Naved-ul-Hasan should be in the test team

[majiz]

He's bowling very well for Sussex at the moment, and is the best new ball bowler in Pakistan.

Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

[majiz]

Yasir Arafat should probably be in there sharing the ball with him, also.

They're both FAR more intelligent bowlers than either Gul or Wahab.

[TNA]

can't afford two trundlers playing as the frontline bowlers

[AZ]

he was never that effective in Test cricket.

a must in ODIs though.

[TNA]

these two get intelligent when playing for county's ONLY.

[majiz]

Originally Posted by TNA can't afford two trundlers playing as the frontline bowlers

Naved is hardly any slower than Gul or Wahab. Only difference is he bowls decent lines and can actually SWING THE BALL.

Originally Posted by AZ he was never that effective in Test cricket. a must in ODIs though.

I don't think he's been given a fair run, I'm convinced he could be effective for some reason.

[majiz]

Originally Posted by TNA these two get intelligent when playing for county's ONLY.

To be fair Yasir's only ever bowled in test matches on the flattest of wickets. Also, in England where he's performed the standard of county cricket is very high, he can bat also let us not forget.

edit: I would wager that the Pakistani selectors pay NO attention to the England county game at all, because other players have performed there but not been given a look in. It's a mistake on their part in my opinion.

[TNA]

Naved is like Sami bowls one two spectacular spells than become batsmans best friend

[Fireworks11]

Arafat and Naved are both required in the ODI team. I think Rana is past it now for Tests.

[james_bond]

Originally Posted by Fireworks11 Arafat and Naved are both required in the ODI team. I think Rana is past it now for Tests.

exactly currently arafat is better than hammad andd razzaq. i just dont know why the selectors keep on ignoring him.

rana is a very good new ball and old ball bowler.

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[james_bond]

Originally Posted by AZ he was never that effective in Test cricket. a must in ODIs though.

i think he bowled v well in that pak-eng 2005 series. its just he was never trusted for long time.

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[TNA]

Originally Posted by majiz To be fair Yasir's only ever bowled in test matches on the flattest of wickets. Also, in England where he's performed the standard of county cricket is very high, he can bat also let us not forget. edit: I would wager that the Pakistani selectors pay NO attention to the England county game at all, because other players have performed there but not been given a look in. It's a mistake on their part in my opinion.

I would wager you to stop following them so closely in the county's.

If the selectors are not going to monitor their performance in the country's then how are they going to know if they are good enough players in the first place.

[junoonis]

I hate to say this but I think Rana will be good choice in ODI's, I am not too sure about the Test. He can swing the ball with pace and don't forget he has amazing slower ball. Currently our bowling looks dull in ODI's. junaid is okay bowler, I am not expecting him to run down the opposition, we need someone like rana to bring back the excitement in our team. We don't have exciting characters anymore beside afridi. After all cricket is all about entertainment.

[farz88]

Bring back and underperformer. He wasnt that good and never will be.

[Fireworks11]

He was good in LOIs, never really cracked it in Tests.

[WithLoveFromCanada]

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...=107983&page=2

[Fireworks11]

WLFC is the new gothamcronie118.

[WithLoveFromCanada]

I just want to make this place better by posting relevant threads. Less threads mean more discussion in fewer threads and more chances to learn.

[kkmix]

I won't be surprised if he comes back...the underperformer will get another chance to underperform - only in Pakistan.

[Fireworks11]

Very much so, good work man.

[WithLoveFromCanada]

^^ apparently you didnt pick that gothamcronie118 gave the same answer when asked about it. lol

[Fireworks11]

Too many threads here.

[Energy]

Too many suggestions for the test team on the back of one poor performance.

Rana might be a good choice for limited overs cricket, but not sure if he's for the stamina in him for test cricket. Playing county cricket is different from playing internationals (pressure wise atleast).

[tauseefm]

No thank you. We do not need him

[Pak_Jazba]

The guy has become even more hefty, and people want him back?

[Amjid Javed]

Just because hes playing well in county cricket, doesnt mean hes going to do it at test level.

He was pretty average in chances he got at test level.

[AZ]

that photo is deceptive.

even then, can he give 10 good overs? that's all that really matters.

[Energy]

Performance does not see calories. But yes, one should see performance first!

[kingusama92]

He's added a few pounds, BUT he always was chubby.

[The Muppets XI]

lol - looks more like he's wearing 40 sweaters!!! must be feeling the cold, his hairs standing on end......

