ICC will hold a teleconference with the lawyers of the three suspended Pak players

[emclub]

The International Cricket Council will hold a teleconference on Tuesday with the lawyers of the three suspended Pakistani players, Salman Butt, Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Aamir.
The decision to have the teleconference was taken after Butt through his UK based lawyer, Yasin Patel requested the ICC to postpone the full hearing of the code of conduct commission tribunal scheduled for January 6 to 11 in Doha, Qatar.
"Butt has asked for an extension in the dates of the hearing that will decide basically the fate of the three players who are charged of involvement in spot-fixing by the ICC anti-corruption unit," one reliable source said.
He said that Butt's lawyer had taken the plea that the hearing should not be held until the Scotland Yard completes its investigations into the allegations made by Pakistani bookmaker, Mazhar Majeed about the player's involvement in spot-fixing.
Butt's lawyer has also taken the plea that the hearing should be held after the crown prosecutor's office in London delivers its verdict on the Scotland Yard investigations.
"The teleconference is being held with the players and their lawyers to consider and discuss the request of Butt and his lawyer since the other two players are also scheduled to attend the hearing in January," the source said.
He said that they were indications that the lawyers for the two other players were not keen on a postponement as they wanted a decision from the ICC tribunal as soon as possible.
All three players face life bans and heavy financial fines if the tribunal upholds the evidence provided by the anti-corruption unit of the ICC.
Butt, the former Test captain, has been at loggerheads with the ICC since the three were suspended in September while touring England and has also frequently changed his lawyers.
Recently, the ICC sent back his reply to the charges made out against him by the ICC ACU and asked him to submit a fresh reply.
(PTI) http://cricblitz.blogspot.com/2010/1...ence-with.html

[MOHAMMED_Umar]

ZONG! Sub Keh Do!

[Down2Earth]

well now they're delaying it themselves and what's the point, I thought the ICC already made its mind up

[Liverpool_Faizan]

this really is pathetic

FFS just get the trial over and done with. this is absolutely stupid that this is taking so long. this teleconference will hold to mean nothing.

its so frustrating how longg certain things can take in this world of ours.

[WhiteDudeFromTrinidad]

Originally Posted by Down2Earth well now they're delaying it themselves and what's the point, I thought the ICC already made its mind up

according to the article it's SB's lawyer who has resorted to the delaying tactic. The lawyers for the other two want to get on with it

won't be long until the trio are turning on each other imo

[MOHAMMED_Umar]

The Funny Part is, People here blame ICC for INTENTIONALLY Delaying the Hearing.

[yamibone]

Ok, so Butt's ploy here is to let scotland yard finish their investigations, deem insufficient evidence to initiate criminal proceedings against butt and this somehow would help his case against the ICC?

Just get it over with, the guy looks more guilty with every move he now makes

[NO 1 AFRIDI FAN]

II WONDER WHY PEOPLE BLAME THE ICC THEY SHOULD BLAME S.BUTT FOR DELAYING THE HEARING. CLEVER HIM.

[AZ]

if this is true, absolutely spot on, ICC should be made to cool their vigilante styled justice and actually produce some proper evidence.

let the people who actually know how to do their job first show their findings.

[AZ]

Originally Posted by yamibone Ok, so Butt's ploy here is to let scotland yard finish their investigations, deem insufficient evidence to initiate criminal proceedings against butt and this somehow would help his case against the ICC? Just get it over with, the guy looks more guilty with every move he now makes

umm...YES!

that's the whole friggin' point! you want to show someone is guilty, then PROVE it fully!

Bodylanguageology is not a tool to implement law.

[KingKhanWC]

Regardless of guilt a very good move by his lawyers. We know the ICC are desperate for a guilty verdict so it's only fair to play the ball game with them.

This might hurry up the prosecution who are not too conviced it seems otherwise they would have moved to the next phase.

[GOAT]

I don't even care anymore. Acquit em, ban em, just get it over with it already.

This circus has gone on long enough imo.

[emclub]

Originally Posted by LowkeyP I don't even care anymore. Acquit em, ban em, just get it over with it already. This circus has gone on long enough imo.

y did u change yr name

[AZ]

because of Bakra Eid.

[sanakazmi]

