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Old 30th November 2010, 23:32
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Honest XI for World Cup and beyond

Who are the honest players left now after latest roll call of suspected players?

We need to pick up the pieces and start building the team for world cup with these guys:

Younis
Yousuf
Misah
Afridi
Ajmal
Gul
Abdul Razzaq
Asad
Azhar
Rao Iftikhar
Fawad
Hafeez
Shoaib Akhtar
Sohail Tanvir
Tanvir Ahmed
Adnan Akmal
Sarfraz Ahmed
Taufeeq Umar

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Old 30th November 2010, 23:35
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Maybe it's because of the 'beyond' part, but I don't see Akhtar there.

And its no honest XI without Rao Ifthikar.
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Old 30th November 2010, 23:36
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Originally Posted by gollumbird
Who are the honest players left now after latest roll call of suspected players?

We need to pick up the pieces and start building the team for world cup with these guys:

Younis
Yousuf
Misah
Afridi
Ajmal
Gul
Abdul Razzaq
Asad
Azhar
Fawad
Hafeez
Shoaib Akhtar
Sohail Tanvir
Tanvir Ahmed
Adnan Akmal
Sarfraz Ahmed
Good call. It's time to wipe the slate clean, start fresh. I don't care about the technicalities. I'm through with being fair minded and impartial. All those names mentioned in the latest video, out. For good.

It'll take a few years to bring the standard of Pakistani cricket up to an international quality, especially if we introduce a ton of young players into the mix. But it'll be worth it. The time is right to appoint as captain to provide an experienced and honourable figure head, and rebuild the team with youngsters from there.

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Old 30th November 2010, 23:37
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Maybe it's because of the 'beyond' part, but I don't see Akhtar there.

And its no honest XI without Rao Ifthikar.
Yeah beyond part will be without certain players Yousuf and Akhtar in particular. They may still be there a while playing just one format.

Edit - Added Rao!
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Old 30th November 2010, 23:40
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Thats actually not a 'bad' group of players btw. Obviously the bowling is still weak-ish but it can get the job done in ODI's. The batting is surprisingly strong, strong enough to score 400 in a Test
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Old 1st December 2010, 00:35
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1.Taufeeq Umar
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3.Azhar Ali
4.Younis Khan
5.Asad Shafiq
6.Shahid Afridi (c)
7.Abdul Razzaq
8.Zulqarnain Haider (wk)
9.Iftikhar Anjum
10.Sohail Tanvir
11.Umar Gul

12.Shoaib Akhtar
13.Ahmed Shehzad
14.Tanvir Ahmed
15.Fawad Alam
16.Saeed Ajmal
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Old 1st December 2010, 00:39
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1.Taufeeq Umar
2.Mohammad Hafeez
3.Azhar Ali
4.Younis Khan
5.Asad Shafiq
6.Shahid Afridi (c)
7.Abdul Razzaq
8.Zulqarnain Haider (wk)
9.Iftikhar Anjum
10.Sohail Tanvir
11.Umar Gul

12.Shoaib Akhtar
13.Ahmed Shehzad
14.Tanvir Ahmed
15.Fawad Alam
16.Saeed Ajmal
No matter how honest and good intentioned this guy is, I doubt PCB will ever allow him back. He is as good as finished.

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Old 1st December 2010, 00:43
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Sarfraz Ahmed I guess then..
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Old 1st December 2010, 01:37
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If you want to pick a honest eleven then do not bring any Akmals close to it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 1st December 2010, 01:43
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Do u believe in mazhar majeed's claims? ICC has investigated kamran akmal twice , call him a bad player but he has not been proven a match fixer or a spot fixer. I know we are all entitled to our own opinions but can't we stop our judgement until january.
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Old 1st December 2010, 03:42
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1. Mohammed Hafeez
2. Imran Nazir/Ahmed Shehzad
3. Younis Khan
4. Mohammed Yousuf
5. Shoaib Malik
6. Shahid Afridi
7. Abdul Razzaq
8. Adnan Akmal
9. Umar Gul
10. Junaid Khan
11. Shoaib Akhtar

If shoaib malik is willing to open, replace him there with nazir at no.2 and bring fawad in at 5. If younis can wicket keep, drop adnan and bring in fawad.

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Old 1st December 2010, 03:52
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Who are the honest players left now after latest roll call of suspected players?

We need to pick up the pieces and start building the team for world cup with these guys:

Younis
Yousuf
Misah
Afridi
Ajmal
Gul
Abdul Razzaq
Asad
Azhar
Rao Iftikhar
Fawad
Hafeez
Shoaib Akhtar
Sohail Tanvir
Tanvir Ahmed
Adnan Akmal
Sarfraz Ahmed
Taufeeq Umar

Abdul Razzaq
Hafeez to open

Azhar
YK
Asad
MoYo

Afridi
Sarfaraz
Ajmal
Akhtar
Gul
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Old 1st December 2010, 10:02
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Shahzad
Shahzeb
Hafeez
Younus khan
Fawad alam
Asad shafiq
Misbah ul haq
Sarfaraz
Shahid afridi
Abdurazzak
Sohail tanvir
Shoib akhtar
Tanvir ahmad
Saeed ajmal
Umar gul
Junaid khan

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Old 1st December 2010, 10:26
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Originally Posted by Pakiboii
1.Taufeeq Umar
2.Mohammad Hafeez
3.Azhar Ali
4.Younis Khan
5.Asad Shafiq
6.Shahid Afridi (c)
7.Abdul Razzaq
8.Zulqarnain Haider (wk)
9.Iftikhar Anjum
10.Sohail Tanvir
11.Umar Gul

