Should YK Retire From ODI After World Cup?

[Dr Khan]

I am a big fan of YK. For me he has been our most reliable and consistent test player for the last few years. I am a fan of not only his cricket but also of his honesty, dedication and commitment.

Having said that lately he has been struggling in limited over games. I think he should retire gracefully from ODI after world cup to lengthen his test career. We need him more in tests and concentrating only on the longer version will be the best option. What do you think?

[Watsupdoc]

I think he should. We should groom some young players after this world cup, but who knows if YK does well he might as well continue like

[emclub]

I think he should and so should Misbah and Akhtar

[Osman]

definitely!

[subhek]

no he should not retire from odi for atleast 2 years as pakistani middle order is green. They need someone who can groom them and who better than the gr8 khan. After that it all depends on his form if he would be in form then let him play otherwise retire him gracefully

ps: this coming from a fan across the border. I am a fan of this guy
batting wise and also the way he always plays with a smile on his face. what a gr8 human being

[GOAT]

Perhaps not right away (depending how he does) but soon after it, yes. Hopefully the PCB will schedule more Tests to accommodate our oldies.

Question of who to replace him comes up but I think Fawad or Asad should do the job just fine.. need some mentoring though.

[Bullet Drive]

Nonono.

He should stay to groom players.

NOBODY RETIRE!

AFRIDI DONT GO!

[*sallu*]

Not if he performs, hes fit enough, fitter than most in the team.

[Khan88]

Depends on his performance in the tournament. But, once Younis and Misbah become Test only players like Dravid/Laxman, our Test unit will be even stronger.

[hasanmehmoodkhan]

depends if he still having fun

[cric]

yes, i am 100% sure, he will retire right after world cup, if pakistan win world cup. and i am sure 200% sure that, he will come back after 1 year from retirement.

[TalhaSyed]

Sure why not....
....I'm sure he'll be back soon after

[Gollum]

YK should retire and assume captaincy of the Test team where he belongs!

[ChennaiFan]

I think he should become the captain if he is interested.

[AZ]

most definitely, let Shafiq or Azhar compete for the no. 3 spot.

YK should continue in Tests though.

[*sallu*]

And what if he scores plenty?

Should still retire?

[AZ]

yes.

[insaaniyat]

He should takeover the captaincy afte the world cup.

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by AZ yes.

Why?

Assuming he performs, he still has 2-3 years in him.

[AZ]

because he won't be around for the next WC.

and your assumption is a pretty big one, he hasn't performed in ODIs for the last 2 years.

[*sallu*]

Which is why I'm saying if he performs in the world cup.

So you're willing to sacrifice 2-3 years of performances, which could help us climb up the rankings?

I don't understand this policy of making wholesale changes to a side after a world cup, only Pakistan does this, and this is why we suffer in world cups.
Let the team play its natural course, let players retire when they're finished and have nothing to offer or at least close to their finish, not only once in 4 years.

Edit: and by this logic, Akhtar, Razzaq, Misbah, Younis, Afridi, Yousuf should all retire.
And we expect Pakistan to perform with stability.

[SAF]

He should play as long as he can. Certainly fit enough to play 2-3 more years.

[AZ]

half of them should have already been kicked out.

experience doesn't count for squat without performance.

after WC, we will play 'easier' teams.

perfect time to rejuvenate the team.

[insaaniyat]

Originally Posted by Shahid Afridi's Fan He should play as long as he can. Certainly fit enough to play 2-3 more years.

Exactly

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by AZ half of them should have already been kicked out. experience doesn't count for squat without performance. after WC, we will play 'easier' teams. perfect time to rejuvenate the team.

Like how we rejuvenate the team after every world cup and end up with a total age and experience imbalance in the side.

My point is not that Younis should play after the world cup, its that deserving players should be in the side after the world cup even if they can offer a year or 2 of valuable services to the side which will help the side more than making wholesale changes.

As you can see, Pakistan is one of the only sides that totally goes through the rebuilding process after every world cup to prepare for the next world cup and look at our world cup performances.

[AZ]

your point is based on fiction.

fact is that YK probably shouldn't even be in the ODi team, the ideal man for the job was not picked for inexplicable reasons.

YK doesn't even have the record to suggest that he should be there on past glories.

the sporadic nature of the seniors' performances are there for everyone to see and cannot be denied, and they need to be shown the door sooner rather than later.

[*sallu*]

My first and main point was If he performs hence your post above is pointless

You said irrespective of his performance, he should retire, where I disagree

[AZ]

if he performs and if Pakistan do well then that would be the best time for him to leave.

sadly he tried that once, only to 'make himself available' again and tarnish his reputation with woeful performances.

[SAF]

Originally Posted by AZ if he performs and if Pakistan do well then that would be the best time for him to leave. sadly he tried that once, only to 'make himself available' again and tarnish his reputation with woeful performances.

Who said his reputation was/is tarnished? And if i remember correctly, it was the PCB who asked him to comeback.

