Bowling Changes for 2nd Test?

[Amjid Javed]

Batting from a top 5 point of View have done a good job for the team in this Test Match. Hafeez/Taufeeq gelled well as a combo, Azhar has been solid at number 3.

YK and Misbah have found form.

Personally i see no need to play front line spinners in side with Hafeez also in the team. Wahab is out so i guess Tanvir and Reluctantly Sami need to be called up with one of Ajmal/Rehman being dropped.

[kkmix]

Sami for Wahab

Tanveer for Ajmal.

[*sallu*]

Sami for Wahab only change I think

[Gollum]

Need three pace bowlers - Sami and Tanvir will come in for Ajmal and Riaz.

[Hassan0987]

Sami in for Wahab, and maybe tanvir in for Rehman

[Amjid Javed]

Two spinners means that we have to bring on way to early in a test match unless YK gets more bowling!

[Torpedo]

Its better to forfeit the match than have Sami play. He brings shame even to the crap bowlers club.

[Gollum]

Originally Posted by i-done Its better to forfeit the match than have Sami play. He brings shame even to the crap bowlers club.

this post is so wrong on so many levels....

[tanzeel]

Originally Posted by gollumbird this post is so wrong on so many levels....

How so? Playing Sami as one half of a two man pace attack is as good as forfeiting the game so might as well save the team the trouble of going through the motions and exhausting themselves for no reason.

[aamerfan]

Originally Posted by i-done Its better to forfeit the match than have Sami play. He brings shame even to the crap bowlers club.

ohhh wait for the pro sami people to come in here

your gonna get it

[161]

Fly Raza Hassan in or Yasir Shah .. or some other spinner.

Neither of the current two are inspiring much confidence in me.

Ajmal doesn't turn it enough and Rehman doesn't have any variation .. both have been easy pickings for the RSA top order.

[GOAT]

Three man pace attack. Tanvir Ahmed isn't even in the squad, I think. Sami has to come in, its a must. Hafeez bowled economically throughout. No idea who will be the third seamer, don't think we even have one in the squad.

If thats the case then YK will have to bowl more. No other solution but to use the part timers.

[Zaheer Abbas's Fan]

Originally Posted by tanzeel How so? Playing Sami as one half of a two man pace attack is as good as forfeiting the game so might as well save the team the trouble of going through the motions and exhausting themselves for no reason.

Sami bowled well in australia, took wickets and as usual had several catches dropped, apart from Gul he is as good as we've got right now.

[qaiser]

Originally Posted by gollumbird Need three pace bowlers - Sami and Tanvir will come in for Ajmal and Riaz.

exactly
great minds think alike

and Asad Shafiq for U.Akmal would be icing on the cake

[TigerJat]

I would rather play Waqar Younis rather than Sami. Because it is possible he takes a couple of wickets and then will remain in contention for forever.

I really wish they would go with some youngsters

[hashbb]

If they want Sami in, then they need to go with 3 pacers, meaning we would have to drop Ajmal

[161]

How about we recall Shoaib

Seems like the only guy who can get Amla or Kallis.

[tanzeel]

Originally Posted by zaheerabbas Sami bowled well in australia, took wickets and as usual had several catches dropped, apart from Gul he is as good as we've got right now.

Same old excuse. 3-200 in one game does not equate to bowling well neither does bowling well, and I'm taking a lot of liberties with that term here, in one game qualify you for selection when you average 51 over 34 test matches.

[murphyslaw79]

I think the following team should play

1. Hafeez
2. Umar
3. Azhar
4. Younis
5. Misbah
6. Akmal (if yousuf was fit, i would have dropped Akmal, and batted Misbah at 6)
7. Akmal+ (unfortunately we have no one else to keep)
8. Tanvir (replacing Wahab)
9. Sami (replaces Ajmal)
10. Gul
11. Rehman

3 seamers and 1 spinner, with Hafeez and Younis to provide some support.

if hafeez and Younis can wheel their way through 20 overs between them, of the remaining 70 you would expect Rehman to get through 20 with the remaining shared by the seamers.

This balances out the workload, which is very important to manage on flat tracks.

Batting wise, there are no real bunnies in there.

[hur rizvi]

Sami should only play if we are going in wid 3 seamers if we are going wid 2 then Tanvir Ahmed deserves a go

[Sledger]

I think they will replace Wahab with *shudder*.. Sami.

[muhammad saad]

Tanvir Ahmed will be as crappy as Sami in these sort of wickets , The ideal bowler would have been Asad Ali who get movement even on the deadliest of tracks.

[hur rizvi]

Originally Posted by muhammad saad Tanvir Ahmed will be as crappy as Sami in these sort of wickets , The ideal bowler would have been Asad Ali who get movement even on the deadliest of tracks.

