Pakistan vs India | 2nd Semi Final | WC 11 | Review Thread

[Cryin Out Loud]

Good game, and despite the naysayers, it was tougher than many people think.

That's all.

[Afridi_Fan]

Good game Team Pakistan. I'm disappointed but, it was fun till it lasted.

[ZenBowman]

Agreed, I really felt for Afridi at the end, he did a magnificent job bringing the boys together, and I have to admire the Pakistani team for their sportsmanship, where our own team was trying to act like Aussies. In the end, you have to say it came down to missed catches at a stage where they may have been able to bundle India out for about 220.

[COMEBACKID]

And it came down to poor umpiring

[Logic]

Well Played team Pakistan. Congrats to Afridi and team for reaching the semi final.

Today, It was just a bad day at office. Hopeful for the future.

Best Wishes. (i hope PCB didn't start stupid chopping and changing in team, we are pretty much reaching there to become a consistent good performer in one day cricket)

[chui_kadoo]

6 catched dropped today.
Poor batting by the seniors. No fight shown.
9 gifted wickets.
Umar Gul lost the plot.
Again Pakistan crumble under pressure against India in a WC when chasing.
Also dont understand why the Powerplay wasnt used when either Razzaq and Afridi were their.
There was no game plan by Waqar.
Razzaq is was usless with the bat and ball. Performs 1 in 20 games
It would have served us right to play Shoaib instead of him.
5-0 to India in WC.

[Fawad2010]

@ Logic I am waiting for the bans to be issued...

[mastermind_quad]

lolz @ our batter ..if only Pakistan would have taken those catches we would have never crossed 200....Raina played really well in the end.

btw Pakistan need to replace Razzaq ASAP ...he don't have any role to play in current Line Up...

Afridi u r brilliant man ...Well Done lala...IMO any player in the world would have lost the temper for those dropped catches ...Afridi is the best man to lead team Pakistan till he retire ...

well played team India & Pakistan ....

very good game of cricket...

SL lets meet u in mumbai.....

[IMMY69]

My game was spoilt when that udrs review showed it was missing leg stump!!

Had calls/texts galore from various people, including some very good non pakistany cricketers who just couldn't believe hawkeye showed it was missing leg!!!

Anyway, I hope it was just pressure of a semi final because some of the drop catches and our batting was just incomprehsible!!

P.S
I felt for Afridi and think he's a great ambassador for Pakistan! He's changed my view of him as a captain, irrespective of some strange decisions throughout the tournament..

[IAJ]

Chui has mentioned many of the key points today but I want to add another thing;

Misbah turned down many runs when he was batting with Ajmal, he did a right thing ok, but if he could have found these gaps when he had proper batsmen with him we could have been in a better position in the end.

[Fawad2010]

Originally Posted by mastermind_quad lolz @ our batter ..if only Pakistan would have taken those catches we would have never crossed 200....Raina played really well in the end. btw Pakistan need to replace Razzaq ASAP ...he don't have any role to play in current Line Up... Afridi u r brilliant man ...Well Done lala...IMO any player in the world would have lost the temper for those dropped catches ...Afridi is the best man to lead team Pakistan till he retire ... well played team India & Pakistan .... very good game of cricket... SL lets meet u in mumbai.....

good luck to you at mumbai, bhai

[gsivak]

Well played Pakistan. The match was much closer and tougher that what most anticipated. I was nervous till the very end. Looking forward to the finals now. One more match to go...phew!

[AZ]

it was our game to lose, and we did so.

disgraceful shot selection from the openers - I have absolutely no words for Hafeez - and some truly incompetent batting from YK and Misbah.

both 'seniors' did their best to dismiss their more settled younger partners, and successful did so.

[amirfanforlife]

I had hope until I actually knew there was no chance of a miracle and then ended up crying... oh well.
Well played Pakistan and India.

[mastermind_quad]

Originally Posted by Fawad2010 good luck to you at mumbai, bhai

thanx bhai....

replace Razzaq yaar ..what his role in the team ...?? ...

[IMMY69]

Originally Posted by IAJ Chui has mentioned many of the key points today but I want to add another thing; Misbah turned down many runs when he was batting with Ajmal, he did a right thing ok, but if he could have found these gaps when he had proper batsmen with him we could have been in a better position in the end.

Well this it.. A lot of pundits/players spoke about the wicket slowing down and yes it did but, keeping openers aside, Asad timed it nicely as did Umar Akmal and Afridi and Misbah suddenly started to hit it better when all was lost! Just didn't understand Yk's or Misbah's innings today...

[Animal]

Fielding was the difference, and not just the spills (some of which were unbelievably horrid). There were at least 3 misfields near the boundary that cost Pakistan runs.

No team can win a match after such a poor effort in the field.

IDK what Misbah was trying to do pottering away in the middle overs.

Afridi has been exceptional throughout the tournament and today he emerged as a wonderful guy at the post-match comments thingamagic. I think he's won himself fans by the bucketloads in India tonight.

