BJP wants de-nuclearisation of Pakistan

[A2011]

NEW DELHI: Opposition BJP on Tuesday said the spate of attacks on military installations in Pakistan points to a threat that nuclear facilities there may fall into wrong hands and demanded de-nuclearisation of the neighbouring country in global interest.

"BJP believes that the internal security situation in Pakistan is alarming. The Mehran naval base in Karachi was attacked despite being well-protected. In the last two years, several military installations there, which are highly guarded locations, have been attacked," BJP spokesperson Rajiv Pratap Rudy said.

About 15-20 Taliban gunmen had attacked the Mehran naval base on Saturday night. Fourteen people were killed and two surveillance planes destroyed in the attack.

Giving an illustrative list of defence installations attacked in Pakistan in the past two years in cities like Faislabad, Rawalpindi, Lahore and Islamabad, among others, Rudy said, "We are aware that Pakistan today has the fourth largest arsenal of nuclear weapons in the world. We know rogues of Taliban who have been targeting military facilities will try to lay their hands on nuclear weapons in an attempt to make a dirty bomb."

Insisting that there is an urgent need to "sanitise" Pakistan for world peace, Rudy said, "There is an imminent need for the world to de-nuclearise Pakistan. The present situation there post-Osama bin Laden makes the issue very pertinent."

He maintained that this was more so as jihadi elements had entered the Pakistan military. "A matter of deep concern for India and the whole world is that there is full-fledged jihadisation of the Pakistan army... Pakistan military establishment is not secure due to the entry of jihadi elements," Rudy said.

He said the seriousness of the threat to Pakistan can be understood from the fact that the attack on Mehran naval base continued for more than 17 hours and though the establishment is well-guarded, the Taliban gunmen succeeded in penetrating it. "Even when Pakistan is on highest alert after the Abbottabad incident in which Osama bin Laden was eliminated, the men managed to get in," the BJP spokesperson said.

The question that arose is how Pakistan was going to protect itself, said Rudy, adding, "Pakistan has become the hotbed and epicentre of terror. Moreover, it has the rare mobile nuclear capability."

The Opposition party asked the US to check where its $100 million given to Pakistan for securing its nuclear installations had been spent. In a reference to the reported court statements of Pakistani-American LeT operative David Coleman Headley in Chicago, Rudy said now it has been proven beyond doubt that ISI perpetrates terror against India.


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[kingusama92]

India should lead the way then.

[Watsupdoc]

It was about time people were going to say that, but Pak shouldn't give up the nukes. It's their only safety net.

[WithLoveFromCanada]

Of course its a matter of concern for them as existence of entire hinduism depends on the existence of India. Even if they wipe Pakistan out in return, muslims are to remain in majority in other countries.

[Watsupdoc]

Originally Posted by kingusama92 India should lead the way then.

That's the thing, either everyone should give up nukes or no one should...

[Inswinger]

How convenient.

[Prince_Pathan]

this is exactly what was bound to happen

and its obvious what ever is going on in pak is not the pakistanis own doing...



pa gran watan ke ghare agyhar na manooo

[violet_may]

BJP wants de-nuclearisation of Pakistan

And India will "de-nuclearise" as well?

[Sir_Afridi]

ISI wants de -indianisation from Asia

[muzher]

Whole world should be free of such weapons of terrible power. As it stands at the moment, if one is used more will be, and the human race will probably be wiped out.

[cornered-tigers]

saying it in words is one thing, doing it altogether different,

[Looney]

Umm , okay , Santa asks what else they want for Christmas ?

[NJamal]

Performing on the script provided by US very nicely no wonder they belong to the land of Bollywood rukh khan

[freelance_cricketer]

I want denuclearisation of this whole god damn planet

[cricketindiafan]

And they were the ones who started this nuclear race in the sub continent by exploding the bomb in 1998. Wonder whom is the BJP trying to fool.

[freelance_cricketer]

Originally Posted by cricketindiafan And they were the ones who started this nuclear race in the sub continent by exploding the bomb in 1998. Wonder whom is the BJP trying to fool.

That was a national achievment man

[TukTuk]

Originally Posted by cricketindiafan And they were the ones who started this nuclear race in the sub continent by exploding the bomb in 1998. Wonder whom is the BJP trying to fool.

India have a no-first use policy wheras pakistan has no such policy also the presence of al-qaida and taliban plus the rough elements in ISI and Pak Army makes the present situation very dangerous.
Forget about the Religious mullas here on Pakpassion i have seen posters openly advocating of a nuclear war on India or Isreal.
Instead of removing nuclear weapons from pakistan, We can step a joint team involving neutral countries such as denmak/Norway/switzerland which will monitor the safety and security of Nuclear weapons in Pakistan.

