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Old 26th December 2010, 00:38
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Younis Khan - Why come back to T20? | Please Quit T20 | Thank You[Merged]

He retired gracefully, so why the U-turn? He is taking the place of a youngster.
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Old 26th December 2010, 00:40
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He always said that he'd be willing to come back if Pakistan needed him. Not a decision I agree with by any means but he isn't the worst T20 player.

In the current squad it would be Asad who would take his spot, he's not a slogger or a big hitter by any means so I guess I see why they picked Younis
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Old 26th December 2010, 00:41
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It was poor decision and I am Younis fan.
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Old 26th December 2010, 00:41
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wondering that too?
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Old 26th December 2010, 00:41
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he didn't come back, he was selected
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Old 26th December 2010, 00:42
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Cause Pakistan collapse every other match and you need a solid middle order to hold wicket and accumulate runs. But as I said before, it does not matter what middle order you have Pakistan will collapse as they have been taveezed, no other explanation.
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Old 26th December 2010, 00:43
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he didn't come back, he was selected
Actually, It's not YK but it's his double...
As YK retired in Imran Khan fashion after winning WC.
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Old 26th December 2010, 00:46
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he didn't come back, he was selected
How do you select a retired player?
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Old 26th December 2010, 00:49
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How do you select a retired player?
this is pakistan
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Old 26th December 2010, 00:49
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Quit blaming Younis , he led Pak to T20 victory and had very good T20 stats for the T20 WC
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Old 26th December 2010, 00:50
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You know how it is with Pakistani retirements and comebacks. Who honestly is surprised?
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Old 26th December 2010, 02:18
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it really hurts the credibility of YOUNIS KHAN but his fielding is superb. i really think Younis shouldnt be called back for 20-20s.
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Old 26th December 2010, 02:52
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Asad Shafiq should have played in his place.
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Old 26th December 2010, 02:55
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He should never play T20 again, should've never came back.
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Old 26th December 2010, 02:56
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Cause Pakistan collapse every other match and you need a solid middle order to hold wicket and accumulate runs. But as I said before, it does not matter what middle order you have Pakistan will collapse as they have been taveezed, no other explanation.
No,Wahab riaz and Umer gul showed you that you need better hitters in this format and Younus and fawad both were caught playing shots,so proves my point.
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Old 26th December 2010, 02:57
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No,Wahab riaz and Umer gul showed you that you need better hitters in this format and Younus and fawad both were caught playing shots,so proves my point.
Can't make much of a case at the moment when our big hitters failed miserably too.
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Old 26th December 2010, 02:58
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Old 26th December 2010, 03:00
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Can't make much of a case at the moment when our big hitters failed miserably too.
but they were caught trying to play shots>>>is a point
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Old 26th December 2010, 03:00
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Haaainnn! don't you know he won us the world cup single handedly about hmmm... a years and half ago... and did you missed the stability he brought us to our batting order?
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Old 26th December 2010, 03:04
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its 1 match...batting stability...superb fielder...and lets be honest...a much better captain than afridi...hes a stable personality...he can and natural born leader
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Because he is another Drama Queen like MOYO.
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Old 26th December 2010, 03:05
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Actually, It's not YK but it's his double...
As YK retired in Imran Khan fashion after winning WC.
And Malik got humiliated out of the national team. I'm not for Younis playing T20s but how do you feel about Younis having a better T20 record than Malik? (it comes down to strike rate) That must make you cringe.
And BTW your signature is incompelete. Its "I promise never to repeat my mistake of trusting people like Malik."
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Old 26th December 2010, 03:12
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Old 26th December 2010, 03:34
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typical pakistan brainless man. one day they say one thing next day they say another. shame on them.
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Old 26th December 2010, 03:41
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Old 26th December 2010, 03:51
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Truly do not understand what the selectors were thinking, selecting him was their fault. Younis was offered an opportunity and he felt he needed to accept it. But why would selectors select him is what I do not understand, there was no need for him there, I would prefer Asad Shafiq instead of YK.
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Old 26th December 2010, 03:54
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Younis Khan is good enough to play t20s for Pakistan, no doubt.