Oh, and I feel for Gul. Talented bowler, but not his day. Thank god you played Riaz. If Akhtar was playing you'd have been chasing 300+.

India - well, Dhoni's batting is as scratchy as ever. But no complaints as long as he can lead the team well.

The pressure got to Kohli I think, and Gambhir needs to stop believing the hype about him being "the best player of spin" when he's up against world class spinners.

Congratulations Pakistan for your performance in the tournament.

[OZGOD]

Commiserations to my Pakistani friends, but congrats to my Indian friends! Unfortunately these games have to have a winner and a loser, but it looks like Pakistan put up a good fight, with India being just a bit better on the day. Dropping catches loses matches unfortunately.

The final with SL will seem like a bit of an anti-climax.

[chui_kadoo]

Originally Posted by AZ it was our game to lose, and we did so. disgraceful shot selection from the openers - I have absolutely no words for Hafeez - and some truly incompetent batting from YK and Misbah. both 'seniors' did their best to dismiss their more settled younger partners, and successful did so.

And to add the crucial catches dropped by these seniors. They cost us 50 runs in the field.
Why do they keep on dropping dollies. Younis has been the culprit so many times. They just never learn

[sehsan]

cant believe what hafeez did, he was going so well.

Younis did put lot of pressure on Asad and he lost his wicket.

Misbah always play tuk tuk from the start, i dont know why cant he take singles.

Afridi did well as a bowler and captain but I cant believe why he didnt take power play when he came to the crease. If he would have taken it and would have made 30 fast runs, momemntum could have been shifted and Misbah would have come out of shell as well.

[AZ]

Originally Posted by chui_kadoo And to add the crucial catches dropped by these seniors. They cost us 50 runs in the field. Why do they keep on dropping dollies. Younis has been the culprit so many times. They just never learn

I think even with all that transpired in the first half, we were still in the box seats.

add to that the very good start, we were going at 5.6 PRO when Hafeez played his brainfart of the millennium shot.

YK came in and totally killed the game and put Shafiq under pressure, and then threw his wicket away like a rabbit.

Misbah - the same but even worse.

[saqlain]

it was a good game of cricket. Both teams very well. At the end the better team won the match. Hope India will do well in the final. For Pakistan it was a big moment. They defy all the odds and reach the semifinal. Not many people had thought that Pakistan would reach here. Good bowling by Pakistan. A few things did not go the Pakistan way but I am sure they would still be proud of their effort. The crowd was great and most important both teams play the match in good spirit. There was not much sledging or drama on or off the ground.

[GOAT]

YK and Misbah have to retire with immediate effect. Kamran Akmal must be replaced, not based on todays performance but overall world cup performance. Dropped a chance today too though.

We were stuck with Razzaq but his time is up now, he should be dropped right away from the ODI squad as well. I'd love to see Azhar, Fawad, and Hammad come in + an able wicket keeper.

Felt for Gul today, but he was one of he decisive factors in us losing today. Unnecessarily expensive after the Sehwag onslaught, obviously not to be dropped as he helped to carry the bowling throughout the tournament.

Great job to Afridi and everyone else, was impressed with Shafiq. This guy can benefit from a batting coach as he seems to absorb the pressure rather well, Umar needs to bat higher up too. He showed great spirit.

Poor game overall, the batting cost and Wahabs superb 5-for was in vain.

[chui_kadoo]

Originally Posted by AZ I think even with all that transpired in the first half, we were still in the box seats. add to that the very good start, we were going at 5.6 PRO when Hafeez played his brainfart of the millennium shot. YK came in and totally killed the game and put Shafiq under pressure, and then threw his wicket away like a rabbit. Misbah - the same but even worse.

True, but you know how we panic when we are chasing a more than par score.

how many times have we chased more than 200 runs this WC ?

[mastermind_quad]

Wahab Riaz bowling was exceptional today ...he is a brilliant find for Pakistan

[Amjid Javed]

A high pressure game and it was won by the team who were more discaplined and also seem to have a little more big games experience.

Indias batting inns - Well it was a mixed bag. After 10 overs it looked like we would be chasing 350 atleast. Gul was shocking and needs to learn to read bowling surfaces a lot better. In Sri lanka wickets were two paced and offered assistance so you could bowl back of a length, You do that on Flat Indian wickets and you will get hammered. His use of the short ball, slower ball, yorker was very poor today. The fielding was shoddy, 6 catches shelled says it all. But after all that 261 to chase was a good effort by our bowlers. Id have taken that at start of the game!

Pakistan batting inns - Got off to a brilliant start and Kami and Hafeez started well and there seem to be no nerves. Kami got out to a poorish shot but start was a good one. Hafeez who was happy to place the ball, wait for bad ball then all off a sudden decided he wanted to be sehwag and dominate the inns and smack every ball around the park! The lad seriously needs to learn that his role is bat 50 overs and for others to bat around him! The shot he got out to was a joke!

After that the batting just fell apart. The youngsters Asad and Umar had the right method. Be postive dont let bowlers settle, run hard between the wickets and i cant fault either for their efforts.

