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Old 29th May 2011, 19:37
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How to Join ISI ?? Inter-Services Intelligence

does somebody know???


i have heard even some of the people who work for them their family don't even know that they work for ISI

For example the 2 boys who got killed by Raymond Davis....nobody knew they were ISI agents not even their families


I would love to work for ISI

does somebody know how????

i know their head office is in Islamabad and is very big and has massive walls
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Old 29th May 2011, 19:38
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Old 29th May 2011, 19:40
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Old 29th May 2011, 19:41
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u can get the ISI job seeking forums at the local post office
if somebody knows send me a private message we don't want Raw & Mossad to find out
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Old 29th May 2011, 19:42
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Both civilians and members of the armed forces can join the ISI. For civilians, recruitment is advertised and is jointly handled by the Federal Public Services Commission (FPSC) and civilian ISI agents are considered employees of the Ministry of Defense. The FPSC conducts various examinations testing the candidate's knowledge of current affairs, English and various analytical abilities. Based on the results, the FPSC shortlists the candidates and sends the list to the ISI who conduct the initial background checks. The selected candidates are then invited for an interview which is conducted by a joint committee comprising both ISI and FPSC officials.

Those candidates who passed the interview then have to go through rigorous fitness, medical and psychological evaluations. Once the candidate clears these evaluations, the ISI performs a very thorough background check on the candidate before being offered to join the ISI. Security clearance is granted once the candidate accepts the offer. Recruited agents then go to the Inter-Services Intelligence School for basic training following which they are employed on an initial one year probationary period. However, civilian operatives are not allowed to rise above the equivalent of the rank of Major and are mostly assigned to JIX, JIB and JCIB departments and the rest of the departments are solely headed by the armed forces but there have been rare cases in which civilians have been assigned to those departments.

For the armed forces, officers have to apply for admission into the Inter-Services Intelligence School. After finishing the intelligence course, they can apply to be posted in Field Intelligence Units or in the directorate of Military/Air/Naval intelligence. Then they wait and hope that their performance is good enough to be invited to the ISI for a temporary posting. Based on their performance in the military and the temporary posting with ISI, they are then offered a more permanent position.

Senior ISI officers with ranks of Major and above are only assigned to the ISI for no more than two to three years to curtail the attempt to abuse their power. Almost all of the Director-Generals of the ISI have never served in the organization before being appointed by the military commanders to lead it. ISI also monitors former, current and retired military officers who at one point or another held sensitive positions and had access to classified data.However in some special circumstances officers with outstanding achievements are given an extended appointment and even a lifetime (till 60 years of age) job.
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Old 29th May 2011, 19:42
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Old 29th May 2011, 19:42
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Most of the people working in ISI are personnel of Armed forces of Pakistan i.e. Army, Airforce & Navy. They are sent to work in ISI for a specific amount of time. ISI also recruit a very small number of civilians and for this you have to consult their offices.
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Old 29th May 2011, 19:43
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Officers and soldiers in Pak Army are selected to serve in the ISI. They have some civilian staff as well, but overwhelming majority is composed of personals from the Army.

But its a tough job, trust me. Unless you are extremely motivated and dedicated you dont want to be in the ISI.
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Old 29th May 2011, 19:46
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thanks KKmix interesting read
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Old 29th May 2011, 19:47
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I have a Dutch passport which means i won't have a change
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Old 29th May 2011, 19:48
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But i would think that they would be more interested in foreign pakistani who have had more education.

But i would say at the moment the ISI is a really jewel of a agency
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Old 29th May 2011, 20:05
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I suggest reading up on Ghazi true story of an isi operative. Few years back it was on kooldreamz I think google it
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Old 29th May 2011, 20:11
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I suggest reading up on Ghazi true story of an isi operative. Few years back it was on kooldreamz I think google it
can you find me a link i am struggling to find it everywhere i go its deleted
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Old 29th May 2011, 20:31
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I can't read urdu.... is it available in English?
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Old 29th May 2011, 20:41
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Nah bro, it aint available in Urdu, but this story was so thrilling, undescribable.

Events of 1971 lead to his "a civil engineer working on one of the dams" joining isi through his colonol friend. Went to india after training and did wonders with a 5 men group in 1973-1974
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Old 29th May 2011, 20:43
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Nah bro, it aint available in Urdu, but this story was so thrilling, undescribable.

Events of 1971 lead to his "a civil engineer working on one of the dams" joining isi through his colonol friend. Went to india after training and did wonders with a 5 men group in 1973-1974
How can i get hold of it ???

I can't read urdu so thats ok
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Old 29th May 2011, 20:44
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Indians from Gorukhpoor area who lived near the mountains in those years can be witness to a major fire that took place in the iaf bas

He got caught by the DMI/Raw and was beaten to a sh** position, almost died in the hellhole but managed to escape.
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Old 29th May 2011, 20:48
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Sorry I meant to say its not available in English. My mistake.
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Old 29th May 2011, 20:49
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Indians from Gorukhpoor area who lived near the mountains in those years can be witness to a major fire that took place in the iaf bas

He got caught by the DMI/Raw and was beaten to a sh** position, almost died in the hellhole but managed to escape.
don't tell the story i want to read it.... pls advise how i can get hold of it
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Old 29th May 2011, 20:49
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Sorry I meant to say its not available in English. My mistake.
OH ....