But thats not the issue. The issue is his u-turn.

Pathetic decision.
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Old 26th December 2010, 04:17
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Younis Khan is good enough to play t20s for Pakistan, no doubt.

But thats not the issue. The issue is his u-turn.

Pathetic decision.
May be its because he missed almost a year of international cricket through no fault of his own.Cricket is his bread n butter he doesn,t open ice cream parlours and do not have capital cricket paying him £££s.
People forget this man retired from the t20s when he could have cashed in on leading his team to a world cup win and play for franchises around the world.
Dont forget he was picked in cricinfo,bbc and ICC team of the competition.I agree he should not have come back but who are we to judge him.He gave us a world cup and we start questioning him after one failure.Shame on us.

He is a misfit in this format?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine...ry/410483.html

Now look at this

nvolving the player Younis Khan (Pak)

Span Mat Won Lost Tied NR W/L Ave RPO HS LS
unfiltered 2006-2010 43 26 16 1 0 1.62 22.48 7.50 203 89

filtered 2006-2010 23 16 6 1 0 2.66 24.55 7.75 203 152
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Old 26th December 2010, 04:20
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May be its because he missed almost a year of international cricket through no fault of his own.Cricket is his bread n butter he doesn,t open ice cream parlours and do not have capital cricket paying him £££s.
People forget this man retired from the t20s when he could have cashed in on leading his team to a world cup win and play for franchises around the world.
Dont forget he was picked in cricinfo,bbc and ICC team of the competition.I agree he should not have come back but who are we to judge him.He gave us a world cup and we start questioning him after one failure.Shame on us.

He is a misfit in this format?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine...ry/410483.html

Now look at this

nvolving the player Younis Khan (Pak)

Span Mat Won Lost Tied NR W/L Ave RPO HS LS
unfiltered 2006-2010 43 26 16 1 0 1.62 22.48 7.50 203 89

filtered 2006-2010 23 16 6 1 0 2.66 24.55 7.75 203 152
LOL, I never doubted what he has accoomplished in the format so no need to tell me.

My point is all about the u-turn decision.

It was a bad decision to come back after retirement albeit for whatever reasons he did come back (missing 1 year of cricket)
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Old 26th December 2010, 04:24
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LOL, I never doubted what he has accoomplished in the format so no need to tell me.

My point is all about the u-turn decision.

It was a bad decision to come back after retirement albeit for whatever reasons he did come back (missing 1 year of cricket)
I just quoted you my post is directed at all the doubters.Me and you are at the same page its just I can understand if he wants to make most of his limited time left.Him being picked shows what a mess we have become in a format we were so good at.
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Old 26th December 2010, 04:28
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Younis Khan is good enough to play t20s for Pakistan, no doubt.

But thats not the issue. The issue is his u-turn.

Pathetic decision.
Agreed.

He is still a good T20 player. But he should not have come back,after retiring on a high
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^^He is not a good t20 player. Never was.
Just stick to ODI and Test.
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Old 26th December 2010, 04:37
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^^He is not a good t20 player. Never was.
Just stick to ODI and Test.
but he has a better averag then Afridi. and in captaincy miles ahead of him
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Why Younis Khan shouldn't have retired from Twenty20 cricket
Pakistan's captain may have announced his retirement from Twenty20 cricket, but stats suggest he is the perfect batsman for the format
S Rajesh


Younis Khan's dot-ball percentage was the lowest in the 2009 ICC World Twenty20, which indicates he understood the demands of this format

"I'm old now for this kind of cricket." This was Younis Khan's assertion, and his justification for announcing his retirement from the shortest version of international cricket. There can be a case against that argument on the basis of Younis' age - he isn't 32 yet - but an even stronger case can be made on the basis of his approach as a batsman in the ICC World Twenty20.