YK and Misbah well what a joke! seriously i said before the world cup pakistan would regret not taking Moyo to world cup. Why? because Moyo is a world class performer and like Inzi knew how to play Inns according to situations. YK seemed to just want to fish outside off-stick or block and sadly Misbah went back to the bad old days off batting like a snail, No Intent and no leadership from either!

At one point with Umar/Misbah batting we got equation down to 120 off 108 balls. That sort of gap can be clawed back, So why not take powerplay? Pakistan could have say scored 45 runs in 5 overs leaving is then around a run a ball etc.. instead we just got laboured idiotic blocking from Misbah!

In the end it was to high a mountain to climb! It was pakistans match to lose at half way point and we did! The fact India just used 5 bowlers show how little we stretched them with the bat!

Pakistan just made some really basic mistakes and its cost them today! Very dissapointing end to what should have been a very happy day!

[GOAT]

It's amazing how a lot of us (myself) wanted Akhtar in his place, Wahab bowled his heart out today and made the Indian top order look foolish. He may just develop into a world class bowler imo.

[Amjid Javed]

Have to say Wahab and Ajmal were outstanding with the ball today and that stands us in good stead going forward in ODIs.

[d0gers]

Disappointed with the batting and fielding effort. Don't know what else to say. We probably should've only been chasing 200-220, but all said and done even at 260 the game was there for the taking.

Good captaincy by Dhoni to keep the pressure on our batters and force them to commit hara-kiri.

And chin up Afridi. You tried your best out there!

[*sallu*]

can't blame one particular batsman, each and every one of them played an equal part in the defeat.

Right from no.1 through to no.8

Either they played slowly, or threw their wicket away playing a stupid shot

[SuperSportsCom]

Chasing 260 for the Pakistani team was hard but was not impossible.

We really missed Shoaib Malik and Fawad Alam today. If we have one of these in place of A. Razzaq or A. Shafiq it would have make a difference. A. Shafiq is not be blamed as it were the seniors who built up the pressure for them.
Even without them we could have achieved it but unfortunately we batted as if we are not chasing but it is the first inning,

Tuk tuk in the beginning and then explode in the end might work for setting up the target but when chasing it builds up the pressure for the batsman on the other end.

Umar Akmal was batting well but should have restrained himself a little bit as there were not many wickets left.

Umar Gul missed a big opportunity today but luckily Wahab stepped up otherwise it could have been bad all around.

Kamran Akmal as Ramiz Raja put it today "it is time to move on and find a replacement" for him. He missed a stump and a catch when Afridi was bowling.

Giving 5 Lives to Tandu can hurt any team we were luck that we restrained them under 200 but then the inevitable came in. Aamir Sohail had said it that Afridi need to go for the Kill and he didn't. He could have attacked more and retrain India to 230.

I though that 230 could be chase but 260 was about 15 runs more than Pakistan could handle.

Powerplay should have been called when Misbah and Afridi were playing and we missed that opportunity.

Better luck next time Pakistan. Having said that chances like this world cup are hard to come by.

[Cryin Out Loud]

While I'm over the moon that we won, I do honestly think that Pakistan have many positives to take from this game. A bowler in Riaz, a batsman in Hafeez (brainfart notwithstanding). They played like a much better team than I anticipated at the start of this WC.

The margin of victory and defeat were wafer thin. Had the batting PP started a few overs early, had the SRT catches been held ....

But the challenge will be in building this team; I am no fan of Afridi but absolutely think he needs to stay on as ODI Captain. The Pakistan team, must be given a year or so of total stability.

[JellyBro]

India deserved to win this one. We just were horrendous today...no planning whatsoever.
One thing this WC did prove is that "seniors win matches" should be considered an old wives' tale. At the end of the day it boils down to the individual's ability to handle pressure and the willingness to fight his demons and emerge victorious....

[Cryin Out Loud]

Originally Posted by Cryin Out Loud While I'm over the moon that we won, I do honestly think that Pakistan have many positives to take from this game. A bowler in Riaz, a batsman in Hafeez (brainfart notwithstanding). They played like a much better team than I anticipated at the start of this WC. The margin of victory and defeat were wafer thin. Had the batting PP started a few overs early, had the SRT catches been held .... But the challenge will be in building this team; I am no fan of Afridi but absolutely think he needs to stay on as ODI Captain. The Pakistan team, must be given a year or so of total stability.

Quoting myself, but by stability I did not mean that y'all do not need a new WK. Sack this one now and tell him his future in the team, if he has one, will be as a pure batsman.

[Fireworks11]

Congratulations to all Indian supporters. Good luck for the final.

Despite all the drops and terrible mis-fields by Pakistan, they should have chased 261. A very gettable target.

Again, the pressure of a chase told in this game. YK and Misbah really failed today. The batting PP? The least that's said about it the better....

I knew Afridi was going to play that shot, just praying he waited till the PP.

