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Old 26th January 2011, 20:01
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Man of the Match Awards and ..... Afridi.

A few keyboard-cricket-experts on PP bash Afridi for not being either a bowler or a batsman.... and not contributing to the Pakistan wins as much as other players do........ well, I got a little shock for them. Are you guys ready?

Man of the Series awards in T20 Matches:
Only player to get T20 Man of the Series Award more than once!
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Player Matches MOS Shahid Afridi 42 2 AC Botha 14 1 AR Cusack 16 1 JD Ryder 17 1 BAW Mendis 19 1 SK Raina 19 1 J Botha 26 1 DL Vettori 28 1 KC Sangakkara 29 1 KP Pietersen 30 1 TM Dilshan 32 1 Shoaib Malik 32 1

Man of the match awards in T20 Matches:
(Qual: 20 or more T20 matches).

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No. Player T20s MOM % MOM T20s 1 ST Jayasuriya 30 6 20.00% 2 CH Gayle 20 4 20.00% 3 Shahid Afridi 42 6 14.29% 4 Umar Akmal 21 3 14.29% 5 KP Pietersen 30 4 13.33% 6 Yuvraj Singh 23 3 13.04% 7 NL McCullum 25 3 12.00% 8 DA Warner 25 3 12.00% 9 MEK Hussey 27 3 11.11% 10 DL Vettori 28 3 10.71% 11 RG Sharma 20 2 10.00% 12 Jayawardene 32 3 9.38% 13 AB de Villiers 33 3 9.09% 14 SR Watson 22 2 9.09% 15 Umar Gul 34 3 8.82% 16 Salman Butt 24 2 8.33% 17 Younis Khan 25 2 8.00% 18 CL White 25 2 8.00% 19 Abdul Razzaq 26 2 7.69% 20 BB McCullum 40 3 7.50% 21 KC Sangakkara 29 2 6.90% 22 JP Duminy 30 2 6.67% 23 Misbah-ul-Haq 31 2 6.45% 24 JA Morkel 31 2 6.45% 25 GC Smith 31 2 6.45% 26 TM Dilshan 32 2 6.25% 27 PD Collingwood 35 2 5.71% 28 Kamran Akmal 38 2 5.26% 29 AD Mathews 21 1 4.76% 30 DJ Bravo 22 1 4.55% 31 G Gambhir 23 1 4.35% 32 J Botha 26 1 3.85% 33 MG Johnson 26 1 3.85% 34 DJ Hussey 28 1 3.57% 35 SCJ Broad 29 1 3.45% 36 LJ Wright 29 1 3.45% 37 SB Styris 31 1 3.23% 38 Shoaib Malik 32 1 3.13% 39 MJ Clarke 34 1 2.94%

Man of the match awards for Pakistani ODI Players:
(Qual: 200 or more ODIs).

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No. Player Mat MOM %MoM ODIs 1 Saeed Anwar 247 28 11.34% 2 Javed Miandad 233 18 7.73% 3 Abdul Razzaq 246 18 7.32% 4 Shahid Afridi 303 22 7.26% 5 Younis Khan 209 14 6.70% 6 Waqar Younis 262 17 6.49% 7 Mohammad Yousuf 281 18 6.41% 8 Inzamam-ul-Haq 375 24 6.40% 9 Wasim Akram 356 22 6.18% 10 Ijaz Ahmed 250 14 5.60% 11 Saleem Malik 283 13 4.59% 12 Moin Khan 219 3 1.37%

Wanna see how he compares with the world?

All Players with 200 or more ODIs.
(Qual: 200 or more ODIs).