As a leader he was always positive and inspirational, and as a batsman he was no less dynamic. Pakistan may have blown hot and cold over the course of the tournament, but Younis the batsman was on the ball from game one. In fact, his best performances came when the going was most difficult, in the two games that Pakistan lost. Against England, he played a lone hand with an unbeaten 46 off 31 balls even as the rest of the batting line-up crumbled; against Sri Lanka the story was similar, with Younis' 37-ball 50 the only major resistance during the run-chase of 151. (In the matches that Pakistan won, they did so with so much to spare that the captain was hardly called upon to do much with the bat.)

The key feature of Younis' batting was not only the runs he scored, but more the manner in which he made them. Against England he struck only five fours, and played out a mere seven dot balls. Against Sri Lanka the corresponding numbers were four and six. On the other hand, he ran seven twos in each of those innings. Both were perfect middle-overs innings, with the focus on minimising the risks, picking up gaps in the outfield, and ensuring that as many balls as possible were scored off. They were also the kind of innings that required a fair amount of fitness.

Younis finished the tournament with a healthy strike-rate of nearly 140 runs per 100 balls, but did so by collecting just 62 out of his 172 runs in fours and sixes. On the other hand, out of the 123 balls he faced, he allowed only 21 to go runless, an outstanding percentage of 17.07. Among batsmen who played at least 50 balls in the tournament, Younis' dot-ball factor was not only the best, but the best by a considerable distance - second-placed Ramnaresh Sarwan's dot-ball factor was 25%, almost 50% poorer than Younis'.

The table below is also an indication of why Pakistan are such a good Twenty20 side: there are four from the team among the 10 with the lowest dot-ball percentage. Add Shahid Afridi's amazing ball-striking abilities and the result is a pretty potent combination, as other bowling attacks found out in the competition. Only two other teams have more than one batsman in the list - West Indies have Sarwan and Dwayne Bravo, while England are represented by Paul Collingwood and Kevin Pietersen, who's ranked just below his good friend Yuvraj Singh.

Lowest dot-ball percentage in the ICC World Twenty20 2009 (Qual: 50 balls faced)
Batsman Dot balls Total balls 4s, 6s Total runs % dot balls % runs in boundaries
Younis Khan 21 123 11, 3 172 17.07 36.05
Ramnaresh Sarwan 15 60 5, 0 68 25.00 29.41
Misbah-ul-Haq 19 70 4, 2 82 27.14 34.15
AB de Villiers 33 120 16, 6 186 27.50 53.76
Shahid Afridi 35 125 16, 3 176 28.00 46.59
Paul Collingwood 17 55 6, 0 63 30.91 38.10
Dwayne Bravo 33 106 12, 6 154 31.13 54.55
Shoaib Malik 45 140 12, 0 144 32.14 33.33
Yuvraj Singh 32 99 10, 9 153 32.32 61.44
Kevin Pietersen 33 101 19, 4 154 32.67 64.94
Younis' Twenty20 form isn't restricted to the World Twenty20 alone; his overall stats are pretty good as well, and he has been among the leading batsmen in this format for Pakistan. His overall dot-ball percentage isn't as good as it was in the World Twenty20, but it is still mighty impressive - 33.24, which among Pakistan batsmen is next only to the mercurial Afridi. Younis' average and strike-rate are more than acceptable for a middle-order batsman in a format that only allows 20 overs per innings.

Pakistan batsmen in Twenty20 internationals (Qual: 100 balls faced)
Batsman Runs Average Runs per over Dots Dot % 4s, 6s % runs in 4s, 6s
Shahid Afridi 371 19.52 8.97 75 30.24 33, 12 54.99
Younis Khan 432 28.80 7.49 115 33.24 31, 12 45.37
Shoaib Malik 527 31.00 7.05 151 33.71 41, 13 45.92
Misbah-ul-Haq 504 45.81 7.30 142 34.30 31, 19 47.22
Kamran Akmal 356 23.73 7.39 125 43.25 27, 15 55.62
Imran Nazir 201 33.50 9.00 64 47.76 18, 13 74.63
Salman Butt 328 25.23 5.80 164 48.38 33, 6 51.22
Mohammad Hafeez 174 19.33 7.10 73 49.66 23, 3 63.22
Pakistan won 16 out of the 22 matches he played (they lost five and tied one),
Among batsmen with whom he batted at least five times, Younis' best partner was Misbah. In six innings the two batsmen added 268 runs at an excellent average and strike-rate. The pair were remarkably consistent too, with three half-century stands, and another that yielded 48. Younis had some pretty good stands with Shoaib Malik as well, and Shoaib and Misbah will probably be expected to handle much of the middle-order responsibility when Pakistan play their next Twenty20 international, without Younis Khan.

