Are Pakistan Right to go with a Part Time Keeper in T20 Cricket?

[Saj]

With Umar Akmal the only "wicketkeeper" selected for the T20 matches in New Zealand, do you think the selectors are taking a risk or is it the right move?

[AZ]

the biggest risk for me is injury, to be honest.

could also have an adverse effect on his batting.

but T20 is very much a 'horses for courses' type of deal, so I think its fair enough.

up to Jr. to put his hand up and do the job for the side.

[Newton_fan]

I agree with this Part time wicketkeeper decision for t20s. It will make room for a extra batsmen

[MRSN]

T20s -May be
ODIs -NO

Tests -defo NO

[Markhor]

Players in the past have struggled to handle both the batting and keeping side,Chris Read and Geraint Jones are examples.Kamran Akmal has batting ability but his keeping has been suspect.Sarfraz Ahmed is a good keeper but poor with the bat.It depends on striking the right balance,if Umar Akmal wants a place in the side,even if he has to take on extra duties then so be it.Good to give him some responsibility.Plus it is T20s so there is room to experiment.

[fareedymohammad]

IF SOuth Africa can go with AB why cant we go with U.Akmal Its not like we have any option we have no good keeper in Pakistan WHO can bat aik KAmi tha who was not good at keeping now WE all know U akmal can bat keeping be ker he layga

[MR__KHAN__JI]

should be the keeper!

[Afridi_Fan]

T20 and ODIs, Yes.

Tests, No.

[MRSN]

What if he starts dropping catches?

Will you drop him based on his performance with the bat or with the gloves?

[brombleybybow]

Hi

Are there any other hopefulls apart from Umar Akmal; eg someone good from the domestic scene? I think they're selection would have let us try out some new talent in an international setting and let him focus solely on his batting.

[fareedymohammad]

Not only that SInce KAMI Is not coming back we should train him full time for Test and odi's Too So we can get an extra BATS MAN out batting is not very strong

[GOAT]

In LOI's I think you can get away with it pretty easily. T20's especially, I don't have the statistics to back this up but I'm guessing most dismissals are caught in the field or bowled, just due to the attacking nature of the game.

Its not like the pitch will offer massive turn or anything like that, anyways.

ODI's are another matter-- Mostly because JR. here could be our best ODI batsmen since Yousuf BUT he looked up to the task of being a keeper/batsmen in the SA ODI.

[1137moiz]

Wrong decision. it's good on paper, but Umar is a crap keeper

[Markhor]

It depends.If he is dropping dollies then he should be replaced or a specialist keeper should come into the side.If he's spilling tough chances-especially since he'll be a part-time keeper then we can give him the benefit of the doubt.He seemed solid when he stepped in to keep during the SA series.

[PakistanPaindabad]

We were playing with Kamran Akmal for all these years. He did fine as a part time keeper

[Newton_fan]

But I am worried, Shoaib Akhtar's Bowling on NZ pitches will not be easy to keep

[Mujtaba_Saeed]

if no kami for shoter formats then yes

[mon858]

pakistan should give Sarfraz Ahmed a long run in all forms of the game, 10 t20, 10 ODI and 5 tests (10 innings). and then if he still not performing with gloves and bat, they can drop him. he was the 2nd best batsman-keeper in pakistan, but he has been sidelined. look at his firstclass average, still much higher than even Kamran I believe. Yes he couldn't hit a century/fifty on debut, but give him more time, he is young and his primary duty is wicketkeeping.

[W63L35]

Yes.. it is a very good move because no part-time keeper will drop as many catches as Kamran.

Even Part timers like Dravid or AB de Villiers are 100 times better than kamran.

[saamry]

Originally Posted by Saj With Umar Akmal the only "wicketkeeper" selected for the T20 matches in New Zealand, do you think the selectors are taking a risk or is it the right move?

I think that PCB is positioning Umar to move over as an ODI keeper if he worksout as a T20 keeper.

Losing Kamran is a big problem that he solved the opener issue in ODI. Hopefully, Umar can fill in even in ODI.

[MR__KHAN__JI]

STUPIDITY OF THE HiGHEST ORDER!!!!!!!!

CAREER RUINING!!!!!!!!!!!

[MRSN]

Originally Posted by W63L35 Yes.. it is a very good move because no part-time keeper will drop as many catches as Kamran. Even Part timers like Dravid or AB de Villiers are 100 times better than kamran.

how will he keep behind the wickets ,when spinners will start operating it will be fun NO it will be JOKE

[Tay'yab-Ali Malik]

other than Kamran i'm afraid we do not have any quality batsmen/keeper in Pak for limited overs cricket.
What was the point of picking Zulquaranain if he was going to bat at 8/9 number ?