[NJamal]

Originally Posted by TukTuk India have a no-first use policy wheras pakistan has no such policy also the presence of al-qaida and taliban plus the rough elements in ISI and Pak Army makes the present situation very dangerous. Forget about the Religious mullas here on Pakpassion i have seen posters openly advocating of a nuclear war on India or Isreal. Instead of removing nuclear weapons from pakistan, We can step a joint team involving neutral countries such as denmak/Norway/switzerland which will monitor the safety and security of Nuclear weapons in Pakistan.

Denmark, Norway & Switzerland.

They should worry more about their drug addicted population.

[james_bond]

Originally Posted by njamal574 Denmark, Norway & Switzerland. They should worry more about there drug addicted population.

good one man.

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[cricketindiafan]

Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer That was a national achievment man

National achievement? Yeah, like it did help solve all the problems we were facing. Ask a common man who is struggling to make his both ends meet, if it comforts him that we are a nuclear country.

Whatever it was, it did start an arms race in the region and since then we have seen our defence budgets rise steeply, precious money which could alternatively be used in welfare programs

[praveen]

Opposition parties are after all supposed to say such things.

[DeadlyVenom]

Id be very happy if there was a world without nuclear weapons but there isnt and Pakistan is surrounded on all sides by enemies. BJP is having a laugh if they are asking for this.

[sakss]

fail....bjp

[MIG]

Sure - no problem.

Now will you let us be your friends? pls sir ?

[Dr. Schaden Freud]

They are the opposition party, right now, so, they'd say absolutely anything they can to make the government look bad. Attacking Pakistan through press-conference would give the impression that the government is not putting enough pressure on Pakistan and is not capable of pushing the 26/11 probe ahead whereas they themselves come across as "tough guys".

The the power was with them, they'd be toeing congress' current line and congress would be making statements like this.

[Dr. Schaden Freud]

Originally Posted by DeadlyVenom Id be very happy if there was a world without nuclear weapons but there isnt and Pakistan is surrounded on all sides by enemies. BJP is having a laugh if they are asking for this.

Absolutely.

Unfortunately, there is no political will and consensus among the political big wigs to make a world without nuclear weapons possible.

Sad state of affairs.

[neo87]

Originally Posted by kingusama92 India should lead the way then.

Pehle bade dil wala (First you should do as you have big hearts)

[asifp]

the only was someone like Taliban etc can make a dirty bomb is if they are supported by a country that already has a nuclear bomb.

Do they think Nuclear bombs are toys that someone can just go in put in a suit case and walk out.

[praveen]

To be honest, India has every right to be worried now. The rate at which the army bases are being easily targeted in Pakistan, neighbors will definitely feel the fear of weapons falling into misguided hands.

BJP should have ideally asked Pakistan to pull up its socks and concentrate on strengthening its internal security and prevent these attacks from happening. De-nuclearization is impossible to achieve. As i said before, such statements are ruling party talks and the opposition need not be diplomatic.

[cricketindiafan]

Originally Posted by Dr. Schaden Freud They are the opposition party, right now, so, they'd say absolutely anything they can to make the government look bad. Attacking Pakistan through press-conference would give the impression that the government is not putting enough pressure on Pakistan and is not capable of pushing the 26/11 probe ahead whereas they themselves come across as "tough guys". The the power was with them, they'd be toeing congress' current line and congress would be making statements like this.

Exactly, all this is mere political posturing and should be seen in that light alone.

[praveen]

Originally Posted by Dr. Schaden Freud Absolutely. Unfortunately, there is no political will and consensus among the political big wigs to make a world without nuclear weapons possible. Sad state of affairs.

No point in blaming the political big wigs. Every country has spent unimaginable dollars for achieving nuclear security, how can they think of let it go just like that?

May be, there can be strict international pacts, which can create a sense of security amongst all the countries.

[Garuda]

Originally Posted by asifp the only was someone like Taliban etc can make a dirty bomb is if they are supported by a country that already has a nuclear bomb. Do they think Nuclear bombs are toys that someone can just go in put in a suit case and walk out.

With the recent developments there will be more and more people who would say the same thing what BJP said.

Its more to do with what common man thinks as all are not nuclear experts to know what it takes to make or detonate a bomb.

Pakistan has these bombs for more than a decade now. Why are people worried about it now? There must be some reason behind their fear.

[neo87]

Originally Posted by Garuda With the recent developments there will be more and more people who would say the same thing what BJP said. Its more to do with what common man thinks as all are not nuclear experts to know what it takes to make or detonate a bomb. Pakistan has these bombs for more than a decade now. Why are people worried about it now? There must be some reason behind their fear.

Exactly , These people are trained to blow themselves up enuff said.

[Dr. Schaden Freud]

Having bombs which can blow up half the world is hardly a security measure, mate. But, it's a competitive world. If one has it, the others have to have the same thing and nobody would sacrifice his nuclear weapons unless everyone else does.

And bringing about such a consensus is next to impossible.

Ultimately, nuclear weapons are about bringing about a sense of insecurity in all others and the sense of security you get is derived from others' insecurity.