Younis' partnerships in Twenty20 internationals
Partner Innings Runs Average stand Runs per over
Misbah-ul-Haq 6 268 44.67 8.04
Shoaib Malik 10 266 26.60 7.86
Shahid Afridi 5 97 24.25 9.09
Salman Butt 6 70 11.67 5.31
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Why Younis Khan shouldn't have retired from Twenty20 cricket
Pakistan's captain may have announced his retirement from Twenty20 cricket, but stats suggest he is the perfect batsman for the format
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Younis Khan's dot-ball percentage was the lowest in the 2009 ICC World Twenty20, which indicates he understood the demands of this format
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"I'm old now for this kind of cricket." This was Younis Khan's assertion, and his justification for announcing his retirement from the shortest version of international cricket. There can be a case against that argument on the basis of Younis' age - he isn't 32 yet - but an even stronger case can be made on the basis of his approach as a batsman in the ICC World Twenty20.

As a leader he was always positive and inspirational, and as a batsman he was no less dynamic. Pakistan may have blown hot and cold over the course of the tournament, but Younis the batsman was on the ball from game one. In fact, his best performances came when the going was most difficult, in the two games that Pakistan lost. Against England, he played a lone hand with an unbeaten 46 off 31 balls even as the rest of the batting line-up crumbled; against Sri Lanka the story was similar, with Younis' 37-ball 50 the only major resistance during the run-chase of 151. (In the matches that Pakistan won, they did so with so much to spare that the captain was hardly called upon to do much with the bat.)

The key feature of Younis' batting was not only the runs he scored, but more the manner in which he made them. Against England he struck only five fours, and played out a mere seven dot balls. Against Sri Lanka the corresponding numbers were four and six. On the other hand, he ran seven twos in each of those innings. Both were perfect middle-overs innings, with the focus on minimising the risks, picking up gaps in the outfield, and ensuring that as many balls as possible were scored off. They were also the kind of innings that required a fair amount of fitness.

Younis finished the tournament with a healthy strike-rate of nearly 140 runs per 100 balls, but did so by collecting just 62 out of his 172 runs in fours and sixes. On the other hand, out of the 123 balls he faced, he allowed only 21 to go runless, an outstanding percentage of 17.07. Among batsmen who played at least 50 balls in the tournament, Younis' dot-ball factor was not only the best, but the best by a considerable distance - second-placed Ramnaresh Sarwan's dot-ball factor was 25%, almost 50% poorer than Younis'.

The table below is also an indication of why Pakistan are such a good Twenty20 side: there are four from the team among the 10 with the lowest dot-ball percentage. Add Shahid Afridi's amazing ball-striking abilities and the result is a pretty potent combination, as other bowling attacks found out in the competition. Only two other teams have more than one batsman in the list - West Indies have Sarwan and Dwayne Bravo, while England are represented by Paul Collingwood and Kevin Pietersen, who's ranked just below his good friend Yuvraj Singh.

Lowest dot-ball percentage in the ICC World Twenty20 2009 (Qual: 50 balls faced)
Batsman Dot balls Total balls 4s, 6s Total runs % dot balls % runs in boundaries
Younis Khan 21 123 11, 3 172 17.07 36.05
Ramnaresh Sarwan 15 60 5, 0 68 25.00 29.41
Misbah-ul-Haq 19 70 4, 2 82 27.14 34.15
AB de Villiers 33 120 16, 6 186 27.50 53.76
Shahid Afridi 35 125 16, 3 176 28.00 46.59
Paul Collingwood 17 55 6, 0 63 30.91 38.10
Dwayne Bravo 33 106 12, 6 154 31.13 54.55
Shoaib Malik 45 140 12, 0 144 32.14 33.33
Yuvraj Singh 32 99 10, 9 153 32.32 61.44
Kevin Pietersen 33 101 19, 4 154 32.67 64.94
Younis' Twenty20 form isn't restricted to the World Twenty20 alone; his overall stats are pretty good as well, and he has been among the leading batsmen in this format for Pakistan. His overall dot-ball percentage isn't as good as it was in the World Twenty20, but it is still mighty impressive - 33.24, which among Pakistan batsmen is next only to the mercurial Afridi. Younis' average and strike-rate are more than acceptable for a middle-order batsman in a format that only allows 20 overs per innings.