Ill ask my mrs to read it for me she can...

but help me to get hold of it
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Old 29th May 2011, 20:53
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you can join the armed forces and go through to the isi from there, apply through ispr's website, however its very tough and difficult to get in, the tests are hard and you need a high iq level. you will also need to pass CSS exams before they even consider you.
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Old 29th May 2011, 21:06
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u dont join them they recruit u. isi have hired some students from my batch, just recently.

not all the students were approached. only those who are on the out reach scholarship program which is paid by the government.
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Old 29th May 2011, 21:15
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Old 29th May 2011, 21:16
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I will find it for you once I go home. On blackberry right now.
its ok i have downloaded the book

Just getting me mrs convinced to read it
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Old 29th May 2011, 21:16
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My dads brother who died was a major in the ISI he did a special mission Quoted by Zardari sahab in the funeral but he always carried a gun and stuff we all knew
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Old 29th May 2011, 21:17
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u dont join them they recruit u. isi have hired some students from my batch, just recently.

not all the students were approached. only those who are on the out reach scholarship program which is paid by the government.
Must be a honour for them


Really i have every luxury in life but it just feels incomplete

i would love to work for them but i guess you have to struggle big time.......
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Old 29th May 2011, 21:19
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My dads brother who died was a major in the ISI he did a special mission Quoted by Zardari sahab in the funeral but he always carried a gun and stuff we all knew
god bless him must be a honour
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Old 29th May 2011, 21:24
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u dont join them they recruit u. isi have hired some students from my batch, just recently.

not all the students were approached. only those who are on the out reach scholarship program which is paid by the government.
yes they do select the best students in military funded institutes like nust. many engineering students from there have made innovative defence systems, these would than be offered a position,
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Old 29th May 2011, 21:29
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As a foreign citizen, you're automatically disqualified unless you're a dual Pakistani citizen 'AND' you're willing to renounce your Dutch citizenship. There's no absolutely no way in hell to get around that rule.
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Old 29th May 2011, 21:36
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Must be a honour for them


Really i have every luxury in life but it just feels incomplete

i would love to work for them but i guess you have to struggle big time.......
they are being hired as software engineers.the market salary in lahore is around Rs35000+ while they are offering Rs 65000 to unmarried and Rs70000 to married.

also i am sure there will be many other restrictions, such as freedom,, etc..
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Old 29th May 2011, 21:38
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yes they do select the best students in military funded institutes like nust. many engineering students from there have made innovative defence systems, these would than be offered a position,
my university is not a military funded uni, i am in FAST. and the toppers of my batch are not in the scholarship. they were not approached only the scholarship holders, though they are good at what they do.
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Old 29th May 2011, 21:42
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they are being hired as software engineers.the market salary in lahore is around Rs35000+ while they are offering Rs 65000 to unmarried and Rs70000 to married.

also i am sure there will be many other restrictions, such as freedom,, etc..
thats really good money
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Old 29th May 2011, 22:01
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Old 29th May 2011, 22:38
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@Insaf ya by clicking that link there people can hook up with bolly actress we know about that never Mind....




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What a a fabulous information and nicely written i think u r watching 007 movie more than required...

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What a a fabulous information and nicely return i think u r watching 007 movie more than required...
Relax Guys.

It was a joke post. I thought would give you guys a hint.
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Old 29th May 2011, 22:55
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It is the best intelligence service in the world for a reason you know .. so I can imagine it being very tough to join..

But one thing i am sure about is that they will conduct a very deep family background check and also go through your fb/twitter etc etc. So be careful on the net. lol.
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Old 29th May 2011, 22:56
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It was a joke post. I thought would give you guys a hint.
Guess you didn't see the smiley in my post...joke's on you
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Old 29th May 2011, 23:24
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Mian Hassan is soon going to get a random email or approaching of some sort from some hostile intel agency.

He will be recruited by them in the name of isi.

Then he will be working agauinst isi and he won't even know.

Hahahahah
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Old 29th May 2011, 23:38
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Both civilians and members of the armed forces can join the ISI. For civilians, recruitment is advertised and is jointly handled by the Federal Public Services Commission (FPSC) and civilian ISI agents are considered employees of the Ministry of Defense. The FPSC conducts various examinations testing the candidate's knowledge of current affairs, English and various analytical abilities. Based on the results, the FPSC shortlists the candidates and sends the list to the ISI who conduct the initial background checks. The selected candidates are then invited for an interview which is conducted by a joint committee comprising both ISI and FPSC officials.