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No Player Mat MOM % MoM ODI 1 SR Tendulkar 444 61 13.74% 2 Saeed Anwar 247 28 11.34% 3 NJ Astle 223 25 11.21% 4 ST Jayasuriya 444 48 10.81% 5 DL Haynes 238 25 10.50% 6 JH Kallis 307 32 10.42% 7 BC Lara 299 30 10.03% 8 SC Ganguly 311 31 9.97% 9 AC Gilchrist 287 28 9.76% 10 PA de Silva 308 30 9.74% 11 CH Gayle 220 21 9.55% 12 V Sehwag 228 21 9.21% 13 A Ranatunga 269 24 8.92% 14 HH Gibbs 248 22 8.87% 15 ME Waugh 244 21 8.61% 16 RT Ponting 352 30 8.52% 17 Yuvraj Singh 265 21 7.92% 18 Javed Miandad 233 18 7.73% 19 MS Atapattu 268 20 7.46% 20 SM Pollock 303 22 7.26% 21 Abdul Razzaq 250 18 7.20% 22 Shahid Afridi 308 22 7.14% 23 Younis Khan 209 14 6.70% 24 CL Hooper 227 15 6.61% 25 JN Rhodes 245 16 6.53% 26 Waqar Younis 262 17 6.49% 27 SR Waugh 325 21 6.46% 28 Inzamam-ul-Haq 378 24 6.35% 29 Mohammad Yousuf 288 18 6.25% 30 AR Border 273 17 6.23% 31 Wasim Akram 356 22 6.18% 32 S Chanderpaul 261 16 6.13% 33 SP Fleming 280 17 6.07% 34 GD McGrath 250 15 6.00% 35 KC Sangakkara 279 16 5.73% 36 Ijaz Ahmed 250 14 5.60% 37 GW Flower 221 12 5.43% 38 M Azharuddin 334 18 5.39% 39 MG Bevan 232 12 5.17% 40 A Flower 213 11 5.16% 41 Kapil Dev 225 11 4.89% 42 DR Martyn 208 10 4.81% 43 CL Cairns 215 10 4.65% 44 Saleem Malik 283 13 4.59% 45 Jayawardene 329 15 4.56% 46 RB Richardson 224 10 4.46% 47 R Dravid 339 14 4.13% 48 CZ Harris 250 10 4.00% 49 M Muralitharan 339 13 3.83% 50 DL Vettori 265 10 3.77% 51 RS Mahanama 213 8 3.76% 52 WPUJC Vaas 322 11 3.42% 53 CA Walsh 205 5 2.44% 54 A Kumble 271 6 2.21% 55 J Srinath 229 5 2.18% 56 Harbhajan Singh 217 4 1.84% 57 MV Boucher 292 3 1.03% 58 Moin Khan 219 3 1.37% 59 HP Tillakaratne 200 2 1.00%
Anybody noticed the names below Afridi in all 3 lists?

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Before you guys start bashing me, accusing me of blind lover, start jumping up and down, start banging your head against the wall, foam start to flow from your mouth...... please... please .... keep in mind;
1) Following are just stats from Cricinfo. I am just posting them without any opinion.

2) .... and before you impose your opinion over the facts from Cricinfo, also keep in mind that Man of the Match are generally selected by a ex-cricketers, cricket journalists and other cricket experts.


... and oh Anwaar Bhai.... need a hanky to wipe off the tears?
This post is dedicated to all the residents of Lala Land!
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:07
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i always look forward to your posts w63, nice work, but i think you miss the reason why so many people are annoyed with afridi, well me at least. its not that he has not contributed, he was instrumental in t20 2009, its that had he used his brain a bit more, and made better use of his batting talents, imagine how much greater influence he could have had on pakistani results.

conversely he has worked hard on his bowling, and become a far more potent bowler then his talent would suggest, he has leggies that dont spin much, a straigter one, and sometimes a quick one, yet his t20 and to some extent odi bowling feats are quite impressive.

the list makes me miss saeed anwar tho

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Old 26th January 2011, 20:11
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:13
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What about test cricket, the real form of cricket W63?
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:14
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This just illustrates his potential. Look at the names in that list above him and even underneath him. This guy had the chance to be one of the finest all-rounders to grace the sport, instead he's just another all-rounder in the large scheme of things.

These stats demonstrate the effect Afridi can have on a game. When he gets going he will surely alter the match in favour of Pakistan. Sadly, he tends to get going here and there with a lot of mediocrity in between.
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:15
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I like the fine print.

I seriously doubt anybody would suggest that Shahid has not done his part for Pakistan cricket.

it should have been a LOT more though, his sheer ability deserved that.
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:16
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What about test cricket, the real form of cricket W63?