UA keeping will allow us to play xtra batsmen or bowler....if he can do a reasonable job and if Kamaran is still not cleared by the WC then UA will have to do

[anakwalajinn]

Yes it is a good move. Good to see Pakistani trying different things instead of going by the "textbook" all the time

[billllal]

he already keep in domestic, infact he was a keeper to start, was told to work hard on his batting by kamran

[MR__KHAN__JI]

CANT BELIEVE THE POLL RESULTS!

Can we have the poll updated to include


Adnan
Sarfaraz
Zoni

[MRSN]

so if he drops one catch,you all will be calling for his head.Goodluck

[Markhor]

Originally Posted by M Nadeem so if he drops one catch,you all will be calling for his head.Goodluck

No.Only you are thinking that.

[MRSN]

Originally Posted by Markhor No.Only you are thinking that.

You will see yourself.

[Markhor]

Well let's hope not.I hope people give him a chance and lets not make knee-jerk reactions the moment he drops a catch.

Sometimes a player has to take one for the team and if that means accommodate him as a keeper then so be it.

[aamerfan]

lets see this through before we say its right and wrong

might be good for jr

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Originally Posted by aamerfan lets see this through before we say its right and wrong might be good for jr

Its wrong!

[aamerfan]

Originally Posted by MR__KHAN__JI Its wrong!

how do you know??

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Originally Posted by aamerfan how do you know??

Cos i know what right!

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/con...ds/282827.html

[saamry]

having Umar keep in T20 and possibly in ODI would be a good move, as long as he can do a decent job with spinners.

Indian enjoy a great keeper/ batsman. Same with UK and other countries. Now a days you do not have the luxury of keeper not be a decent bat.

We have to have a batsman keeper for worldcup. If Umar does well in T20, i say move him in ODI as keeper soon after to get ready for worldcup.

[Atif]

This move has got its benefits but also downside.

Benefit: Pakistan can play extra batsmen or a bowler
Downside: Umar Akmal is a good fielder, will be hard to replace him with someone who hasbetter fielding skills.

[Impala_KaifTamasha]

Good Move

Should also keep in ODIs

[chui_kadoo]

Its about time I say. In ODI and T20 u can go in with Umar Akmal. Hes not bad behind the stumps. Its also creates another spot in the team. U can go with an extra bowler If u wish

[FastBowler]

no because umar akmal is very bad behind the stumps probably the worst keeper i have ever seen

why not younus khan? he was far better than umar akmal

[anakwalajinn]

Originally Posted by FastBowler no because umar akmal is very bad behind the stumps probably the worst keeper i have ever seen why not younus khan? he was far better than umar akmal

How is he bad? If I am not mistaken he did not make a single mistake when he kept the last time, or vs England. To be honest he has been quite impressive

[Gollum]

i'm absolutely ok with a part timer for T20, but not ODI...

[Desire]

i think its alright for t20 but problem for UA is if he is little bit successful, everyone will expect him to be perfect that will put more pressure on him and he will focus more on keeping. his batting can suffer in long time. UA has yet to establish his career as a batsman. he could end up "jack of all trades, master of none" like shoaib malik or shahid afridi type. are we willing to sacrifice a batsman to get a part time keeper? may be UA can manage it for a series or two but certainly not for long term.

[FastBowler]

Originally Posted by anakwalajinn How is he bad? If I am not mistaken he did not make a single mistake when he kept the last time, or vs England. To be honest he has been quite impressive

you must be mistaken. he can't collect throws cleanly, he actually ran backwards from a faster ball by Afridi, he's scared of hard throws and quick balls and his technique makes Kamran look like Godfrey Evans

[anakwalajinn]

Originally Posted by FastBowler you must be mistaken. he can't collect throws cleanly, he actually ran backwards from a faster ball by Afridi, he's scared of hard throws and quick balls and his technique makes Kamran look like Godfrey Evans

Hm... I must admit I did not keep an eye on him all the time. But he was flexible & decent from time to time. Anyway I still beleive we should try that in all the three T20's

[Wised up]

In t20, yes, ODIS and TESTS->NO!

[kkmix]

Not just T20s, but I think we can even go with Umar as keeper in ODIs.

[saamry]

becuse Umar can keep, it will allow us to add another batsman and i think that is the reason why Afridi is thinking about opening the game.