I agree but PCB have said no replacement will be made so Tanvir should play ... Poor guy has been on the bench for 3 test series

[shehzadd]

Thr r more than 10 better bowlers in Pak domestic cricket than M SAMI.
Icc must take a notice. What a curruption.

[Ryankhan]

I think both spinners should stay, depending on the pitch. Asad Shafiq should replace crap katmal as he is currently. so in shorts ill make 2 changes

Asad in for chotu Katmal
Tanvir in for Riaz

rest is all gud.

Younis can play gud role as 3rd seamer and hafeez should be given more chance to bowl. Rehman n ajmal are good combo, it unsetlles the batsmen with one left arm n odr right arm and one bowls diferent n odr bowls difrent. so no need to change that. not spinners fault if they are bowling on flat batting pitch...

thanks to allah we didnt gave botha 5+ wickets or harris in that matter. Kash yousuf hota we wud had a strong batting line up...

Hope next test PAK wins it

[Arsh_afridi]

Taufiq
Hafeez
Younis
Azhar ali
Misbah ul haq
Asad shafiq (He can spin the ball+ got some brain)
Akmal
Gul
Tanvir
Sami
Abdurehman

[Pakprideuk]

3 pacers, we cannot afford to go in with 3 spinners (counting Hafeez). I think Hafeez was definately under bowled, he posed a higher level of threat in comparison to Saeed Ajmal, therefore i would have this squad:

1.)Hafeez
2.)Umar
3.)Azhar
4.)Younis
5.)Misbah
6.)Asad
7.)Adnan
8.)Gul
9.)Sami
10.)Tanveer
11.)Rehman

I think that's the best squad from the current lot.

[Pakprideuk]

Originally Posted by Arsh_afridi Taufiq Hafeez Younis Azhar ali Asad shafiq (He can spin the ball+ got some brain) Akmal Gul Tanvir Sami Abdurehman

You missed the captain mate.

[iRfaN_LA]

Tanvir Ahmad will be useless on these pitches. Sami, at least has got some pace.

[chui_kadoo]

We have 1 test left and all to play for. We need some magic in the bowling department. If it was my choice I would risk Shoaib Akhter for this final test. He can still produce that magic to get rid of the danger batsmen Amla and kallis. I would go for broke and bring him in. Hes miles better than Sami and co and who knows may produce a devestating spell that could win us the series and that against SA.

[Amjid Javed]

Originally Posted by TigerJat I would rather play Waqar Younis rather than Sami. Because it is possible he takes a couple of wickets and then will remain in contention for forever. I really wish they would go with some youngsters

thats true! Maybe waqar should make a comeback!

[PakistanCricketForever!]

Sami for wahab. Unfortunetly. Shud try tanvir. LOL he deserves a go LOL three series he's been on the bench

[qaiser]

Originally Posted by PakistanCricketForever! Sami for wahab. Unfortunetly. Shud try tanvir. LOL he deserves a go LOL three series he's been on the bench

Tanvir's job is to make sure the bench stay warm and don't fly away

[1137moiz]

I'm guessing Sami will be back? Always liked the effort and express pace of his bowling and he was often unfortunate, but still woefully inconsistent for Tests. Hopefully if he does get picked Sami can improve InshaAllah

[Amjid Javed]

Originally Posted by GOAT Three man pace attack. Tanvir Ahmed isn't even in the squad, I think. Sami has to come in, its a must. Hafeez bowled economically throughout. No idea who will be the third seamer, don't think we even have one in the squad. If thats the case then YK will have to bowl more. No other solution but to use the part timers.

Tanvir ahmed is in the sqaud.

Sohail tanvir was released due to lack of fitness!

[Monsee]

Originally Posted by gollumbird this post is so wrong on so many levels....

Yet, it is nothing but a fact...Sami is the king of worthless bowlers!

If Sami takes wickets on these pitches and helps Pakistan's cause by not going for over 5 an over (usually 6+ an over), I will not post on PP for a month, heck even months

Chances of Misbah bowling his arm over and taking wickets are actually much higher

[phoenix363]

I really think Umar Akmal should bat higher in the order. At five (maybe even four). We cannot rely on him to come out when we are 4 or 5 wickets down and under pressure, since his brain farts will prove to be more costly.

Also, can anyone please confirm- is Asad Shafiq in the test squad? Or was he sent home allong with Akhtar

[optimusprime1122]

I would like

T. Ahmed
S. Tanvir
U. Gul
A. Rehman
M. Hafeez

[Gollum]

Originally Posted by Monsee Yet, it is nothing but a fact...Sami is the king of worthless bowlers! If Sami takes wickets on these pitches and helps Pakistan's cause by not going for over 5 an over (usually 6+ an over), I will not post on PP for a month, heck even months Chances of Misbah bowling his arm over and taking wickets are actually much higher

I'm not a Sami fan, but saying we should forfeit the match rather than play Sami is a bit OTT. I agree with everything Sami detractors are saying. Personally I would go with Shoaib Akhtar, even though he may not last 5 days without an injury.