[cricketfanfirst]

Is it possible to detect the nuclear weapon location, for example, if some rouge element is roaming around with it? I mean does some technology exists for this?

I know after detonation, we can find the location through radiation BUT what if some rouge element carries it and travels some where?

[Dr. Schaden Freud]

Originally Posted by cricketfanfirst Is it possible to detect the nuclear weapon location, for example, if some rouge element is roaming around with it? I mean does some technology exists for this? I know after detonation, we can find the location through radiation BUT what if some rouge element carries it and travels some where?

Yes, the detector is called a scouter.

[Sachin85]

Double post

[Sachin85]

Typical Indian politics. The opposition demands the govt takes some action, which is impossible. When the opposition comes into power they forget. Then its the other party's turn.

Pathetic.

[freelance_cricketer]

Originally Posted by cricketindiafan National achievement? Yeah, like it did help solve all the problems we were facing. Ask a common man who is struggling to make his both ends meet, if it comforts him that we are a nuclear country. Whatever it was, it did start an arms race in the region and since then we have seen our defence budgets rise steeply, precious money which could alternatively be used in welfare programs

This is again
Spending on defence is the absolute necessity, especially for us being sorrounded by enemies in all directions. And we aren't all that, more has to be done and happening. The massive upgradation that is going on is all for a reason.
We have learnt enough from the two war experiences in the 1960s with the Chinese and Pakistanis.

[Afridi_Fan]

And why the **** should we give a crap what an Indian party thinks about our nuclear assets?

[NJamal]

PKU- wants De-bollyisation of India. They consider it a threat to their young generation.

[shan]

Indians always boast about how in case of Nuke War they will have advantge because of being 4 times bigger in land area and 7 in population. No wonder Pakistan cant stop making more and more nukes to cover every inch of Indian land. Pakistan cant keep up with arm race so Nukes are only option left.

[GOAT]

I want a cheese burger but it's 8:00 a.m. in the morning.

[cricketindiafan]

Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer This is again Spending on defence is the absolute necessity, especially for us being sorrounded by enemies in all directions. And we aren't all that, more has to be done and happening. The massive upgradation that is going on is all for a reason. We have learnt enough from the two war experiences in the 1960s with the Chinese and Pakistanis.

Keep spending on defence but let the poor starve, young kids go wthout education.

Sorry, you may be a "nationalist" but I am not. I would much rather kids get proper education, poor getting access to proper health services and millions who go without two proper meals get some food to eat before spending billions on the defence equipment (almost all of which is procured through shady deals with kickbacks filling the coffers of the criminals).

[praveen]

Originally Posted by cricketindiafan Keep spending on defence but let the poor starve, young kids go wthout education. Sorry, you may be a "nationalist" but I am not. I would much rather kids get proper education, poor getting access to proper health services and millions who go without two proper meals get some food to eat before spending billions on the defence equipment (almost all of which is procured through shady deals with kickbacks filling the coffers of the criminals).

huh? You need to get back to reality dude.

[abdulqadir786]

dang indians have taken over pp, a joke peps

[Romali_rotti]

Originally Posted by MIG Sure - no problem. Now will you let us be your friends? pls sir ?

NO!!!!!!!!!!!! GO AWAY :-p

[KingKhanWC]

Why are BJP worried about nukes when sticks are enough for them?

As if Pakistan will give up it's nukes now. BJP are just one of many who will be calling for this now but it won't happen.

Is it possible to detect the nuclear weapon location, for example, if some rouge element is roaming around with it? I mean does some technology exists for this? I know after detonation, we can find the location through radiation BUT what if some rouge element carries it and travels some where?

If you're worried about lost nukes then you should worry about the US.

[freelance_cricketer]

Originally Posted by cricketindiafan Keep spending on defence but let the poor starve, young kids go wthout education. Sorry, you may be a "nationalist" but I am not. I would much rather kids get proper education, poor getting access to proper health services and millions who go without two proper meals get some food to eat before spending billions on the defence equipment (almost all of which is procured through shady deals with kickbacks filling the coffers of the criminals).

They better die as Indians with head high.
If you wont spend on your defense there wont be an Indian left. Few embarrassing slaps from the enemies around and the common man wont even feel like calling himself an Indian.
Dude roti, kapda , makaaan are the basic needs but security is without a shadow of a doubt the most important. It's not that we are left with nothing after all the spendings on defence, if you think so you're wrong. We after spending billions of dollars on defense still have more than enough money to spend on infrastructure, just a matter of spending it wisely. Our economy is massive and only growing, don't be kanjuus bro . I am getting your points, but we are taking care of all that too

Do you want a repeat of 1962 ?

and this same thing justifies Pakistan spending money on defense when they are economically not as strong as India although in their case all that could have been avoided. Just that this is what they have chosen

[the SHA]

Originally Posted by MIG Sure - no problem. Now will you let us be your friends? pls sir ?

lol

[tauseefm]

The only way i can think of "de-nuclearisation" is to throw all of the nukes at our neighbor(india)