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Old 29th January 2011, 11:53
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Afridi's performance with the bat last year

The following is Afridi's batting statistics in his previous 21 ODI's between Jan 22 2010 - Jan 26 2011.


Matches: 21
High Score:124
Runs: 681
Average: 34.05
Noticeable Scores: 124, 109, 65, 49, 48 , 40 , 37, 34, 32


Afridi's career average is 24. I would consider this past year a really good one for Afridi. Lots of useful contributions.

Despite some of the recent criticism, his ODI form has remained fairly consistant. Lets hope for a bigger and better 2011.

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Old 29th January 2011, 12:02
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Wow Another Afridi thread, why dont you just ask the MODs to just make an Afridi forum where all you and the other kids can go and post on.
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Old 29th January 2011, 12:07
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Couldn't have said it better Amjid, gets boring seeing a new Afridi thread created every 5 mins.
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Old 29th January 2011, 12:07
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AJ You were probably the last person Crucifier wanted to see on this thread and you post before anyone else
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Old 29th January 2011, 12:07
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And whats so "kiddy" about this thread? You are having a hard time with Crucifer everyone can see that, it doesn't mean that you start to run after him in every thread or does it?

This is actually a very good thread, for all those posters who keep on saying that Afridi is failing as captain need to have a look at the stats, isn't an improvement of 10 in average a big one?

I seriously can't see anything "kiddy" in this thread. Although I like your idea about a different forum where so called "matures" don't come and let us "kids" have our fun.
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Old 29th January 2011, 12:07
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Wow Another Afridi thread, why dont you just ask the MODs to just make an Afridi forum where all you and the other kids can go and post on.

Your childish nature of posts are seriously bringing the standard of quality down on these boards.

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AJ You were probably the last person Crucifier wanted to see on this thread and you post before anyone else
Actually, this thread was made for people who don't understand cricket that well and need to be spood fed stats. AJ will feel right at home. I have my AJ bib, dummy and highchair ready.

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Old 29th January 2011, 12:08
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Wow Another Afridi thread, why dont you just ask the MODs to just make an Afridi forum where all you and the other kids can go and post on.
That`s a good idea, but even better, why don`t the mods rename the site as Afridipassion??
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Old 29th January 2011, 12:09
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That`s a good idea, but even better, why don`t the mods rename the site as Afridipassion??
or Misbah needs Pension
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Old 29th January 2011, 12:13
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AJ You were probably the last person Crucifier wanted to see on this thread and you post before anyone else
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Old 29th January 2011, 12:14
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Old 29th January 2011, 12:18
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And whats so "kiddy" about this thread? You are having a hard time with Crucifer everyone can see that, it doesn't mean that you start to run after him in every thread or does it?

This is actually a very good thread, for all those posters who keep on saying that Afridi is failing as captain need to have a look at the stats, isn't an improvement of 10 in average a big one?

I seriously can't see anything "kiddy" in this thread. Although I like your idea about a different forum where so called "matures" don't come and let us "kids" have our fun.
There are already threads on Afridis captaincy. So why the need to create another one?

Why couldnt Crucifer make his points know on that thread and say look here are his batting stats.

What next? Afridi makes better Breakfast then Misbah for the boys thread? So on that basis he should be captain.

Or Afridi has more hair then Misbah so he should be captain thread?

No offence but its getting boring!Afridi is a good players, but some people are taking it over board with how they go on and on about him.

Seriously i thought Indian Fans went on and on about sachin and how pretty much hes a got, but as far as Some PPers go they have exceeded past that limit!
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Old 29th January 2011, 12:19
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We need results this year more than statistical performances.
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Old 29th January 2011, 12:19
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The following is Afridi's batting statistics in his previous 21 ODI's between Jan 22 2010 - Jan 26 2011.


Matches: 21
High Score:124
Runs: 681
Average: 34.05
Noticeable Scores: 124, 109, 65, 49, 48 , 40 , 37, 34, 32


Afridi's career average is 24. I would consider this past year a really good one for Afridi. Lots of useful contributions.

Despite some of the recent criticism, his ODI form has remained fairly consistant. Lets hope for a bigger and better 2011.
Very nice stats for a world class/Top Class leg spinner
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Old 29th January 2011, 12:24
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[B]What next? Afridi makes better Breakfast then Misbah for the boys thread? So on that basis he should be captain.[b]


How do you know that. I thought that was a secret. There must be some traitor in our ranks or you might be a hidden "kid" yourself.


