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Old 3rd January 2011, 18:21
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Which group is tougher in the World Cup?

Group A

Australia
Canada
Kenya
NZ
Pakistan
Sri Lanka
Zimbabwe


Group B

Bangladesh
England
India
Ireland
Netherlands
SA
WI

I think Group A is.

I don't consider Zimbabwe a minnow team seeing they have the ability to pull off major upsets quite often.

Canada and Kenya are easy, but after that I'd say we are the weakest :/

In Group B, I think Windies are a weaker team than Bangladesh...
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Old 3rd January 2011, 18:22
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Could you show the groups, please?
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Old 3rd January 2011, 18:24
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Could you show the groups, please?
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Old 3rd January 2011, 18:28
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Group B.With England,South Africa,India,West Indies and Bangladesh all competing,it will be a fairly tough group compared to ours.

Bangladesh have improved at they will be at home so they have a chance of causing an upset and they will target the WI match.West Indies may be going out of the group stages if they are not careful.
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Old 3rd January 2011, 18:30
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there is no minnow in the group B team, group b is really tough. West Indies are like Pak. Unpredictable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 3rd January 2011, 18:30
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Old 3rd January 2011, 18:32
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Those are some good groups. A has some top matches lined up, and nobody's guaranteed to get out of B.

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Group b bangladesh might just give us all a shock i can see wi going out in the frist rounud
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Old 3rd January 2011, 18:36
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If the West Indies go out of the group stages then the ramifications will be huge for them,expect all the seniors to be ditched and for there to be a huge rebuilding process,similar to what Pakistan went through after the 2003 World Cup,also their preparations have been hampered as they had a chance to gain practice on subcontinent pitches against Sri Lanka but the ODI series had to be postponed due to the rain.

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Old 3rd January 2011, 18:39
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Group B without a doubt, apart from Netherlands, the rest of teams have got a chance of going through the next round...
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Old 3rd January 2011, 19:08
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group a is almost clear to everyone.

pakistan, australia, nz and srilanka will go through. Any minow can cause an upset but a single upset wont be enough im afraid.. a team has to win atleast 3 matches to go to the next round.

group b much more tougher anyone can beat anyone
what if windies loose to bangla but beat any of the big boys, they are pretty much capable especially england as thier bowling wont be as good at sub continents.
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Old 4th January 2011, 04:48
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Group B is tougher. Where do I put my vote??

Also, can someone be kind enough to explain how ICC come up with this 'brilliant' format? Each group has 7 teams. Never seen odd number of teams in a group before.
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Old 4th January 2011, 05:02
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groups b definitely

pakistan will play south africa in quarter final, australia vs west indies ,india vs nz , england vs srilanka

aus vs ind semifinal south arfirca vs srilanka

ind vs sa final

sa winner
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Old 4th January 2011, 05:42
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Group B seems very tough
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Old 4th January 2011, 05:47
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Group B is the tougher group since it has 5 stronger teams out of which only 4 can make it to the next round .

Group A looks an easy group with Pakistan , Australia , Sri Lanka and Nz look to ease past to the next round without any problem.
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Old 4th January 2011, 05:51
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Group B is the tougher group since it has 5 stronger teams out of which only 4 can make it to the next round .

Group A looks an easy group with Pakistan , Australia , Sri Lanka and Nz look to ease past to the next round without any problem.
dont think bangladesh can trouble to any team other than west indies in the major teams.
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Old 4th January 2011, 06:01
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dont think bangladesh can trouble to any team other than west indies in the major teams.
well look Bangladesh are a very strong unit as compared to what they were in the past , lately they have started to win matches on a regular basis ( recent thrashing of Kiwis at home 4-0)
Other advantage is that they will be playing all their stage1 matches on home conditions with the strong home crowd backing the team , Plus if you remember Bangladesh have defeated both India and Sa in the previous world cup and both the teams are grouped with Bangladesh this time around . So you cant totally rule them out of the reckoning for the next round , they have good match winners in Shakib and Tamim while everyone knows there spinners on home conditions can be a nightmare for any touring team
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Old 4th January 2011, 06:04
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well look Bangladesh are a very strong unit as compared to what they were in the past , lately they have started to win matches on a regular basis ( recent thrashing of Kiwis at home 4-0)
Other advantage is that they will be playing all their stage1 matches on home conditions with the strong home crowd backing the team , Plus if you remember Bangladesh have defeated both India and Sa in the previous world cup and both the teams are grouped with Bangladesh this time around . So you cant totally rule them out of the reckoning for the next round , they have good match winners in Shakib and Tamim while everyone knows there spinners on home conditions can be a nightmare for any touring team
got thrashed by all india srilanka and pakistan in asia cup. They win sometimes , a weak pakistani team beat them in asia cup which they did not even try to win. I dont see them advancing to the next round.
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Old 4th January 2011, 06:10
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Old 4th January 2011, 06:13
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got thrashed by all india srilanka and pakistan in asia cup. They win sometimes , a weak pakistani team beat them in asia cup which they did not even try to win. I dont see them advancing to the next round.
I hope that too . Any strong team which defeats Bangladesh will be assured of a place in the next round .
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Old 4th January 2011, 06:19
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Bangladesh will be playing all their matches in bangladesh i think,so group B is tougher.
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Old 4th January 2011, 06:21
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Group B has all 3 favourites to win in it.
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Old 4th January 2011, 06:26
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Group B looks like friggin 3 hot favorites in it. Doesn't look balanced based on teams current forms but India, England and South Africa have to be Red hot favorites.

