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Old 19th February 2011, 11:43
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Minnows will remain minnows unless...

they produce proper fast bowlers! Spinners can only take you so far you know.
That's an area good batting teams like Zimbabwe and Bangladesh lack in, severely. Which is sad because their bowlers never do enough to support the more-than-decent batting department

Half decent bowlers can do the trick to an extent But the above mentioned teams have poor fast bowlers.

It's time the respective managements put their thinking caps on and invest their efforts in producing quality fast pacers.
I'm a firm believer of the fact that pacers hold the key to success

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Old 19th February 2011, 11:45
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man...fast bowlers seldom win you matches

it is the batsmen who make or break the match
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Old 19th February 2011, 11:45
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Good fast bowlers don't grow on trees(except in Pakistan).
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Old 19th February 2011, 11:49
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I think the battering we have seen could have happened to any team's bowlers on this pitch.

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Old 19th February 2011, 11:49
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Bangladesh had Mortaza!
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Old 19th February 2011, 11:51
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Windies and pakistan hav quickies all over the country (who dont even play for clubs).

Try scouting for your nation.
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Old 19th February 2011, 11:55
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So you are saying India has proper fast bowlers or you're saying India is a minnow?
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Old 19th February 2011, 11:57
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I think the battering we have seen could have happened to any team's bowlers on this pitch.
Perhaps. But that's not the first time BD were spanked for over 350
Players like Mortaza aren't even average bowlers. You can always improve your stats against lowly cricketing nations.
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Old 19th February 2011, 11:58
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So you are saying India has proper fast bowlers or you're saying India is a minnow?
Neither. I said half decent bowlers can do the trick
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Old 19th February 2011, 12:00
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Neither. I said half decent bowlers can do the trick
Bangladesh have better than half decent bowlers.
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Old 19th February 2011, 12:01
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Bangladesh have better than half decent bowlers.
Who for example? Keep in mind I mentioned fast bowlers
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Old 19th February 2011, 12:03
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Old 19th February 2011, 12:18
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Perhaps. But that's not the first time BD were spanked for over 350
Players like Mortaza aren't even average bowlers. You can always improve your stats against lowly cricketing nations.
Yea, but look whats happening now. This pitch levels all bowlers...
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Old 19th February 2011, 13:08
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Minnows will remain minnows until Giants Become Minnows As well... Right???
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Old 19th February 2011, 13:10
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So you are saying India has proper fast bowlers or you're saying India is a minnow?
hahaha....
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Old 19th February 2011, 13:11
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Razzak Reached 150 Wickets in ODIs Quicker than Kumble and Bhaji Did.. Masrafee also has around 150 ODI wickets. They are decent enough bowler to Play International Cricket.

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Old 19th February 2011, 13:14
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"Minnow will remain minnows till they don't produce proper fast bowlers"
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Old 19th February 2011, 13:18
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Razzak Reached 150 Wickets in ODIs Quicker than Kumble and Bhaji Did.. Masrafee also has around 150 ODI wickets. They are decent enough bowler to Play International Cricket.
In fact Abdur Razzak (avg 26.90 )Has Better ODI Bowling Average Than Bhaji ( avg33.14 ) and Kumble (avg 30.89 ),
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Old 19th February 2011, 13:31
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In fact Abdur Razzak (avg 26.90 )Has Better ODI Bowling Average Than Bhaji ( avg33.14 ) and Kumble (avg 30.89 ),
What is Razzak's record against Australia, RSA, Pakistan, Lanka, England compared to Bhajji and Kumble?

well first of all kudos to you to bring the name of someone who has 600 test wickets and 10fer against Pakistan to an arguement of Razzak that too Bangladesh wala
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Old 19th February 2011, 13:33
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statistics, lols, the minnows have played a lot against other minnows

razzaks stats agnst the main nations 70 wickets at an average of 40 odd, he has 50 wickets at 15 against zimbots alone.

same thing happens to mushrafe stats.
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Old 19th February 2011, 13:38
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What is Razzak's record against Australia, RSA, Pakistan, Lanka, England compared to Bhajji and Kumble?

well first of all kudos to you to bring the name of someone who has 600 test wickets and 10fer against Pakistan to an arguement of Razzak that too Bangladesh wala
razzak vs australia average 27.28
vs southafrica average 38.42
vs pakistan average 41.40
vs srilanka average 44.30
vs england average 33.30


harbajhan vs australia average 44.87
vs southafrica average 32.68
vs pakistan average 63.16
vs srilanka average 26.56
vs england average 24.40

hmm

odis anyhu

i think if all these averages are put togethor then razzak will have the upper hand

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Old 19th February 2011, 13:43
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but teams are a lot more used to harbi than razzak cos they play him in tests a lot too, if they faced razzak that much his averages would balloon imho.
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