on indian cricket?
I think Over the Years India have be able to cope Alot better when Sachins been missing or has been out of form and hasnt performed.

Obviously any world class player in any team would be mised.
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Will be the same as when we lost our greats, the team will keep on doing well for a while because they still think they can win. Then the wheels will fall off.

Unless India are amazingly fortunate, they will struggle. Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Harby (plus retired Ganguly and Kumble) are all time greats of India, some would make their all time best XI. The guys replacing them just will not be that good, on probability.
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he failed in one final and that too while trying to accelerate as the target is 360.. and you say that he fails in finals. An average of 56 and at a strike rate 87 in multi national tournament finals.. with 6 centuries and 10 50s, barring richards name a better performer in finals than sachin..
And if he had succeeded in that final we would never hear the end of it. It would be Sachin is gun when it really matters. But because he failed in that match you make excuses for him and throw up other, less important finals. You agree or no?
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And if he had succeeded in that final we would never hear the end of it. It would be Sachin is gun when it really matters. But because he failed in that match you make excuses for him and throw up other, less important finals. You agree or no?
It wasnt as big a failure as people make it out to be.target was 360,he had to go for it,was extremely difficult

nobody is making excuses,u r exaggerating the ONE match.fact is he still averages 55 in finals.finals r finals,nothing is less important,obviously WC is far more so,but that day its the bowlers who failed,not the batsmen
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And if he had succeeded in that final we would never hear the end of it. It would be Sachin is gun when it really matters. But because he failed in that match you make excuses for him and throw up other, less important finals. You agree or no?
No one is making excuses. every one is human and everyone will fail, he failed in one final. Well if you say that World cup is the most important tournament.. then he has the highest runs in world cups.

If you say that league matches, quater finals and semis are not important and only the finals is important. then sachin has played only one and you cannot deduce any pattern with a sample size of one.

There are opinions and there are facts.

I replied to a post which said that after sachin retires, india will start to win tournament finals, by stating that he has the best record in finals.

To that you replied that only VB series and all others scores he made in finals are not important. (Which don't have any logic).

When I pointed out the stats, you are again back to square one saying that in the world cup final he missed out.

He has the maximum number of runs, centuries, second highest average (after kirsten), and man of the match awards. in the finals that india won, his average is 100+.. There are several finals involving australia, Pak, Sri Lanka, South Africa and the west indies of 90s.

All these despite playing less number finals than ponting or steve waugh.

and if you term all the tournaments as unimportant, then fine it is your opinion.. There are facts and there are opinions.

My opinion is Sachin raises his games for big matches and against big opponents.

My opinion is supported by his extraordinary stats in finals, in world cups, against the best opponents (scored 3000 runs against Australia).. most important knocks 2003 wc knock against Pak, Sharjah twin centuries, titan cup qualifying match and the finals, VB series finals and the list is very huge..

Your opinion.. sachin fails in important matches and in important finals

Supported by one fact that sachin got out in one WC final in the first over

People who read this which know which argument has more reason. I don't want to continue with this argument.

Sachin and richards are the greatest ODI batsman, followed by anwar, De Silva, Jayasuriya, hussey, and Gilchrist. Ponting, Lara and Mark Waugh belong to the second level.
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Will be the same as when we lost our greats, the team will keep on doing well for a while because they still think they can win. Then the wheels will fall off.

Unless India are amazingly fortunate, they will struggle. Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, Harby (plus retired Ganguly and Kumble) are all time greats of India, some would make their all time best XI. The guys replacing them just will not be that good, on probability.
did u care to check the record of Ponting in the last 7-8 semi finals & finals Australia has played ? I think he averages 16 or smthing in semis & finals ever since Mcgrath has retired since the pressure to perform without good bowlers is beginning to show up. Ponting scored a great century in WC final, which is indeed a big deal but so did Damien Martyn, so did kleiswitter (50+) of eng or smthing in T20 final against Australia.
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Dravid will retire soon

Laxman will retire sometimes next year

Sachin will retire after India tours Australia in 2011

Murali Vijay
GAmbhir
RAhane
Sehwag
Pujara
Raina
Dhoni
Ojha/Ashwin/Mishra
Sreesanth
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Unadkat

Not a bad team, but just not as good as the current team.
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Dravid will retire soon

Laxman will retire sometimes next year

Sachin will retire after India tours Australia in 2011

Murali Vijay
GAmbhir
RAhane
Sehwag
Pujara
Raina
Dhoni
Ojha/Ashwin/Mishra
Sreesanth
Ishant
Unadkat

Not a bad team, but just not as good as the current team.
I don't think laxman will retire next year.. he is much younger than sachin and dravid.. and the last two years has been the most productive for him.. He along with Sachin and Sehwag is reponsible for india's number 1 ranking
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Dravid will retire soon

Laxman will retire sometimes next year

Sachin will retire after India tours Australia in 2011

Murali Vijay
GAmbhir
RAhane
Sehwag
Pujara
Raina
Dhoni
Ojha/Ashwin/Mishra
Sreesanth
Ishant
Unadkat

Not a bad team, but just not as good as the current team.
I don't think Murali vijay is that good. the selectors might choose Kohli or sharma in the mid order so If Rahane was smart he would play as an opener in his dometic team to increase his chances of getting selected. Then you have gambhir rahane opening, mid order of sehwag, pujara, raina, and either Kohli or sharma.

