Will Misbah perform under Afridi's captainy during ODI Series vs NZ?

[Shakil_pkcricket]

Every one knows that huge confusion has been created by PCB by not naming the captain for WC 2011. Given the circumstances Misbah is the strongest contender at the moment among many PCB members.

Afridi's fate as every body knows will be decided The biggest question came to my mind is that will Misbah perform under Afridi’s captaincy during ODI Series vs NZ, knowing that a bad result in the series simply gives him the WC 2011 captaincy ignoring his own performance in the ODI Series, or will he under perform.

My point is PCB is providing another chance for player power to play its role so early to the WC. we never learn from our mistakes.

[kkmix]

U mean misbah will underperform

[Omar Malik]

The form that he's shown in the test series does point towards him being in good touch and should hopefully perform in the ODI series aswell, as for Afridi he's going to need to do something here to prove that he can still perform both with bat and ball so it should be a good competition between these 2. Overall, should be a good series for both as it'll determine who will be leading the team for the WC.

[Shakil_pkcricket]

Originally Posted by kkmix U mean misbah will underperform

from every where we are hearing one thing that is Afridi will be appointed captain if and only if Pak wins the series and Afridi plays a vital role in it by his own performance.

People should have been thinking this also that Misbah has to perform better than Afridi in ODI format to claim the world cup captaincy. This is where the danger lies.

[kkmix]

Originally Posted by Shakil_pkcricket from every where we are hearing one thing that is Afridi will be appointed captain if and only if Pak wins the series and Afridi plays a vital role in it by his own performance. People should have been thinking this also that Misbah has to perform better than Afridi in ODI format to claim the world cup captaincy. This is where the danger lies.

Afridi has to win the upcoming ODI series to retain his captaincy. simple.

If he fails to do that then Misbah becomes the captain for WC.

[cricnut]

As if winning an Odi series against a depleted side such as NZ is a big deal , Even Bangladesh beat NZ 4-0 few months ago .
whoever contributes better to the team individually should lead Pakistan in the World Cup.

Pakistan winning the Odi series with Great Afridi contributing scores such as 4,10,8,9,11 in no way makes him an ideal captain for the world cup

[Omar Malik]

Originally Posted by kkmix Afridi has to win the upcoming ODI series to retain his captaincy. simple. If he fails to do that then Misbah becomes the captain for WC.

Apart from winning it, he obviously needs to perform with both and ball to justify that he is leading from the front just like what Misbah did in the test series.

[Sherlock]

I thought Misbah goes home after the Test series. He was interviewed in which the interviewer said something about him leaving for Pakistan straight away when the ODIs start.

[ganeshran]

Introducing confusion on leadership before an important tournament is a major snafu by PCB.

[786warrior]

I think he'll perform 200% to wake afridi up!!!!

[Blitz]

He knows, like we all do, Afridi usually flops.

So what better way to get the captaincy, then to score 6 more 50+ scores, in ODI's this time?

[Afridi_Fan]

Originally Posted by cricnut As if winning an Odi series against a depleted side such as NZ is a big deal , Even Bangladesh beat NZ 4-0 few months ago . whoever contributes better to the team individually should lead Pakistan in the World Cup. Pakistan winning the Odi series with Great Afridi contributing scores such as 4,10,8,9,11 in no way makes him an ideal captain for the world cup

Excuse me but where BD beat NZ?

[AZ]

looking for a conspiracy where there is none.

Misbah will perform to the best of his ability, and being in good form, hopefully will make some runs.

[cricnut]

Originally Posted by Afridi_Fan Excuse me but where BD beat NZ?

In Bangladesh

[Wristy_Shuffler]

I doubt he'll try to underperform. It's his last WC and this series will be his only means of justifying a place in the starting 11.

[samiakh]

If I were Misbah and Afridi I would have a heart to heart with each other before the start of the NZ series and then based on that converstation, inform the PCB that one of them is dropping out of the race for the captaincy in order to promote stability in the team, and the other should lead the team in the NZ series and the WC.

[Indiafan]

Misbah is too much of a professional to even think along these lines. Pakistan need more players like him

[mon858]

Originally Posted by samiakh If I were Misbah and Afridi I would have a heart to heart with each other before the start of the NZ series and then based on that converstation, inform the PCB that one of them is dropping out of the race for the captaincy in order to promote stability in the team, and the other should lead the team in the NZ series and the WC.

and then you woke up. can't imagine that happening in a pakistan cricket team (or any other team).

[mon858]

another strange thought.... what if Afridi doesn't play him!! after all he wasn't played in the last few odis Pakistan played, or in T20s if i recall correctly.

