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Old 12th December 2010, 02:41
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Bomb Blast in Stockholm, Sweden.

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...mbs-explosions

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News agency says it received email warning linking threat against Swedish population to military presence in Afghanistan

At least one person was killed and two were injured yesterday in two explosions in central Stockholm that caused panic among Christmas shoppers.

A Swedish news agency said it had received an email warning, ahead of the explosions, in which a threat made against Sweden and its population was linked to the country's military presence in Afghanistan.

The TT agency said the warning, which comprised sound files in Swedish and Arabic, was also sent to Sweden's security police (SAPO) and was received 10 minutes before the blasts.

It also referred to caricatures of the prophet Mohammed by Swedish artist Lars Vilks, who became the subject of death threats and at least one assassination plot after cartoons appeared in a Danish newspaper.
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Old 12th December 2010, 02:46
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Old 12th December 2010, 03:03
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One always hopes no innocent people were harmed.
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Old 12th December 2010, 03:33
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Eyewitnesses have told of the moment an apparent suicide bomber blew himself up just a stone's throw from Stockholm's busiest shopping street on Saturday.

"We were scared to death," said one local resident.

The man died on the intersection of the Drottninggatan thoroughfare and Bryggargatan, a side street.

An eyewitness interviewed by the Dagens Nyheter newspaper (DN) said something appeared to have blown up against the man’s abdomen.

“He had no injuries to his face or the rest of his body and the shops around him were not damaged,” he said.

The eyewitness, a paramedic identified only as Pascal, said he removed a ‘Palestinian scarf’ from the man’s face in an attempt to free up his airways. Next to the man’s body was a two-metre piece of metal piping.

Other eyewitness at the scene said the man shouted something in Arabic before the bomb detonated, according to newspaper Aftonbladet.

Aftonbladet also quoted local resident Tarja, who was at home close to where the bomb went off:

“The whole house shook. We were scared to death and went outside, where we saw a dead person on the street. There were paramedics and police there but they weren’t doing anything,” she said.

A shopworker from a store on Drottninggatan said she “heard a huge bang, then people ran down Drottninggatan. We then closed the store, and the street became completely empty.”
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Old 12th December 2010, 03:58
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is int Sweden one of the most peaceful countries in the world ?
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Old 12th December 2010, 04:03
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^ not anymore, but why do they have to link everything to muslims.
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Old 12th December 2010, 04:07
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I fully condemn this act of sheer cowardice.

Not only innocent people are hurt but many good and peace loving Muslims who have left their homelands to seek refuge in peace in Sweeden may now be prone to lots of scrutiny.

I hope whoever is involved behind this heinous act will be brought to justice !!
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Old 12th December 2010, 04:13
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Oh man! Already, readers comments against Muslims in Sweden is getting a bit heated. Read http://www.stockholmnews.com/more.aspx?NID=6412
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Old 12th December 2010, 04:16
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Why are these people so upset at the west? When did we ever do anything to hurt any of them? We are even trying to bring freedom to them right now in Iraq and Afghanestan. And this is how they pay us back.

LMAO!
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Old 12th December 2010, 04:18
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Whats sad is even in Canada, which we regard as largely multicultural and tolerant, readers comments have been disturbing!

Checkout the liberal Globe&Mail newspaper comments http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...4477/comments/
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Old 12th December 2010, 04:36
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Ignorance has no borders my friend, sometimes people act a certain way in your face and another when you're not there. These things are to be expected, ITguy.
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Old 12th December 2010, 04:47
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Thank God no one was harmed... can you imagine the devastation this would have caused for the peace loving muslims living in Europe living day to day lives? This is the sheer act of cowardice that I was referring to MalikMohsin if you're reading this.... as you were confused whether this is terrorism or freedom fighting... targeting innocent men, women n kids doing xmas shopping on a busy intersection is NOT freedom fighting....this is terrorism...and moderate muslims need to stand up and make a stand against this barbaric thought process
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Old 12th December 2010, 05:07
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Thank God no one was harmed...
The toll is one dead and two injured so far.
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Old 12th December 2010, 05:28
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I wish there is a wikileaks about this issue.
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Old 12th December 2010, 11:31
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The toll is one dead and two injured so far.