I absolutely don't have any comment!

Raang main bhaang dalna iss ko kehtay hain!
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Move over S Rajesh, W63 is here!
Who is S Rajesh?
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Cricinfo's stats guy.
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^ Should've won one at Chennai but nobody wanted to be accused of blasphemy.
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:20
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I like the fine print.

I seriously doubt anybody would suggest that Shahid has not done his part for Pakistan cricket.

it should have been a LOT more though, his sheer ability deserved that.
Fully agreed!

And once again good work W63. You should have a title next to your name 'PP's stats man'
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:20
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Just a breakdown of his 22 ODI mom awards:

Zimbabwe - 5
Bangladesh - 2
Holland - 1
Kenya - 1
West Indies - 1
New Zealand -3

England - 1

Sri Lanka - 5
India - 2

South Africa - 1
Australia - 1
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:21
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^ Should've won one at Chennai but nobody wanted to be accused of blasphemy.
I am willing to give them all MOM and MOS awards in return for just that one victory!
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:21
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I absolutely don't have any comment!

Raang main bhaang dalna iss ko kehtay hain!
lol sorry to spoil the party W63.
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:22
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Just a breakdown of his 22 ODI mom awards:

Zimbabwe - 5
Bangladesh - 2
Holland - 1
Kenya - 1
West Indies - 1
New Zealand -3

England - 1

Sri Lanka - 5
India - 2

South Africa - 1
Australia - 1
Lol, thats an interesting angle to look at, would love to see it compared with Tendu & Lara.
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:22
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:23
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And once again good work W63. You should have a title next to your name 'PP's stats man'
hmmm

'PakPassion's S Rajesh'

sounds good

W63, manzoor hai?
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Great work W63. It shows that Afridi has the ability to get it done but as some of the posters hve already noted above he could have had so many more MOM beside his name if he had leanred to show more judgement while playing.

Another surprize for me in the list is YK, while he gets bashed for not being ODI player his ratio of 6.70 puts him over MoYo and Inzi....quite surprizing. Also, shows when he gets going he produces a match winner as well.
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:24
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Just a breakdown of his 22 ODI mom awards:

Zimbabwe - 5
Bangladesh - 2
Holland - 1
Kenya - 1
West Indies - 1
New Zealand -3

England - 1

Sri Lanka - 5
India - 2

South Africa - 1
Australia - 1
Are you trying to say that 13 out of his 22 ODI awards have been against weaker opposition,, i.e. nearly 60% ?
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:25
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Just a breakdown of his 22 ODI mom awards:

Zimbabwe - 5
Bangladesh - 2
Holland - 1
Kenya - 1


West Indies - 1
New Zealand -3

England - 1

Sri Lanka - 5
India - 2

South Africa - 1
Australia - 1
Too bad nobody from our team got any MOM award in the game against Ireland!

Plus... I'll let Anwaar reply to that... since he always brings up Malik's 10 wins against Zimbabwe and BD.
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:27
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lol sorry to spoil the party W63.
Yeh... Lala Land would have been up all night!

You might as well lock the thread and go home!
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:30
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Yeh... Lala Land would have been up all night!

You might as well lock the thread and go home!
Why are you not changing your venue to Lala Land?
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:32
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W63, manzoor hai?
3 baaar to nahi kehna paray ga? Aik dafa "3 baar" keh lia tha..... aab dobarah kehnay ka koi armaan nahi hai!!
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:36
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Tendulkar

Against Pakistan: 7
Against Australia: 12
Against South Africa: 5
Against NZ: 6
Against Sri Lanka: 6
Against England:2
Zimbabwe:8
West Indies :9

So Tendulkar has 17 Man of the Match award against SA/Australia while Afridi has just 2 , clearly shows what a big minnow Basher Afridi is, raises his performance only against Bangladesh , Zimbabwe or once in while against Phaasht Indian bowlers.

Quality of award matters , not just numbers .

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Old 26th January 2011, 20:42
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Zimbabwe - 3
Kenya - 1
West Indies - 1

India - 4
Sri Lanka - 1

South Africa - 2
Australia - 1
England - 1
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I agree his contribution is huge but some of us do think he could've achieved more.