[*sallu*]

Hes talking about the t20s

[*sallu*]

I will answer this poll after his world cup performances, to see if he still has it or not

[Desire]

i think yes. if he wants to prolong his career at test level he should resign from t20 and odis. we need a really good performing batsman in tests. yk can be that. even in tests he need to rediscover himself. He need to step up as a leading batsman. which he wasnt required under the umbrela of inzi and moyo.

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by Desire i think yes. if he wants to prolong his career at test level he should resign from t20 and odis. we need a really good performing batsman in tests. yk can be that. even in tests he need to rediscover himself. He need to step up as a leading batsman. which he wasnt required under the umbrela of inzi and moyo.

Well hes stepped up in the 2 series since his comeback, lets hope he can continue

[nomz15]

At the end of the day when we do make these so called "whole sale changes" we collapse as a side too often and bring back these veterans like YK, Yousaf, Misbah etc. Which proves to be costly for our young players and their development.

Now keeping in mind that our domestic circuits level of competition is pretty weak, we must find and commit to the players that show great ability with a potential of becoming world class/consisten performers. Picking, dropping and then picking doesn't help the young minds of athletes in any sport.

What PCB needs to do is identify these young prospects and commit to them in the way Australia has shown for Usman Khwaja. Having them practice, and spend time with these proven players will show them what it takes to succeed at the international level. Even if they have to warm the bench for a year or so. YK is going to be vital for our batsmen and Waqar has shown many positives with the bowling attack.

YK can keep playing while grooming these young batsmen and allowing them to fight for his spot with their off field and on field performances.

[nomz15]

Originally Posted by *sallu* Hes talking about the t20s

Exactly...he chose to retire gracefully and was sadly denied the opportunity by PCB.

Maybe we can all agree that PCB will decide his retirement just like Australia will with Ponting, India will with Tendulkar and how PCB already has with Yousuf.

[*sallu*]

Umm no, Younis took back his t20 retirement, that decision was not influenced by the PCB lol

[nomz15]

Originally Posted by *sallu* Umm no, Younis took back his t20 retirement, that decision was not influenced by the PCB lol

Why do you say that? Based on YK's personality and stubbornness I highly doubt that. The man refused to apologize to the PCB or show any remorse while standing strongly for his own innocence.

[nomz15]

BTW...he's 33 or 34 right now? If misbah can play at 36/37 due to his excellent fitness. I doubt YK won't be able to as he is also very good at keeping up with his fitness.

[Schickelgruber]

Only Afridi should retire.

[Friend786]

yes , he should !

[MRSN]

No

We need two experience guys in the middle order.He should bat at no.4 or 5 but should not retire.Change his role in ODIs as we did in tests.It worked in tests and will work in ODIs too.When People say we need a player like fawad who play a supportive role takes singles and twos then Younis is the best choice by far.

[kkmix]

Lol He is the only half decent batsmen in our team that the oppositions respect. He can play for 2 or 3 more years.

[mrk]

And only Pakistanies can ask for some thing like that right before WC. WELL DONE BOYS. Thats huge in confidence for our players....

[nomz15]

its just conversation, no one here is discounting him as a player. YK is a legend and pure class!

[Amjid Javed]

Should have retired from ODIs about 8 years ago, tried and tested ODI failure!

He should gracefully retire before the world cup and allow Moyo to be selected in the side.

[Wanton]

Time to groom Azhar Ali at no.3 in odi's, then he will learn how to rotate the strike.

[hussnainn]

Originally Posted by *sallu* And what if he scores plenty? Should still retire?

Yes.. unless we want another world cup in uncertainty.

[AZ]

Originally Posted by Shahid Afridi's Fan Who said his reputation was/is tarnished? And if i remember correctly, it was the PCB who asked him to comeback.

because he shouldn't have come back, and when he did, was terrible and ruined the gloss from his WC-winning memory.

Originally Posted by *sallu* I will answer this poll after his world cup performances, to see if he still has it or not

lol what rubbish, if everyone waited till then, it would make it a one-sided vote, in either direction.

abhi abhi vote karo.

[saj001]

YES and i'm of his big supporter.

[Dr Khan]

The idea is that if he retires from limited overs cricket, he could lengthen his test career

[Justcrazy]

No he should not. He is still good enough for another 3 years. If he is really out of form he can be rested for a couple of games, thats it.

[MO]

yes...make way for Asad Shafiq.....concentrate on test matches and make as many centuries as he can...

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by AZ lol what rubbish, if everyone waited till then, it would make it a one-sided vote, in either direction. abhi abhi vote karo.

My wish

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by Amjid Javed Should have retired from ODIs about 8 years ago, tried and tested ODI failure! He should gracefully retire before the world cup and allow Moyo to be selected in the side.

LOL, Instead he has won us quite a few ODIs in his 3 golden years.

Yes, currently, his position is well under doubt and guys like Moyo and Malik should be ahead of him.

[ganeshran]

Just to be clear, is this permanent retirement or for two series?

[LegendsXI]

Yk should focus on his test career, and prolong it as much as he can.