The one dead is the bomber himself so no great loss.

Thank God no innocents were killed.
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Old 12th December 2010, 12:15
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Why are these people so upset at the west? When did we ever do anything to hurt any of them? We are even trying to bring freedom to them right now in Iraq and Afghanestan. And this is how they pay us back.

LMAO!
Lol at this idiot Sammy.
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It's funny how they always get e-mails before the bombing in "Western" and countries like India. How come Muslims countries don't get such e-mails before bombing?........how ironic and stupid.

This sounds like another fake story like US firecracker plot etc.

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Old 12th December 2010, 16:09
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sad ...i hope they catch all the idiots who planned it ...
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The suicide bomber who killed himself in Stockholm terrorist blasts named locally as Taimour Abdulwahab Al-Abdaly studied at British university. A Facebook page thought to belong to the 29-year-old indicated that he studied sports therapy at the University of Bedfordshire in Luton.



Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz17vPCCe2y
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Old 12th December 2010, 19:01
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I don't know when they will learn that suicide is haram, whoever is telling them to do this doesn't know anything about Islam. Nothing good can be achieved through haram.
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Old 12th December 2010, 19:26
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I don't know when they will learn that suicide is haram, whoever is telling them to do this doesn't know anything about Islam. Nothing good can be achieved through haram.
Which makes all of these suicide bombings so perplexing.

They supposedly do it in the name of Islam, but Islam clearly states suicide is wrong.
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Old 12th December 2010, 20:24
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I don't know when they will learn that suicide is haram, whoever is telling them to do this doesn't know anything about Islam. Nothing good can be achieved through haram.
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Old 12th December 2010, 20:34
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How long till Pakistan gets blamed?

R.i.P to victims
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Old 12th December 2010, 21:07
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Isn't that the home of Julian Assange?

Interesting the suicide bomber sent a warning via e-mail, this must be first.
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Old 12th December 2010, 21:11
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The suicide bomber who killed himself in Stockholm terrorist blasts named locally as Taimour Abdulwahab Al-Abdaly studied at British university. A Facebook page thought to belong to the 29-year-old indicated that he studied sports therapy at the University of Bedfordshire in Luton.



Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz17vPCCe2y
Another Arab i believe ? For which they will bomb another South Asia/Central Asian Muslim country ?
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Old 12th December 2010, 21:14
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R.i.P to victims
2 days my guess

he was trained in NWFP by TTP- times

he had links with the ISI- STAR NEWS(india)

he visited pakistan 1 month ago- CNN

he was hafiz saeeds friend-NDTV (india)

he was wearing pakistani cricket teams shirt on the day of suicide-THE HINDU

he was shouting pakistan zindabad instend of allah akbar when he was about to explode says parkesh sena who is a eye witness -NDTV (india)
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2 days my guess

he was trained in NWFP by TTP- times

he had links with the ISI- STAR NEWS(india)

he visited pakistan 1 month ago- CNN

he was hafiz saeeds friend-NDTV (india)

he was wearing pakistani cricket teams shirt on the day of suicide-THE HINDU


he was shouting pakistan zindabad instend of allah akbar when he was about to explode says parkesh sena who is a eye witness -NDTV (india)
THIS will get PAkistani team , in fact , PCB banned from world cricket
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Old 12th December 2010, 21:59
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Thank God no one was harmed... can you imagine the devastation this would have caused for the peace loving muslims living in Europe living day to day lives? This is the sheer act of cowardice that I was referring to MalikMohsin if you're reading this.... as you were confused whether this is terrorism or freedom fighting... targeting innocent men, women n kids doing xmas shopping on a busy intersection is NOT freedom fighting....this is terrorism...and moderate muslims need to stand up and make a stand against this barbaric thought process
Do you realize that more than Million people have died in Middle East, Asia at the hand of American soldiers. What do you expect from the nation that is left no choice, but to support some certain group that may or may not support terrorism. Soldiers are worse than terrorists, and even i have no respect for terrorism, and want terrorists should be hanged to death. But you forgot one important point, and that is society and how the nation project the method 'One is Terrorist is another to HERO'.