This in turn is not good news for Pakistan because it means they will most
Likely end up facing one of these three in the quarters (if they qualify)

I hope pakistanis are upto the challenge. I dont see them beating England, India or south Africa on current form!
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Old 4th January 2011, 06:40
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I dont see them beating England, India or south Africa on current form!
Maybe maybe not. I'm just hyper excited about the prospect of an India Pak encounter. Bada mazaa ayega!
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Old 4th January 2011, 06:49
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Group B looks like friggin 3 hot favorites in it. Doesn't look balanced based on teams current forms but India, England and South Africa have to be Red hot favorites.

This in turn is not good news for Pakistan because it means they will most
Likely end up facing one of these three in the quarters (if they qualify)

I hope pakistanis are upto the challenge. I dont see them beating England, India or south Africa on current form!
pak played well against south africa and england. lost series in the final match. So anything can happen, pakistan is unpredictable .
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Old 4th January 2011, 06:52
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Bangladesh has made some real progress in the ODI's. They are a strong side in their home conditions. I don't think any other team will be writing them off.
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Like most people think, obviously group B is tougher. Even if pak screws up against one of the 3 minnows once, all they need is to beat one of the three tougher teams.
The format's perfect for pak, hopefully we have some players reach some top form at the quarter final stage onwards, because then it's just gonna be a toss up of who is better on that day.
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Old 4th January 2011, 07:39
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group a is a joke ,,, none of the group a team will make it to the semi's except may be sri lanka ... pakistan can,, if they have their full team in full form
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Old 4th January 2011, 07:56
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group a is a joke ,,, none of the group a team will make it to the semi's except may be sri lanka ... pakistan can,, if they have their full team in full form
its funny how people ignore australia, they still are number 1 in one days and are a very good limited over team.
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Old 4th January 2011, 08:01
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I think it's the other way round? Pak are in B and India etc are in A?

Anyhow, I feel that it may well be Pak v Eng/SA in a possible QF. England may have had the last laugh in the 4th test and NatWest series but all in all, England and SA would probably least like to face Pakistan in some ways due to unpredictable/lottery nature of our cricket and they would know that we will give it 110% in a knockout!
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Old 4th January 2011, 12:58
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How come the glorious and beautiful Pakistan never is in the same group as Majestic India???
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Old 4th January 2011, 14:06
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Group B. Without a shade of Doubt.
In group A you have kenya, zimbawe and canada, who are very limited in experience.
In group B you have ireland and Bangladesh who are much more potent.
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Old 4th January 2011, 14:11
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Definitely Group B. You have 5 teams competing for 4 QF places and then there is Ireland who probably won't qualify but are definitely capable of beating a top team and denting progress. Group B matches will also be much more exciting.
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Old 4th January 2011, 14:32
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group b is tougher. all teams apart from netherlands have a chance to get into the next round. even ireland can pull off upsets(beat bangladesh & zimbabwe this year & came within 30 runs of beating australia) & bangladesh are playing at home, which makes their matches tougher. they even beat nz 4-0 recently

group a seems to be very weak. it will be a cakewalk for australia & sri lanka to the next round from here. none of kenya & canada would pose any threats. and new zealand & pakistan might struggle. zimbabwe should be disappointed if they dont qualify after the results in 2010
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Old 4th January 2011, 14:34
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Group B is tougher. Where do I put my vote??

Also, can someone be kind enough to explain how ICC come up with this 'brilliant' format? Each group has 7 teams. Never seen odd number of teams in a group before.
remember 2003 wc

even that had 7 teams in each group
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Old 4th January 2011, 14:36
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Old 4th January 2011, 14:55
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Old 4th January 2011, 16:09
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Guyz, we have quarter finals in this format. You just have to be in top 4 in the group to qualify for quarter finals so none of the groups are tough.
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Old 4th January 2011, 16:33
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Group B is tougher no is guranteed to go through.

Group A, Pak should go through InshAllah, along with the Aus,SL,NZ
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Old 4th January 2011, 16:42
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Guyz, we have quarter finals in this format. You just have to be in top 4 in the group to qualify for quarter finals so none of the groups are tough.
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True say but remember we said that last time in 2003,we didn't even finish in the top 3 to qualify,or 4th,we finished 5th.
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Old 5th January 2011, 05:37
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remember 2003 wc

even that had 7 teams in each group
You are right.

What I dislike about such groups ( with an odd number of members) is that each team plays an even number of games. In this case 6. So what if 2 teams end up with 3 wins each, or 2 wins each. Then it comes down to run rate and other such mathematical parameters to decide who goes through.
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As both India and Pakistan found out in the last world cup, it can be disastrous to be complacent about "minnows".
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Old 5th January 2011, 05:53
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As both India and Pakistan found out in the last world cup, it can be disastrous to be complacent about "minnows".
What you really meant is " Ireland & Bangladesh found out that they could take their matches against the minnows for granted"
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Old 5th January 2011, 07:05
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What you really meant is " Ireland & Bangladesh found out that they could take their matches against the minnows for granted"
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Old 5th January 2011, 08:12
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Ok so we are in 'A'. Makes no difference- knew we had Aus, SL, NZ and Zim. Aus and SL would be tricky in most places, NZ always fight hard and Zim are dangerous and we can't play spin and they have a whole lot of them.

I really think that the pressure in SL v Pak would be on SL and we must silence the crowd early. The fast bowlers must be on top form and send a signal out to the rest of the world in that match.

I think NZ night fancy their chances (although quite slim on paper) v Aus- but who thought they would beat them in 1999? Also in 1996, they scored 300+ in a QF v Aus and the Aus team was stronger then.
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