Advice to Indian bowlers on how to bowl in England

[Sir_Afridi]

[Free Hit]

and not any of intentional no balls.

indians win it here.

[Fireworks11]

Watch and learn.

[zayn]

A few of the England players are prone to left-arm spin but whether India have a quality left-arm spinner is debatable. Strauss has a weakness to left arm pace.

[Free Hit]

^i have feeling. strauss will dominate zaheer this summer.

[WiiiCKET]

Ashwin should be in the team..

[Fireworks11]

Originally Posted by WiiiCKET Ashwin should be in the team..

Harbajhan won't be dropped unless he has a terrible opening 2 Tests.

[JibranAnsari]

the chef will cook the indian bowlers this summer.

[akamaka]

what a bowling attack that was. Pure magic.

[kingusama92]

Didn't India do better than us in England?

What a cracking bowling lineup we had.

[insaftak]

what they should not do

[LethalSami]

^^^^ yet

i think indians seamers will benefit from helpful/moving/overcast conditions

[WiiiCKET]

Indian bowlers should be thankful to God , no more NOTW

[LethalSami]

^^we need a sting operation on Indian Batsmen :Raina

NOTW is no more, BUT RUpert Zionist Murdoch is still alive

[Robert]

Originally Posted by zayn Strauss has a weakness to left arm pace.

Not so as I've noticed.

[Hando]

Zaheer will be devastating in England , Just watch.
Ishant has found some form and he will also be dangerous

[chaiwala]

No thanks OP. Our bowlers would do well to not emulate fixers.

[cricketindiafan]

All we need is to bowl like we did on the 2007 tour.

Zaheer 3 tests, 18 wickets
RPS 3 tests, 12 wickets
Sreesanth 3 tests. 9 wickets
Kumble 3 tests, 14 wickets


We repeat a similar bowling performance and we would comeback with a win once again.

[AlizeeFan]

I hope that Indian bowlers don't fall into situations of 337-4 or something like Broad-Trott partnership.

[Osman]

i.e the message is pitch it up

[freelance_cricketer]

Thanks, don't think our bowlers need any advice for an England tour

[Fawad2010]

I think the Indian batting needs the advice more than the Indian bowling lineup.

Anderson + Tremlett will bring it!

[Blitz]

The England batting line up has been monstrous in the last few years.

3 innings victories in Australia!


Yet, last year, we DESTROYED THEM. Time after time.


The Indian bowling line up won't be as effective, but their batsmen will be 5x as effective. hence why they should have a good chance of winning.

[saeedhk]

Originally Posted by akamaka what a bowling attack that was. Pure magic.

exactly

[the Great Khan]

i think they should bowl full and wide..and in midpitch..helping out the english batters immensly..id also love to see harbajan not turning the balla t all and having a bowling average of 100 by the end of the end of the series..lol..so go India lets see some lollipop bowling!!

[iRfaN_LA]

That summer was a treat for anyone who loves fast/swing bowling. I am sure Indian bowlers would be watching A&A's videos to figure out English batsmen.

[Krishnan]

The indian approach will be different from the pakistan approach simply because the pakistani bowlers have the raw talent to swing away as well penetrate the batsman's defence at a good pace continuously.The indians cant do that and thats y their approach is a bit different.If anyone had seen the cricinfo article of eric simmons(the bowling coach talking about 6 indian bowlers),you could understand the way.

For example,praveen kumar has been asked to bowl continuous 2 overs only outswingers and then suddenly an inswinger,as if he uses all his variations soon like one day matches,batsman would figure him out and can tackle him as his pace his less.Similar for munaf patel.Only ishant sharma has been going all out sometimes.The main aim of indians has been to frustrate batsman by stopping the flow of runs and get them out,rather than going full throttle like the pakistani quickies.

[Cricfan4eva]

If the pitches support seamers our batting is more than capable to handle their bowling and our bowlers will be on top but if pitch is flat our bowlers will struggle a lot, maybe not zak but others will struggle. So if England are looking for home advantage, better prepare flat pitches.

[Justcrazy]

I think the pacers from both the side will enjoy the conditions, but if it is cloudy.......... Jimmy would be lethal. He is lethal when it is overcast.