Another thing that stands out for me is YK a so called ODI failure is right up there with legends of the game.
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W63, were these stats supposed to make Afridi look good?

Cause these 'breakdowns' and Saj's remark about Test certainly paint another picture
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:46
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Tendulkar

Against Pakistan: 7
Against Australia: 12
Against South Africa: 5
Against NZ: 6
Against Sri Lanka: 6
Against England:2
Zimbabwe:8
West Indies :9

So Tendulkar has 19 Man of the Match award against SA/Australia while Afridi has just 2 , clearly shows what a big minnow Basher Afridi is
Not that I want to turn this thread into Sachin vs Afridi ... because ... but.. everybody has bashed minnows of their choice when they got a chance....specially the 2nd highest scorer in ODIs against minnows;
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Also, Afridi has never been a MOM in 30 ODI tournament finals and 3 semi-finals.
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:49
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Are you trying to say that 13 out of his 22 ODI awards have been against weaker opposition,, i.e. nearly 60% ?
Just presenting a fuller picture for my fellow PPers
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W63, were these stats supposed to make Afridi look good?

Cause these 'breakdowns' and Saj's remark about Test certainly paint another picture
read post # 30 and ask the question about break down one more time.

As far as test are concerned, he never played enought test matches to be rated... plus I do not consider him test match player.
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Not that I want to turn this thread into Sachin vs Afridi ... because ... but.. everybody has bashed minnows of their choice when they got a chance....specially the 2nd highest scorer in ODIs against minnows;

I dont know whats the need to show these stats since its known that most of Players including Tendulkar , Afridi , Lara have bashed the minnows in their careers.

But these guys have put performances and won awards against stronger teams such as Australia and South Africa as well, so why is Afridi lagging so behind in there comparison?

Just one MoM award against Australia for Afridi in 38 Odis that too was for bowling in UAE
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Unfair to bring up Afridi's Test record. Dude's retired from the format and has played 1 Test in the last 5 years. Though I have to admit, after his initial promise (5fer vs Aus on debut, century vs India in Test #2) and even the renewed hopes in 05-06, it is extremely disappointing to see how his Test career turned out to amount to nothing eventually.

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So afridites do you still consider YK an odi failure?
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Old 26th January 2011, 20:55
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W63, another interesting breakdown of these stats would be to see how many of his MoTM awards were given for his performances in bowling vs. batting.

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read post # 30 and ask the question about break down one more time.
That doesn't answer my question.
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clearly shows what a big minnow Basher Afridi is, raises his performance only against Bangladesh , Zimbabwe or once in while against Phaasht Indian bowlers.
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I dont know whats the need to show these stats since its known that most of Players including Tendulkar , Afridi , Lara have bashed the minnows in their careers.
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you are running away from the point once again , Tendulkar has 17 MOM award against Aus/SA along with minnow bashing, but Afridi looks just a silly minnow basher with 9 MOM awards against Zimbabwe/Bangladesh/Holland/Kenya and no significant contribution against top teams

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Old 26th January 2011, 21:02
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interesting stats Not trying to jump on the Afridi bashing band wagon but the stats dont paint the full picture. Those MOM performances were probably the ONLY time Afridi contributed significantly towards the team's victory. You don't often see Afridi scoring good 30s and 40s on a consistent basis. Its either a quick fire 50 or a golden duck so to speak.
His bowling has been quite handy though. I'll give him that much.
Would be interesting to see the #MOM awards he won on his bowling alone...
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:03
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W63, another interesting breakdown of these stats would be to see how many of his MoTM awards were given for his performances in bowling vs. batting.
yes.. it would be intersting but Cricinfo does not provide the query by individual MotM.

I bet most of his awards came from contributing with bat and ball.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:05
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Just checked Javed Miandad stats. Javed has won 3 MOM awards in 12 finals.

His average in 12 finals is 55.33.

72.33 in finals won.

46.83 in finals lost.