[osee_bhai]

YK's innings was just crap. Put alot of pressure on Shafiq. I don't blame misbah too much, wickets were falling everywhere, we couldn't build a partnership. We gifted most of our wickets away. Hafeez, I can't believe how he got out...it's the responsibility of set batsmen to continue, atleast not gift their wickets away.

Gul had a really bad day. Like really bad. Wahab did excellent, credit goes to team management for playing him instead of Akhtar when everyone wanted the opposite. Our fielding was pathetic for the most part, everything we worked on this tourney combusted today. Credit to the rest of our bowlers, spinners bowled rly well to keep them in the end to only 260.

But what can you do, there's always a winner and a loser. And today unfortunately Pak was the loser.

[bantu]

Wahab,ajmal & afridi bowled really well......... Sachin was very very lucky today.......along with him,Sehwag's start and raina's finish gave us a fighting total....
I was very tensed until afridi was at the crease......
Surprisingly as a team pakistan looked more nervous/under pressure than India...
After pakistan's match against australia,I honestly thought this was pakistan's world cup..... Well played guys..

[SuperSportsCom]

Originally Posted by Danish407 India deserved to win this one. We just were horrendous today...no planning whatsoever. One think this WC did prove is that "seniors win matches" should be considered an old wives' tale. At the end of the day it boils down to the individual's ability to handle pressure and the willingness to fight his demons and emerge victorious....

Agree. If we start planning now, these junior will be senior by the next world cup. Time to rebuild.
Afridi did a great job, hats off, but a more pragmatic leader will be better.

[Cracket]

Goodbye Shoaib Akhtar. I was hoping to see you bowl one last time.

[kyzersoze]