[NO 1 AFRIDI FAN]

Originally Posted by mon858 another strange thought.... what if Afridi doesn't play him!! after all he wasn't played in the last few odis Pakistan played, or in T20s if i recall correctly.

Afridi doesnt even have a say in selection, most of the time.

[Indiafan]

Originally Posted by NO 1 AFRIDI FAN Afridi doesnt even have a say in selection, most of the time.

I am sure he has a say in chosing the final 11, thats a captain's (and coach's) job, not selectors'

[Pakprideuk]

Afridi should be our ODI captain, i don't agree with the way he handles the media but if you think about what he's done in the circumstances, well that is impressive. He needs runs, if he can score a century in New Zealand and bowl well then he's justified his place. Even if pak lose but if his tactics are right, if his batting and bowling is good then i guess he's the captain.

Pakistan has created this problem by not naming the captain because i can assure as always in Pak cricket there will be 3-4 guys trying to promote another person for captain by failing because the 15 man squad has been decided for the world cup. You never know with Pak cricket, i hope not but there is no way you can rule that out.

Anywayz i hope afridi is captain.

[Sherazkhalid]

Misbah ODI captain, thanks but no thanks, with strike rate of almost 30 most of the times in Tests, he's hardly any good for ODIs, we saw that in the UAE, the question is not that he will under perform, to me the question is, if he will over perform?, making 15 off 30 plus balls is misbah at the right pace, we need him to make, if nothing else 25 plus in 30 balls, which will be Misbah on steroids, I think we are better of without Misbah in ODIs, let him concentrate on tests.

[srh]

Originally Posted by Indiafan I am sure he has a say in chosing the final 11, thats a captain's (and coach's) job, not selectors'

Afridi has 1 vote in choosing the final 11. The other 3 votes belongs to coach (Waqar), manager (Inti) and vice captain (Misbah).

[Down2Earth]

well there's no reason for him to underperform. if he plays crap, there's no way he'll be given the captaincy if afridi fails as a result. i think misbah will retire a legend the way he's made a comeback

[Impala_KaifTamasha]

Obviously Misbah will try to play hos best so that his spot in the WC team is cemented

[Rana]

Misbah, become the finisher!

Finish games like Inzi once did! Bring back the golden days!

[1137moiz]

InshaAllah I hope Misbah does perform well--why not, after all? This thread is a pretty baseless conspiracy theory

[Mobashir]

Two things to note here :
- Misbah never performs in ODI's, so it doens't matter to him who the captain is.
- Afridi will not even play him in the final XI.

[Down2Earth]

Originally Posted by Mobashir Two things to note here : - Misbah never performs in ODI's, so it doens't matter to him who the captain is. - Afridi will not even play him in the final XI.

you do know he's the vice captain right?

[1137moiz]

Originally Posted by Mobashir Two things to note here : - Misbah never performs in ODI's, so it doens't matter to him who the captain is. - Afridi will not even play him in the final XI.

Wrong on both counts imho
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...d.php?t=116254

[786warrior]

will afridi perform??

[insaaniyat]

Originally Posted by Shakil_pkcricket Every one knows that huge confusion has been created by PCB by not naming the captain for WC 2011. Given the circumstances Misbah is the strongest contender at the moment among many PCB members. Afridi's fate as every body knows will be decided The biggest question came to my mind is that will Misbah perform under Afridi’s captaincy during ODI Series vs NZ, knowing that a bad result in the series simply gives him the WC 2011 captaincy ignoring his own performance in the ODI Series, or will he under perform. My point is PCB is providing another chance for player power to play its role so early to the WC. we never learn from our mistakes.

Title should be " Will Afridi perform this time under his captaincy". We all know Misbah will. He has an average of almost 40 in ODI compare to 23 for Afridi

[Hamxa89]

Originally Posted by insaaniyat Title should be " Will Afridi perform this time under his captaincy". We all know Misbah will. He has an average of almost 40 in ODI compare to 23 for Afridi

A bit too rich for a person who doesn't even deserve to be in the ODI side.. Nice!!

Anyway, title is what it should be. Don't bring Afridi's performance into this please..

[zahid01]

I think this thread should have been will afridi convince the selectors to keep him as a captain he has been hopless with his captaincy his bowling his questionable fielding and batting we all know can be hit and miss well there is not much going for him lucky to be in the team nevermind as a captain

[insaaniyat]

Originally Posted by Hamxa89 A bit too rich for a person who doesn't even deserve to be in the ODI side.. Nice!! Anyway, title is what it should be. Don't bring Afridi's performance into this please..

so the captain is not acountable for his performance , however other players are? Wow

[insaaniyat]

Originally Posted by zahid01 I think this thread should have been will afridi convince the selectors to keep him as a captain he has been hopless with his captaincy his bowling his questionable fielding and batting we all know can be hit and miss well there is not much going for him lucky to be in the team nevermind as a captain

don't tell that to Afridi fans

[786warrior]

Originally Posted by insaaniyat so the captain is not acountable for his performance , however other players are? Wow

Spot on!!! At least Misbah had the guts to come out and say that his own performance would be crucial and he promptly shut the faces of his detractors!!!