You want fact? Millions innocent people at the hand of US soldiers, in comparable to terrorists and they are not freedom fighters. Freedom fighters are the one who are fighting for Islam, and obviously, we haven't heard about them because they are not involved in suicide mission, and only the terrorists are, as being funded by foreign countries because terrorists show no respect for Islam, and most importantly, Friday in Mosque as what we have heard about bomb blast in Mosque so far.
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Old 12th December 2010, 23:03
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Do you realize that more than Million people have died in Middle East, Asia at the hand of American soldiers. What do you expect from the nation that is left no choice, but to support some certain group that may or may not support terrorism. Soldiers are worse than terrorists, and even i have no respect for terrorism, and want terrorists should be hanged to death. But you forgot one important point, and that is society and how the nation project the method 'One is Terrorist is another to HERO'.

You want fact? Millions innocent people at the hand of US soldiers, in comparable to terrorists and they are not freedom fighters. Freedom fighters are the one who are fighting for Islam, and obviously, we haven't heard about them because they are not involved in suicide mission, and only the terrorists are, as being funded by foreign countries because terrorists show no respect for Islam, and most importantly, Friday in Mosque as what we have heard about bomb blast in Mosque so far.
Still suicide is not the answer. Plus if you kill innocent people then where is the humanity in it let alone muslmaniyat.
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Still suicide is not the answer. Plus if you kill innocent people then where is the humanity in it let alone muslmaniyat.
That's why i said they are terrorists, and should placed in criminal category. People often confuse with freedom fighters, and there are some freedom fighters we don't know, fighting for Islam.

I am trying to explain as per according to the situation back in Middle East and Asia. Million people have died at the hands of soldiers, and therefore, that breaks the credibility of soldiers status, and hence, the arise of terrorists sadly. The day US armies leave Middle East and Asia, the day the terrorism will die quickly by itself.
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now people will hate muslims more in stockholm atleast for a time being. sweden was only one place on planet earth that was safe from these activities.
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I live in Stockholm Actually.. its not such a big deal at all here. People arent really concerned... the matter of fact is swedes are not into politics at all and usually get on with your life sort of individuals. A terrorist attack - ok - how dreadfull - but I got my 9-5 job tommorow- gotta hit the bed - sort of people. However, it does come as a big shock since Sweden is one of the most peacefull countries in the world.
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Good job by the chairman of the mosque in trying to counter this man's twisted ideology. It's a shame the bomber did not listen.


Stockholm bomber was thrown out of Luton mosque for trying to recruit extremists
The Stockholm bomber was thrown out of a mosque in Luton three years ago following a row over his extremist beliefs, it has emerged.


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Taimur Abdulwahab al-Abdaly, 28, tried to recruit other Muslims to share his fanatical views when he was given a chance to preach at the Luton Islamic Centre.

Sources there said he then turned his attention to trying to recruit students by giving sermons at the Islamic Society of the University of Bedfordshire, of which he was a graduate.

On Saturday Abdulwahab set off a car bomb in a busy shopping street in Stockholm before blowing himself up, injuring two people. Police in Sweden are hunting for associates who they believe helped plan the attack.

The suspect, who was wearing a belt with explosives, carried out the bombing alone but investigators "have to assume he worked with several people," chief prosecutor Tomas Lindstrand said.

"According to our experience, there are usually many people involved in such situations," he said.

Qadeer Baksh, chairman of the Luton Islamic Centre, also known as the Al Ghurabaa mosque, said the bomber believed Western governments had no right to involve themselves in Iraq or Afghanistan and urged others to "take matters into their own hands" because traditional mosques were not proactive enough.

