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Old 9th February 2011, 19:56
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ICC publishes edited version of spot-fixing ruling - Note Warning for UK Residents

The ICC has published on its website an edited and encrypted 102-page version of the final determination of the independent tribunal that handed out its verdict on February 5 after the spot-fixing hearings in Doha. However, in light of the Crown Prosecution Service's recent decision to pursue criminal charges against the three banned players - Salman Butt, Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif - the judgement will not be available to readers in England and Wales.

To others, the version available online (click here) is in a read-only format and will be available for a period of only seven days.

"It is the ICC's intention to be as transparent an organisation as is feasible and to publish all its reports and findings for the benefit of stakeholders," ICC chief Haroon Lorgat said. "Publishing the full written determination of the tribunal is clearly in the best interest of cricket." The tribunal, too, had recommended a full disclosure However, their hands have been forced by legal considerations.

The determination came with a clear warning, prohibiting the publication or dissemination of the determination within England and Wales. It also laid out that any attempt to access it from within England and Wales would be deemed unlawful, and could invite legal action.

Link: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/c...ry/500104.html
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Old 9th February 2011, 19:57
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As somone living in England, it's so tempting to read it, but I'll wait.
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:00
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Guys - this is a legal matter so be VERY VERY careful. There are all sorts of ways to tracing this doc to you including asking us to disclose your IP address etc - I dont think its worth the risk.

As someone living outside the UK, I have seen the document and its interesting reading - but nothing like Wikileaks etc ! All will come out in public domain soon.
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:04
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Just a warning to all - If you are in the UK and access this document then you are liable for a contempt of court.

The determination came with a clear warning, prohibiting the publication or dissemination of the determination within England and Wales. It also laid out that any attempt to access it from within England and Wales would be deemed unlawful, and could invite legal action.
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:06
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So I can read it..?
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:07
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ICC statement :-

ICC publishes final determination of independent Anti-Corruption Tribunal

The International Cricket Council (ICC) has this evening published a redacted and encrypted version of the final determination of the independent Anti-Corruption Tribunal following the hearing into spot-fixing charges against three Pakistan players – Salman Butt, Mohammad Amir and Mohammad Asif – which concluded in Doha, Qatar on 5 February 2011.

When handing down its decision, the tribunal expressed the strong view that its full written determination should be published widely (as the ICC has the power to do under the ICC Anti-Corruption Code), so that interested parties can read and fully understand the reasons for the tribunal’s determination.

The ICC shares that view and wishes all stakeholders and followers of the sport to see for themselves the effort and resource that the ICC has devoted to pursuing these charges, so that there can be confidence in the ability of the ICC (and its Anti-Corruption and Security Unit) to defend and maintain the reputation and integrity of the sport from corrupt activities.

Haroon Lorgat, the ICC Chief Executive, said: “It is the ICC’s intention to be as transparent an organisation as is feasible and to publish all its reports and findings for the benefit of stakeholders. Publishing the full written determination of the tribunal is clearly in the best interest of cricket.”

However, in light of a recent decision by the UK Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) to pursue criminal charges against the three players, the ICC has taken steps to permit read-only and non-printable access to a redacted version of the tribunal’s full written determination via its website for the next seven days only (i.e. until Wednesday 16 February) and to those users located outside of England and Wales only.

WARNING: Anyone located inside of England and Wales is prohibited from accessing this determination. Accessing or attempting to access the determination in violation of this prohibition would be a breach of the terms and conditions of this website and therefore unlawful. Any publication or dissemination of the determination within England and Wales is subject to the strict legal restrictions set out in the Contempt of Court Act 1981.
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:07
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Non UK Residents can read it. Dont post any copy paste from there on PP
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:07
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So we should all move to Scotland for a night and then read it? It's a joke to try and limit the access of such information in this day and age - do they really think this will work?
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:08
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So we should all move to Scotland for a night and then read it? It's a joke to try and limit the access of such information in this day and age - do they really think this will work?
I agree, then why bother releasing it at all?
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:08
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The CPS case is jury based so I guess it can be influenced.
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:09
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Cricinfo link doesn't work anymore. Looks like they have removed the article.
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:10
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102 pages in total detailing all bits of the case, including witnesses and transcripts of NOTW stuff

Nothing earth shattering there and very long to read !
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:10
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Cricinfo link doesn't work anymore. Looks like they have removed the article.
Worked for me..Its pretty boring..I stopped reading after 3 pages
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:13
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guys please do not post excerpts from the report.
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:13
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MIG bhai I will read it when I have time (I am outside UK) but do you think it has anything which could convince a jury who might have read all the reports in the British tabloid press?
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:14
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i am studying in london but on a visit to pakistan right now. confused as to whether i should view it or not
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:16
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I think we all need to be careful what we post here - its upto our own judgement.

Looks to me that in the case court, evidence will be presented afresh and the ICC proceedings will not be taken into account - which is why they dont want any potential jurors to read this.
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:17
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As somone living in England, it's so tempting to read it, but I'll wait.
I know, i was looking forward to reading it.

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Old 9th February 2011, 20:17
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i am studying in london but on a visit to pakistan right now. confused as to whether i should view it or not
Your call

When you access it, you are asked to fill a form which asks about your residence.
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:20
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Lol i read it and am in UK Mazhar Majeed they way he swore at Amir very bad and MIG BHAI have you read it? How can they deny after all the conversations that are recorded?
HOW did you read it?
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:27
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I'm not going to read it just in case, as i'm over 18. But by what's been said here, I don't think I need to read it. Yesterday is going to be the last time I gave Amir any sympathy.
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:28
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I'm not going to read it just in case, as i'm over 18. But by what's been said here, I don't think I need to read it. Yesterday is going to be the last time I gave Amir any sympathy.
Forget about Amir - it's time for Junaid Khan.
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:29
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If ICC makes it easy to read it (by not having strong safeguards) do the lawyers have an argument to exclude some of the evidence.

I think ICC if not very clever will give the players a backdoor to save themselves on some technicality.

I for one don't want them to be charged in England. In Pakistan of course but as much damage they (the trio) have done already we should wash our dirty laundry in house.
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:29
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They are going to stop people in this day and age? They shouldn't post it. Its like putting a piece of candy in front of a child and saying "you can't have any."

maybe News of the World can run a expose
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Old 9th February 2011, 20:43
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Despite the CLEAR warnings and advice, some rather immature and frankly thoughtless posters were openly discussing the content of the document. Those posts have been removed.

This thread is now closed and any other threads opened regarding this matter will be removed !
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bump.

pls note that PP is a UK-based website, hence the conditions are applied to us as well.
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Old 10th February 2011, 06:46
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Dear all,

For those who are not yet aware, please read the quoted posts below for an update and a reminder on this topic.

As clearly stated below, you are NOT allowed to post this report on PP, quote from it, or share it any other way here.

Failure to heed the above request will lead to strict disciplinary action.

Kind regards

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Just a warning to all - If you are in the UK and access this document then you are liable for a contempt of court.

The determination came with a clear warning, prohibiting the publication or dissemination of the determination within England and Wales. It also laid out that any attempt to access it from within England and Wales would be deemed unlawful, and could invite legal action.
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Non UK Residents can read it. Dont post any copy paste from there on PP
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guys please do not post excerpts from the report.
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Despite the CLEAR warnings and advice, some rather immature and frankly thoughtless posters were openly discussing the content of the document. Those posts have been removed.

This thread is now closed and any other threads opened regarding this matter will be removed
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Old 10th February 2011, 12:36
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See the post above this one.

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