Any once noticed Fawad Alam has changed his batting style ?

[mrk]

I am watching highlights from todays match and i noticed Fawad Alam has changed his batting style to old one.

I will upload clip from match l8r.

[PB]

In his debut century, he was finding gaps so easily, he use to gets 2's and 3's very, frequently, but now, hes struggling to get singles...

[90MPH]

He's looks more rubbish - he is all over the place in terms of balance and placement with his shots.

[Amir]

He does look different from his debut. I even remember in India, he came lower down and still managed 31 off 20. Wonder where that Fawad is, cause this one has been struggling to pick up singles. For someone of his built, singles and converting 1s into 2s needs to be his strength.

[PB]

Originally Posted by Amir He does look different from his debut. I even remember in India, he came lower down and still managed 31 off 20. Wonder where that Fawad is, cause this one has been struggling to pick up singles. For someone of his built, singles and converting 1s into 2s needs to be his strength.

I remember that match...He hit a six! And a convincing one as well! A biggy!

[IAJ]

Originally Posted by Pakiboii I remember that match...He hit a six! And a convincing one as well! A biggy!

Against Irfan Pathan? That went hardly over the ropes yaar...But it was quite flat though.

[PB]

Originally Posted by IAJ Against Irfan Pathan? That went hardly over the ropes yaar...But it was quite flat though.

It was a straight six, from what I remember...

[iHammad]

He sucks now. Looks he's gonna play the ball with his pad, before the bat comes in very late.

[PB]

Originally Posted by IAJ Against Irfan Pathan? That went hardly over the ropes yaar...But it was quite flat though.

But mehh, Those were flat indian pitches.....

[shaykh1985]

What happened to this guy?...

[mrk]

HE PLAYED WELL TODAY. BECAUSE OF HIS 48 RAZAQ WAS ABLE TO WHAT HE DID IN LAST OVERS.

If he keep scoring 40 50 in middle we will win more and more matches.

[AZ]

he's moving a lot less now.

[kingusama92]

He's a youngster.

Why is everyone expecting him to bat like he's a modern great?

There will be mistakes. I think many are being way to harsh on someone who barely gets fair chances to prove himself. He is the least of our problems at the moment. Something has to be done about that top order. Asad Shafiq has become a sacrificial goat up there in the opener's slot.

Didn't really notice a change in his stance or trigger movements. Perhaps, a tad less movement. Just a tad.

[AZ]

yes he has lost that chk chk trigger movement I think.

or maybe I wasn't paying attention.

[the SHA]

Very hard on the eye, but somewhat effective.

He does look like hes about to spectacularly collapse any moment though...

[asifp]

Maybe he is taking too many batting tips from Waqar Younis?

[the SHA]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar yes he has lost that chk chk trigger movement I think. or maybe I wasn't paying attention.

No, im pretty sure its still there. But after about 100 repetitions your brain wont be able to process it...

[zimran72]

The big difference I see in that clip from him today is that he doesn't come forward anymore. In that clip he was getting onto the front foot and he has probably changed that aspect of his technique to be able to play the short ball better. Previously he struggled against the short ball because he would be on the front foot and the ball would just get big on him.

This is a normal shortcoming of Pakistani batsman as Asad Shafique seems to have the same problem where he commits to the front foot early and a well directed short ball becomes hard to play.

[haroon]

You Pakistani fans surprise me...there is no pleasing u guys..look the Guy did his part and win us the match and he should be praised for it..he played the important supporting role without it razzaq could have been stranded not out

[JibranAnsari]

I guess he was unsure of his place in the side , he just wanted to be the regular player in the team. He plays with some fear now , but once his place is sure he will be a lot better player.

[osee_bhai]

Originally Posted by shaykh1985 What happened to this guy?...

man i was at that match, just insane memories
I remember he was rated more as a bowler/specialist fielder back then, no one was sure who he was, and because gul had come out to bat before him.

[cricfan967]

Originally Posted by osee_bhai man i was at that match, just insane memories I remember he was rated more as a bowler/specialist fielder back then, no one was sure who he was, and because gul had come out to bat before him.

Me too, hopeless match! Everyone was leaving the ground but I stayed and was completely stunned.

[osee_bhai]

Originally Posted by cricfan967 Me too, hopeless match! Everyone was leaving the ground but I stayed and was completely stunned.