Mr Baksh said: “He arrived at the mosque at the start of Ramadan [the Muslim holy month of fasting] in 2007.

"We hadn't seen him before but he was very nice, a gentle, bubbly character. People liked him and he was very helpful to them.

"He was like that for a couple of weeks and he was given the opportunity to preach.

"Some of the members brought it to my attention that his views were extreme so I challenged him.

"It was all about Iraq and Afghanistan. He was saying that Western governments had no right to be there and how too many Muslims remained silent.

"He said we should be more proactive and take matters into our own hands but he never directly advocated violence.

"He said the leaders of Muslim nations had to take more action and said scholars here were working for the government.

"It was quite serious because some of the worshippers were starting to really listen to him.

"I talked to him and went through his arguments and countered all of them theologically and he accepted it. I thought that was the end of it but he carried on.

"So one day, before the end of Ramadan, when the mosque was full I directly challenged all his misinterpretations of Islam.

"He just stood up and stormed out. We never saw him again - but I heard he'd gone to the Islamic Society at the university and continued to preach his extremist views."

The mosque has been linked in the past to extremist groups including Al-Muhajiroun, the banned organisation which was headed by the firebrand cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed.

Mr Baksh said that the mosque remained vigilant against infiltration from organised extremist groups.

He said: "We removed them from our mosque. We are sick of them.

"We see them as problematic. They have a completely distorted view of Islam."

Meanwhile, it has also emerged that Abdulwahab sent a chilling audio recording in English shortly before the bombings warning his actions would "speak for themselves".

A man is heard describing the Islamic state as a "reality" in Europe and in Sweden.

He spoke hurriedly but calmly and quietly and cleared his voice several times during the message that lasted less than a minute.

The recording states: "Now the Islamic state has been created. We now exist here in Europe and in Sweden. We are a reality. I don't want to say more about this. Our actions will speak for themselves."

He added: "We are not a lie, or imagination. We are real."

He also referred to the depiction of the prophet Mohammed with the body of a dog in a 2007 cartoon by a Swedish artist which enraged many Muslims.

He said: "Stop your drawings of our prophet...No more oppression against Islam or Muslims will be tolerated in any way or by any means."

The bomber, who was due to turn 29 on Sunday, had a wife and three young children who still live in Luton. Neighbours said they had seen him in the town as little as two and a half weeks ago.

The former physical therapy student attended Bedfordshire University in Luton. He was born in Iraq and moved with his family to Sweden at the age of 11.
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Old 13th December 2010, 19:42
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^ not anymore, but why do they have to link everything to muslims.
The newspaper have confirmed that the person involved was of Muslim faith and now they are questioning his wife. The person's name was Wahab.
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That's why i said they are terrorists, and should placed in criminal category. People often confuse with freedom fighters, and there are some freedom fighters we don't know, fighting for Islam.

I am trying to explain as per according to the situation back in Middle East and Asia. Million people have died at the hands of soldiers, and therefore, that breaks the credibility of soldiers status, and hence, the arise of terrorists sadly. The day US armies leave Middle East and Asia, the day the terrorism will die quickly by itself.
One can kill the terrorist but killing the mindset of a terrorist is not easy. BTW which freedom fighters are you referring to? I do not see any freedom struggle going on anywhere.

When you follow the footsteps of those who have showed you to kill people simply because they do not agree with you then you will see people killing each other. Do more research and understand the ideology and mindset of these terrorists and to which school of thought they belong to. You will get all your answers.
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Which makes all of these suicide bombings so perplexing.

They supposedly do it in the name of Islam, but Islam clearly states suicide is wrong.
honestly...it's like getting a stripper to raise funds for Muslim refugees and then taking interest for it...it's just WRONG
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Why are these people so upset at the west? When did we ever do anything to hurt any of them? We are even trying to bring freedom to them right now in Iraq and Afghanestan. And this is how they pay us back.