And then theirs also Munkund, dhiwan, and manish Pandey. And then after them theirs the 2 tiwarys. I think the selectors need to Identify quickly who can best adapt to the International game. Its amazing to me that Saha has made his debut as a specialist test batsman ahead of all these guys.
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Seems like on this thread the opinion is that the loss of Sachin and Dravid from India does not equal the loss of Warne and McGrath from Australia.
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does the retirement of sachin weakens the indian batting...what impact would it have on indian cricket?
No one compares to Sehwag in Indian team!! He will be a bigger loss when he retires.
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Old 29th September 2010, 17:10
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Agree with Eagle_Eye. Sehwag would be a bigger loss to Indian cricket in all formats of the game.
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Old 29th September 2010, 17:14
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I think he will try and play for another 2-3 years, Dravid will retire probably next year.

As long as they are spaced out, India should be OK.
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There was a time after Gavaskar retired , i thought no indian can match his achievement for next 50 years. Little over 2 decades later Sachin surpassed him and dravid as well barring in terms of 100's. he has 29 to sunny's 34.
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When Sachin Retires, The whole cricketing world shall feel his last breath down their spines, Bowlers will be able to breath a sigh of relief, and every-single bowler to have ever had the honour to bowl to the genius shall bow down to the little master and voice their appreciation by chanting chants "Cricket is a religion and sachin is a god", the whole world will feel his absence before the great man even reaches the pavilion in his final apperance in a cricket jersey, end of the day, the waves pound the sea, A police-officer stops crime and sachin tendulkar scores runs.
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^^ great post
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Old 30th September 2010, 10:31
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I'm not a big fan of Indian cricket, but Tendulkar is a true legend of the game, and probably the best batsman ive ever seen. Between him and Lara anyway, and definitely the best ODI batsman.
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Old 30th September 2010, 17:05
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When Sachin Retires, The whole cricketing world shall feel his last breath down their spines, Bowlers will be able to breath a sigh of relief, and every-single bowler to have ever had the honour to bowl to the genius shall bow down to the little master and voice their appreciation by chanting chants "Cricket is a religion and sachin is a god", the whole world will feel his absence before the great man even reaches the pavilion in his final apperance in a cricket jersey, end of the day, the waves pound the sea, A police-officer stops crime and sachin tendulkar scores runs.
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^^ great post
Why don`t you nominate it for POTW.
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Why don`t you nominate it for POTW.
I would but I sense a little bit of sarcasm there.if there isnt,it surely deserves to be nominated
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Old 30th September 2010, 17:11
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I would but I sense a little bit of sarcasm there.if there isnt,it surely deserves to be nominated
No sarcasm at all bhai
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he will not retire in his lifetime because indians would want him to reach 2483209482094832094832094832094832940832948324 runs and make 9999999 hundreds..

I think most of the Pakpassioners will retire from their professions before witnessing that happen..
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he will not retire in his lifetime because indians would want him to reach 2483209482094832094832094832094832940832948324 runs and make 9999999 hundreds..

I think most of the Pakpassioners will retire from their professions before witnessing that happen..
Why should he not continue if he can? and why does the people want him to continue???

He is the best batsman in every format of the game currently.. and this is after 21 years since he started playing.
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Why should he not continue if he can? and why does the people want him to continue???

He is the best batsman in every format of the game currently.. and this is after 21 years since he started playing.
I admire his longevity...but I hate watching him bat lol, only his juicy back-foot punches are really lovely. For style I prefer Dravid from India's lineup

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Old 30th September 2010, 17:30
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There was is and will be one Sachin Tendulkar.......He is a genius....as there will be no more Viv Richards,No more Wasim Akrams.no more Shane Warnes,there wont be another Tendulkar.His retirement will be felt all around the cricketing world.the mas has fans not only in India but in every cricketing nations.I assume there are lot of Pakistanis who respect him.That how good he is,when your greatest rivals respect you.
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I've never watched an era in which Sachin has not been playing.

it will definitely not be the same, there was a sense of tension whenever we played India.

"Y'Allah, aaj Sachin ko jaldi out karwadey" was always the predominant thought in my mind.

however good/bad the Indian team would be, he would always be the man.