Haha I was with 3 friends (2 indians) who decided we would leave the stand, which was right infront of the most crazy pak fans, to go home and beat the rush. We got to the boundary line and us two desperate pakistanis convinced our indian friends to wait when malik hit a 4. The rest is history

We did get stuck in traffic for 2 hours but it was well worth it lol

[Cricketer]

He is batting at the wrong number. He should bat at number 4.

[pakcricketfan]

One thing that has changed is that earlier, he didn't use to struggle with strike rotation at all..now he does.

[ShehryarK]

Originally Posted by pakcricketfan One thing that has changed is that earlier, he didn't use to struggle with strike rotation at all..now he does.

Exactly.

If he can't take rotate strike, take cheeky singles and convert 1s to 2s, then there's not much else left to his game in ODIs!!

[Desire]

no i didnt.

[Raz]

I've seen enough now and how this man continues to find a place in the national team really does baffle me. He is comfortably one of the worst batsmen I have seen in my life. Any batsman, who goes onto the backfoot and tries to cut a flighted delivery, as Fawad did against Swann in one of the ODI matches, is not even worth having in a street-cricket team, let alone an international side.

[MR__KHAN__JI]

You will all see this thread fail....

Ugly Yes....

But he is going to be a star for us!

He is exactly what we need....

We have plenty of pretty players....

Afridi's hair
Umar Akmals Lipstick

We need a Katich Chanderpaul, Collingwood, Nasser Hussain....... in the side....

[pakcricketfan]

Originally Posted by ShehryarK Exactly. If he can't take rotate strike, take cheeky singles and convert 1s to 2s, then there's not much else left to his game in ODIs!!

I don't know what's wrong with him. May be he's low on confidence.. but he shouldn't be..as he's a regular member of the ODI team now.

Earlier, whenever he used to come to the crease, we felt assured that he'll keep the scorecard ticking and will have SR of 90 or so even if he doesn't score a single boundary. This is something that's been missing from his game completely, especially since the last couple of matches. He was doing that alright in England till the 3rd ODI. Uss k baad se, he's struggling.

[Ali Raja]

Originally Posted by kingusama92 He's a youngster. Why is everyone expecting him to bat like he's a modern great? There will be mistakes. I think many are being way to harsh on someone who barely gets fair chances to prove himself. He is the least of our problems at the moment. Something has to be done about that top order. Asad Shafiq has become a sacrificial goat up there in the opener's slot. Didn't really notice a change in his stance or trigger movements. Perhaps, a tad less movement. Just a tad.

Man, he is 25 or something.

[Amjid Javed]

Fawad seems to be shuffling at crease a lot more then he use to which means hes never balanced at the crease, so hes continuing to struggle when judging the flight or the line of incloming deliveries.

He needs to keep a still head and needs to use his feet to come forward rather just moving side ways in the crease.

Even so hes scoring runs for the team!

[zimran72]

Originally Posted by pakcricketfan I don't know what's wrong with him. May be he's low on confidence.. but he shouldn't be..as he's a regular member of the ODI team now. Earlier, whenever he used to come to the crease, we felt assured that he'll keep the scorecard ticking and will have SR of 90 or so even if he doesn't score a single boundary. This is something that's been missing from his game completely, especially since the last couple of matches. He was doing that alright in England till the 3rd ODI. Uss k baad se, he's struggling.

My friend if the score is 60/3 after 15 every time he comes in then what else do you expect of him?

[Amjid Javed]

Originally Posted by Raz I've seen enough now and how this man continues to find a place in the national team really does baffle me. He is comfortably one of the worst batsmen I have seen in my life. Any batsman, who goes onto the backfoot and tries to cut a flighted delivery, as Fawad did against Swann in one of the ODI matches, is not even worth having in a street-cricket team, let alone an international side.

Maybe the fact he scores runs? He may look ugly at crease but hes scoring runs for the team and contributing!

sadly not everyone is as technically gifted like Afridi or Imran nazir who so avidly love!

[pakcricketfan]

Originally Posted by zimran72 My friend if the score is 60/3 after 15 every time he comes in then what else do you expect of him?

Nahi yar.. I'm just 'generally speaking'..not talking about any particular game.
And I'm not taking away any credit from him. He did play a decent and an important inning yesterday.