Just want to say I am still proud of all the players.They tried their best but it just didnt come off once again against the Indians in a world cup.All Pakistanis have to admit that whether they love him or loathe him,Sachin Tendulkar is class.Yes he was dropped a few times but still had the sense of rotating the strike when he could and he knew that till hes there,it gives confidence to the rest of the players and the crowd too.Have to admit Saeed Ajmal had him a bit bamboozled but the guy is still class.
First losing the toss was a let down but then you cant count on winning that.The pitch was good for both teams especially in the first 15 overs and was the same for both after that.Only difference I think was the outfield was much quicker when India were batting and I think alot of you will agree but still thats no excuse.
One guy just couldnt take the pressure when it came to the crunch and unfortunately it was the spearhead of our attack Umar Gul.Thats why Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis and Shoaib Akhtar are respected more and loved more because when it comes to big games like these and they have the pressure on them,they perform or atleast show their best.Ok Gul started bad but then he twice had the chance to come back but he choked and didnt bowl too well in the his other 2 spells.You could see that clearly he was shaken by the big occasion even by one of his fielding efforts when a ball he half stopped went to the boundary when it should have only been a single.Thats why Gul bhai is never had a crazy fan following like Afridi and Akhtar like he wishes.You need the X factor my friend!!!
Great bowling by Wahab Riaz.I have personally never rated the guy but what he showed today tells me he could be one for the future but he needs to work on bringing the ball in to the batsman too,which would make him more deadly,successful and help our team even more.
Afridi,Ajmal and Hafeez were great.Afridi was unlucky because Sachin was dropped 3 times of his bowling.Ajmal had the Indian batsmen in a spin and I am sure the Indian fans will agree.Hafeez was really good too and once again helped slow the run rate,actually all 3 spinners helped alot with doing that along with Wahab taking the wickets but were let down by the fielding once again.
Our fielding was useless as it is on many occasions so no surprise there.You just have to expect that with a Pakistani fielding team.We just havn't been brought up to field well and that shows by the lazy attitude we show on the field.
When it comes to the batting well,we had a good start till.........
First of all Kamran Akmal chased a wide one.He didnt need to do that.We could see the Indians including their crowd were a bit rattled by the start we had.Then why play something like that.
I dont know what Hafeez was thinking.That ball Munaf bowled was the widest delivery he bowled and you are trying to paddle sweep it???Come on you have 43runs against your name,your playing a grand semi final against your arch rivals trying to get to the final and you do that????What was the logic and sense in that shot???If you dont have enough confidence to play a medium pacer straight especially when you are doing well, the I am sorry but you have no right to open the innings.Utter stupidity comes to mind.
Asad Shafiq and Umar Akmal were bright but were totally let down by their partners.These guys are young and need help from the experienced guys but there wasnt any.I have personally experienced this while playing club cricket with the older guys and have many run outs to my name because of these lazy gits.They tried quick singles and tried to rotate the strike but got no response from their partners.. In the end they got frustrated and played bad shots.Umar Akmal got done by a beautiful delivery by Harbhajan,maybe he let his concentration down and Bhaji took total advantage by delay in play and knowing Umar was facing him the first time today so cleverly bowled the quicker one.Great bowling from Bhaji so no fault of Umar who was trying his best to up the rate and was doing pretty good but Misbah was doing the opposite.Due to the frustration Asad tried playing a cut to a very straight delivery so I dont blaeme him but Younis Khan.
I have no idea what Younis Khan and Misbah ul India were thinking when they were batting.What were they thinking??Push the rate upto 10 and then leave it to Afridi and Razzaq who maybe havn't got a 100runs put together for the whole tournament????There was no logic whatsoever to their batting??They totally let us down.They are experienced enough to atleast take singles by hitting the ball in the gaps but no they didnt at all.I always said Misbah is not a good batsman and have always said from day one.He had his chances earlier in his career but just wasnt good enough so was left out.The only reason he is in the team because of other various reasons in our cricket system.Remember he is the same guy who couldn't make a single of 3 balls in the Twenty20 group stage match against India and then played the worst shot in the final to hand the cup to India.Thats why I have named him Misbah ul India.
Afirdi and Razzaq couldn't do alot when they came so I dont blame them. I think Razzaq is done and too old because Pakistan have once again not used him properly and its a shame that such a talent has gone to waste.I was surprised how the Indian crowd got quiet when Afridi hit a couple of shots.I guess they dont know him how we do and just remember Kanpur.lol.that was comedy though.
Overall Pakistani management never ever think out of the box.Why did they not take the powerplay earlier???What were they scared of???Or were they expecting heroics from Saeed Ajmal who wasn't getting the strike in the powerplay in the end???Ok if they left it to the end,why not take it in the 44th over???You are going to go for shots in the last over regardless???
I have some suspicion of Misbah and Younis trying to make Afridi look bad by dropping the catches of his bowling first and then helping India again with their batting efforts if you can call it that.The reason I say that is maybe one of them or especially Misbah wants to be the captain of the ODI side too??But then again it might just be me and my way of consoling myself for why we lost.Whatever it is we need to bring couple of more new faces.We aint going nowhere with these 2 so why not give the youngsters a chance and even if they start badly,they could get better with time and experience.A good example is Azhar Ali in tests.
About the umpiring, well Simon Taufel was his usual best but after the Ian Gould decision of the Sachin LBW got changed,he was shook and I dont think he recovered again.The LBW decision did look strange with the naked eye but then again the ball was spinning on that pitch and expecially Saeed Ajmal's deliveries.But what was going on with the wides????I know it was the end and maybe didn't matter but some of the wides not given in the end of our innings was a disgrace.
Another disappointing thing by Afridi was in the presentation or maybe he forgot is that he didnt thank Almighty Allah to get his team so far in the tournament.Maybe he forgot what it would be like when they get back home if they got knocked out in the round stage.Rest of his comments were great.
Just one thing which disappointing was some of the attitude of the Indian players.Why was Munaf swearing whilst giving a send off to Hafeez when got him out??The whole game was played in a friendly manner as you could see from Afridi's attitude towards Sachin when he was dropped and both were laughing.Why spoil it??And then Raina tries to say something to Umar Akmal when Umar was batting,but he asked Dhoni to ask him to stop.That was great by Dhoni and I liked it.Personally If both teams are giving it to each other then I love it.But why do it when both teams are on friendly terms???Maybe I am just reading too much into it.Like the Bhaji celebration was perfect when he got Afridi out.No nonsense but pure passion.Should have given him the goodbye kiss.lol
For those guys who think its a conspiracy theory and the game was fixed,get over it guys just get over it.We played very ordinarily once again.None of our batsmen would get into their team but we would take all of theirs and you have to admit it.I would also take one of their bowlers that Zaheer Khan.So on paper they were better than us,on the field for 100 overs they were better than us and deservedly go through to the final.And also if it was fixed,Pakistan would have played Akhtar and given him a proper send off.
They have had a better team since 2001 to 2011 and still have as stats would show but do remember after every high comes a low.Just ask Ponting and his boys and their fans.
Congratulations to India but we will come back and come back stronger again and again!!!

P.s: I know the review got a bit long but I had to take it all out.So thanks for reading if you did.lol

[Watsupdoc]

Drop catches, some ordinary bowling from Gul and really pathetic batting from Younis and Misbah lost us the game.

Having said that I thought the indians bowled pretty well, in terms that they were really disciplined. They didn't give many extras away, in fact I think theifirst extra the gave away was in the 20 something over...

[WNC]

Originally Posted by chui_kadoo 6 catched dropped today. Poor batting by the seniors. No fight shown. 9 gifted wickets. Umar Gul lost the plot. Again Pakistan crumble under pressure against India in a WC when chasing. Also dont understand why the Powerplay wasnt used when either Razzaq and Afridi were their. There was no game plan by Waqar. Razzaq is was usless with the bat and ball. Performs 1 in 20 games It would have served us right to play Shoaib instead of him. 5-0 to India in WC.

That pretty much sums up everything. The most glaring stat, apart from the 6 dropped catches in 9 gifted wickets. Only the delivery that Razzaq got out to was a deserving one, and perhaps the one that got Gul. All others threw their wickets away with pointless and pathetic shots.

The dropped chances cost us majorly. And in a way, if you drop chances like those, you don't deserve to play a final in a global event, simple as.