Pakistan batsmen in Twenty20 internationals (Qual: 100 balls faced)
Batsman Runs Average Runs per over Dots Dot % 4s, 6s % runs in 4s, 6s
Shahid Afridi 371 19.52 8.97 75 30.24 33, 12 54.99
Younis Khan 432 28.80 7.49 115 33.24 31, 12 45.37
Shoaib Malik 527 31.00 7.05 151 33.71 41, 13 45.92
Misbah-ul-Haq 504 45.81 7.30 142 34.30 31, 19 47.22
Kamran Akmal 356 23.73 7.39 125 43.25 27, 15 55.62
Imran Nazir 201 33.50 9.00 64 47.76 18, 13 74.63
Salman Butt 328 25.23 5.80 164 48.38 33, 6 51.22
Mohammad Hafeez 174 19.33 7.10 73 49.66 23, 3 63.22
Pakistan won 16 out of the 22 matches he played (they lost five and tied one), but Younis had a higher average in the matches the team lost, thanks largely to his two efforts against England and Sri Lanka in the recent World Twenty20. Among his efforts in wins, the best was against Sri Lanka, again - a 35-ball 51 in the 2007 World Twenty20, which was the only occasion he won the Man-of-the-Match award for his batting. He did win the award one other time in his career, but that was for figures of 3 for 18 against Kenya in a quadrangular tournament in Nairobi.

Younis Khan in matches won and lost
Innings Runs Average Strike rate
In wins 14 309 25.75 129.83
In losses 5 121 30.25 121.00
Among batsmen with whom he batted at least five times, Younis' best partner was Misbah. In six innings the two batsmen added 268 runs at an excellent average and strike-rate. The pair were remarkably consistent too, with three half-century stands, and another that yielded 48. Younis had some pretty good stands with Shoaib Malik as well, and Shoaib and Misbah will probably be expected to handle much of the middle-order responsibility when Pakistan play their next Twenty20 international, without Younis Khan.

Younis' partnerships in Twenty20 internationals
Partner Innings Runs Average stand Runs per over
Misbah-ul-Haq 6 268 44.67 8.04
Shoaib Malik 10 266 26.60 7.86
Shahid Afridi 5 97 24.25 9.09
Salman Butt 6 70 11.67 5.31
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Old 26th December 2010, 04:47
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I am not going to read all that
but stats dont tell the true story.
Well not a surprise afridi cant play a long innings his fans cant read a long post.I will make it simple for you.The same YK that you say never was a t20 player according to leading website was one the best around.
Stats have never told the true story for some. 24 with the bat and 35 with the ball is mediocre.
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Old 26th December 2010, 05:18
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Wasn't it Mohsin Khan who made Younis Khan turn his decision ? If I remember correctly what exactly had happened was that before UAE series squad announcement MHK didn't knew YK had retired from UK and told him to say that you would be available for T20's etc, hence, YK said I'm available to play everything for Pakistan.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 26th December 2010, 05:20
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YK is my fav Pakistani player and I do NOT support his return from retirement.

I wanted his retirement to be graceful. Atleast I was not expecting this kind of U turn from him that is usually associated from almost all Pakistani retiring players recently.