[Amjid Javed]

327 from 10 Odis at an average of 36.33 is a decent return for Fawad this year!

He has to come in most of the time when the teams 4/5 wickets down with next to no runs on board and people are expecting a run a ball hunderd off him etc... Stupid expectations or what.

[pakcricketfan]

Originally Posted by Amjid Javed 327 from 10 Odis at an average of 36.33 is a decent return for Fawad this year! He has to come in most of the time when the teams 4/5 wickets down with next to no runs on board and people are expecting a run a ball hunderd off him etc... Stupid expectations or what.

He is definitely our best batsmen in ODI's this year.
It's a shame how he was dropped for the Asia Cup after having a decent series in Australia!

[sehsan]

Originally Posted by Amjid Javed 327 from 10 Odis at an average of 36.33 is a decent return for Fawad this year! He has to come in most of the time when the teams 4/5 wickets down with next to no runs on board and people are expecting a run a ball hunderd off him etc... Stupid expectations or what.

Lets be honest here. I am fawad fan but he need to rotate the strike and should be able to hit the boundary once he gets set. Problem with him is that he is being 1 dimensional player right now and he will never be able to win matches for you.

He should be able to rotate the strike and should be able to hit boundaries once he is IN.

[zimran72]

Originally Posted by sehsan Lets be honest here. I am fawad fan but he need to rotate the strike and should be able to hit the boundary once he gets set. Problem with him is that he is being 1 dimensional player right now and he will never be able to win matches for you. He should be able to rotate the strike and should be able to hit boundaries once he is IN.

Can't argue against that. He needs to try to find the gaps as opposed to playing attempted slogs because he just can't do that.

AJ just out of curiosity what was his strike rate during this period?

[Eagle_Eye]

Total and utter muppt with the bat if there ever is one... Plays the short ball like an Indian and spinners like a South African!! Shafiq is much more classier prospect...

[babu]

due to his stand on wicket yesterday, razzaq played until the end and we won the match. I would give due credit to fawad as well as he build the inning and let razzaq focus on his inning. Razzaq needed to stay a while on wicket, this is the only way he would be lethal at the end.

[Eagle_Eye]

Originally Posted by babu due to his stand on wicket yesterday, razzaq played until the end and we won the match. I would give due credit to fawad as well as he build the inning and let razzaq focus on his inning. Razzaq needed to stay a while on wicket, this is the only way he would be lethal at the end.

yeh rite...... open your eyes brother....

[Maula Jutt]

Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye yeh rite...... open your eyes brother....

He is right. Razzaq is not like Afridi. He doesn't start hitting as soon as he hits the crease. He takes time to settle first. Alam and Razzaq had a long partnership and that played a vital role in setting Razzaq. Alam's importance was only highlighted more when after his dismissal, the rest couldn't stay at the crease to save their lives.

Coming to Fawad, the only fault I saw in his yesterday's innings was, as many have pointed out already, lack of boundaries and less rotation of strike.

[Eagle_Eye]

Originally Posted by Maula Jutt He is right. Razzaq is not like Afridi. He doesn't start hitting as soon as he hits the crease. He takes time to settle first. Alam and Razzaq had a long partnership and that played a vital role in setting Razzaq. Alam's importance was only highlighted more when after his dismissal, the rest couldn't stay at the crease to save their lives. Coming to Fawad, the only fault I saw in his yesterday's innings was, as many have pointed out already, lack of boundaries and less rotation of strike.

As SK has pointed out already.... whats left to do if you cannot do that as batsman?

One can even say he was making the task more difficult for Razzak... atleast others ran themselves out to give Razzak the strike

[Zain93]

The guy is probably out most consistent batsman. We don't need pretty dashers in the team anymore. We have enough of those. We need someone who will give us 40+ on a regular basis. He has done that pretty well.

[Tapori]

I agree with the OP:

Fawad has changed but due to:

Poor running partners

Above all - Being Jerked around by the board = Hesistancy.

Thousgh he looked a tad short of fitness in the last two ODI's; Maybe he's ill.

I guarantee, when he's batting with YK/Umar.Akmal/Asad/any quick runner, he plays better shots/rotates the strike.

Please, someone feed him tubs of Yogurt; Dude needs to bulk up.

