Serious riot in London..

[LethalSami]

Originally Posted by Tapori ^ Equinox Where?

by here....ofcourse he means PP........

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Tapori I'm following the Guardian live blog - The comments below are very lively - It was taken from one of those comments; Like I say, I do hope Muslims by and large in the UK, esp. during Ramadan, show that we are an asset to Britain in these troubling times by defending whats right. The Turks in Dalston did just that; Pics are on the web - They stood firm against the first signs of the rioters.

I was thinking earlier that I am kinda glad this has happened during Ramadan (obviously it would be better for it not to have happened) since I think that has ensured the Muslims have kinda stayed away from it and long may it remain that way

[Geordie Ahmed]

Actually I stand corrected, there are rumours that Shola Ameobi might be offered a contract extension - quite possible that rioting will start as a result of this . . . . . .

[Tapori]

^ True.

Look, we all know the type of TEPs/TEM's (Typical English Muslim) that took part in the initial rioting and some even now, but if it weren't Ramadan I could see loads more piling in to get some freebies from the chain stores.

What we can be certain of is that like the Sikhs are doing in Southall right now, Pakistani/Muslim communties would have similarly not let the minority wreak havoc in the local Muslim communities and would help anyone in trouble in their areas.

Yeah, hope it stays that way; The Bradford/Burnley/Oldham riots were for a real reason and there was not any real looting - This rioting is just something else entirely.

[Tapori]

Actually I stand corrected, there are rumours that Shola Ameobi might be offered a contract extension - quite possible that rioting will start as a result of this . . . . . .

Will Joeseph "Oxbridge" Barton be leading the rebellion?

I suspect he'll have one Eye on the Cigars...

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Tapori Will Joeseph "Oxbridge" Barton be leading the rebellion? I suspect he'll have one Eye on the Cigars...

ha ha

He has Che Guevara as his Twitter profile picture so he sees himself as a bit of a revolutionary

[Geordie Ahmed]

So what is the situation like in London now? Have things calmed down now?

Hopefully the cops are on the ball early today so things can be under control and not continue into another day

[Tapori]

lol - oh for sure, never has a man demonstrated how to spout profound political/social commentary and simultaneously show how a fine Cigar can both be smoked nonchalantly and at the same time make for a devastating weapon...

[Fireworks11]

The sound of police sirens has diminished. The damage done is insane. It'll take some time before things are back to normal again.

[Tapori]

^ Well any fires lit are still smoldering; It's really sixes and sevens because of how big London is and different places.

Most rioters have moved on as dawn breaks in the city

But I have fam in South London and they aren't going out still as it just isn't safe round some parts where they work.

Fireworks11

How safe has it been during the day where you are (round Lords?) I'm meant to be heading to central some time this week.

[Fireworks11]

^ It wasn't safe to go out on the high streets, hopefully things have calmed down a bit from yesterday though.

[Tapori]

Thanks - Yeah, getting the same from my fam there.

Hope so too. Best of luck and pray everyone is kept from harm.

[Fireworks11]

^ Yeah InshaAllah. Thanks. I guess your ends are alright yeah?

[Geordie Ahmed]

Not sure how true it is BUT read that there were 5000 police on duty during the Royal Wedding yet last night there was only 1400

[Tapori]

Yeah, so far everything in Manchester is alright.

The GMP force are better at dealing with things if they kick off tonight; Lets hope it doesn't get too bad.

GA - Probably true. If so it shows the privileged will always have better protection.

InshAllah hope lessons are learned fast.

[Runner Up]

Horrible images

A woman leaps from a burning building in Surrey Street, after flames threaten to engulf her. People stand to catch her as she jumps to safety

[Runner Up]

another one

[Fireworks11]

Unbelievable. It's like a movie scene.

[amirfanforlife]

"The awkward moment when Pakistan is safer than London"


Seriously though, I didn't think things would get this bad.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed Not sure how true it is BUT read that there were 5000 police on duty during the Royal Wedding yet last night there was only 1400

They had four months to plan the Royal Wedding operation. Here they are being caught on the hop because the trouble is flaring up in many places and it is difficult to form a coherent response.

But the Met's morning shift will be making some key arrests of the anarchists behind this badness today.

[Fawad2010]

Met Police: 13,000 police officers will be on duty in London in the next 24 hours

[Poison]

Seriously what's going on with these police? Do they not have guns or something in England? Let loose and kick the sh!t out of these idiots, the video on the last page showing the riot police backing off was shocking, surely they should have guns!?!? One warning shot and most of these kids would sh!t their pants!