[Love Pakistan]

Razzaq has been great cricketer for Pakistan but its time for him to retire from one day cricket...... misbah should only be playing only tests..... mohammad hafeez should also be used in tests.... we really need to get new faces in the team now...... Afridi I just respect you more than anyone man..... he has shown that he is one of the best person to unite and lead Pakistan..... I really felt for him at the end of the match..... he was about to cry so was I...... Afridi May Allah make you lead Pakistan team in 2015 WC and the T20 worldcups before that....

[DOOSRA95]

Originally Posted by chui_kadoo 6 catched dropped today. Poor batting by the seniors. No fight shown. 9 gifted wickets. Umar Gul lost the plot. Again Pakistan crumble under pressure against India in a WC when chasing. Also dont understand why the Powerplay wasnt used when either Razzaq and Afridi were their. There was no game plan by Waqar. Razzaq is was usless with the bat and ball. Performs 1 in 20 games It would have served us right to play Shoaib instead of him. 5-0 to India in WC.

Just to add agreed with all points above.

Misbah, Younis, Razzaq andGul must be shown the door, disspointed is an understatement .
If a player from Pakistan not raise his game for once in life time opportunity and a match of that magnitude it is really have no GUTS what's so ever.
When nation needed them they just dissipated with out a fight.
we don't want a hundred and 5 wickets and catches in useless matches.
Look at England they live for Ashes , what about our player so much friendly banters with Indian players.
There is no need for these weak individuals.

[rajachoudhary50]

Originally Posted by chui_kadoo 6 catched dropped today. Poor batting by the seniors. No fight shown. 9 gifted wickets. Umar Gul lost the plot. Again Pakistan crumble under pressure against India in a WC when chasing. Also dont understand why the Powerplay wasnt used when either Razzaq and Afridi were their. There was no game plan by Waqar. Razzaq is was usless with the bat and ball. Performs 1 in 20 games It would have served us right to play Shoaib instead of him. 5-0 to India in WC.

Did it occur to you that Indian bowlers bowled well ;)
Zaheer Khan
9.5 0 58 2
Ashish Nehra
10 0 33 2
Munaf Patel
10 1 40 2
Harbhajan Singh
10 0 43 2
Yuvraj Singh
10 1 57 2
Its called team effort , bowling to line and length and deception ;)

[Watsupdoc]

Originally Posted by DOOSRA95 Just to add agreed with all points above. Misbah, Younis, Razzaq andGul must be shown the door, disspointed is an understatement . If a player from Pakistan not raise his game for once in life time opportunity and a match of that magnitude it is really have no GUTS what's so ever. When nation needed them they just dissipated with out a fight. we don't want a hundred and 5 wickets and catches in useless matches. Look at England they live for Ashes , what about our player so much friendly banters with Indian players. There is no need for these weak individuals.

Gul are you serious? He has one bad match and kick him out of the team... way to go bro!

[srh]

Pakistan lost this match because of batting not bowling and not fielding. Even if India had scored 220, the way Pakistan batsmen bat they would have lost. All the batsmen are to blame but if I have to choose the 3 biggest culprits then they are Misbah, YK and Abdul Razzaq.

[iHammad]

I'm just really proud for one man: Shahid Afridi

Man this guy tried his heart out, but our batting line up failed us once again.

[srh]

And nobody has a bigger brain fart today than Mohammad Hafeez.

[Love Pakistan]

Agar aaj yeh gulu chal jata toh hum 220 chase kar rahe hote.... IDK why he had to fail today.... but I must admit that Indians bowled very well..... but at the end of the day I would say we lost the match mostly due to our mistakes.....

[chui_kadoo]

Originally Posted by rajachoudhary50 Did it occur to you that Indian bowlers bowled well ;) Zaheer Khan 9.5 0 58 2 Ashish Nehra 10 0 33 2 Munaf Patel 10 1 40 2 Harbhajan Singh 10 0 43 2 Yuvraj Singh 10 1 57 2 Its called team effort , bowling to line and length and deception ;)

All the wickets were due to the batsmen giving their wickets away. All were thrown due to horrendus shots. Take Hafeez and Afridi's wicket as a prime example

[Love Pakistan]

Yaar Afridi u dont need to be sorry man... I have so much respect for him now.... I never thought that Afridi would actually be our captain one day but his leading abilities as a captain has been phenomenal. He is one captain in the WC who seemed positive on field and he kept all the players united..... Welldone Lala.... Love u man.

[The Yorker]

Misbah and Younis batted very oddly the pressure got to them. They were awful, I wonder if Gilani had a word with them. Pak team has no political backing, that's why they are shafted at every given opportunity.