From the Express Tribune report on the same issue, I *think* Amir is not going to side with him on this one. Good news if true, distancing himself from Butt can only help his case.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/92379/ic...eleconference/ KARACHI: In a response to Salman Butt’s request to delay the spot-fixing hearing, the International Cricket Council (ICC) has called for a teleconference tomorrow that will involve the governing body as well as the trio’s lawyers. Earlier, Salman, through his British legal firm, sent a request to postpone the hearing until the submission of a final report by the Scotland Yard, which conducted an initial investigation with the players following a sting operation by the News of The World. An ICC official said that the body would hold a teleconference in which lawyers of all the three players would decide whether to delay the hearing, which is set to take place from January 6 to 11 in Doha. “The ICC would also like to hear from Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir’s lawyers since we got a postponement request from Salman’s counsel only,” said the official. “All three would be taken into confidence before any change in the hearing schedule.” Amir’s lawyer Shahid Karim confirmed that the teleconference will be held on Wednesday. Amir, Asif undecided over hearing schedule Both Asif and Amir are weighing their options as they consider the choice of a delay in hearing. “We are prepared but will look whether the delay would go in our favour. We will decide about it in due course,” said Amir’s lawyer Shahid Karim. Asif, who recently appointed Barrister Allan Alexander Cameron, brother of British Prime Minister David Cameron, was also undecided on his stance on the matter. “I would consult my lawyer before taking a decision on the postponement in the hearing schedule as I have no idea of its repercussions,” Asif told The Express Tribune. However, it has been learnt that Amir might oppose the delay in hearing as he was looking for an early decision to the matter. According to officials close to the case, the young left-arm fast bowler has hopes of getting leniency from the ICC given his age and inexperience. The fast-bowler is also optimistic of his chances to play in the World Cup and may oppose the delay in the hearing delay which might get rescheduled after the global event. Published in The Express Tribune, December 21st, 2010.

[AZ]

I can see what Amir's thinking, with the WC selection and all.

but a glance at and 's situations, and one just knows that its just not gonna happen.

[KingKhanWC]

Too late for Amir now. He should have distanced himself on day 1.

[saeed-sohail]

Not bothered about this after finding out we are a very beautifully clean team NOW.

[emclub]

Originally Posted by saeed-sohail Not bothered about this about this after finding out we are a very beautifully clean team NOW.

ha

[Rana]

Originally Posted by saeed-sohail Not bothered about this about this after finding out we are a very beautifully clean team NOW.

erm, Ijaz Ahmed is a coach?

[yamibone]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar umm...YES! that's the whole friggin' point! you want to show someone is guilty, then PROVE it fully! Bodylanguageology is not a tool to implement law.

So what you're saying is if Scotland Yard has no case against them, it means they are innocent and ICC should let them free?

[hasanmehmoodkhan]

delaying is not in favor of butt

[AZ]

Originally Posted by yamibone So what you're saying is if Scotland Yard has no case against them, it means they are innocent and ICC should let them free?

yes, because SY are not out to make political judgments, and are not as obviously biased as the ICC.

[emclub]

Originally Posted by Rana erm, Ijaz Ahmed is a coach?

if ijaz wasnt clean so was waqar

[pinger]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar if this is true, absolutely spot on, ICC should be made to cool their vigilante styled justice and actually produce some proper evidence. let the people who actually know how to do their job first show their findings.

Umm, the ICC is ready to present it's evidence and to listen to the defence. Then they will make their decision.

[AZ]

will it be the right decision, and not made in haste and full of political undertones?

that is the real, and very valid concern.

[yamibone]

Originally Posted by Ahmed Zulfiqar yes, because SY are not out to make political judgments, and are not as obviously biased as the ICC.

As has been discussed many times on this board the fact that there is not concrete evidence of criminal activity meaning SY cannot throw the trio in jail doesn't mean no wrong doing has occured. SY care little about cricket than they do about upholding their laws. They care more about the illegal fixed bets and the money that was exchanged rather than the 3 no balls etc. whereas the ICC are concerned with the cricket laws that were broken.

The ICC for sure is biased because they want to send out a message, and since the evidence is so damning they are likely to suceed in doing so. There's strong evidence of corruption and we all know it, just because these guys might not be proven criminals doesn't mean they don't cheat like snakes.

[AZ]

Originally Posted by yamibone As has been discussed many times on this board the fact that there is not concrete evidence of criminal activity meaning SY cannot throw the trio in jail doesn't mean no wrong doing has occured. SY care little about cricket than they do about upholding their laws. They care more about the illegal fixed bets and the money that was exchanged rather than the 3 no balls etc. whereas the ICC are concerned with the cricket laws that were broken. The ICC for sure is biased because they want to send out a message, and since the evidence is so damning they are likely to suceed in doing so. There's strong evidence of corruption and we all know it, just because these guys might not be proven criminals doesn't mean they don't cheat like snakes.

even if they cannot show a crime was committed, they can at least show that yes the trio did actually spot-fix the match a lot better than the ICC, who's ASU is a joke of an organisation.

they can investigate the players' connection to Majeed and any improper activities a lot more effectively and thoroughly.

[JibranAnsari]

The trio should take their time and WC is not the end of the world.They can start playing their cricket after the world cup if they are not guilty.

[pinger]

Butt must really be desperate if he is willing to wait for the Scotalnd Yard investigation. Somehow he thinks that if Scotland Yard do not prosecute him it will at least save him face with the Pakistani public and claim bias when the ICC suspends him.

However the real risk is that any other evidence Scotland Yard has collected comes into the mix.

[161]

Another sign of extreme desperation from Butt.

Poor guy has lost his mind and is probably getting fleeced by his attorneys.

[qamar84]

what the hell is going on with this icc