[Fawad2010]

Call in the Army to enforce a curfew in troubled area.

[cricfan967]

KP shocked by Birmingham riots

The riots that spread from London to Birmingham on Monday evening caused shock in the England squad who are preparing for the third Test with India at Edgbaston. The squad are staying at a city centre hotel and Kevin Pietersen reported that the doors were locked as violence spread through Birmingham. Police arrested over 100 people in Birmingham as shops were vandalised and looted, with the scenes causing real distress in the camp. Pietersen said in a Twitter message to former newspaper editor Piers Morgan: "they have just locked our hotel in Birmingham mate... Riots just started here.. Insane!!" England bowler Tim Bresnan wrote: "Just seen the rioters in Birmingham fleeing down the main street followed by a load of police in the full get up. What's going on?" All-rounder Stuart Broad said on the social networking website: "Police vans all around Birmingham where we are right now." Spinner Graeme Swann added: "Goodnight England. Good luck to those surrounded by the carnage. Be safe." © ESPN EMEA Ltd

http://www.espn.co.uk/cricket/sport/...ml?CMP=OTC-RSS

[Fireworks11]

The idiots are looting the damn shops and the police are just watching them do it.

They need more man power, get the horses and dogs, get the guns and go counter these thugs.

[Fireworks11]

The idiots are looting the damn shops and the police are just watching them do it.

They need more man power, get the horses and dogs, bring the tanks, get the guns and go counter these thugs.

[Law]

[Namak_Halaal]

Time to call in the Army and impose a curfrew - Pakistan stylee.

That should do the trick!

[Namak_Halaal]

Originally Posted by Fireworks11 The idiots are looting the damn shops and the police are just watching them do it. They need more man power, get the horses and dogs, get the guns and go counter these thugs.

- Not enough police
- Time for UK to pull out of the EU; clearly EU laws are superseding UK laws (on human rights) and a result the police cannot act upon such animals.

[90MPH]

It's the summer holidays as well so that's why these kids are rioting all night

^^ lol at the hoodie girl saying she is getting her taxes back by stealing.

[Areesh1]

I wonder how former Iraqi information minister M.S.S. would be feeling right now, probably like this:

[Markhor]

Parliament is to be recalled.David Cameron to make a statement at 11:00

[Namak_Halaal]

These riots prove one thing - poverty breeds crime. It's no surprise that the poorest of London boroughs are fueling these riots.

Good morning austerity - welcome to the Grand Depression.

[Markhor]

England vs Netherlands international friendly and 4 Carling Cup ties abandoned.

[Fawad2010]

at that girl saying she's getting her taxes back!

I wonder if she pays any to start with!

[Markhor]

Originally Posted by irfan what social deprivation? All these fkn looters are wearing expensive branded hoodies & trainers with the latest smartphones!

Originally Posted by Warfare So true, I hate it when people say these thugs are socially deprived.

Croydon,Peckham,Hackney,Brixton are all areas with high unemployment,with black ghettos and high levels of crime so it is a deprived area.

[Markhor]

Oh finally someone with some sense.

Conservative MP and former Army Colonel Patrick Mercer says police should consider the use of water cannon and rubber bullets where necessary.

[Fawad2010]

Acting #MetPolice commissioner tells BBC there's 'no plans' for the army to get involved

BBC Twitter Feed




why? because it might ruin the image of police? too late for that!

[Markhor]

Incredible scene.

Last night Trevor Reeves,the furniture shop owner whose business has been around for 6 generations,since 1867 who had his store burnt down was almost in tears calling the BBC.

[ElRaja]

having grown up with the type of people who would involve themselves in such activity i find it impossible to believe that there is some political motivation behind the looting, its just stealing because they can.

The only good thing to come out of this is to show how much more focused the police need to be if all it takes is some facebook/twitter organisation to ransack a whole area.

agree with nh abt european laws neutering our cops too. its a sad state of affairs but not if something positive can come out of it.

[Markhor]

Water cannon ruled out by Home Secretary Theresa May.

[Namak_Halaal]

Originally Posted by Markhor Water cannon ruled out by Home Secretary Theresa May.

Blame the EU!

If I am not mistaken, Plastic bullets were cleared by Homeoffice but are never used.

Now or never!

[Markhor]

Originally Posted by Tapori I mean a lad looted a supermarket to get flowers for this girl!