Retirement of a player who played a good career should be graceful and respected. By doing these kind of things they are just ruining that.
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Old 26th December 2010, 05:53
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Expect him to quit T20 after we lose the series 3-0.
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Old 26th December 2010, 06:42
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Os ne kaha tha Jab team ko zaroorat hoi tu wapas aa sakta hoon...Aur team ko oss ki zaroorat thi
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Old 26th December 2010, 06:44
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Old 26th December 2010, 06:48
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He retired gracefully, so why the U-turn? He is taking the place of a youngster.
because he likes money.
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Old 26th December 2010, 10:41
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Younus should be nowhere near the t20 side.

He retired and should have stuck with that decision. He just doesnt have the shots for this sort of cricket and you cant pick a player just for his catching.
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Old 26th December 2010, 11:29
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I like YK but Younus shouldn't play T20.
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Old 26th December 2010, 11:48
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YK retired from T20's at the highest point - after captaining his side to the World Cup win. There is no better way to go out.

And then he spoils it all by coming back...
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Old 26th December 2010, 12:30
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Very sad to see him come out of retirement after having ended his career on such a high. A bad move for sure. Personally, I'd half think about leaving Younis out of the WC squad and tell him to be a specialist test player - that's the format he's always been a class act in.
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Old 26th December 2010, 12:39
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In 2009, he was at the top of his game, he had developed into a good ODI player too so it was much easier for him to adjust to T20. He's making a comeback now and considering what he went through in last 12 months, I dont think he'll ever get to that peak again. He may still survive in ODIs, but shouldnt play T20
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Old 26th December 2010, 12:40
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Brilliant move. We need him in all formats.
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Old 26th December 2010, 14:31
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He retired gracefully, so why the U-turn? He is taking the place of a youngster.
Has any of Pakistan cricketers ever retired gracefully??? Why blame Younis alone? If it wasn't for him Pakistan would be scraping the bottom of the barrel with likes of Imran Nazir.
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Old 26th December 2010, 14:37
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op - so what? what the problem if he's back in the side? he's an asset, he's a brilliant slip-fielder, he's a good 'go-to' guy in the middle. whats your point?

if its age, then you need to open your eye's up and stop creating these threads. he's doing a good job. pick on some other batsmen like shezad who doesn't need to be in the team.
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Old 27th December 2010, 01:09
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op - so what? what the problem if he's back in the side? he's an asset, he's a brilliant slip-fielder, he's a good 'go-to' guy in the middle. whats your point?

if its age, then you need to open your eye's up and stop creating these threads. he's doing a good job. pick on some other batsmen like shezad who doesn't need to be in the team.
I don't have a problem with him coming back to the side. Its his retirement then u-turning and then returning again. How do you do build up for the Y20 WC if players come and go when they feel like it?
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Old 27th December 2010, 02:04
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because YK is an angel. and whatever he does it perfect. and he always plays for pakistan. in his word " I PLAY FOR SEAM".
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Old 27th December 2010, 08:56
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Wasn't it Mohsin Khan who made Younis Khan turn his decision ? If I remember correctly what exactly had happened was that before UAE series squad announcement MHK didn't knew YK had retired from UK and told him to say that you would be available for T20's etc, hence, YK said I'm available to play everything for Pakistan.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
UTurns are pakistan specials
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Old 27th December 2010, 09:42
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He retired gracefully, so why the U-turn? He is taking the place of a youngster.
You seem surprised.. Is this a a new phenomena in pakistan cricket?
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Old 28th December 2010, 07:31
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YK Please help yourself and Quit T20

This is not his game....Please keep him for only Test....I cant see him ****ing up in every game like this


Dont know why a lot of PPers are in love with him....Never performed when needed.
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Old 28th December 2010, 07:34
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One of his worst decisions ever to come back

Not because hes not good enough, but because he made an unnecessary u-turn
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Old 28th December 2010, 07:35
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Old 28th December 2010, 07:35
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depends on who'll replace him.
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Old 28th December 2010, 07:36
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I have no clue what yk is doing in t20 squad.
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Old 28th December 2010, 07:38
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This is not his game....Please keep him for only Test....I cant see him ****ing up in every game like this


Dont know why a lot of PPers are in love with him....Never performed when needed.
He should not have come back but this was a sinking ship before he returned.Lost 8 out of 11.So cant blame him for those can we.
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Old 28th December 2010, 07:39
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hold on ...so its all his fault?

lol
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Old 28th December 2010, 07:40
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I agree he should leave.