1. Afirdi in fact can open in sub continent pitches.

2. we will have another batsman

3. Tanvir is another all rounder who can hit the ball hard at the end of the inning.


Also, Pak does extremely well at the end of the inning when power play is on, but so well in the begining that is why they can maximize thier scors.

I say that Pak's coaching staff ( i wonder how much Javed is doing this) is doing well with thinking about the game plan.

[JibranAnsari]

fawad should keep , he doesnt have any other role in t20..kya khyal he?

[kingusama92]

This is a sound decision ONLY if its for the T20 form of the game.

Umar Akmal should NOT be keeping in the other two formats. Its a risk not worth taking especially in tests - which I am sure they won't. Adnan Akmal looks like he will be the test keeper in the near future, which is fair since he's a legitimate keeper.

I have a feeling Umar Akmal will be given the gloves in the ODI series. I don't see that working out. It will add a ton of pressure on the youngster and it could destroy him mentally. It'll be interesting to see how he develops.

[kkmix]

Last ODI against South Africa, he played as a wicket keeper batsman and did pretty good, so we can give him a chance in ODIs too.

[Decipher]

T20 is nothing but ALL batsmen's game. Wouldn't hurt to have an extra slugger if UA can keep the wickets.

[W63L35]

Originally Posted by MR__KHAN__JI STUPIDITY OF THE HiGHEST ORDER!!!!!!!!

I know, 9 people who voted "No".... are the biggest cricket experts ....... but what would you call 78 people who AGREE with the "stupidity of highest order"?

[pak-admirer]

kamran is still the best choice

too many slow batsmen in the potential T20 XI, eg. YK, Misbah, Fawad (imo in T20 there is no need for too many players who consolidate and rebuild the innings unless the scorecard reads 10/4 or something)

kamran would have been good choice if allowed to play, it adds another fluent stroke-maker in the line-up

[W63L35]

Originally Posted by pak-admirer kamran is still the best choice too many slow batsmen in the potential T20 XI, eg. YK, Misbah, Fawad (imo in T20 there is no need for too many players who consolidate and rebuild the innings unless the scorecard reads 10/4 or something) kamran would have been good choice if allowed to play, it adds another fluent stroke-maker in the line-up

Any comment on 100s of catches he has dropped or will drop, if selected?

[FastBowler]

kamran should be playing instead of his brother
kamran is a better batsman and a better keeper

[W63L35]

Originally Posted by FastBowler kamran should be playing instead of his brother kamran is a better batsman and a better keeper

Can you find me such an evidence of "better keeping" by any other keeper?

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...4&postcount=40

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...5&postcount=86

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...6&postcount=88

[Decipher]

If no one else then plz keep in mind that Rashid Lateef has NOT yet retired from international cricket. Lets hope he get a recall.

[PB]

Originally Posted by FastBowler kamran should be playing instead of his brother kamran is a better batsman and a better keeper

No hes not.

[pak-admirer]

Originally Posted by W63L35 Any comment on 100s of catches he has dropped or will drop, if selected?

but its t20, dropped catches are more costly in odi's and esp test matches

how many catches has he dropped that cost pak a t20 match?

[W63L35]

Originally Posted by pak-admirer how many catches has he dropped that cost pak a t20 match?

So.... you are saying that he purposely drops catches in ODIs and Tests but then purposely does not drop catches in T20?

[Inherent Ignorance]

Probably not a good idea. Catches win matches.

[pak-admirer]

Originally Posted by W63L35 So.... you are saying that he purposely drops catches in ODIs and Tests but then purposely does not drop catches in T20?

i don't know about purposely dropping catches, all i recall is that his poor catching cost pak many test matches i.e. Sydney test

but i don't remember him costing pakistan a t20 match bcoz of his poor catching

and that's my opininon why he should be in t20 team whether as a spec batsman or wk-batsman, but he is a must bcoz I believe he's a much better option than shahzaib, yk, fawad and misbah

[dinakar]

T20 cannot afford a non-batting specialist keeper, hence no problem in going with a part-timer if can do the minimum job. anyways, keepers won't be much tested in T20s.

[jeetu]

during 1999 WC , Rahul Dravid played as keeper-batsman , but that was due to the fact that there was no alrounder in Indian team.
Pakistan already has Afridi and Razzak.

[pakcricketfan]

Kami is the best choice for LOIs. Since he is unavailable, it is better to have a part-time keeper rather than Adnan Akmal. Playing Adnan would lengthen our tail.

So it's a good move, as long as it does not affect Umar Akmal's batting or fitness.