[swaziboy]

I reckon the lad deserves another chance. If ppl like hafeez and misbah can be warranted a place then why not sami. He was v unlucky to be dropped after such gooD bowling in the sydney test. We need a bowler with good pace and I reckon he will deliver and will reverse it in these conditions. Surely can't do worse that the current lot we have.

[Eht]

I just want to see how good a bowler Tanveer is, so I want him to play.

[saamry]

Originally Posted by Amjid Javed Batting from a top 5 point of View have done a good job for the team in this Test Match. Hafeez/Taufeeq gelled well as a combo, Azhar has been solid at number 3. YK and Misbah have found form. Personally i see no need to play front line spinners in side with Hafeez also in the team. Wahab is out so i guess Tanvir and Reluctantly Sami need to be called up with one of Ajmal/Rehman being dropped.

This is where you see the value of an all rounder. Kallis is like a full on batsman and then he bowls like a pretty good medium pacer.

[PakistanCricketForever!]

Originally Posted by qaiser Tanvir's job is to make sure the bench stay warm and don't fly away

agreed but needs to be tryed out atleast
never now he might have improved

or even try out rana naved in the NZ series

[Osman]

badly need a fast bowling all rounder in our team....would help the balance of the team greatly! I believe Razzaq should have been called up....his test stats aren't great but he is the best we have atm and we should make use of him

[PB]

Gul
Sami
Tanvir Ahmed
Abdur Rehman
Hafeez

[FastBowler]

[Tapori]

Pakiboii

This; Although I wouldn't want to be the man to tell Ajmal the bad news...

[Omar Malik]

Tanvir Ahmed should play as he's been on all tour and hasn't played a game!

[FastBowler]

Have to play Sami
Is Yousuf fit? If so, drop Umar Akmal and play him

[GOAT]

Originally Posted by Amjid Javed Tanvir ahmed is in the sqaud. Sohail tanvir was released due to lack of fitness!

we need more diverse names dammit!

Yeah, Tanvir in then + Sami along with Gul. Three man pace attack where the most reliable bowler is Mr. Rhythm himself, Gul!

In any case, on these kind of wickets your batting does the trick. And if theres reverse swing on offer, we have one of the best bowlers for the job

[Tapori]

STAG attack! ( No Hafeez in the abrev. for prudish reasons...)

[waqar_ahmad]

3 pacers, 1 spinner.

[kingusama92]

Tough choice.

One bowler [Sami] has yet to impress in the test format and he's already had 34 matches under his belt. The other choice [Tanvir] is a rookie with plenty of domestic experience, but that's all. It becomes a choice of what each bowler brings to the middle.

Tanvir is a bowler who is in great form with the ball at the moment and could do wonders. Sami is on the complete opposite end of the scale with an absolutely abysmal performance in the recent matches that were played.

Sami brings pace while Tanvir brings accuracy.

I'll have to lean towards Tanvir Ahmed getting his debut. Sami does not possess enough over Tanvir to get the nod. Thus, i'll take Tanvir Ahmed. Although, the best option would be to drop a spinner and include both pacers. The spinning duo didn't work out too well.

[Amjid Javed]

Originally Posted by kingusama92 Tough choice. One bowler [Sami] has yet to impress in the test format and he's already had 34 matches under his belt. The other choice [Tanvir] is a rookie with plenty of domestic experience, but that's all. It becomes a choice of what each bowler brings to the middle. Tanvir is a bowler who is in great form with the ball at the moment and could do wonders. Sami is on the complete opposite end of the scale with an absolutely abysmal performance in the recent matches that were played. Sami brings pace while Tanvir brings accuracy. I'll have to lean towards Tanvir Ahmed getting his debut. Sami does not possess enough over Tanvir to get the nod. Thus, i'll take Tanvir Ahmed. Although, the best option would be to drop a spinner and include both pacers. The spinning duo didn't work out too well.

Sami will probably play due to "Experience"

[Monsee]

^^^'Experience' of getting 80 odd wickets in 34 tests at an earth shattering 50+ average

As for others saying he bowled brilliantly in Sydney...you also must think iDamaad is a batsman too!

Since when did 3 wickets in a match and a lot of runs given away = Brilliant bowling?

[Theo_14]

It's obvious that Sami will be the bowler to replace Wahab Riaz - he offers pace and something different to the side.

Although I'm not a fan of him, I still think PCB will choose Sami seeing as he has more experience and test average is around 50.

"I've not taken much time off during the off season and have been working hard on my game at the Rashid Latif Cricket Academy, as well as training on my own," Sami told PakPassion.net. "I want to ensure that I am 100% ready when the new season starts. I am hopeful that the hard work will pay off and I can be given another chance for Pakistan."

Well.. looks like you'll be playing on Saterday!