But this match wasn't his fault. Take your anger out on the team, don't make scapegoats out of some players.
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Old 28th December 2010, 07:41
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I agree he should leave.

But this match wasn't his fault. Take your anger out on the team, don't make scapegoats out of some players.
Thank you.
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Old 28th December 2010, 07:42
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Old 28th December 2010, 07:45
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he has no dignity
Yes 15 years of mediocrity.
Back stabbed Two captains.
Danced on the wicket.
Ball tempering.

Really he has no shame and dignity,
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Old 28th December 2010, 07:49
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its just fun game
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Old 28th December 2010, 07:51
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Yes 15 years of mediocrity.
Back stabbed Two captains.
Danced on the wicket.
Ball tempering.

Really he has no shame and dignity,
Yes 15 years of mediocrity.....15 years, which has increased pakistan following by another 25%
Back stabbed Two captains. (any proof, i mean any evidence to prove your's this hide the face comment) i like it, i can feel your pain...
Danced on the wicket....that wasnt dance....you can go and ask michael jackson
Ball tempering.....where in Islam does it say you cant eat a ball, sharia allows it

tauba aap loag...

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Old 28th December 2010, 07:51
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He shouldn't be in the team, but its not like we lost this match because of him.

I agree, he should have stuck with his decision to retire.
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Old 28th December 2010, 07:53
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YK failed as many other batters failed. but the loss of the team is the fault of skipper and management.
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Old 28th December 2010, 07:56
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It was really good at how he bowed out at the top.

But now he just seems a bit silly for making a u-turn.

But i guess its just a fun cricket
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Old 28th December 2010, 10:43
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thanks younis khan

i think we should thank younis khan for coming back in t20's and bring back the stability in our midlle order.
after stabilizing our midlle order in odi's with an avg of little more than 20 and a great strike rate of more or less than 70 in the last two years he is know showing that he has still it in him and play 20 20.
we really need this man in our team to keep our consistancy in loosing otherwise we are perhaps going to start winning and this is not that good a pleasure to have.
SO THANKS MR YOUNIS KHAN. Hope to see you in the world cup mr stabilizer loooooooooool
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Old 28th December 2010, 10:44
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Old 28th December 2010, 10:47
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He doesnt hve to be selected, if ur gnna have a moan moan at the selectors for picking the squad n afridi n waqar for picking the team

At the end of the day the captain n coach are responsible for results and their is a lack of thought n strategy from them in every dept
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Old 28th December 2010, 10:48
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i know that my thread hasn't got a long life because you can't express your feeling on pp when you are talking about the GREAT younis khan. this is what we call pakistani democratie
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Old 28th December 2010, 12:12
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After the world cup I personally believe that Moyo and Yousuf should stick with the longer format of the game only - this will benefit them as they will be able to concentrate on one format then 2 or 3, similiar case like SA's Prince or India's Laxman.

Or what they can do is take a break after the World cup from limited overs just like Tendulkar did and just focus on test cricket which I personally believe suits them best.

This will also give the selectors a chance to possibly try out 1/2 youngsters or fairly experienced players who have been performing well at domestic level 'consistently'.
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Old 28th December 2010, 12:19
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u idiots tell me what has your other batsmans done.who you think are t20 specilists.your afridi who dont know how to bat.and can miss full toss ball.and you are talking about younus khan.he is best player in t20 with average of 24 in t20 beter than afridi razaq hafiz and many others.you all are idiots.
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Old 28th December 2010, 12:35
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If he isn't the captain i don't think he should be in The guy and MO Yousuf should focus on ODI's and Tests
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Old 28th December 2010, 17:25
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Idiotic decision to come back, he really couldn't live with retiring from T20 on a high note, on one hand he couldn't play at all due to 'principle' and wouldn't apologize, then he did a u turn after wasting so a few series and apologized to Butt and now he wants to play all forms. I really think YK should stick with ODIs and Tests and make the best of it. Why put yourself in this situation?
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