[Zaz]

No, hes still has a lot to offer. Still a decent bat and best fielder on team

[Silencer]

Mr. Sallu, can you please tell me if you're an angel or a God? I mean how are you so confident that Younis Khan will perform and score heavily in world cup? Being fit is not the only reason why you should be in the team. Fawad Alam, is a fit cricketer so does it means he should be in the side? Your performance is what is your team is after not your fitness.

[emclub]

Sallu is so he believes in himself.............lets all back him

[Geordie Ahmed]

Yes - without a shadow of a doubt. He wont be playing in the next World Cup so we might as well give someone else start playing someone who will actually have a chance of playing in that World Cup

[wasi90lk]

i think it depends on the performance of younis khan in the world cup.

if he does good in the world cup, he should be in the team. if not, then dump younis khan from the ODI team.

[Black Zero]

There is no place for YK in T20/ODI based on merit...but who cares abt merit!

[Black Zero]

Originally Posted by wasi90lk i think it depends on the performance of younis khan in the world cup. if he does good in the world cup, he should be in the team. if not, then dump younis khan from the ODI team.

He has been crap in ODIs for sometime....if he performs well in WC, he should take this as God given opportunity to retire gracefully.
and no U-Turn this time.

[Afridi_Fan]

Yes.

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by Silencer Mr. Sallu, can you please tell me if you're an angel or a God? I mean how are you so confident that Younis Khan will perform and score heavily in world cup? Being fit is not the only reason why you should be in the team. Fawad Alam, is a fit cricketer so does it means he should be in the side? Your performance is what is your team is after not your fitness.

I never said he'll perform in this thread, I said if he does manage to perform well, he should stick around until either he wants to retire or hes fit enough.

This isn't just for Younis, its for everyone.

You can't rebuild and over haul your side after every 4 years kicking out 7-8 guys at a time. Its terrible for the team and Pakistan is one of the only sides that does it and its completely wrong.

[Decipher]

No, he should retire from odi BEFORE the WC.

[nomz15]

For all that say that YK should retire for Shafiq, why are you guys so confident about Shafiq. He has shown glimpses but what about him makes you think he can be as good as YK or even Yousaf? I rate him highly but I am not sure if he is the best answer at the moment. He just doesn't seem to have that confidence or flare to his game like you'd expect from young player.

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by Decipher No, he should retire from odi BEFORE the WC.

Very poor attempt at humour I must say

[LegendsXI]

Originally Posted by *sallu* Very poor attempt at humour I must say

But its so bad, that it is kind of funny.

[Black Zero]

Originally Posted by *sallu* Very poor attempt at humour I must say

Actually I liked it....as it got a perfect perspective --> iquit...(I know u may disagree)

[*sallu*]

Originally Posted by Anwaar Actually I liked it....as it got a perfect perspective --> iquit...(I know u may disagree)

Its funny, because I don't remember Younis Khan quitting.

I remember him resting from one tour, and resigning from the captaincy, but I don't remember him quitting the national side, ever

[Black Zero]

YK spent most of his career as VC and when the time came....he was not able to take the pressure...(Bob's death, Jamacian James bond, Family tragedy).

and let me add ... match allegations ....> regisgn
resting tour == lost control
If he is not quitter then no one can ever be.

[*sallu*]

YK spent most of his career as VC

Yet when it was his turn to become captain, he wasn't willing to become a dummy captain

Better not to be a captain than a spineless one

Also, whenever Ricky Ponting rests, it means he loses control?

[Black Zero]

Originally Posted by *sallu* Yet when it was his turn to become captain, he wasn't willing to become a dummy captain Better not to be a captain than a spineless one Also, whenever Ricky Ponting rests, it means he loses control?

you can browse net or SS may confirm...it was his own statement that he cudn't take the pressure. (investigation in jamica /family tragedy)

and it's his own statement that he had lost control...

[M.A.G]

yep, akhtar, younus, misbah, razzaq. (may be afridi too) lol.

[shaz619]

Maybe in ODI's, but we need him to guide the youngsters in Tests for a couple of years

[farsiddiqui]

I had voted for YK to retire, but I hope that not all the senior players retire or get dropped at the same time. We may end up with a very young team and after the first loss, half of the retirees and dropees will drafted back in. A little transition planning can go a long way here, but who am I kidding, this is PCB...

Out of the 15 players in the WC, 7 are very close to retiring

1. YK
2. Misbah
3. Afridi
4. Razzaq
5. Akhtar
6. Abdur Rehman
7. Saeed Ajmal

We should start a pool to see who would be the first to retire voluntarily or will be the first to be permanently dropped.

[Down2Earth]

inshallah he'll retire as a world cup winner along with akhtar, misbah, razzaq and afridi

[shaheer]

asad shafiq a upcoming bright the most talented batsemn pakistan has ever produced

[duostyle]

If retiring from ODI means he can play Tests for at least 3 more years, then absolutely.

He has a lot more potential in that format and if he solely focuses on that, he'll surely be our main batsman in Tests during those years. It also gives time to other talents like Asad, Azhar to develop around someone like him and then take over the reins.