Those candidates who passed the interview then have to go through rigorous fitness, medical and psychological evaluations. Once the candidate clears these evaluations, the ISI performs a very thorough background check on the candidate before being offered to join the ISI. Security clearance is granted once the candidate accepts the offer. Recruited agents then go to the Inter-Services Intelligence School for basic training following which they are employed on an initial one year probationary period. However, civilian operatives are not allowed to rise above the equivalent of the rank of Major and are mostly assigned to JIX, JIB and JCIB departments and the rest of the departments are solely headed by the armed forces but there have been rare cases in which civilians have been assigned to those departments.

For the armed forces, officers have to apply for admission into the Inter-Services Intelligence School. After finishing the intelligence course, they can apply to be posted in Field Intelligence Units or in the directorate of Military/Air/Naval intelligence. Then they wait and hope that their performance is good enough to be invited to the ISI for a temporary posting. Based on their performance in the military and the temporary posting with ISI, they are then offered a more permanent position.

Senior ISI officers with ranks of Major and above are only assigned to the ISI for no more than two to three years to curtail the attempt to abuse their power. Almost all of the Director-Generals of the ISI have never served in the organization before being appointed by the military commanders to lead it. ISI also monitors former, current and retired military officers who at one point or another held sensitive positions and had access to classified data.However in some special circumstances officers with outstanding achievements are given an extended appointment and even a lifetime (till 60 years of age) job.
lolz

a v good mix of truth and fantasy.
for civilians there is absolutely no rank of major.
they have different cadres and ranks which have nothing to do with the major or lt col etc etc.
they can rise high and could be head of provincial team even.
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Old 30th May 2011, 00:03
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does somebody know???


i have heard even some of the people who work for them their family don't even know that they work for ISI

For example the 2 boys who got killed by Raymond Davis....nobody knew they were ISI agents not even their families


I would love to work for ISI

does somebody know how????

i know their head office is in Islamabad and is very big and has massive walls
why do you like to work for ISI anyway? massive walled office is not a good reason.. and if are patriotic person then u can join army..
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Old 30th May 2011, 00:15
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Didnt know that Raymond Davis killed ISI agents. Its true?
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Old 30th May 2011, 00:16
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You sholdnt have any problem since the standard is pretty low. One just need to see terrorists attacks to gues how good they are.
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Didnt know that Raymond Davis killed ISI agents. Its true?
Yeah, I would like to find that out s well, I thought he was being robbed of his car....
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Old 30th May 2011, 09:42
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Btw, how many languages do you know?
English . Dutch . Urdu . Punjabi. All fluent

This might give me a good chance

I have sent them my achievements with cv

I am 22 years old have worked 1 year for IBM and the last 3 years as project manager........with such a cv in short time I hope they don't overlook ....by the way they must need a spy on pakpassion
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Old 30th May 2011, 09:45
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Old 30th May 2011, 09:46
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Yeah, I would like to find that out s well, I thought he was being robbed of his car....
No mate you are wrong informed they were isi agents they were following him for a while but he found out ......

Plus why rob a car in the middle of lahore in rush hour time ?????
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Old 30th May 2011, 10:36
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lol Whats going on in time pass recently ??? First ppl want to join Pak air force, now ISI... SAJ are you hiding anything ? ..
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Old 30th May 2011, 10:50
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As a Dutchman it would be easier to join the AIVD, the Dutch secret service then the ISI can head hunt you to be a double agent.

Or what about R&AW? I hear they are recruiting Pakistanis at the moment for their outsourcing work.
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Its actually not too hard. You can apply online and they come to uni recruitment events. The tests are meant to be far too hard though.
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Mian.... first few episodes of that story are going to be a little plain as he sets up the plot etc..... so ask your wife to be patience... lol

but you won't leave it alone when the story gets going.....
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Mian Hasan you belong to a country where I always dreamed of going....

Amsterdam, holland :

On a serious note - I think people living in foreign countries have a good chance of getting employed to work in that particular country.
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MH any luck in your goal of getting your wife to read the story for you??? lol
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^^ please discuss personal stuff or real life stuff on facebook or on emails and not on pakpassion.
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hows this personal stuff u crajy man aur yeh facebook kya cheez hay?
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Mian Hasan you belong to a country where I always dreamed of going....

Amsterdam, holland :

On a serious note - I think people living in foreign countries have a good chance of getting employed to work in that particular country.
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^^ please discuss personal stuff or real life stuff on facebook or on emails and not on pakpassion.
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He has too much love to offer/get lol
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Whats so personal about what i said?

Asking someone (even if someone is your friend) whether his wife read / watched something is way too personal for an internet forum.
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I don't know maybe Google your friend?

Here you go:
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Whats so personal about what i said?

Asking someone (even if someone is your friend) whether his wife read / watched something is way too personal for an internet forum.
aur bhai privacy k liye suggest kiya b tu facebook?
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I know but overall, people who don't set the settings correctly, their whole life is like an open film.

I have seen many examples of ppl sharing their private stuff with their one friend but thousands ended up seeing em. Lol

Actually Mian brought it up in one of his posts above so that's y I was just asking
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I don't know maybe Google your friend?

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How do you get that? Is it some website? It's pretty cool and patronizing.
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