[osee_bhai]

Best part of that video was the classy golden arm, umar amin haha.

Pitch it short and wide Indians

[James]

Originally Posted by Robert Not so as I've noticed.

I think Strauss is just a bit guff now

[Indiafan]

Originally Posted by the Great Khan i think they should bowl full and wide..and in midpitch..helping out the english batters immensly..id also love to see harbajan not turning the balla t all and having a bowling average of 100 by the end of the end of the series..lol..so go India lets see some lollipop bowling!!

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&sou...S606ehwQ5OXfig

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&sou...oo6O8aUub0c4CA

Indian bowlers were much more devastating than Pak bowlers. Plus we won the series

[AlizeeFan]

Originally Posted by Indiafan http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&sou...S606ehwQ5OXfig http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&sou...oo6O8aUub0c4CA Indian bowlers were much more devastating than Pak bowlers. Plus we won the series

[Dann]

Can't wait to see Zaheer Khan in action he should b real good in English conditions.. also can't wait to see the rest of the indian bowlers get hammered like school boys practising against the world 11.

[Cricfan4eva]

Indian bowlers may not be phaast bowlers, may not bowl the yorkers but yet we manage to get 20 wickets which is more important. So I guess we don't need bowling lessons from Pakistani bowlers.

[jusarrived]

Mediocre bowlers look good in such conditions . we saw how the same bowlers could not buy a wicket aginst a pathetic WI side .

[Fawad2010]

Originally Posted by jusarrived Mediocre bowlers look good in such conditions . we saw how the same bowlers could not buy a wicket aginst a pathetic WI side .

really?

[Fawad2010]

England side has changed since India's last tour,IMO it would be a mistake to expect the same results.

[Shaheerthe2nd]

Originally Posted by jusarrived Mediocre bowlers look good in such conditions . we saw how the same bowlers could not buy a wicket aginst a pathetic WI side .

Are you calling Asif and Amir mediocre bowlers?????

Unless you are referring to Gul......

[1137moiz]

Originally Posted by Cricfan4eva Indian bowlers may not be phaast bowlers, may not bowl the yorkers but yet we manage to get 20 wickets which is more important. So I guess we don't need bowling lessons from Pakistani bowlers.

Didn;t Harbhajan have like 4-5 wrong decisions his way in WI?

But I do think Zaheer and to an extent Praveen/Munaf will be dangerous

[pakistanalltheway]

how lucky are the indians they come to tour here and notw closes down

[Cricfan4eva]

Originally Posted by 1137moiz Didn;t Harbhajan have like 4-5 wrong decisions his way in WI? But I do think Zaheer and to an extent Praveen/Munaf will be dangerous

Yes he did but its not right to single out those, or why dont you mention those too that didnt go his way.

[Cricfan4eva]

Originally Posted by pakistanalltheway how lucky are the indians they come to tour here and notw closes down

lol don't worry about that, Indian players are well off already they don't need to fix to earn money.

[SG]

Originally Posted by Fawad2010 England side has changed since India's last tour,IMO it would be a mistake to expect the same results.

And Indian side hasn't since '07?

Its far more settled than that side which toured Eng in '07. For starters, Dravid isn't even a patch on Dhoni as far as captaincy is concerned.

Bowling is far better than it was in '07.

[Fawad2010]

Originally Posted by SG And Indian side hasn't since '07? Its far more settled than that side which toured Eng in '07. For starters, Dravid isn't even a patch on Dhoni as far as captaincy is concerned. Bowling is far better than it was in '07.

India has been playing mostly on flat pitches...

[Sandeep99]

Wow at those bowling performances by Asif and Amir...yes the conditions helped them but it would be unfair to take the credit away from them.....they were right on the money.....
And to talk about Indian bowling,,though it may lack the prowess and craft,,our batting more than compensates for it and our bowlers will have the luxury of defending decent enough totals courtesy of our mighty batting line-up...England here we come!

[Fireworks11]

Advice is required before the first Test.

[Cricfan4eva]

Originally Posted by Sandeep99 Wow at those bowling performances by Asif and Amir...yes the conditions helped them but it would be unfair to take the credit away from them....they were right on the money.....

Lol good one.