Impressive stats, that I actually wasn't aware of.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:06
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To be fair to afridi he was man of finals in our second biggest odi tournament win In 90s VB series 97 in Aus.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:06
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Afridi has 3 Mom Award for his bowling performance , 1 each against Kenya , England in Odi series at Lahore and Australia in Uae

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Old 26th January 2011, 21:07
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you are running away from the point once again , Tendulkar has 17 MOM award against Aus/SA along with minnow bashing, but Afridi looks just a silly minnow basher with 9 MOM awards against Zimbabwe/Bangladesh/Holland/Kenya and no significant contribution against top teams
Look at the OP's last statsguru screenshot. Tendulkar is at #1 with almost double the percentage of ODI MoTM awards won by Afridi, who is at #22. Don't think the OP was suggesting he's better than Tendulkar.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:08
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Afridi has 3 Mom Award for his bowling performance , 1 each against Kenya , England in Last Odi series and Australia in Uae
1st was in Champions Trophy 2004 I believe.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:09
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1st was in Champions Trophy 2004 I believe.

Yes at Birmingham in 2004 , Kenya were bowled out for 94
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:11
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Good Posts by W63 but miandadrules post was even better.

Loved it.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:14
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He took a 5fer in an odi against Eng at home in 2000s series.Must have won MOM for that.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:17
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:17
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Good Posts by W63 but miandadrules post was even better.

Loved it.
How about mine highlighting how a so called ODI failure has won MOM award more often then some of our legends.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:18
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:21
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Look at the OP's last statsguru screenshot. Tendulkar is at #1 with almost double the percentage of ODI MoTM awards won by Afridi, who is at #22. Don't think the OP was suggesting he's better than Tendulkar.
Thanks SK!

They conveniently ignored this comment in OP... or they just need to see an eye doctor!
"Anybody noticed the names below Afridi in all 3 lists?"

But they had to pick the players above him...... .
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:23
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Dont understand what exactly is the reason for this thread. No one in his right mind would leave Afridi out of T20 team. His 15ball 25 cameo is really usefull in T20 games. We all know that.

This thread also proves that Afridi is a minnow basher when it comes to ODI (I am not including test here as anyway he has not played test cricket much). His record against minnows is as good as any top allrounders, both batting and bowling. But against top teams, as bad as any tail ender or 6th bowler in the team.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:26
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Thanks SK!

They conveniently ignored this comment in OP... or they just need to see an eye doctor!
"Anybody noticed the names below Afridi in all 3 lists?"

But they had to pick the players above him...... .
Btw, do you maintain your own database or do use StatsGuru exclusively? Might've asked you this in an earlier thread, but if you know of any databases that keep more info or even the same but at least let you run your own SQL queries, do share them.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:28
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A few keyboard-cricket-experts on PP bash Afridi for not being either a bowler or a batsman.... and not contributing to the Pakistan wins as much as other players do........ well, I got a little shock for them. Are you guys ready?

Man of the Series awards in T20 Matches:
Only player to get T20 Man of the Series Award more than once!



Man of the match awards in T20 Matches:
(Qual: 20 or more T20 matches).




Man of the match awards for Pakistani ODI Players:
(Qual: 200 or more ODIs).




Wanna see how he compares with the world?

All Players with 200 or more ODIs.
(Qual: 200 or more ODIs).



Anybody noticed the names below Afridi in all 3 lists?



This post is dedicated to all the residents of Lala Land!

change criteria for least odi matches to 190 and see who comes on top

shoaib malik 192 matches 15 match awards
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:30
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Abdul Razzaq:

Australia - 2
South Africa - 2

England - 1

Sri Lanka - 3
India - 1

West Indies - 3
New Zealand - 3
Kenya - 1
Zimbabwe - 2
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:33
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Abdul Razzaq:

Australia - 2
South Africa - 2

England - 1

Sri Lanka - 3
India - 1

West Indies - 3
New Zealand - 3
Kenya - 1
Zimbabwe - 2

def more reliable and better matchwinner than great lala.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:33
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I actually like the thread, shows where the players and legends stand in terms of match winning abilities (Younus was a surprise). Just doesn't help Afridi's case much when we see the details
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:33
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Just a breakdown of his 22 ODI mom awards:

Zimbabwe - 5
Bangladesh - 2
Holland - 1
Kenya - 1
West Indies - 1
New Zealand -3
Impressive.. Very impressive.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:34
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How about mine highlighting how a so called ODI failure has won MOM award more often then some of our legends.
W63 and mindadrules can't even come close to your post. Younis Khan is one of the most underrated ODI Player.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:34
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lol, great post W63
is a true match winner
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:35
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I absolutely don't have any comment!