12.Shoaib Akhtar
13.Ahmed Shehzad
14.Tanvir Ahmed
15.Fawad Alam
16.Saeed Ajmal
is it test championship team... whole top order is suitable for test....
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Old 1st December 2010, 17:21
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ODI

Nazir
Hafeez
Younis
Fawad
MoYo
Shafiq
Afridi
Razzaq
Safraz Ahmed
Gul
Akhtar

T20

Nazir
Hafeez
Afridi
Younis
Shafiq
Ahmed Shahzad
Razzaq
Safraz Ahmed
Gul
Ajmal
Akhtar

Tests

Taufeeq
Hafeez
Azhar Ali
Younis
MoYo
Shafiq
Alam
Safraz Ahmed
Sohail Tanvir
Gul
Rao

All three teams are very strong in the batting department and look set to have a bright future InshAllah. The bowling though is slightly weaker but now at least we are rid of the cancer's.
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Old 1st December 2010, 20:13
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Originally Posted by gollumbird
Who are the honest players left now after latest roll call of suspected players?

We need to pick up the pieces and start building the team for world cup with these guys:

Younis
Yousuf
Misah
Afridi
Ajmal
Gul
Abdul Razzaq
Asad
Azhar
Rao Iftikhar
Fawad
Hafeez
Shoaib Akhtar
Sohail Tanvir
Tanvir Ahmed
Adnan Akmal
Sarfraz Ahmed
Taufeeq Umar

I don't think so taufeeq has done something special to earn a call in LOI.

And Misbah... i highly doubt him as a honest character and i will not have him in the LOIs whether he is honest or not!
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Old 1st December 2010, 20:17
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What is Malik doing in an Honest XI?
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Old 1st December 2010, 20:27
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I don't think so taufeeq has done something special to earn a call in LOI.

And Misbah... i highly doubt him as a honest character and i will not have him in the LOIs whether he is honest or not!
Not specifically talking about LOI.

And there is nothing dishonest about Misbah except for inconsistency that has plagued his international career.
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Old 1st December 2010, 20:29
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People don't trust Misbah because he's educated. Hence all the MBA sniggers. Poor guy
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Old 1st December 2010, 21:16
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I'm an Afridi fan but wouldn't have him in my 'honest' XI that is if you're talking about playing the game 'honestly' with 'honesty'
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Old 1st December 2010, 21:16
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Old 1st December 2010, 21:16
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Not specifically talking about LOI.

And there is nothing dishonest about Misbah except for inconsistency that has plagued his international career.
Then why did u said in OP that we should make WC team with these guys!
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Old 1st December 2010, 21:22
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Then why did u said in OP that we should make WC team with these guys!
What part of word beyond don't you understand

I'm referring to future time period by referring to World Cup and Beyond.
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Old 1st December 2010, 23:00
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What is Malik doing in an Honest XI?
He is too honest for the standard of international cricket haha ...where in the world a player refuse to play when his coach and captain ask him..it happens in Pakistan only haha
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Old 2nd December 2010, 01:01
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Maaan..look at our bowling attack...
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Old 2nd December 2010, 20:40
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1.Ahmed Shehzaad
2.Mohammad Hafeez
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4.Asad Shafiq
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7.Abdul Razzaq
8.Zulqarnain Haider/Adnan/Sarfaraz (wk) (not sure if syco zuni wil be dere)
9.Abdur Rehman
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11.Umar Gul

12.Shoaib Akhtar
13. Hammad Azam
14.Tanvir Ahmed
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Old 2nd December 2010, 21:01
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Who are the honest players left now after latest roll call of suspected players?

We need to pick up the pieces and start building the team for world cup with these guys:

Younis
Yousuf
Misah
Afridi
Ajmal
Gul
Abdul Razzaq
Asad
Azhar
Rao Iftikhar
Fawad
Hafeez
Shoaib Akhtar
Sohail Tanvir
Tanvir Ahmed
Adnan Akmal
Sarfraz Ahmed
Taufeeq Umar
What does the bolded part mean?? If u refer to the time beyond WC?
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Old 2nd December 2010, 21:06
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I'm an Afridi fan but wouldn't have him in my 'honest' XI that is if you're talking about playing the game 'honestly' with 'honesty'
Dude Cmon Afridi is a legend,,,,, He is the sort of character who is spontaneous more than anything else, even the apple eating incident he caused himself more harm than good, nothing pre planned.......

I say Afridi deserves that spot just for his HONESTY....
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Old 2nd December 2010, 21:21
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I like this idea. Throw out every player who is suspected. BUT it won't happen.
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Old 2nd December 2010, 22:55
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Good call. It's time to wipe the slate clean, start fresh. I don't care about the technicalities. I'm through with being fair minded and impartial. All those names mentioned in the latest video, out. For good.

It'll take a few years to bring the standard of Pakistani cricket up to an international quality, especially if we introduce a ton of young players into the mix. But it'll be worth it. The time is right to appoint as captain to provide an experienced and honourable figure head, and rebuild the team with youngsters from there.

Excellent post.....great for improving PAKISTAN cricket in the long run.


WHat i find amusing is even though its soo obvious why do soo many disagree.... i mean surely every1 knows players like BUTT, AMIR, ASIF.
u l find them in every town in every city in PAKISTAN.....What PAKISTAN cricket needs is to root out all this rubbish...and it wont take long to have another great team.....
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Old 3rd December 2010, 00:47
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Old 3rd December 2010, 03:47
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