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Sehwag, Gambhir, Virat Kohli, Pujara, Laxman, Raina, Dhoni...Their line up will be still pretty good..
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I admire his longevity...but I hate watching him bat lol, only his juicy back-foot punches are really lovely. For style I prefer Dravid or Laxman from India's lineup
Okie.. but what looks beautiful for someone might not look beautiful for others.. as it is subjective..

His cover drives with minimal follow through, his straight drives, his back foot punch of a raising delivery or the flick of his wrist is all a treat to watch..

Lara, ponting and laxman have exaggerated back lifts and some like it.. some don't like it..

Sachin and sunny has economy of motion.. some like it and some won't..
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I've never watched an era in which Sachin has not been playing.

it will definitely not be the same, there was a sense of tension whenever we played India.

"Y'Allah, aaj Sachin ko jaldi out karwadey" was always the predominant thought in my mind.

however good/bad the Indian team would be, he would always be the man.

Class player, a wonderful person, and a joy to watch.
Class compliment Zulfi bhai ....
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Okie.. but what looks beautiful for someone might not look beautiful for others.. as it is subjective..

His cover drives with minimal follow through, his straight drives, his back foot punch of a raising delivery or the flick of his wrist is all a treat to watch..

Lara, ponting and laxman have exaggerated back lifts and some like it.. some don't like it..

Sachin and sunny has economy of motion.. some like it and some won't..
well said. I wasn't trying to insult Tendu, just saying my opinion. He's a better batsman than Lara and Ponting imho, even though I prefer their style
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I admire his longevity...but I hate watching him bat lol, only his juicy back-foot punches are really lovely. For style I prefer Dravid or Laxman from India's lineup
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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tendulkar wont retire. even gambhir, raina & dhoni will retire from test cricket after 10-12 years, but a 50 year old tendulkar will still be playing

if 73 year old athletes can play in cwg games, players like wg grace can play international cricket in their 50s, ck nayudu can play a full season of fc cricket at age of 62, then there is no reason to believe that tendulkar cant play test cricket in his 50s


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when Sachin retires.................Afridi wont have a competition!
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Can sachin win a test series in Aus,WI,SA and a world cup before retirement ???
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Can sachin win a test series in Aus,WI,SA and a world cup before retirement ???
why should we think in that way ....???
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why should we think in that way ....???
because you call him best ....its funny that the best thing since bradman hve not won a series in tough places despite playing for 2 decades....
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because you call him best ....its funny that the best thing since bradman hve not won a series in tough places despite playing for 2 decades....
paaji sachin is not a team, he is a player!
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because you call him best ....its funny that the best thing since bradman hve not won a series in tough places despite playing for 2 decades....
cricket is a team game bro ...and plz name a single player who won a series on his own......anywhere....
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India will miss Tendulkar just like Pakistan miss Inzamam. There will be a big hole left in the batting lineup. Will be hard to fill his shoes...
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cricket is a team game bro ...and plz name a single player who won a series on his own......anywhere....
typical indian fan argument
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haha....exactly my friend ..i will not switch my nationality to reply ur post ....
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tendulkar wont retire. even gambhir, raina & dhoni will retire from test cricket after 10-12 years, but a 50 year old tendulkar will still be playing

if 73 year old athletes can play in cwg games, players like wg grace can play international cricket in their 50s, ck nayudu can play a full season of fc cricket at age of 62, then there is no reason to believe that tendulkar cant play test cricket in his 50s

yeah but he's a tubby git. I know everybody wishes he'll play a long time but realistically he's nearing retirement, probably sometime next year
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Can sachin win a test series in Aus,WI,SA and a world cup before retirement ???
Oh.. i thought cricket was a team game.. and it requires a team to win matches..

kaif and wasim Jaffer played in a series which india won in west indies... and may be kaif and jaffer are greater players than sachin.

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because you call him best ....its funny that the best thing since bradman hve not won a series in tough places despite playing for 2 decades....
Despite playing for 17 years, lara has not won a series in india, south africa, sri lanka, england or pakistan..

Where as justin Langer and Damien Martyn has won series in India, SA, Sri Lanka and England.. so Langer and Martyn are far better players than Brian Lara.. as they have won in all countries where Lara has failed..

Great insight.. Thanks I learnt something new from you..

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typical indian fan argument
Now I understood how a great unbiased cricket fan like you will think.. I am still spell bound by your arguments.. waiting for more..

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Why should he not continue if he can? and why does the people want him to continue???

He is the best batsman in every format of the game currently.. and this is after 21 years since he started playing.
i dont mind him playing, just responding to the orginal question.
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India will miss Tendulkar just like Pakistan miss Inzamam.
cmon , Tendulkar deserves a better analogy than that ..

like say the Yankees mising Babe Ruth.There.


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