LMAO!
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That'l scare the swedes off from invading another country, being americas best friend and helping them to kill innocent people.
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A Swedish Armed Forces (Försvarsmakten) employee warned an acquaintance to stay clear of an area in central Stockholm on Saturday where, several hours later, two explosions went off in what is being called a terrorist attack.

* Stockholm attack follows terror warnings (12 Dec 10)
* Witnesses tell of Stockholm bomb terror (11 Dec 10)
* One dead after suicide bombing in Stockholm (11 Dec 10)

“If you can, avoid Drottninggatan today. A lot can happen there…just so you know,” the message said, according to the TT news agency.

Armed Forces spokesperson Jonas Svensson told TT on Sunday he was unaware of the message.

“I haven’t heard about this at all. Now I’m going to check out the information,” he told TT when confronted with the news.

Later the Swedish military said it was now “preparing how the issue will be dealt with”.

“The Swedish Armed Forces did not know ahead of time about the plans or the circumstances surrounding the events which have taken place. If that had been the case, (Swedish security service) Säpo, which is the responsible agency in these types of cases, would have been informed immediately,” said military spokesperson Erik Lagersten in a statement.

Swedish intelligence agencies may have known that something was in the works, Wilhelm Agrell, a professor in intelligence analysis, told TT.

“A warning is a slippery term and nothing concrete. Warnings can consist of very precise information that can be acted on, but it’s common that warnings are more diffuse and can’t be acted on,” Agrell said.

On Saturday night, TT spoke with John Daniels, head of security for Swedish military intelligence agency MUST. But he refused to comment, instead directing all inquiries to Säpo.

Säpo said on Sunday it was taking over the investigation of the two blasts, which occurred within minutes of one another and about 200 metres apart on Drottninggatan, a busy shopping street in central Stockholm.

The agency considers the explosions to be a terrorist crime.

One man believed to be a suicide bomber was killed in the second blast, while the first explosion injured two others.

Shortly before the explosions, Säpo and the TT news agency received a message from a 29-year-old man from southern Sweden who claimed that the prophet Mohammed was being degraded.
http://www.thelocal.se/30794/20101212/

So just like 9/11 and 7/7 the bomber was known to the authorities and it seems here people were warned to stay clear.

Nice false flag Sweden.
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Idiot. "fighting for their freedom"
C'mon, that had my sides splitting. That guy must live the most sheltered life in the whole world to think anyone is doing Muslims a favour. But what can you expect, some Westerners have this mentality that everyone else is stupid and only they can do anything (see: Orientalism).

Most of Europe, barring the UK, is massively racist and xenophobic, I feel. Headscarf bans, Minaret bans, Propaganda films, I can't even tell who the terrorists are anymore!
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Do you realize that more than Million people have died in Middle East, Asia at the hand of American soldiers. What do you expect from the nation that is left no choice, but to support some certain group that may or may not support terrorism. Soldiers are worse than terrorists, and even i have no respect for terrorism, and want terrorists should be hanged to death. But you forgot one important point, and that is society and how the nation project the method 'One is Terrorist is another to HERO'.

You want fact? Millions innocent people at the hand of US soldiers, in comparable to terrorists and they are not freedom fighters. Freedom fighters are the one who are fighting for Islam, and obviously, we haven't heard about them because they are not involved in suicide mission, and only the terrorists are, as being funded by foreign countries because terrorists show no respect for Islam, and most importantly, Friday in Mosque as what we have heard about bomb blast in Mosque so far.
Wow. You are a fool. Do you believe everything you read too?

Also, prove millions of innocent people dying at the hands of US soldiers?
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Wow. You are a fool. Do you believe everything you read too?

