Most Overrated Players in World Cricket

[Green-Machine]

1) Sami

2) M Vaughan

3) M Clarke

4) M Attapatu

5) VVS Laxman

6) N Boje (if anyone rates him that is)

7) Zaheer Khan

8) Abdur Razak

9) Daniel Vettori

10) Simon Jones (1 series and he is a reverse swing king who would have made the diff in Pakistan).

[zaf1986]

Vaughan is a fine player, and should go back to opening.

Attapattu is also a fine player. You don't get 5 double centuries and centuries against all countries if you're crap.

[qaisar]

How come Razzak is overrated?..

[Green-Machine]

Razzak is over-rated at test level where is in no-mans land. His batting is not good enough nor is his bowling. His bowling is meat and drink for test batsman. His batting is also not test standard.

He is a very good odi player. Period. Not for tests.

I would also have said this about Afridi before this year.

Afridi has come on though. He can ,ake a test class all-rounder (batting at number 6 not opening). Afridis bowling is better then Razaks at test level. His batting is also improving at test level. Better fielder. Destructive player. Can get better.

Razak - no thanks. The odd odi - thats all.

[HAFRIDI]

ME Trescothick
*MP Vaughan
IR Bell
PD Collingwood
KP Pietersen
A Flintoff
+GO Jones
SD Udal
LE Plunkett
MJ Hoggard
SJ Harmison

[irfan]

I hope we don't see Razzak in the test team again.

[Green-Machine]

Vaughan has flattered to deceive in the last 3 years.

He continuously gets yorked.

Apart from his test ton against Aus at Old Trafford, what has he done in last few years of note?

Attapatu.....5 double tons....loads of rubbish scores.

[Daoud]

Sami isnt overated. Apart from Raz, I dont think anyone rates him

Simon Jones isnt overated either. I for one always rated him an excellent bowler (much before the Ashes), and it was only in the Ashes that he showed everyone else how good he is

[Ayubi]

Tendulkar!

[Oxy]

Simon Jones overarted? He's played a handful of tests and done alright in them.

Hating a player is not the same as saying he's overarted...is it not?

[Green-Machine]

I don't hate anybody Oxy...!!

I am not saying Simon Jones is not a good bowler. Just saying that he has had a few Ok series and 1 very good series. I actually rate the guy as a talented bowler. But he is being made out to be a great deal more then he is. He may turn out to be a great bowler. But would he have made a huge diff in Pak?? I'm not sure.


And btw, Tendulkar is NOT overrated Ayubi. One of the all-time greats.

[Officer Barbrady]

1) Sami

He gets his criticism though.

2) M Vaughan

No. Good player!

3) M Clarke

Correct.

4) M Attapatu

True.
5) VVS Laxman

A very good player on his day.

6) N Boje (if anyone rates him that is)

No one rates him.

7) Zaheer Khan

True.

8) Abdur Razak

Correct.
9) Daniel Vettori

Is he really rated?

10) Simon Jones

Has done well. Has pace, swing and that's what you want.

[Easa]

Daniel Vettori is very underrated.

[Rob H]

Over rated
Razzaq - This man gives the word "all-rounder" a bad name
Hayden - Looked good recently but i feel put him v swing and he'll be undone
Sami - no need to answer

Under rated
Team Australia - They'd make mince meat of any team/players right now. Inzi has even struggled (super series 1/0)
Vettori - Great bowler who is an ever improving batsman
SACHIN TENDULKAR! - You'll all be $hitting yourselves in January for sure

[z10]

Originally Posted by RH Over rated Razzaq - This man gives the word "all-rounder" a bad name Hayden - Looked good recently but i feel put him v swing and he'll be undone Sami - no need to answer Under rated Team Australia - They'd make mince meat of any team/players right now. Inzi has even struggled (super series 1/0) Vettori - Great bowler who is an ever improving batsman SACHIN TENDULKAR! - You'll all be $hitting yourselves in January for sure

speak for yourself RH ;)

[Rob H]

Believe me i am. He is looking in too good a form.

[ZM]

why does razzaq give all-rounder a bad name?
he is a more than useful late order hitter and his bowling is also very useful in odis

[z10]

Originally Posted by RH Believe me i am. He is looking in too good a form.

ofcourse we r fine

mr. tendi became bunny to a certain Afridi last time we played ;)

[HAFRIDI]

Originally Posted by RH Over rated Razzaq - This man gives the word "all-rounder" a bad name Hayden - Looked good recently but i feel put him v swing and he'll be undone Sami - no need to answer Under rated Team Australia - They'd make mince meat of any team/players right now. Inzi has even struggled (super series 1/0) Vettori - Great bowler who is an ever improving batsman SACHIN TENDULKAR! - You'll all be $hitting yourselves in January for sure

haha, funny u aint mentioned any eng player

[Green-Machine]

ZM.....I agree Razak is a odi player. He is, however, a terrible test match player.

