Things Afridi Can Learn From Younis Khan

[Dr Khan]

YK went through much worse situation than Afridi. Many senior players in the team were against him, he left the captaincy, was dropped and then banned. Ijaz Butt questioned in place as a player and his discipline. Every body thought his career was over. But YK dealt with the situation with calmness. He did not say even a single word against PCB or Mr Butt, there were no flamboyant press conferences and no accusation on Punjab lobby working against him. Every one knew he was being treated unfairly but the man never complained. Eventually he is back in the team and playing for his country again.

Afridi can learn a thing or two from YK. He should be more graceful in his approach. Every time he bad mouths PCB, he is hurting his own case. We all want Butt to go but Afridi's approach will not help that cause, in fact all this drama has hurt Pakistani cricket more. I honestly think he should seek YK's advice and abide by it. It will be beneficial for him in the long run.

[Inswinger]

As expected, no replies in this thread. I've made such comments before and was told, "What did Younis accomplish?", "He apologized at the end!", etc etc.

People are treating Afridi as if he's a revolutionary. But IMO this is not about Pakistani cricket at all. This is for Afridi the "Superstar". He can do no wrong.

[Pakhtoon_Rules]

yes you are right somehow but someone has to speakup, someone has to stand against pcb in case they dont disrespect its player in future.

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by Pakhtoon_Rules yes you are right somehow but someone has to speakup, someone has to stand against pcb in case they dont disrespect its player in future.

If the person who has credibility and respect among the players and fans speaks against the PCB for the injustice and bad governess of PCB , than makes sense. Here we are talking about a person who has lost his credibility so many times and took stand against PCB for his personal cause ( when removed from captaincy).

This is the same Afridi who was sitting next to Butt and singing the love songs.

[Dr Khan]

Originally Posted by Pakhtoon_Rules yes you are right somehow but someone has to speakup, someone has to stand against pcb in case they dont disrespect its player in future.

In that case Afridi should be stood up for Yk and Moyo when they were treated unfairly. As i remember at that time he was on Butt's side.

[kkmix]

Both are not same individuals, and you cannot say that Younis was right, because he turned out to be a loser in the end, whereas Afridi is way more powerful in terms of fan following an connections. So naturally they would both behave differently.

[Pakhtoon_Rules]

if i remember correctly it was afridi and mohsin khan who push for rre-inclusion of younis in team. Also the current leaks by ijaz and ilyas saab, afridi was pushing for yousaf comeback in wc.

[Savak]

Younis Khan is the loser, an idiot in fact. Fought a losing battle all along. Lets not forget he had to ultimately beg, appologize to Ijaz Butt to get back into the team. The moment he did that all the talk about his principled fight against the PCB went down the drain. He is an idiot for wasting a year of his career when all he needed to do was the practical thing which is fight dirty against dirty.

Afridi is more realistic and practical than YK with a full knowledge about how things work and get done in Pakistan. YK should keep his idealistic principles, viewpoints to himself. Its a major reason why he is always alone in most of his battles with other cricketers, with the PCB, administrators and authorities.

[emclub]

Things Afridi Can Learn From Younis Khan

Pushto? actually Afridi knows that

what else? yea Tuk Tuk

[freelance_cricketer]

Being cool i guess, Afridi is a good guy and i am sure he badly wants to do good for Pakistan but being very jazbaati he does some mistakes which don't work well for the team

[Free Hit]

he already has learnt one, iQuit.

[emclub]

Originally Posted by Free Hit he already has learnt one, Iquit.

good one

[miandadrules]

Originally Posted by Savak Younis Khan is the loser, an idiot in fact. Fought a losing battle all along. Lets not forget he had to ultimately beg, appologize to Ijaz Butt to get back into the team. The moment he did that all the talk about his principled fight against the PCB went down the drain. He is an idiot for wasting a year of his career when all he needed to do was the practical thing which is fight dirty against dirty. Afridi is more realistic and practical than YK with a full knowledge about how things work and get done in Pakistan. YK should keep his idealistic principles, viewpoints to himself. Its a major reason why he is always alone in most of his battles with other cricketers, with the PCB, administrators and authorities.

Now I understand why you think the way you do.

I don't want to be your buddy anymore.

[Bouncer]

Originally Posted by Savak Younis Khan is the loser.

Congratulations....I never thought you could outdone yourselve, and your posts over last few years but today you have managed that....amazing feat!

[IMMY69]

Afridi is a twit and always will be one!!

[Free Hit]

^bow if you call afridi twit that means that you must have a reason and that too valid one otherwise its you the one who might be more suitable for such titles, a twit is only who, who without any reason creates a reason to overdo all the other reasons which might not be a reason to be the reason, so my reason is not reason when a reason is not the right reason.

understand!

[insaftak]

The difference between afridi and younis khan is that one is very humble and the other one has a huge ego.

Lol @ using the word learn in a sentence where afridi's name was mentioned. Afridi never learns.

[PakiPardesi]

When did YK apologize? I remember seeing news reports that he has apologized and then the news came from YK's camp that he has not apologized and that the PCB just gave in and included him in the team.

Do people have any concrete evidence or news from an authentic and credible source that YK apologized?