Stuart Broad says hi (169 vs same bowling attack)

[Wasim1]

I think they'll do ok. More interested in how the batting does. Bowling is the weakness and it should do average...India must play to their strength and batting must be great.

[Sandeep99]

@cricfan4eva....good comprehending skills mate ;)

[Fireworks11]

Sreesanth has put on weight. His fitness will be found out in the Test series.

[Rizie]

what a pity

[Obeid]

England and Australia struggled to put scores of above 300 and were only able to do so rarely in 2010 against that bowling attack. The scores would have been even lower if we had a decent fielding unit.

[tahir_dj]

Originally Posted by Cricfan4eva Indian bowlers may not be phaast bowlers, may not bowl the yorkers but yet we manage to get 20 wickets which is more important. So I guess we don't need bowling lessons from Pakistani bowlers.

well only our fielders didnt had butter fingers we wudv also managed to collect all 20 wickets

[Obeid]

Originally Posted by tahir_dj well only our fielders didnt had butter fingers we wudv also managed to collect all 20 wickets

We did take 20 wickets or were close to on most occasions. It was our poor batting display (**** poor) that cost us matches along with inept fielding. Our bowling unit did a real good job last summer. Its a shame 2 of the leaders of that attack got involved in other things.

[James]

How do you advise on 425-3? ;)

[chaiwala]

Originally Posted by Whippy How do you advise on 425-3? ;)

I would advise them to not get overconfident.

[CoolSERAZ]

is this the customary horrible performance from indians at the start of the series after which it will pick itself up???

i would settle for it. sure.

[Afridirocks]

looks like indian batting need lessons on how to bat lol

[ballabrest]

not only ur bowler u batting also need lollllllllllllll

[Dayman]

Originally Posted by Fireworks11 Watch and learn.

From players who ruined the integrity of the game?

No thanks. I'd rather lose than be like them.

[asifp]

if only are fielding and keeping was better and our batsman were not sifarishi tattoos we woukd have won that series

[Afridirocks]

Originally Posted by asifp if only are fielding and keeping was better and our batsman were not sifarishi tattoos we woukd have won that series

fielding, keeping batting toh bacha kya lol????

i agree with you though

when your captain is a fixer you cant expect much

[Assadrulz]

Originally Posted by chaiwala No thanks OP. Our bowlers would do well to not emulate fixers.

Lol..i don't think India can produce bowlers in a thousand years who have the skill of amir and asif...their match-fixing shenanigans aside they were once-in-a-generation bowlers and world cricket is poorer for their absence..

[the Great Khan]

My advice is plz bowl all this way all summer as i will be thoughroughly entertained!!

[Mobashir]

I tried to not watch it, but couldn't resist.
Thanks for hurting again!

[Fireworks11]

Originally Posted by Dayman From players who ruined the integrity of the game? No thanks. I'd rather lose than be like them.

Watch and learn the quality, artistry and guile of the bowling, that's it.

[PlanetPakistan]

Amazing video
Aamer in particular was unplayable and at the time he was possibly the 2nd best bowler in the world after Steyn(Asif being 3rd)

[Wasim_Waqar]

reminded me of just how exceptional the attack was last year. Aamir, Asif, Gul, Ajmal. Amazing.

[Fireworks11]

Originally Posted by Wasim_Waqar reminded me of just how exceptional the attack was last year. Aamir, Asif, Gul, Ajmal. Amazing.

Yes, it's so heartbreaking when you think back how delightful joy was turned in to shameful embarrassment....how emotions change in life...

[BoiWonder]

just checked the scorecard for the warmup match. Looks like they won't fare much better than us.

[Ryankhan]

awsome video package, loved it and got sad to see 2 of the most wordl class bowlers careers are finished
hope eng trash india

[JibranAnsari]

bowl full and half a foot outside off

[IAJ]

Originally Posted by jusarrived Mediocre bowlers look good in such conditions . we saw how the same bowlers could not buy a wicket aginst a pathetic WI side .

Are you talking about pakistani or indian bowlers? If Pakistani then Aamer and Asif wasn't there. Besides it wasn't the bowlers who struglled in windies, it was the batsmen, be it India, Pakistan or Windies.

[SG]

Originally Posted by Fawad2010 India has been playing mostly on flat pitches...

Conveniently shifting the goalposts.