HOWEVER - the original comment came from RH?? Who appears to be a fan of India??

I say to RH -

RAZAK IS NOT A TEST PLAYER - BUT HE IS WAY WAY BETTER THEN THE NEAREST FAST BOWLING TEST ALL-ROUNDER CLAIMED BY INDIA (Mr Agarkar).

Razak is not test class. Agarkar is two classes below Razak.

Agarkar is Ok for odis though before you think i am ranting.

[ZM]

Originally Posted by RH Believe me i am. He is looking in too good a form.

yeah great form avg of just under 30 vs sl and sa
ooh we're terrified
and not to mention his last 4 games he has scored 2,2,2 and 30

[ZM]

Originally Posted by Green-Machine ZM.....I agree Razak is a odi player. He is, however, a terrible test match player. HOWEVER - the original comment came from RH?? Who appears to be a fan of India?? I say to RH - RAZAK IS NOT A TEST PLAYER - BUT HE IS WAY WAY BETTER THEN THE NEAREST FAST BOWLING TEST ALL-ROUNDER CLAIMED BY INDIA (Mr Agarkar). Razak is not test class. Agarkar is two classes below Razak. Agarkar is Ok for odis though before you think i am ranting.

lol hes english

[adi 101]

Originally Posted by RH Over rated Razzaq - This man gives the word "all-rounder" a bad name Hayden - Looked good recently but i feel put him v swing and he'll be undone Sami - no need to answer Under rated Team Australia - They'd make mince meat of any team/players right now. Inzi has even struggled (super series 1/0) Vettori - Great bowler who is an ever improving batsman SACHIN TENDULKAR! - You'll all be $hitting yourselves in January for sure

anyone heard of someone called ashley giles?

[ZM]

Originally Posted by adi 101 anyone heard of someone called ashley giles?

lol yeah hes probably the worst of them all

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

FLINTOFF! - he is supposed to be superman of cricket who all pakistanis want injured - isnt that right rh?!!

[z10]

Originally Posted by Waqar's inswinging yorker FLINTOFF! - he is supposed to be superman of cricket who all pakistanis want injured - isnt that right rh?!!

RH, do tell us how it felt to see superman get hit back over his head by our number 9 batsman?

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

i have nothing against RH - v good poster he is but superman flintoff didnt back up ur quotes did he?

[Aurangzeb]

howcome we're forgetting irfan "the next wasim" pathan...

[zushy_786]

Irfan Pathan aka fake Pathan would be my choice for most overrated player today...At one point, people thought he was the second coming of Akram & the messiah of Indian bowling

[Aurangzeb]

he's a decent performer in odi's...he likes to rack of wickets against minnows in test cricket...

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by zushy_786 Irfan Pathan aka fake Pathan would be my choice for most overrated player today...At one point, people thought he was the second coming of Akram & the messiah of Indian bowling

granted he is no Akram . . .heck he isnt a pacth on the great man BUT i do think he is a decent bowler! obviously comparisons to the legend are silly and may have got to him a bit - but i think he has a bright future if he stays level headed and doesnt think he is the next Wasim

[Aurangzeb]

he lacks the pace to be world class

[waqar30]

Sachin Tendulkar is the most overrated of all times to come

For those who disagree read the Times of India article i had posted in a different post.Sachin fans have only that desert storm to talk about in 1998 against TomMoody Dam Fleming and Kasprovicz,not to mention Indians bunny Shane Warne.

[shan_m]

vaughan vaughan vaughan!!!!!!!!

the english say hes world class.....compare him to inzi and that world class title soon goes away lol

[Green-Machine]

Pathan - guys - dont mock this man. He isn't Wasim Akram but he never tried to say he was. I tell you that this guy is a GOOD bowler. We need to be wary of him in Pakistan.

And get real - Flintoff is the best allrounder in the world. Has been below par this series but still been best bowler for England in first 2 tests.

[Aurangzeb]

fake pathan burst onto the scene with a bang, but has since trailed off...he only has that one inswinging delivery and players have sorted him out...namely, the beast...