Also, prove millions of innocent people dying at the hands of US soldiers?
I can say the same thing about that. Beside, I didn't expect some members here to believe me, and considering ever since, US invaded Middle East, Asia, and hence, more than million people have died so far. It's ironic how US has improved the weapon sales so far, and i am fool thinking that that Palestine Muslim are dying at Israel soldiers, supported by US. You know what? That wasn't Israel soldiers, and that was Taliban killing babies, children, women in Palestine. You are right about that.
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One can kill the terrorist but killing the mindset of a terrorist is not easy. BTW which freedom fighters are you referring to? I do not see any freedom struggle going on anywhere.

When you follow the footsteps of those who have showed you to kill people simply because they do not agree with you then you will see people killing each other. Do more research and understand the ideology and mindset of these terrorists and to which school of thought they belong to. You will get all your answers.
That wasn't there until US has invaded in Middle East, Asia. Hence, the arise of terrorists out of nowhere, and US has improved the sales of weapon drastically. Think!

If anything, someone is trying to fund the terrorists and promote that to destabilize some Muslim countries. I agree that at the end, it is still our people fault for selling themselves to enter in terrorist business only for some couple bucks. If we want to end the terrorism, then US has to leave, and i guess some Muslim countries have to suffer because of obsession with oil, gold...etc.
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I can say the same thing about that. Beside, I didn't expect some members here to believe me, and considering ever since, US invaded Middle East, Asia, and hence, more than million people have died so far. It's ironic how US has improved the weapon sales so far, and i am fool thinking that that Palestine Muslim are dying at Israel soldiers, supported by US. You know what? That wasn't Israel soldiers, and that was Taliban killing babies, children, women in Palestine. You are right about that.
Nice mix of random stuff there. Move to the real world.
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Wow. You are a fool. Do you believe everything you read too?

Also, prove millions of innocent people dying at the hands of US soldiers?
How many Iraqis were slain by NATO forces? Do you think they deserved to die?
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Sorry to burst your bubble but the wikileaks have pretty evidently shown the number of innocent lives lost but the matter of fact is, as stated very clearly in this forum above, the western forces are clearly creating a far more unstable environment in the Iraq,Afgh, Pak, which is only increasing the number of terrorist attacks. In addition to that, I fail to comprehend how people can not see that the war is burdening the economic stability of Pakistan which is leading to devastating effects on the population.
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Wow. You are a fool. Do you believe everything you read too?

Also, prove millions of innocent people dying at the hands of US soldiers?
I don't necessarily agree with MalikMohsin's full post, but regarding soldiers and terrorists, somebody once said that war is the terrorism of the rich, and terrorism is the war of the poor. Pretty salient point I reckon. In any case the Americans in Iraq, Afghanistan don't deserve much sympathy
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C'mon, that had my sides splitting. That guy must live the most sheltered life in the whole world to think anyone is doing Muslims a favour. But what can you expect, some Westerners have this mentality that everyone else is stupid and only they can do anything (see: Orientalism).

Most of Europe, barring the UK, is massively racist and xenophobic, I feel. Headscarf bans, Minaret bans, Propaganda films, I can't even tell who the terrorists are anymore!
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Nice mix of random stuff there. Move to the real world.
Where is the Real World Bro???

The World BBC, CNN, Skynews Show, Is not the full of Real World. Because, they Skip 50% of Truths to show things as they want to show you. And You people Blindly believe them as You guys think, you are the Educated people coming through from most Advancedal Educational System. Be Happy with your Real World Bro.. And keep Scaring of Real Pakistan..
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Yah, America is just pure evil, right guys?
Where were your voices when your Saddam was ruthlessly torturing and murdering people left and right? Where is your voice when Shias in Parachinar are being completely exterminated?
Hypocrisy at its best. Not saying America is completely innocent. In fact it's not. But the reactions are very contrasting from big part of the Muslim community.
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Do you realize that more than Million people have died in Middle East, Asia at the hand of American soldiers. What do you expect from the nation that is left no choice, but to support some certain group that may or may not support terrorism. Soldiers are worse than terrorists, and even i have no respect for terrorism, and want terrorists should be hanged to death. But you forgot one important point, and that is society and how the nation project the method 'One is Terrorist is another to HERO'.