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Or Afridi has more hair then Misbah so he should be captain thread?
Now that is a Universal Truth, even you can not deny this, or can you?
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Old 29th January 2011, 12:26
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Very nice stats for a world class/Top Class leg spinner
Indeed who happened to be his country's top run scorer in the last year.
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Old 29th January 2011, 12:46
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but I thought he was a bowling all rounder, what was his average with the ball in the same time?
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Old 29th January 2011, 12:48
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but I thought he was a bowling all rounder, what was his average with the ball in the same time?
Yes, he is a bowling all-rounder, so contributions with the bat count too.

As much as I know (I might be wrong), he was the highest (or 2nd highest) wicket taker for Pakistan in the last year.
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Old 29th January 2011, 13:20
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Old 29th January 2011, 13:33
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Yes, he is a bowling all-rounder, so contributions with the bat count too.

As much as I know (I might be wrong), he was the highest (or 2nd highest) wicket taker for Pakistan in the last year.
I ll ask the same question again Wt was his bowling avge last yr?
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Old 29th January 2011, 13:38
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I ll ask the same question again Wt was his bowling avge last yr?
50,000 runs per wicket.

Got hit for five sixes in every over.

Even then he took the most No of wickets.
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Old 29th January 2011, 13:38
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I ll ask the same question again Wt was his bowling avge last yr?



now people are going to attack his bowling even though he is our best spinner


p.s a few hours ago he bowled superb limiting the opposition to 4.5 RPO in a 300 run chase
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Old 29th January 2011, 13:39
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His Bowling average in last 1 year is 45.40 but batting average has been good , so cant complain.
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Old 29th January 2011, 13:44
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ok what would fans choose ideally ...... bat avg 25 bowl avg 30............or bat avg 35 bowl avg 40??????? or is it the same
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Old 29th January 2011, 13:54
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its ironic, how afridi still gets criticism after a breath taking knock
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Old 29th January 2011, 14:06
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Old 29th January 2011, 14:22
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I Sign in to PP and and cricket forum looks like this after stickies.
Same was the situation 2 days back but it was against afridi and today its in favour of afridi. Two extremes. Afridi is the most loved/liked and hated cricketer in the world.

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Old 29th January 2011, 14:28
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Wow Another Afridi thread, why dont you just ask the MODs to just make an Afridi forum where all you and the other kids can go and post on.
There is one already. Someone showed me it about year but can't remember the name of site. It was setup by hardcore Afridi fan’s (all from this site). I had lot of respect for most of them guys but forum was full of filth. I have seen intellectual post on this forum by poster (he is posting in some current threads) but posted filth on that forum.
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Old 29th January 2011, 14:31
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Old 29th January 2011, 14:36
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There is one already. Someone showed me it about year but can't remember the name of site. It was setup by hardcore Afridi fan’s (all from this site). I had lot of respect for most of them guys but forum was full of filth. I have seen intellectual post on this forum by poster (he is posting in some current threads) but posted filth on that forum.
what site? i should pay a visit
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Old 29th January 2011, 14:36
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There are already threads on Afridis captaincy. So why the need to create another one?

Why couldnt Crucifer make his points know on that thread and say look here are his batting stats.

What next? Afridi makes better Breakfast then Misbah for the boys thread? So on that basis he should be captain.

Or Afridi has more hair then Misbah so he should be captain thread?

No offence but its getting boring!Afridi is a good players, but some people are taking it over board with how they go on and on about him.

Seriously i thought Indian Fans went on and on about sachin and how pretty much hes a got, but as far as Some PPers go they have exceeded past that limit!
Amjid if I was you I wouldn't bother explaining your point - especially to Afridi_Fan.

He's the type of 'harcore' fan who would eat Afridi's manure and call it chocolate.
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Old 29th January 2011, 14:37
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The strike rate of Afridi threads on PP is very healthy, just like the beast.........so lets talk about Afridi thread averages.
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Old 29th January 2011, 14:37
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There is one already. Someone showed me it about year but can't remember the name of site. It was setup by hardcore Afridi fan’s (all from this site). I had lot of respect for most of them guys but forum was full of filth. I have seen intellectual post on this forum by poster (he is posting in some current threads) but posted filth on that forum.
I know what you are talking about. Why don't you stop visiting the forums which are "filthy" according to you. And no, I'm not the poster Mr Saqlain_doosra has reffered in his post, but I know the forum.
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Old 29th January 2011, 14:39
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do we say anything, when you guys are opening all the hatriot threads and criticism threads on afridi?? NO we dont, infact we come in and face you guys

when we open a thread regarding Afridi, you guys chicken out and starts blabbering
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We know your friend asad isnt in the team but that doesnt mean you can insult other members on this forum.
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Old 29th January 2011, 14:41
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Amjid if I was you I wouldn't bother explaining your point - especially to Afridi_Fan.