[DM]

Andy Flintoff. That does not mean I think he's a poor player - I think he's a brilliant player and would walk into most, if not any, team in the world. I think he's overrated. The proportion of hype:performance so far is very skewed (hence overrated), i'm faulting not the performance, but the hype.

[Saj]

overrated - Difficult really because a lot of players at certain times in their careers look overrated.

However currently I would say Strauss, Michael Clarke, Jacques Rudolph are 3 that spring to mind.

[adi 101]

Imo, Michael Vaughan, Kevin Pieterson, Ashley Giles, Udal, Geraint Jones, Strauss, Collingwood (sorry If Im Making It Look Like All The England Team) Irfan Pathan, Sami.

[nafajafam]

Ashley Giles
Irfan "I cannot bowl the out-swing" Pathan
Zaheer Khan
Michael Clarke
Sami

[Raz]

Irfan Pathan is not overrated at all! I believe he has what it takes to become a world class all rounder. Inshallah he will.

[Nauman]

RH you wont be calling Razzaq an over rated player after the ODI series.

[Monsee]

Originally Posted by Raz Irfan Pathan is not overrated at all! I believe he has what it takes to become a world class all rounder. Inshallah he will.

Hopefully with your backing, he will do as amazing a job as Sami has, especially in the upcoming series

[Genghis]

Clarke ... possibly overrated for all the accolades he got in his first year, but I still think he will be a very good player for Australia in years to come (if his back doesn't go bad)
Pathan ... only Indian media rates Pathan, the rest of the world doesn't rate him that highly. He is a good bowler though and is becoming a fairly useful allrounder aswell.
Flintoff ... no way is he overrated. One bad game doesn't make you a crap player.
Vettori ... if anything he is underrated. If he had a good supporting bowling side, he would prob be close to the warne, murali status.
Tendulkar ... form is temporary, class is permanent.
Razzak ... yes he is overrated, but I think that is mainly becoz of how well he started early in his career. Since then he has slowed down in his bowling which has dropped his confidence.
Vaughan ... maybe a little overrated, but still a decent batsmen.
Attapatu ... same as Vaughan
Hasan Raza ... heard too much about him ... such high expectations ... but still yet to perform on the international stage. Hope he does break through ... but at the moment very overated by many ppl.

[googly]

Given Raz's track record on Sami, I think Pathan can do without his backing!!

[Monsee]

Originally Posted by googly Given Raz's track record on Sami, I think Pathan can do without his backing!!

all the more reasons for me to ask him to start doing just that...

Pathan fan club on PP

Raz the president

[Aurangzeb]

Originally Posted by Raz Irfan Pathan is not overrated at all! I believe he has what it takes to become a world class all rounder. Inshallah he will.

i know its sporting to root for the other side...but lets not go too far...he is, however, worldclass...























against zimbabwe and bangladesh

[nadeem]

Most overrated:-

Mcgrath (for me he'll always be a metronomic trundler. THe larry gomes of bowling. PPl like majid and viv wud have ended his career in one series).

Rudolph

Taufeeq Umar

Irfan Pathan

Harbhajhan Singh

Kaneria And many others i'm sure.

[Somali Pirate]

Originally Posted by DM Andy Flintoff. That does not mean I think he's a poor player - I think he's a brilliant player and would walk into most, if not any, team in the world. I think he's overrated. The proportion of hype:performance so far is very skewed (hence overrated), i'm faulting not the performance, but the hype.

deserves the hype.Have you seen the ashes?

[Somali Pirate]

Originally Posted by nadeem Most overrated:- Mcgrath (for me he'll always be a metronomic trundler. THe larry gomes of bowling. PPl like majid and viv wud have ended his career in one series). Rudolph Taufeeq Umar Irfan Pathan Harbhajhan Singh Kaneria And many others i'm sure.

[zaf1986]

Originally Posted by nadeem Mcgrath (for me he'll always be a metronomic trundler. THe larry gomes of bowling. PPl like majid and viv wud have ended his career in one series).

Pure entertainment value!!!

[DM]

Originally Posted by Elan Tedronai deserves the hype.Have you seen the ashes?

have you seen the hype?

And I second Nadeem's choices. McGrath might well deserve it though (because i dont think i see too much hype for him), but agreed about what Viv and Majid would do to him.

I guess a lot of this depends on where you live, hence if you're in the UK, you're going to be exposed to all sorts of lavish mythology on players like Flintoff.

[zaf1986]

Originally Posted by DM And I second Nadeem's choices. McGrath might well deserve it though (because i dont think i see too much hype for him), but agreed about what Viv and Majid would do to him.

I wonder why?