[chacha kashmiri]

We got tendulkar out 8 times and he went on to be their leading run scores by about 50 runs

Without that we would have won easy

[rajachoudhary50]

Its so pathetic no one appreciated a honesty gesture.If he had not shown honesty and claimed there would have been over a dozen threads calling him a cheat
:NEHRA
9.4


Yuvraj Singh to Shahid Afridi, 1 run, Is that out? If it is it is a stunning piece of fielding from Ashish Nehra! Afridi pulled in the air out to deep midwicket, he charged across and leapt ... India celebrate, but Ashish immediately says he's not sure. And they go upstairs ... Yep, that's bounced just in front of him. Still a wonderful effort in the field from someone who's not usually known for it

Nehra has hurt his finger as well, and is getting it strapped by the team physio. It's his right hand, so shouldn't affect his ability to bowl

[NZPakistanFan]

I'm going to focus on positives from this game (and the WC) because everyone else has already detailed all the faliures and where we went wrong.

Ajmal bowled beautifully and showed that he should be our number one spinner. He was a delight to watch, and his wicket of Singh (after mocking him) was especially enjoyable.

Riaz proved how far he has come. His pace was consistently in the high 140's, and he pulled the match back when Shewag was dead set on destruction. His five wicket haul was just reward. Also, was great to see Akhtar applauding his five wickets from the stands, a nice touch of class from the old warrior.

Hafeez bowled well again. In fact, apart from Gul, all the bowlers did their job. Gul has had a great tournament though so it's important to remember that.

Now, with older players leaving, it's going to be interesting to see some of the young guns coming through. The likes of Khan and co. The Windies tour will be a great chance to blood them and experiment a little. The road to the next World Cup starts now!

[MalikMohsin]

Well Played. This game was indeed under pressure game for both teams, and one team has adapted in under pressure really well. Pakistani bowlers have bowled well apart from Gul (who just has had one game - and must remember he is the reason the team is in semi final in the first place), and usual story that goes like bowlers never have had support from fielders and batsmen as usual.

It was refreshing to see Tendulkar consistently struggling for the whole game. That has made my day, and it's rare to see legend batsmen like Tendulkar struggle so consistent in the whole game. That being said, Indian fielders have really fielded well and gave tremendous support to their bowlers till the end.

Pakistan has reached to semi final because of bowlers, and Pakistani batsmen were needed today, and we knew what we were gonna expected, and indeed we have expected the result. Pakistani bowlers are extremely unlucky and their hard work always go in vain thank to our batting line and fielding.

Take a look at Indian fielders, and how their fielders have brought the pressure on Pakistani batsmen. That's something Pakistani fielders usually are very deaf in that department.

Anyways, well played. Team India. Got to enjoy Wahab Riaz tremendous fifer today. Brilliant game it was today. Pakistan and India should play more often to ease the tension and relationship between each other.

[PakistanCricketForever!]

Afridi I love your attitude! You are a true captain! Look the the team after the England series, they were in disaray but yu pulled everyone together! I have not been a afridi fan but today he has won my heart

[qaiser]

Originally Posted by PakistanCricketForever! Afridi I love your attitude! You are a true captain! Look the the team after the England series, they were in disaray but yu pulled everyone together! I have not been a afridi fan but today he has won my heart

only if he has 50% planning skills compared to his man management skills

[shabbirsheriff]

Today's match is the true picture of Pakistan's team, now we know where the flaws are - take it positively and take corrective measures accordingly - soon it will be a tough team to beat.

Well played India and Pakistan as well especially after coming out of dark tunnel.

[NO 1 AFRIDI FAN]

Batting let us down, once again. But atleast we got this far, who would have thought that this pakistan team that was surrounded by controversies would reach the Semis.

I felt so bad when Afridi said sorry, we know you guys tried your hardest.

There are lots of positives to take from this WC, but one thing is sure we need a full time batting coach to develop our new batsmen that we have found.

Once again, you have to give it to Afridi for leading the team so well, and uniting them.

[truthseeker1]

Well done to the team. Let's be honest, which other team, having been through what Pakistan's been/going through could have got through to the semis? With all the chaos in Pakistan, the spot fixing, banning of three of their better players and despite all of this we got through to the semis. And we never just got through, we finished top of our group and beat the Aussies and Sri Lanka on our way there.

Well done man!

[chui_kadoo]

Originally Posted by Love Pakistan Yaar Afridi u dont need to be sorry man... I have so much respect for him now.... I never thought that Afridi would actually be our captain one day but his leading abilities as a captain has been phenomenal. He is one captain in the WC who seemed positive on field and he kept all the players united..... Welldone Lala.... Love u man.

If only he didnt throw his wicket away in all 8 times in this WC and took responsiblity with the bat as a true captain should

[Genghis]

Originally Posted by NZPakistanFan The road to the next World Cup starts now!

I hope so ... this world cup has shown us that we are not that far behind the pack and with a bit of planning, we can get this team back to its heights. Considering this was probably the weakest Pakistani team to play a World Cup the acheivement are to be highly commended. Even last night, it was just a case of us losing our nerver otherwise it was a very possible win.

Bowling throughout the tournament has been top-class (barring a few overs against NZ and Gul today). Ajmal I beleive is the BEST limitted overs spinner in the world. Afridi continues to get better and better with age. Gul has been fantastic but needs to work on his performances in the big games. Riaz has been a great find. And Hafeez has become a crutial wicket-taking bowler.