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But you did have a comment!
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:35
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Btw, do you maintain your own database or do use StatsGuru exclusively? Might've asked you this in an earlier thread, but if you know of any databases that keep more info or even the same but at least let you run your own SQL queries, do share them.
I use Statsguru from Cricinfo exclusively and then put the lists in a to massage the data. I would love to but don't have my own database!
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:36
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Abdul Razzaq:

Australia - 2
South Africa - 2

England - 1

Sri Lanka - 3
India - 1

West Indies - 3
New Zealand - 3
Kenya - 1
Zimbabwe - 2
another reason why Abdul Razzaq is way better than shahid Khan Afridi.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:37
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Abdul Razzaq:

Australia - 2
South Africa - 2

England - 1

Sri Lanka - 3
India - 1

West Indies - 3
New Zealand - 3
Kenya - 1
Zimbabwe - 2
this thread is not to have a debate over abdul and afridi, all afridites, almost all admire the ability of Abdul Razzaq, so no point being daal main kaala.

and + has anyone notice how good abdul has become since he has started using boom boom bat
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:37
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:38
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:40
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Just checked Javed Miandad stats. Javed has won 3 MOM awards in 12 finals.

His average in 12 finals is 55.33.

72.33 in finals won.

46.83 in finals lost.

Impressive stats, that I actually wasn't aware of.
Miandad was a real champ. Any captain would like to have a player like him in his team. Real fighter. He gets so much respect whenever he comes to India. Unlike Afridi..He doesn't get any respect in any of the other countries. People just laugh at him.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:41
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change criteria for least odi matches to 190 and see who comes on top

shoaib malik 192 matches 15 match awards
Yeah, I'm interested in seeing what things would look like if you change the criteria to 150 matches.

Btw, even if you bring your criteria down to a 100 ODIs, Misbah doesn't qualify. I thought this was an interesting stat: Darren Sammy, Peter Borren (Netherlands) & Will Porterfield (Ireland) are the only WC captains who have played fewer ODI innings than Misbah. (Sammy 32, Borren 33, Porterfield 44).

[Didn't mean to turn this into another Misbah/Afridi comparison, just wanted to point out that that's why you don't see Misbah's name feature on this list, and not because he hasn't won any MoTM awards.]

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Old 26th January 2011, 21:43
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def more reliable and better matchwinner than great lala.
And not a minnowbasher either.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:46
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lol, great post W63
is a true match winner
Are you being Sarcastic? Or did you not read Miandadrules's breakdown?
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:48
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Miandad was a real champ. Any captain would like to have a player like him in his team. Real fighter. He gets so much respect whenever he comes to India. Unlike Afridi..He doesn't get any respect in any of the other countries. People just laugh at him.
How old were you when 1996 WC Q-Final was played in Bangalore and Miandad was fielding at the boundry?

..and you must also not know how Indians took his son's wedding to that guy in Dubai!

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Unlike Afridi..He doesn't get any respect in any of the other countries. People just laugh at him.
Show me one laughing ..... or even smiling face among these 50/60 thousand fans!
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:49
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I use Statsguru from Cricinfo exclusively and then put the lists in a to massage the data. I would love to but don't have my own database!
I may not agree with you on some of your Threads. But one thing I should appreciate is, no one in PP could massage the data like you. You are a real Stats guru in PP.
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:53
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How old were you when 1996 WC Q-Final was played in Bangalore and Miandad was fielding at the boundry?

Miandad with the "King of Mumbai"

http://im.rediff.com/news/2004/jul/30look.jpg
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:53
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so performing against 'minnows' is bad? no wonder we lost 2007 world cup, poor Bob woolmer, his team were full of players who were too good to perform against 'less talented sides'
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Old 26th January 2011, 21:54
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