He's the type of 'harcore' fan who would eat Afridi's manure and call it chocolate.
Sorry, but I think I'm not a Fabregas fan, because his fans are known for that ritual. Have doubts? See the mirror.

Alhamdulilah I'm a Muslim and my religion teaches me not to do that.
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Old 29th January 2011, 14:42
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As a fan of 19 years of the game and Pakistan cricket, I have noticed some are obsessed with Afridi and others don't like him as he is not consistent

However, nothing wrong with the thread- an average of 34 is decent- but it's more the METHOD of getting out and the SITUATION when he gets out Crucifier that's the problem!
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Old 29th January 2011, 14:42
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what site? i should pay a visit
You do know what site he is talking about mak. Or should I give you a hint?
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You do know what site he is talking about mak. Or should I give you a hint?
Of course i know, it is my homepage
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Couldn't have said it better Amjid, gets boring seeing a new Afridi thread created every 5 mins.
Maybe you should go watch a replay of Misbah's innings instead.

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We know your friend asad isnt in the team but that doesnt mean you can insult other members on this forum.
I was being sarcastic, that was no personal attack.

Although I'm a huge fan of Asad Shafiq - I can guarantee you that I don't hype or praise him every game he plays in constantly, infact have a flick through my other posts.

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Sorry, but I think I'm not a Fabregas fan, because his fans are known for that ritual. Have doubts? See the mirror.

Alhamdulilah I'm a Muslim and my religion teaches me not to do that.
It's not as if you're not a fan of an Manchester United player .
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I was being sarcastic, that was no personal attack.

Although I'm a huge fan of Asad Shafiq - I can guarantee you that I don't hype or praise him every game he plays in constantly, infact have a flick through my other posts.



It's not as if you're not a fan of an Manchester United player .
thats because hes no where close to what afridi is lol
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Old 29th January 2011, 14:50
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I was being sarcastic, that was no personal attack.

Although I'm a huge fan of Asad Shafiq - I can guarantee you that I don't hype or praise him every game he plays in constantly, infact have a flick through my other posts.



It's not as if you're not a fan of an Manchester United player .
That felt like a personal attack thats why you got the answer. Other than that I have got nothing against you.
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Old 29th January 2011, 14:52
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or Misbah needs Pension
, so funny yet so true.


Anyways back to the point, it is so surprising than despite Afridi playing a sensational innings he is getting critisized by some people. (I wont mention any names )
This shows that truely you are not a Pak fan because he built a partnership of 100+ runs to give us this win and yet people still complain. Also I think many PPers have selective memory or short memory span because just a coule of hours ago Lala was bowling superbly(as complemented by many ppers, who were not satisfied by his recent bowling form)

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Old 29th January 2011, 14:55
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, so funny yet so true.


Anyways back to the point, it is so surprising than despite Afridi playing a sensational innings he is getting critisized by some people. (I wont mention any names )
This shows that truely you are not a Pak fan because he built a partnership of 100+ runs to give us this win and yet people still complain.
You'll get use to it on this forum. Nothing new, same old things happening time and again.
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Old 29th January 2011, 14:55
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One of the reasons Afridi was the 2nd leading wicket taker last year was because he played all the matches.

Akhtar: 19 wickets in 13 games
Gul: 15 wickets in 8 games
Afridi: 19 wickets in 18 games at an average of 40 odd

Dont be deceived!

His captaincy and batting are two different things.

We are a good team, with a mediocre/poor captain.
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Old 29th January 2011, 14:59
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One of the reasons Afridi was the 2nd leading wicket taker last year was because he played all the matches.

Akhtar: 19 wickets in 13 games
Gul: 15 wickets in 8 games
Afridi: 19 wickets in 18 games at an average of 40 odd

Dont be deceived!

His captaincy and batting are two different things.

We are a good team, with a mediocre/poor captain.
Uff, I knew this was coming why cant you just give credit where it is due? (btw this thread is looking at his batting performances not bowling. But i forgot you just need something to bash him about)

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Old 29th January 2011, 15:05
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thats because hes no where close to what afridi is lol
Potential is certainly there, but yet again when Asad does have good game (especially in the tests) you'll hardly see me hyping him.

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That felt like a personal attack thats why you got the answer. Other than that I have got nothing against you.
Apologies if you did. There's no reason why I would attack a fellow PP'er who also like me is active in terms of posting in the Sports corner although he is a Manchester United fan .

on the Afridi issue :-

I firmly believe he's the ideal type of character and player to lead the side ahead of the World cup.

Afridi may not be a world-class captain he certainly has the abilities and the right mind-set for a captain which is offensive, and that's what you expect in a format like ODI.