You want fact? Millions innocent people at the hand of US soldiers, in comparable to terrorists and they are not freedom fighters. Freedom fighters are the one who are fighting for Islam, and obviously, we haven't heard about them because they are not involved in suicide mission, and only the terrorists are, as being funded by foreign countries because terrorists show no respect for Islam, and most importantly, Friday in Mosque as what we have heard about bomb blast in Mosque so far.
ARE you serious? What kind of garbage are you reading daily?

1st of all where did you get the number "million" people died at the hands of US soldiers???? Do u ever read of interaction between soldiers and the local community? ever read about the computer classes conducted for free by the US army? what about scholarships offered by the US govt to local iraqis to join trade schools? built science academy for girls? Off course you will neither hear or read any of this because you're inherently biased and believe all evil has been caused by the US army.

2nd of all, how come you never protested when Saddam and his sons were killing and raping local Iraqis just for pleasure? Where was the protest when Taliban was destroying the very fundamentals of Islam in Afghanistan? where was your protest when Pakistani army killed over a million (estimated) in Bangladesh? Where is your protest when Sunnis bomb Shias on a daily basis?

Fight for Islam -- what is this? the new tagline to recruit jihadis?? Islam has been coexisting with Christians and Jews for a 1000 yrs in Europe (west)

3rd of all, Why are you so concerned about Palestinians and not concerned what's happening in Your country? Palestinians have more in common with Israelis than Pakistanis....get that in your head. Keep blaming everyone else but yourself.
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ARE you serious? What kind of garbage are you reading daily?

1st of all where did you get the number "million" people died at the hands of US soldiers???? Do u ever read of interaction between soldiers and the local community? ever read about the computer classes conducted for free by the US army? what about scholarships offered by the US govt to local iraqis to join trade schools? built science academy for girls? Off course you will neither hear or read any of this because you're inherently biased and believe all evil has been caused by the US army.

2nd of all, how come you never protested when Saddam and his sons were killing and raping local Iraqis just for pleasure? Where was the protest when Taliban was destroying the very fundamentals of Islam in Afghanistan? where was your protest when Pakistani army killed over a million (estimated) in Bangladesh? Where is your protest when Sunnis bomb Shias on a daily basis?

Fight for Islam -- what is this? the new tagline to recruit jihadis?? Islam has been coexisting with Christians and Jews for a 1000 yrs in Europe (west)

3rd of all, Why are you so concerned about Palestinians and not concerned what's happening in Your country? Palestinians have more in common with Israelis than Pakistanis....get that in your head. Keep blaming everyone else but yourself.
Oopppss... An Agent Of US soldiers is a Member of PP.. Great

US soldiers Helping People? And Have not killed a single human in Afghanistan or Iraq. Then Who killed those millions of Innocent People Who Raped our Thousands of Innocent Muslim Sisters and Mother?
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2 days my guess

he was trained in nwfp by ttp- times

he had links with the isi- star news(india)

he visited pakistan 1 month ago- cnn

he was hafiz saeeds friend-ndtv (india)

he was wearing pakistani cricket teams shirt on the day of suicide-the hindu

he was shouting pakistan zindabad instend of allah akbar when he was about to explode says parkesh sena who is a eye witness -ndtv (india)
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Oopppss... An Agent Of US soldiers is a Member of PP.. Great

US soldiers Helping People? And Have not killed a single human in Afghanistan or Iraq. Then Who killed those millions of Innocent People Who Raped our Thousands of Innocent Muslim Sisters and Mother?


I am not going to even dignify that comment. Apparently you try to see things from both sides of the coin makes you an American agent...then what would you call the number of muslim leaders all over middle east who plays golf with the American Elite on a daily basis?