Fielding has improved, but we still have days in which we completely self-implode. But with the young guys coming through you can see the emphasis they put on fielding and hopefully it holds us in good stead.

Batting wise is where we will have to work hardest at. We have too many batsmen who look good for moments, but don't have the temperament to bat long. Hafeez's shot was a typical example of throwing away a good start today and we see it more often than not. Younis and Misbah will not be around next world cup, so I hope to see some of the youngsters given opportunities.

[The Yorker]

Why can't Pakistan find some decent batsmen, never has a team with such a weak batting line up has reached so far in a world cup tournament.

[Fireworks11]

Btw, you have to applaud Nehra for not celebrating when taking that catch off Afridi. He wasn't sure and rightly gestured. Great to see.

[AZ]

Ashish's a top bloke.

you don't become the first Indian to get a PP smiley for nothing

[kriskmk]

Originally Posted by The Yorker Why can't Pakistan find some decent batsmen, never has a team with such a weak batting line up has reached so far in a world cup tournament.

I kinda find that weird too.. since the yesteryears.. pakistan seems to be mostly about bowlers who want to bowl as fast as they can.

[Looney]

Respect to definitely class banda


I am hoping seniors now make way for youngsters in LOIs without any drama


And , i am sorry for not believing in you . You are a top guy . Take a bow , sir .

[the Great Khan]

I just hope our stupid selectors and jazbaati quam dont ask for wholesale changes..they are not needed...this team needs time to settle down and reach maturity..lets give thme a real chance to do so..

[Genghis]

Misbah and Younis should still be our mainstay in test cricket, but in the limitted game we probably should only have one in that middle order.

[ZenBowman]

Originally Posted by the Great Khan I just hope our stupid selectors and jazbaati quam dont ask for wholesale changes..they are not needed...this team needs time to settle down and reach maturity..lets give thme a real chance to do so..

Exactly what I was thinking. One of the main reasons the batting lineup doesn't click is constant shuffling of players and positions.

[pakistanbest]

Was immensly dissapointed, we should have restricted them to 220 or less.

Gul was a stranger
YK and Misbah our so called seniors ruined our batting, that should be the end of them
Razzaq as usual did diddly squat
Hafeez played well but 43 is not good enough especially to that shot
Was disspaointed in the way Afridi got out, if he stayed longer with the batting PP, we could've crawled over

All in all was a good match, Wahab was lethal and Ajmal showed his class again, Asad showed us what he is made of as well as Jnr Akmal playing a under pressure knock, a couple of positives

But when you crash out of the WC in the Semi to your rivals, no real positives can be seen, was looking so much forward to this WC and it was a good WC but really believed we would make it this year

Insha'Allah onwards and upwards to 2015

Btw great words from Afridi, was a brilliant captain and him and team Pakistan have done the nation proud

Pakistan Zindabaad

[pakistanbest]

Originally Posted by genghis81 Misbah and Younis should still be our mainstay in test cricket, but in the limitted game we probably should only have one in that middle order.

Time to get rid of both and want Asad, UA and another couple of youngsters in their and possibly Malik if he is availalble

[the SHA]

After 75% of the match gone Pakistan had it on the table to win.

Those final 25 overs of the match, when Younis and Misbah worked their magic, well what can I say. Against Sri Lanka both Younis and Misbah scored near run a ball 72 & 83, mainly in singles. Today was a demonstration of how not to build an innings, how not to time a ODI chase.

For batsmen that have played almost 300 ODI's between them that is simply astonishingly poor. If ever there was a time when scoring a golden duck would help your team's chances of victory it was today, for both of them! That is shameful.

[dinakar]

Originally Posted by AZ Ashish's a top bloke. you don't become the first Indian to get a PP smiley for nothing

the most heartening was Ashish's last over, he beaten Riaz with two full length deliveries, he stopped in the middle of the pitch as if to stare or sledge, but instead had a very affectionate smile! Riaz too smiled him back and that's all!!

coming back to the review, catches win matches!!! that's it. Sachin had a torrid time with spinners, haven't seen him struggling so much against spinners anytime in the recent past. may be back in 2008 during Mendis magic. but, the difference yesterday, even all these agony, he didn't dry up runs. took singles at decent rate and dispatched the bad deliveries to the boundary, that's where Misbah missed trick.

[Cracket]

Image had Aamir not spotfixed

[ddss]

Pakistan bowling: 6.5/10
Pakistan batting: 6/10
Pakistan fielding: 4/10

Indian bowling: 7/10
Indian batting: 5/10
Indian fielding: 9/10

Fielding got us again.

Anyone else notice absolutely no sledging at all throughout the entire game?!
Which is definitely good, it was a great game to watch.

[sameel tufail]

Good game pakistan should have won the match . Batting and fielding let down the team and if we might have won the toss the result might have been different.

[harrisaslam100]

I think we should get rid of misbah and younis from the odi team and let them focus on test cricket. And replace them with shoaib malik and azhar ali. Also junaid khan should replace akhtar