[Maula Jutt]

Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye [/B] As SK has pointed out already.... whats left to do if you cannot do that as batsman? One can even say he was making the task more difficult for Razzak... atleast others ran themselves out to give Razzak the strike

Are you serious?

And my criticism of less strike rotation and more boundaries was limited to last match's performance only. He is usually okay in those areas.

[TurkishCricketFan]

I am a Fawad fan but he struggled yesterday, still managed to play an important role though.
Many people won't appreciate the importance of his role yesterday, but it was important nevertheless.

Yesterday's win: 90% Razzaq, 8% Shahid, 2% Fawad. Rest 0.

[AZ]

Fadi's knock was waaay more crucial than Afridi.

Shahid was only there for 6-7 overs.

[sam]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar Fadi's knock was waaay more crucial than Afridi. Shahid was only there for 6-7 overs.

Really, not.

Afridi was the one who got the RRR under control. If not for his innings, the RRR would be nearly 9 even before Razzaq arrived.

Fawad played a good innings but he does need to work a lot on rotating the strike and hitting a boundary every now and then.

[kingusama92]

Originally Posted by TurkishCricketFan I am a Fawad fan but he struggled yesterday, still managed to play an important role though. Many people won't appreciate the importance of his role yesterday, but it was important nevertheless. Yesterday's win: 90% Razzaq, 8% Shahid, 2% Fawad. Rest 0.

I'd pass on a few percentage points to Wahab Riaz.

[Eagle_Eye]

Originally Posted by kingusama92 I'd pass on a few percentage points to Wahab Riaz.

Do not forget Hafeez

[AZ]

Originally Posted by sam Really, not. Afridi was the one who got the RRR under control. If not for his innings, the RRR would be nearly 9 even before Razzaq arrived. Fawad played a good innings but he does need to work a lot on rotating the strike and hitting a boundary every now and then.

agreed, but the only way we stood a chance is if we batted the overs, and Fadi occupying the crease was a lot more vital.

[Eagle_Eye]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar Fadi's knock was waaay more crucial than Afridi. Shahid was only there for 6-7 overs.

and who wrestled the initiative away from SA?.... You cannot compare Lambs to Lions ...

[sam]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar agreed, but the only way we stood a chance is if we batted the overs, and Fadi occupying the crease was a lot more vital.

It was vital but definitely not more than the counter attacking innings from Afridi. Fawad played well but his slow innings made things more challenging for the hitters. If it wasn't for Afridi, the RRR would have been nearly out of reach by the time Razzaq walked in.

[osee_bhai]

He does have the potential to hit the big shots once he's in, but lately he gets out by playing a stupid aggressive shot once he's in, around 40ish. But we NEED someone like him, because even then his strike late is not that low, and he actually puts a price on his wicket.
In the aus series I remember him and umar akmal saving our ***** from serious humiliation every match. We still suffered quite a bit of humiliation though, but that's a different story.

[Thank God It Is ME]

He scores runs because he knows he is very limited batsman and does not try to be something which he is not and u see when he needs to up the tempo he is not equiped with enough talents to make things happen. He changed or not but he deserves to be there to hold the batting line up together.

[Amjid Javed]

Originally Posted by sehsan Lets be honest here. I am fawad fan but he need to rotate the strike and should be able to hit the boundary once he gets set. Problem with him is that he is being 1 dimensional player right now and he will never be able to win matches for you. He should be able to rotate the strike and should be able to hit boundaries once he is IN.

I agree as well 100% he needs to work on his game and learn to rotate the strike better. He needs some technical help but then again who in the team doesnt?

[JibranAnsari]

Originally Posted by sam Really, not. Afridi was the one who got the RRR under control. If not for his innings, the RRR would be nearly 9 even before Razzaq arrived. Fawad played a good innings but he does need to work a lot on rotating the strike and hitting a boundary every now and then.

Yah but afridi left pakistan in a deep hole when he got out and got out to a nothing shot

[sam]

Originally Posted by JibranAnsari Yah but afridi left pakistan in a deep hole when he got out and got out to a nothing shot

Yaar, everyone - includes those who watched the match and/or missed it ;) - knows that Razzaq won the game. Period.

Debate is which innings of the two (Afridi's or Fawad's) was more valuable. I'd say Afridi.