True,some of the men actually had female groupies cheering them on.

[nish_mate]

Interesting what the Russians have to say, they have taken it on a totally tangent, and the paper is not a tabloid, it is pretty much a mainstream one :facepalm

"Komsomolskaya Pravda, Russia
Riots that began in London on the night of Sunday 7 August are spreading across the British capital... "There is real agitation in London's outskirts where ethnic youth groups from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan live... They lack any structure; this is just a boiling cauldron... If we compare the unrest in London with riots on Moscow's Manezhnaya Ploshchad square [in December 2010], the situation here is different, though visually they are alike. These ethnic groups in London... are shouting out that the police treat them in an extremely tough way. In Russia, the ethnic majority came out on the streets to protest against the police's inaction... In the UK, the police need a consolidated political will despite its strength. The authorities should say that 'if you want to live in England, you should work and become Englishmen or go away'... Years will pass before the UK authorities venture to take tough measures in the immigration policy. But these measures will nevertheless not resemble methods used by [Libyan leader Muammar] al-Qadhafi. So, London suburbs will keep burning," says director of the Institute of Political Studies Sergey Markov.

[ElRaja]

Originally Posted by nish_mate Interesting what the Russians have to say, they have taken it on a totally tangent, and the paper is not a tabloid, it is pretty much a mainstream one :facepalm "Komsomolskaya Pravda, Russia Riots that began in London on the night of Sunday 7 August are spreading across the British capital... "There is real agitation in London's outskirts where ethnic youth groups from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan live... They lack any structure; this is just a boiling cauldron... If we compare the unrest in London with riots on Moscow's Manezhnaya Ploshchad square [in December 2010], the situation here is different, though visually they are alike. These ethnic groups in London... are shouting out that the police treat them in an extremely tough way. In Russia, the ethnic majority came out on the streets to protest against the police's inaction... In the UK, the police need a consolidated political will despite its strength. The authorities should say that 'if you want to live in England, you should work and become Englishmen or go away'... Years will pass before the UK authorities venture to take tough measures in the immigration policy. But these measures will nevertheless not resemble methods used by [Libyan leader Muammar] al-Qadhafi. So, London suburbs will keep burning," says director of the Institute of Political Studies Sergey Markov.

lols

[Markhor]

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal Blame the EU! If I am not mistaken, Plastic bullets were cleared by Homeoffice but are never used. Now or never!

We don't have water cannons over here but police in Northern Ireland do and have used them.

[Pakhtoon_Rules]

And the riots have reached Leeds as well now.

Chappel Town was their main target last night.

[nish_mate]

Originally Posted by Pakhtoon_Rules And the riots have reached Leeds as well now. Chappel Town was their main target last night.

Huh, why Chappel Town of all places-it is an Asian place isnt it??

[Pakhtoon_Rules]

Originally Posted by nish_mate Huh, why Chappel Town of all places-it is an Asian place isnt it??

Its easy to loot

[nish_mate]

Originally Posted by Pakhtoon_Rules Its easy to loot

But what's there to loot??

They should be heading to downtown central Leeds thats where the stores are...

[Foozee]

buncha animalss

[Markhor]

Rob, London writes: You create a society where vastly overpaid footballers and models can flaunt their wealth and behave in any manner they see fit, and are still treated as near gods by the media. You lead our youth to expect instant fame and wealth, and instead they get unemployment, poverty, and no future. And now you act surprised when they revolt.

Indeed,the consumer society is consuming itself now.

The gap between the rich and the poor ; the ones who go to good schools and others to poorer schools ; the ones who get a good level of employment and those who don't - the divide is sickening.

[Markhor]

BBC Monitoring A Libyan TV presenter who claims he can talk to spirits and mobilize them in support of Colonel Gaddafi, says Libya was "proud" of the rioters in England. Speaking in English on state-run Al-Jamahiriyah TV, Yusuf Shakir said people in Libya would hold a demonstration to show their solidarity. "We support you black power in Tottenham," he said.

[James]

Originally Posted by nish_mate Huh, why Chappel Town of all places-it is an Asian place isnt it??

Immigrants from Caribbean gathered there in the 50s and 60s.

[Shayan]

Originally Posted by Pakhtoon_Rules And the riots have reached Leeds as well now. Chappel Town was their main target last night.

Nothing major happened in Leeds. I heard there was a small riot in chapeltown, some bins and a car set on fire. Don' think it lasted long.