And where did you get "thousands of innocent muslim sisters and mother getting raped" from? And when did I ever say American soldiers are all saints? They are no different than every army in the HISTORY of mankind causing loot/rape/kill in the name of war

Have you ever wondered how many muslim sisters and mothers did your army kill/rape in my country? How many self styled caretakers of Islam use the name of Islam to cause harm to our own people?
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2 days my guess

he was trained in NWFP by TTP- times

he had links with the ISI- STAR NEWS(india)

he visited pakistan 1 month ago- CNN

he was hafiz saeeds friend-NDTV (india)

he was wearing pakistani cricket teams shirt on the day of suicide-THE HINDU

he was shouting pakistan zindabad instend of allah akbar when he was about to explode says parkesh sena who is a eye witness -NDTV (india)
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Wow. You are a fool. Do you believe everything you read too?

Also, prove millions of innocent people dying at the hands of US soldiers?
lol irish aid workers here and infact aid workers all over will testify to it...rachel corrie remember her? the american girl who was bulldozed trying to protect a palestinian home from being bulldozed? wait your news probably didnt tell you that... eye witness acounts...theres so much your censored news channels dont tell you

i normally agree with all your posts...but it seems you have fallen into the typical propoganda that half of the islamophobic world has
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ARE you serious? What kind of garbage are you reading daily?

I am guessing you also believe Indian media that people in Kashmir are safe, and happy. No history of Genocide in Gujarat 2002 has taken place, Sikhs massacred, Orissa....and go on. For that, i read garbage article, but choose not to believe as i have brain, that provide the option of investigating the whole case, and present your case with evidence. I have been in Kashmir, and sadly, what India is doing, has totally become ignorant.




1st of all where did you get the number "million" people died at the hands of US soldiers???? Do u ever read of interaction between soldiers and the local community? ever read about the computer classes conducted for free by the US army? what about scholarships offered by the US govt to local iraqis to join trade schools? built science academy for girls? Off course you will neither hear or read any of this because you're inherently biased and believe all evil has been caused by the US army.


Sadly, That is an indictment of the western and Indian media.


2nd of all, how come you never protested when Saddam and his sons were killing and raping local Iraqis just for pleasure? Where was the protest when Taliban was destroying the very fundamentals of Islam in Afghanistan? where was your protest when Pakistani army killed over a million (estimated) in Bangladesh? Where is your protest when Sunnis bomb Shias on a daily basis?


I never protested? Let's see...I was kid back then. I am glad Saddam has received he deserved, but the whole nation didn't deserve for what the whole world has witnessed, and sadly, USA is there for business purpose, and i am sure you guys are at least informed this.

Destroying the very fundaments of Islam in Afghanistan? See, and that's an indictment of Western media and Indian media. Both Afghanistan and Pakistan were progressing, and very peace back then. Before the war on terror, and guess what? As soon as US invaded in Afghanistan, the rise of terrorists, daily bomb blast, drone,....etc out of nowhere, and US weapon sales has improved drastically out of nowhere. Pakistan and Afghanistan were heading to the right direction, and there were no bomb blast, well at least not regularly. Both countries conditions were better. However, with US invading in Afghanistan led the whole Afghanistan thinking that their arrival in Afghanistan would develop Afghanistan very developed country much faster, and instead, that brought Afghanistan to the dark age, and sadly, their mission for Pakistan is also same.



Fight for Islam -- what is this? the new tagline to recruit jihadis?? Islam has been coexisting with Christians and Jews for a 1000 yrs in Europe (west)

Read the Quran and you will have better understanding about Jihad. At least, read it for the sake of Indian Muslim living in India. You owe this to Indian Muslims.


3rd of all, Why are you so concerned about Palestinians and not concerned what's happening in Your country? Palestinians have more in common with Israelis than Pakistanis....get that in your head. Keep blaming everyone else but yourself.

What makes you think i am not concerned about the country i was born in? Are you trying to divert the topic now? For the last time, Pakistani and Palestine Muslim are no different, and they are brothers/sisters to me. Remember this, any nationalism Muslim are Muslim to me as much as any human being are human being to me.
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