Afridi was superb in the 3rd ODI with the bat and also played a important role with the bowl especially when it came to getting the NZ's run rate down.

I also think that if we are to see the best and the most out of Afridi then the ideal time for him to come out is during the powerplays - Hafeez and Misbah played a important role as they stuck in till the powerplays if Pakistan can continue to this in the future which will allow the likes of Razzaq, Umar Amal and Afridi come out during powerplays then I guess this could be a key tactic to use ahead of the World cup.

But threads like "he should be back in test" etc are really annoying and frustating to see.
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Old 29th January 2011, 15:07
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AJ You were probably the last person Crucifier wanted to see on this thread and you post before anyone else
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Old 29th January 2011, 15:11
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Yeah well every time he posts a thread i will ensure that i post my thoughts on it
go go bro don't let him take a breath
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Old 29th January 2011, 15:16
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Old 29th January 2011, 16:17
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There is one already. Someone showed me it about year but can't remember the name of site. It was setup by hardcore Afridi fan’s (all from this site). I had lot of respect for most of them guys but forum was full of filth. I have seen intellectual post on this forum by poster (he is posting in some current threads) but posted filth on that forum.
Yeah well the filth seems to have been brought over here now as well!
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Old 29th January 2011, 16:18
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We know your friend asad isnt in the team but that doesnt mean you can insult other members on this forum.
Asad? who? what are you going on about.
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Old 29th January 2011, 17:21
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The following is Afridi's batting statistics in his previous 21 ODI's between Jan 22 2010 - Jan 26 2011.


Matches: 21
High Score:124
Runs: 681
Average: 34.05
Noticeable Scores: 124, 109, 65, 49, 48 , 40 , 37, 34, 32


Afridi's career average is 24. I would consider this past year a really good one for Afridi. Lots of useful contributions.

Despite some of the recent criticism, his ODI form has remained fairly consistant. Lets hope for a bigger and better 2011.
Clutching at straws

What next...Afridi broke wind
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Old 29th January 2011, 22:09
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One of the reasons Afridi was the 2nd leading wicket taker last year was because he played all the matches.

Akhtar: 19 wickets in 13 games
Gul: 15 wickets in 8 games
Afridi: 19 wickets in 18 games at an average of 40 odd

Dont be deceived!

His captaincy and batting are two different things.

We are a good team, with a mediocre/poor captain.
He played more games? the reason is simple, Afridi has a good fitness level
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its ironic, how afridi still gets criticism after a breath taking knock
Exactly. Breath taking knock is the reason for criticism, they come once in a blue moon. However, last night after the win, I felt he derserved the accolade without any if, but or may be. He was just superb in all aspect of the game.
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Old 30th January 2011, 01:29
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Just my post from another thread:

'Amazing, amazing knock. Violence. Yes, he wouldn't have played that knock HAD Hafeez not scored his century at the pace he did, so credit has to go to Hafeez too, but in the end his knock was the difference between us putting up 220 (or possibly even something like 210 all out had he gotten out for a low score) and us putting up 290+ on the board. Had we put up 220, we would have lost.'
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I know what you are talking about. Why don't you stop visiting the forums which are "filthy" according to you. And no, I'm not the poster Mr Saqlain_doosra has reffered in his post, but I know the forum.
There is always limit to supporting a player. I like Afridi's style of player and have supported to him over the year(but not over team cause). I would never make it my fetish fantasy posting about Afirdi and I'm sure he won't like it either.

I haven't visited for over a year and forgot the name of it. It had post by 4 posters, of whom I had high respect for 2.


I can confirm it's not this guy with on that forum with filthy post.
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There is always limit to supporting a player. I like Afridi's style of player and have supported to him over the year(but not over team cause). I would never make it my fetish fantasy posting about Afirdi and I'm sure he won't like it either.

I haven't visited for over a year and forgot the name of it. It had post by 4 posters, of whom I had high respect for 2.


I can confirm it's not this guy with on that forum with filthy post.
Name and shame them?
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Old 30th January 2011, 13:35
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Uff, I knew this was coming why cant you just give credit where it is due? (btw this thread is looking at his batting performances not bowling. But i forgot you just need something to bash him about)
Excuse me. Please mind your manners. No need for the sarcasm. Someone in this thread was actually referring to him being the 2nd leading wicket taker as well. I was therefore providing some evidence that this does not necessarily give the best of indications of how well he has been bowling. I give full credit where its due thank you very much. I like Afridi as a player and character, but this over excessive support and appreciation is unreasonable. If you lot did not hype him up as much and make him sound bigger than he actually is, these bashing threads would not exist in the first place. I have an honest and unbiased approach.
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