[Sledger]

No he shouldn't. Some serious over-reactions after the last game.

The mentality of players being out of the team looking 100x better than they actaully are amongst some fans is still there though.

[Fireworks11]

His comeback to the LOIs set up warrants a second thought, certainly.

[1137moiz]

I never thought weight was an issue unless the player was tragically unfit (Dwayne Leverock).

India's team is filled with short tubby batsmen. Inzamam was one of our best fielders. Etc, etc, etc

Btw:

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...d.php?t=128467

[Fireworks11]

Judge his performances, not his figure.

[1137moiz]

Judge the figures, not the figure

[Fireworks11]

Originally Posted by 1137moiz Judge the figures, not the figure

Indeed, it's all about wickets.

[1137moiz]

Even so, there's no room for him in Tests

[kkmix]

Do we need more youngsters in the team?

[WithLoveFromCanada]

^^ Rana is an experienced youngster.

[kkmix]

^^ very experienced underperforming , youngster.

[emclub]

No way he should be in tests, maybe in ODI's, definitely in T20's

[kkmix]

Originally Posted by emclub No way he should be in tests, maybe in ODI's, definitely in T20's

definitely.

for his club team.

[Fireworks11]

He'd be useful in T20s, his willow bashing has improved vastly.

[1137moiz]

Fireworks, don't you mean cherry-clubbing?

[majiz]

Well we don't have a pace attack at the moment and so it certainly needs tinkering with. If not with the inclusion of Naved then with someone else, Wahab and Gul are mediocre.

[TigerJat]

I don't think our problem is our bowling.

I would keep him as far away from the team as possible. He is a very average player...

[talha3]

Some are saying he would be better suited in ODIs. I actually think the opposite. The reason he got dropped is because of his inconsistency. In crucial games at crucial times he would bowl rubbish, despite bowling excellent in other games.

The 1st game I ever saw with my own eyes was the final odi pak vs eng 5th odi with the series at 2-1 to pak (one rained off). Pak got bowled out cheaply (130 i think), but then due to asif and others, we got england to 7 down with 30 runs to go and only the tail left. Rana comes in to the attack against Saj mahmood, and bowls 4 wide outside off stump deliveries that all go for boundaries. Game over.

[1137moiz]

Originally Posted by talha.raja Some are saying he would be better suited in ODIs. I actually think the opposite. The reason he got dropped is because of his inconsistency. In crucial games at crucial times he would bowl rubbish, despite bowling excellent in other games. The 1st game I ever saw with my own eyes was the final odi pak vs eng 5th odi with the series at 2-1 to pak (one rained off). Pak got bowled out cheaply (130 i think), but then due to asif and others, we got england to 7 down with 30 runs to go and only the tail left. Rana comes in to the attack against Saj mahmood, and bowls 4 wide outside off stump deliveries that all go for boundaries. Game over.

Actually we were 154/9, neither bowled out nor 130.

Point taken though, that was a heck of a crap spell. Wholehearted and occasionally superb bowler, but way too inconsistent was Rana.

[CoolSERAZ]

i think mohammad sami and rana both should play in tests. he and rana on field in a test=opposition forfeits due to immediate blindness on seeing their hairstyles...

[talha3]

Originally Posted by 1137moiz Actually we were 154/9, neither bowled out nor 130. Point taken though, that was a heck of a crap spell. Wholehearted and occasionally superb bowler, but way too inconsistent was Rana.

Well you hardly keep your eyes peeled on the scoreboard when you go to see your first game. But I'll never forget those 4 fours. I'll also never forget Asif's spell, and that first wicket of Ed Joyce, which was a typical bowled 'Asif ball'.

Yep, agree with points on rana.

[majiz]

Originally Posted by TigerJat I don't think our problem is our bowling. I would keep him as far away from the team as possible. He is a very average player...

It's may not be the main one, but we're a rubbish test team all round at the moment.

[1137moiz]

Originally Posted by talha.raja Well you hardly keep your eyes peeled on the scoreboard when you go to see your first game. But I'll never forget those 4 fours. I'll also never forget Asif's spell, and that first wicket of Ed Joyce, which was a typical bowled 'Asif ball'. Yep, agree with points on rana.

Yep...I seriously thought it was gonna be a classic Pakistan defence of a low total. Thrilling little match

[James]

His hairstyle might add something to the team. You never know.