If anything, playing on flat decks should've been proved detrimental for our trundlers but thats not the case.

[testcricketisbest]

Well let us analyze Pakistan bowling in England last summer as

First test was a failure, they let Morgan in first innings score 130 and prior knocked them out in second innings.

Second test except Ajmal none of them were good in a low scoring game.Their seamers outbowled Pakistani seamers by wide margin.

Fourth test they let a tailender hit 169 and have a three hundred run partnership so it was utter failure that to in very bowler friendly conditions.

In the three of four tests Bowling was not able to do its job so what can anyone learn from them other than not selling their souls.

[ethan hunt]

Originally Posted by testcricketisbest Well let us analyze Pakistan bowling in England last summer as First test was a failure, they let Morgan in first innings score 130 and prior knocked them out in second innings. Second test except Ajmal none of them were good in a low scoring game.Their seamers outbowled Pakistani seamers by wide margin. Fourth test they let a tailender hit 169 and have a three hundred run partnership so it was utter failure that to in very bowler friendly conditions. In the three of four tests Bowling was not able to do its job so what can anyone learn from them other than not selling their souls.

do all bharatis suffer frm selective amnesia ??? we had a test series with australia didnt we ??..... out of 6 tests only once did a team get past 400(mind u that was the innings wen the whole spot fixing episode unravelled) and that too after the bowlers had them 39 for 6 , and i wont even mention our fielding on the tour , enough with ur retarted reasoning already, there is a reason none of the indian bowlers averages in the mid 20s , heck i dont think anyone averages sub 30 , so stop analyzing the performance of pakistani bowlers and go watch videos of prasad nd mohanty bowling 65 MPH thunderbolts

[testcricketisbest]

Originally Posted by ethan hunt do all bharatis suffer frm selective amnesia ??? we had a test series with australia didnt we ??..... out of 6 tests only once did a team get past 400(mind u that was the innings wen the whole spot fixing episode unravelled) and that too after the bowlers had them 39 for 6 , and i wont even mention our fielding on the tour , enough with ur retarted reasoning already, there is a reason none of the indian bowlers averages in the mid 20s , heck i dont think anyone averages sub 30 , so stop analyzing the performance of pakistani bowlers and go watch videos of prasad nd mohanty bowling 65 MPH thunderbolts

I was talking about England series only, having 39/6 doesnt mean a thing if you dont get other team all out cheaply.Like in past Pakistan had great bowlers like Imran,Wasim, Waqar who were dangerous in every condition and surface they had the ability which I dont see in this generation of Pakistan bowlers.

By the way I dont rate Indian bowling that much they are too dependent on bowling conditions.If conditions are good any bowler who is having some talent will do very well but they are not necessarily great bowlers.

Remember Irfan pathan's hattrick game Indians had pakistan 39/6 then too we all know what happened in that match.

My analysis has been from neutral point of view, dropped catches and all that are part of game and other team's fielders don't drop catches.So you don't selective about your reasoning.

The reason why there were no big scores last summer was more due to bowling conditions and their bowlers also were very good, it is not like only pakistani bowlers were very good.

When conditions are flat there are no world beaters in Pakistani line up who can defy the conditions.This current generation does not have Imran Khan. Wasim Akram or Waqar who were great even on flattest pitches.

BTW I dont rate Indian bowling attack that much they are too dependent on conditions, if conditions are good any good bowler playing international cricket should be able to do well.

[James]

Originally Posted by testcricketisbest Well let us analyze Pakistan bowling in England last summer as First test was a failure, they let Morgan in first innings score 130 and prior knocked them out in second innings. Second test except Ajmal none of them were good in a low scoring game.Their seamers outbowled Pakistani seamers by wide margin. Fourth test they let a tailender hit 169 and have a three hundred run partnership so it was utter failure that to in very bowler friendly conditions. In the three of four tests Bowling was not able to do its job so what can anyone learn from them other than not selling their souls.

Actually not a bad overview and makes some good points.

[attock]

My Advice would be bowl short outside off stump so you get cut for 4 or bowl half volleys so you get spanked down the ground for 4 more...............

On a serious note, Zaheer will be the main threat for India. For England it Will be Anderson and Tremlet........A very good series coming up............Come on England