[Markhor]

Bristol and Nottingham affected too.

Here is Hackney

[Mian Hassan]

I am fully against all of this...

but to be fullllyyy honest..... this was gonna happen..... this is what the british & Nato have done in Iraq and Afghanistan....


the public should also experience what the poor people of those countries have been feeling for 10 years...

they are already worried after 3 days????

Its all bad... but i think this should have happend to open the eyes of the public.

I hope nobody dies but....

[Markhor]

Ken Livingstone has been a disgrace,scoring cheap political points.

[Fawad2010]

Small police station was burned last night in Birmingham, UK

Twitter

[carbon11]

this a sign of collapse of capitalism and western society, just like rome collapsed

the west's honeymoon period is over, with massive amounts of debt and austerity for the future cutting benefits etc the dear old ***** are gonna taste how people live in third world countries.
the facts are brutal their young generation is gonna suffer massive poverty, hunger and lack of jobs , education is impossible because of the fees so there will be virtually zero opputunities to dig yourself out of a hole who is gonna get themselves in 50000+ debt.
also add to that most of these chav ***** and enslaved western ***** are lazy and don't do manual work like asians, africans, east europeans are prepared to do or have families who help each other out support each other financially set up small businesses look after the local community and take pride in it like pakistanis and muslims do.

there was a report about energy crisis in the uk in future that there could be load shedding in the uk in future, energy bills are gonna shoot up the roof , people won't be even to afford to pay energy bills.

my message to pakistanis abroad wannabe freshies forget the dreams of walayat.

walayat is fast becoming a latrine your better off living in pakistan and building your own country.

i'm actually worried that something like bosnia is on the cards here in the uk especially with the rise of the edl and other right wing nutters fuelled by the likes of the sun and daily mail whom i'm sure will refuel of this rioting.

i think it is imperative for muslims and pakistanis here in the uk to be untied vigilant and be prepared to protect your women, property and honour when the time comes. because if the crap hits the fan bigtime we muslims will probably get singled out the most and get the worst of the backlash.

[Shayan]

Originally Posted by Mian Hassan I am fully against all of this... but to be fullllyyy honest..... this was gonna happen..... this is what the british & Nato have done in Iraq and Afghanistan.... the public should also experience what the poor people of those countries have been feeling for 10 years... they are already worried after 3 days???? Its all bad... but i think this should have happend to open the eyes of the public. I hope nobody dies but....

Open the eyes of the public to what exactly?

[Markhor]

Guess who is trying to score cheap political points ?

[Mian Hassan]

Originally Posted by Shayan Open the eyes of the public to what exactly?

to what their army have done to iraq and afghanistan in the last 10 years.

and how it feels to know that your living and house are burned and of living in fear

[James]

Been keeping an eye on Griffin's Twitter. The bloke is a shameless bigot, and worst of all he knows what he's doing and knows his audience.

[Shayan]

Originally Posted by Mian Hassan to what their army have done to iraq and afghanistan in the last 10 years. and how it feels to know that your living and house are burned and of living in fear

The problem with what you're saying here is that this rioting has NOTHING to do with what "their army have done to Iraq and Afghanistan".

How can you possibly say that the British public should have their lives and houses burned down because of the decisions the army/government have made.

[Markhor]

Cheap jibes towards Muslims/Blacks.Scumbag.

[ElRaja]

Originally Posted by carbon11 this a sign of collapse of capitalism and western society, just like rome collapsed the west's honeymoon period is over, with massive amounts of debt and austerity for the future cutting benefits etc the dear old ***** are gonna taste how people live in third world countries. the facts are brutal their young generation is gonna suffer massive poverty, hunger and lack of jobs , education is impossible because of the fees so there will be virtually zero opputunities to dig yourself out of a hole who is gonna get themselves in 50000+ debt. also add to that most of these chav ***** and enslaved western ***** are lazy and don't do manual work like asians, africans, east europeans are prepared to do or have families who help each other out support each other financially set up small businesses look after the local community and take pride in it like pakistanis and muslims do. there was a report about energy crisis in the uk in future that there could be load shedding in the uk in future, energy bills are gonna shoot up the roof , people won't be even to afford to pay energy bills. my message to pakistanis abroad wannabe freshies forget the dreams of walayat. walayat is fast becoming a latrine your better off living in pakistan and building your own country. i'm actually worried that something like bosnia is on the cards here in the uk especially with the rise of the edl and other right wing nutters fuelled by the likes of the sun and daily mail whom i'm sure will refuel of this rioting. i think it is imperative for muslims and pakistanis here in the uk to be untied vigilant and be prepared to protect your women, property and honour when the time comes. because if the crap hits the fan bigtime we muslims will probably get singled out the most and get the worst of the backlash.

that is perhaps the most over the top assessment of the riots i have come across. you should work for fox news or something man

[Markhor]

Shocking that this guy is getting more followers on Twitter.