[IMMY69]

Originally Posted by Free Hit ^bow if you call afridi twit that means that you must have a reason and that too valid one otherwise its you the one who might be more suitable for such titles, a twit is only who, who without any reason creates a reason to overdo all the other reasons which might not be a reason to be the reason, so my reason is not reason when a reason is not the right reason. understand!

Sorry please amend my post to read 'Afridi and certain posters are twits'

Thanks!

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by IMMY69 Sorry please amend my post to read 'Afridi and certain posters are twits' Thanks!

If you want me to certify above statement, I am willing to do this without any cost.

I am glad finally more and more people have started to open their eyes.

[Kray_jackson7]

People get offended way too easy on this site. if they is a post you dont like report it. no need to go call members twits

[miandadrules]

^^ No I'm sure you can think of far worse things to call them.

[Kray_jackson7]

I can think of a far worse thing to call you... But i decided your not worth my time so will no longer respond to your rubbish posts

[miandadrules]

You say the nicest things

[IMMY69]

Originally Posted by Kray_jackson7 People get offended way too easy on this site. if they is a post you dont like report it. no need to go call members twits

You're absolutely right!

So if I call you a twit will you now report me?

[Kray_jackson7]

Originally Posted by IMMY69 You're absolutely right! So if I call you a twit will you now report me?

naa, dont waste my time on rubbish

read the sig.

[miandadrules]

Originally Posted by IMMY69 You're absolutely right! So if I call you a twit will you now report me?

[miandadrules]

Originally Posted by Kray_jackson7 I can think of a far worse thing to call you... But i decided your not worth my time so will no longer respond to your rubbish posts

I'm going to miss your intellectual contributions to our discussions.

[Desire]

as much as i didnt like YK but i must accept you are right dr khan. he stayed calm and focused on the job as much as he could and got back in the team.

[Faisalabadimunda]

@ desire Regarding your signature Bismillah Karan. You shouldnt say Bismillah Karan.Its Bismillah Para.

[Ryankhan]

but dont forget YOUNIS quiteness got him seperated from cricket for 8-10 months so what happened to his lost time???? he just got back into the team now where as afridi, he wont lay down or quit like younis did and im with afridi, you never know with afridi winning the case inshallah, he can kick butss BUT and kick him out.

[Savak]

as much as i didnt like YK but i must accept you are right dr khan. he stayed calm and focused on the job as much as he could and got back in the team.

Why are people selectively and conveniently leaving out the fact the YK was only allowed back to the team after he finally bowed down to Ijaz Butt, bowed down to his demand that "YK must first meet him in person and tender an apology for all destructive activities before he can be considered available for selection".

Yk for 8 months was stubbornly insisting he is not going to meet Ijaz Butt, he is not going to apologize for anything. Guess what, YK finally relented and did as Ijaz Butt demanded.

He didn't get back in the team on his own terms, he got back on Ijaz Butt's terms. Ijaz Butt had ommitted YK's name from the SA series and only included him after the meeting. The very next day YK reported for training camp duty.

Bottomline YK himself wasted 8 months of his career unnecessarily when in the end all he had to do was to apologize to Ijaz Butt to get back into the team. I and I am sure others could personally care less whether YK apologized or did not apologize to get back in the team but bottomline what mattered is he got back.

I am pretty sure if this was Afridi in YK place, his haters would release their ammo against him irrespective of whether he fought against the PCB principally, in a so called clean manner YK style or his current so called dirty style. Had he like YK apologized to Ijaz Butt to get back into the team eventually, these same haters would have made so many attacks on his character, integrity "look at him striking a deal with the devil to get back in the team"

Such are our pathetic dual standards for our favorites and non favorites.

[IMMY69]

Originally Posted by Ryankhan but dont forget YOUNIS quiteness got him seperated from cricket for 8-10 months so what happened to his lost time???? he just got back into the team now where as afridi, he wont lay down or quit like younis did and im with afridi, you never know with afridi winning the case inshallah, he can kick butss BUT and kick him out.

You and so many others here are either completely missing the point or are just playing ignorant in order to continue the love for an average cricketer!

Do you really think that Afridi is on some crusade against Butt and the PCB?? his initial rant was against waqar younis and had a new coach been appointed then do you really think he would have made any stance against the PCB?

Now let's assume that Butt does lose his job, do you really think that there will be a sea of change? What all of you conveniently forget is that Butt is not the real problem here, it is the system which breeds characters like Butt that needs to be changed.
A system change is not going to happen with Afridi's influence, it's gonna happen if ICC implements it's new ruling or if someone like Imran Khan, with media influence, manage to get enough power/influence to effect change!

If Afridi is the man you're making him out to be then why didnt he stick up for YK when he needed it most? YK apologising or not apologising to Butt is absolutely irrelevent here! YK was not on a crusade to change the PCB and nor did he throw hus toys out of the pram after he himself, with help from players and PCB, dropped/lost the captaincy! Yes he went fishing, but he made himself available for the full Aussie tour and infact even played the odi series prior to any banning!

[Black Zero]

When YK started a semi-legal he should have gone all the way to High-court...HC was totally anti-ppp and it would have resolved problem swiftly.


For YK, we say, "sou pyaaz bhi khayay aur sou jootay bhi"...
no need Afridi to take cue from YK, let the court decision.