I'm an afridi fan but have to admit to being disappointed by his captaincy and his personal performances

[Hamxa89]

Originally Posted by insaaniyat so the captain is not acountable for his performance , however other players are? Wow

He certainly is. I bet you can find a billion threads to discuss that. Just meant that it should be discussed in the appropriate thread...

With all the revolts against captains in the past and the group-ism history attached with the Pakistan team, I think this topic is a pretty valid one.

[Looney]

Originally Posted by kkmix Afridi has to win the upcoming ODI series to retain his captaincy. simple. If he fails to do that then Misbah becomes the captain for WC.

Or maybe Misbah should be given this chance to work out a working combination for the WC and see how it works in the ODIs He has got the Midas touch

[cric]

If misbah performs with bat in odi, then pakistan most likely going to loose.

[Mobashir]

Originally Posted by Down2Earth you do know he's the vice captain right?

Yes I do.

[sunnykhan]

Yes! He will perform. That will make his case even more stronger to be the Captain of the team in WC.

[sultanator]

All PCB ever see are scorecards. If we lose the series all they need to see is a couple of Misbah 50s and all of Afridi's 0(1) or more recently his 2(4) scores and BAM, misbah is kuptaan.

[Dare2Dream]

Since ODIs only have 300 balls per side, it would be a miracle if he scores a century, even against minnows NZ that got beaten 4-0 by Bangladesh a month ago. In conclusion, I really doubt that he would make meaningful contributions without his usual tuk tuk wasting balls.

[786warrior]

Originally Posted by sultanator All PCB ever see are scorecards. If we lose the series all they need to see is a couple of Misbah 50s and all of Afridi's 0(1) or more recently his 2(4) scores and BAM, misbah is kuptaan.

yeah, but you can't argue with that??!!!

if Pak win the odi series with mediocre performances from afridi but he shows leadership and tactical skills then fair enough he should remain captain

if Pak lose due to poor leadership and tactics, but afridi plays well - he should be sacked as captain (because if the losses are attributed to tactical blunders, oversights, poor man-management then these are the captains duties!!!)

if Pak lose due to poor afridi leadership and performance then he's gone with the wind - especially if misbah performs well!!!!!

[Indiafan]

How sad it is, that now we start with doubting a player (of deliberating under performing for his own gains without any proof or previous misdeeds) and the onus is on the player to prove his innocence (by scoring). We live in sad times. I know the Pak team has gone through a lot recently but you still need to believe and back all your players who have till now given everything for the team. Be it Misbah or Afridi Its the only way Pak cricket is going to flourish

[161]

Misbah will perform.

The big question is will Afridi perform ?

His bowling has gone down the gutter recently .. and if that continues to be the case he does not deserve a spot in the final 11.

[anakwalajinn]

Salaam.

Misbah has to perform IF he want's to become captain.
He can not have a worse series than Afridi as a batsman, and then become the captain.

PCB Logic, I know

[Kray_jackson7]

Misbah will perform of course, He does not seem like the player who will delibratel;y underpoerform and shame on everyone who thinks he would.

But is he suited for ODIs? thats the question we should ask him

[saamry]

Misbah and YK have to be in excellent form during the WC. Asad, Umar have not shown to be able to play long inning consistently.

Captain or not, in absence of moyo, Misbah has to play well.

[Watsupdoc]

In my opinion he won't perform as well as some would expect (deliberate or not), but I hope I'm wrong.

[Shakil_pkcricket]

PCB has provided players to exercise player power and player politics.

[Shahrukh Khan]

Ask like this: Will Afridi perform if Misbah is named as Captain?

[Shakil_pkcricket]

Originally Posted by Mobashir Two things to note here : - Misbah never performs in ODI's, so it doens't matter to him who the captain is. - Afridi will not even play him in the final XI.

To accomodate Misbah in the playing eleven pcb has taken the following steps:

1) Dropped Fawad and Yousuf from the squad
2) Have made a playing eleven selection committee comprising Captain, Vice captain (Misbah), coach and manager. so Afridi can't dictate terms in not selecting him in the XI (remember what kami did after sydney test).

[sanakazmi]

Originally Posted by cric If misbah performs with bat in odi, then pakistan most likely going to loose.

this.

[qamar84]

Originally Posted by 786warrior i think he'll perform 200% to wake afridi up!!!!

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