[ace4rmspace]

Originally Posted by Mian Hassan to what their army have done to iraq and afghanistan in the last 10 years. and how it feels to know that your living and house are burned and of living in fear

Exactly!! Get to know what it feels like to have your phone shops and electronics stores robbed and your local tesco's looted. The community in Croydon is now closer to the Afghans in Kandhar, and the Brummies are now one with the Baghdadi's.

Ignorance!

[carbon11]

Originally Posted by ElRaja that is perhaps the most over the top assessment of the riots i have come across. you should work for fox news or something man

over the top

ok tell me where i'm wrong on austerity, benefit cuts, rich and poor gap increasing

spiralling debt

uk economy shrinking and in the dumps

energy bills gonna shoot up, energy security in doubt for britain in future


u do know the people rioting are blacks and white chavs who hate pakistanis and jealous of our success our property, business, nice cars, united large strong families.

tell me where i'm wrong that these people have no future, i.e no jobs, cuts to benefits = poverty , education fees making it nigh on possible to get education.


rise of edl and right wing nutters just look at nick griffin

and media extremely anti pakistani and anti muslim called the sun and daily mail.

[Mian Hassan]

Originally Posted by Shayan The problem with what you're saying here is that this rioting has NOTHING to do with what "their army have done to Iraq and Afghanistan". How can you possibly say that the British public should have their lives and houses burned down because of the decisions the army/government have made.

I know what you mean but... the government is elected by them

[Markhor]

Social media has not helped and has added to hysteria and hype - so more excitable youths go out and join in on the looting.

[Shayan]

Originally Posted by carbon11 over the top ok tell me where i'm wrong on austerity, benefit cuts, rich and poor gap increasing spiralling debt uk economy shrinking and in the dumps energy bills gonna shoot up, energy security in doubt for britain in future u do know the people rioting are blacks and white chavs who hate pakistanis and jealous of our success our property, business, nice cars, united large strong families. tell me where i'm wrong that these people have no future, i.e no jobs, cuts to benefits = poverty , education fees making it nigh on possible to get education. rise of edl and right wing nutters just look at nick griffin and media extremely anti pakistani and anti muslim called the sun and daily mail.

I think that these chavs, the EDL, Nick Griffin etc are very much in the minority. The government and the rest of the country are not going to allow them to do this, which is why I also feel you are overreacting somewhat.

I agree that the state of the economy is poor, but it will not lead to a situation in which foreigners need to fear for their well-being.

[Markhor]

PM chairing COBRA meeting.

[Namak_Halaal]

Originally Posted by Shayan I think that these chavs, the EDL, Nick Griffin etc are very much in the minority..

Much like terrorists, and look at the state of the world due to a small bunch of idiots.

Miniorites are effective.

[Shayan]

Originally Posted by Mian Hassan I know what you mean but... the government is elected by them

Again, the governments decisions re Iraq and Afghanistan have NOTHING to do with these riots, hence your point about the public electing this government is redundant.

So if shops/homes were burnt down in Pakistan tmrw, you'd be ok with it because the public elected a government that makes bad decisions?

[Shayan]

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal Much like terrorists, and look at the state of the world due to a small bunch of idiots. Miniorites are effective.

They are certainly not as effective as they want to be, and that's because of the manner in which they express their desire for change.

[Markhor]

In Clapham, youths are reported to have raided a Debenhams store and a number of shops in Lavender Hill, while some broke into a fancy dress store near Clapham Junction, stealing masks to conceal their identities.

These masked cowards deserve to be taught a lesson,a lot of them are anarchist lunatics.

Credit to London,a major clean up is underway with ordinary Londoners are getting involved.

[Namak_Halaal]

Originally Posted by Shayan They are certainly not as effective as they want to be.

The point is, a small number of people can make a massive difference.

[IAJ]

I am not updated on this at all; The guy who was killed by police, was he a foreigner?

All of the sudden the european countries are not safe anymore. First the attacker here in Norway and now riots in UK.