[KingKhanWC]

He has been accused of under performing, no need to take risks with such a player.

He's not good enough to get into the XI anyway.

[Hasnain_786]

*** were did he get that from!?

[Fireworks11]

Originally Posted by 1137moiz Fireworks, don't you mean cherry-clubbing?

Cherry clubbing

Willow bashing

Cherry slashing

Clattering carnage

Brutal battering

Cherry savage

Choose your pick.

[atiff_uk]

Originally Posted by Hasnain_786 *** were did he get that from!?

from his chest!!!... great ODI bowler

[atiff_uk]

Originally Posted by Hasnain_786 *** were did he get that from!?

from his chest!!!... great ODI bowler

[alberto]

rana is a quality limited overs bowler.he can even bat at number 3

[abc_to_xyz]

Need a new bowler, he's crap..

[CORNERED-TIGER]

rubbish test bowler
sami n rana both sucks in real cricket!

[majiz]

Originally Posted by CORNERED-TIGER rubbish test bowler sami n rana both sucks in real cricket!

I honestly believe Gul and Wahab are worse.

[CORNERED-TIGER]

Originally Posted by majiz I honestly believe Gul and Wahab are worse.

stats dont lie go n check!

[Fawad_Bhai]

at all those who think he should make a comeback

[Fireworks11]

Originally Posted by Fawad_Bhai at all those who think he should make a comeback

He could do a fine job in T20s, we suck in that atm.

[Justcrazy]

Rana should be in the shorter formats of the game. It is really sad that he is not in. With Asif and Amir gone I think Rana and Yasir should both be tried, in fact they can easily go with 5 specialist bowlers along with Hafeez as sixth option with Rana and Yasir because both are handy with the bat.

7. Rana
8. Yasir
9. Afridi
10.Gul
11.Ajmal.

Does the batting look weak with afridi at 9, or the bowling.

[Ummer Khan]

No thank you. We are better off without the UNDER PERFORMER

[cricketindiafan]

Wasn't he banned for underperforming on the 2010 Aus tour of Pakistan?

[WNC]

Originally Posted by cricketindiafan Wasn't he banned for underperforming on the 2010 Aus tour of Pakistan?

Kal ka villain, aaj ka hero

I don't know fellas, it's time to move on. Groom Hammad Azam for the all-rounder spot and try to find others as well. Surely we can't just have 4 allrounders in all of Pak? (Razzaq, Arafat, Naved and Azam)?

[majiz]

5 wicket haul.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-c...appertype=live

[talha3]

His team, 70-6, in big trouble. Just lost 4 wickets in 2 overs. What does rana do?

HIT A SIX!!

and he's just hit another 4.

[Amjid Javed]

Originally Posted by cricketindiafan Wasn't he banned for underperforming on the 2010 Aus tour of Pakistan?

Probably! Then again it just seem like a usual crap performance from him!

[majiz]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-c...ch/492110.html

That's another 5 wickets and 10 in the match.

He seems lethal at cleaning up the tail.

[talha3]

Rana's in fine form with bat and ball.

[PakiPardesi]

Not with that hair style, he shouldn't!

First he needs to shave off those pubes atop his head and then he can be in the team. Afterall, it's all about the hair! Isn't that why Afridi has such a huge fan fan following?

[saad1024]

Originally Posted by talha.raja The 1st game I ever saw with my own eyes was the final odi pak vs eng 5th odi with the series at 2-1 to pak (one rained off). Pak got bowled out cheaply (130 i think), but then due to asif and others, we got england to 7 down with 30 runs to go and only the tail left. Rana comes in to the attack against Saj mahmood, and bowls 4 wide outside off stump deliveries that all go for boundaries. Game over.

And I also remember his rubbish spell during Champions Trophy '09 SF. Looks much improved though going by his recent stats. If nothing else, the flowing mane surely does!

[BoiWonder]

Originally Posted by PakiPardesi Not with that hair style, he shouldn't! First he needs to shave off those pubes atop his head and then he can be in the team. Afterall, it's all about the hair! Isn't that why Afridi has such a huge fan fan following?

totally agree with you

[wasim-fan]

subject to his fitness, yes

[emclub]

10 wickets against Somerset yesterday

[Tera Gawaandi]

I hate chubby fast bowlers, his bowling runup is annoying, has huge 'pichwara' and way he twists before bowling crease. Rampaul also fall in same category.