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Old 10th December 2011, 23:28
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Imran Nazir expected to be back

Express News is saying that Imran Nazir is expected to be back for One Days and T20s against England. It is in today's newspaper. It would be a travesty If he is selected in place of more deserving candidates such as Afaq Raheem, Ahmed Shehzad and Nasir Jamshed.
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Old 10th December 2011, 23:30
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Did I miss the news, his father in law is a new selector or he is related to Dr. Firdus Aawan?
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Old 10th December 2011, 23:32
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What? On what basis?
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Old 10th December 2011, 23:36
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I wouldn't mind him in the team because if he gets going pakistan will post big scores. If he doesn't they can select someone else
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Old 10th December 2011, 23:37
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Lol... Heard it before.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...d.php?t=140200

Selecting him is going to be a huge step back:

- He is going to be all nervous playing slow, against his natural game and most likely not perform up to his potential and get out for a low score after wasting deliveries. All this because it will be his comeback and pressure will be on him to secure his place
- Openers are doing pretty okay in ODI's. Farhat is very much up and down, but might as well give him a go vs. The English...
- Has not exactly set the domestic scene in Pakistan on fire this season, although 4 day cricket is not his strongest side.
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Old 10th December 2011, 23:42
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Old 10th December 2011, 23:46
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if he is in the reckoning for the t20 world cup than its only fair that he gets to play the three match t- 20 series vs england , for the one dayers i would prefer ahmed shehzad ..
hopefully we have seen the last of farhat in a pakistan shirt ..
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Old 10th December 2011, 23:47
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Even PCB aren't that stupid.

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Old 10th December 2011, 23:50
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We need an opener who can score runs at much better S/R than Hafeez/Farhat in ODIs and T20.... be it Imran Nazir, Shahzaib Hassan, Ahmed Shehzad or Owais Zia.

I'll take any of the four ahead of Farhat.
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Old 10th December 2011, 23:52
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Nazir is way better than Farhat! Way way better! He is even better than Hafeez if he occupies the crease! So Hafeez and Nazir is gonna be a good opening pair if it happens!
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Old 10th December 2011, 23:54
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Anyone rather then farhat is probably the consensus but nazir will be dropped again for the same reasons. Unlike afridi he doesn't bowl.
Long term i would go with yk and azhar ali at no 3.
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Old 11th December 2011, 00:00
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Nazir is way better than Farhat! Way way better! He is even better than Hafeez if he occupies the crease! So Hafeez and Nazir is gonna be a good opening pair if it happens!
Nazir is incapable of occupying the crease.
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Old 11th December 2011, 00:22
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Imran Nazir plays for ZTBL, right?

Wasn't Zaka Ashraf also a part of ZTBL?
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Old 11th December 2011, 00:23
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with Mr Ashraf being ZTBL ex-boss, this move would not be surprising. Razzaq and Khalil's comeback was part and parcel due to Zaka Ashraf taking over.
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Old 11th December 2011, 00:26
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We need an opener who can score runs at much better S/R than Hafeez/Farhat in ODIs and T20.... be it Imran Nazir, Shahzaib Hassan, Ahmed Shehzad or Owais Zia.

I'll take any of the four ahead of Farhat.
ONLY YOU would name Shahzeb Hassan ahead of Sharjeel Khan....I am not surprised.

I Guess Shahzeb does have a cricinfo profile and thus appears in StstusGuru regardless of his impressive displays at international level...and thats ALL THAT YOU CAN notice.
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Old 11th December 2011, 00:27
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Imran Nazir plays for ZTBL, right?

Wasn't Zaka Ashraf also a part of ZTBL?
goooooooooooooooooooood catch Sir!!!

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Old 11th December 2011, 00:31
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Old 11th December 2011, 00:35
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Imran Nazir plays for ZTBL, right?

Wasn't Zaka Ashraf also a part of ZTBL?

Discussed at a great length;
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...d.php?t=140200


Khalil also plays for ZTBL and part of the team right now.
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Old 11th December 2011, 00:38
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We could use an aggressive opener for the T20 WC but I'd rather see Shehzad back in the team.
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Old 11th December 2011, 00:39
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Would be a travesty if he makes it into the ODI team.

Even for the T20 squad, he's not the best option. There are other openers in domestic cricket that are aggressive and are in form.
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Old 11th December 2011, 00:54
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We need to put together a squad for World T20 2012. Give him a chance in the upcoming 3 T20 match series vs England. Flat pitches will help him score big.

But keep him out of ODI's.
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Old 11th December 2011, 01:01
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We could use an aggressive opener for the T20 WC but I'd rather see Shehzad back in the team.
So you also want Shehzad ahead of Sharjeel because of Cricinfo profile and Statsguru.... or there is some other reason?
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Old 11th December 2011, 01:05
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So you also want Shehzad ahead of Sharjeel because of Cricinfo profile and Statsguru.... or there is some other reason?
Has nothing to do with Cricinfo or Stats Guru. I've seen Ahmed Shehzad bat against quality bowlers. he can hold his own. I've seen Sharjeel in domestic matches and he has no off-side game. I could be wrong.
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Old 11th December 2011, 01:39
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Old 11th December 2011, 01:56
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So you also want Shehzad ahead of Sharjeel because of Cricinfo profile and Statsguru.... or there is some other reason?
haha good reply! only shows how frustrated these guys get when you back up your arguments with solid stats. btw I totally agree with you on Ahmed Shehzad! Keep up the good work bro!
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Old 11th December 2011, 02:12
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Nazir working his ZTBL connections.
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Old 11th December 2011, 02:19
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haha good reply! only shows how frustrated these guys get when you back up your arguments with solid stats. btw I totally agree with you on Ahmed Shehzad! Keep up the good work bro!
kids you know... some time they do get desperate for attention...even if it is negative!


I mean, our team is doing great. Now is the time, we should look at our weaknesses and try to improve. As I showed in post in #9 that the S/R of our openers is only above 4 minnow teams.

Now see how they individually rank;
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Old 11th December 2011, 02:24
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In this era of cricket, with all the power play nonsense, a good opener should have a s/r of around 85 with an average of around 35.

Hafeez has the potential to strike the ball at a higher rate but he goes into his shell far too often. I say we should give the likes of Shehzad and Owais a chance. Shahzaib, I'm not too sure about.
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Old 11th December 2011, 02:44
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Nazir is way better than Farhat! Way way better! He is even better than Hafeez if he occupies the crease! So Hafeez and Nazir is gonna be a good opening pair if it happens!
Well, in that sence even Tamim Iqbal is a great player if he occupies the crease. So is Tatenda Taibu, Charles Coventry and Mohammad Sami...

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Imran Nazir plays for ZTBL, right?

Wasn't Zaka Ashraf also a part of ZTBL?
Yes, but Imran Nazir did not get selected for the Bangladesh tour, so highly unlikely he is going to get selected for the England series.
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Old 11th December 2011, 02:45
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In this era of cricket, with all the power play nonsense, a good opener should have a s/r of around 85 with an average of around 35.

Hafeez has the potential to strike the ball at a higher rate but he goes into his shell far too often. I say we should give the likes of Shehzad and Owais a chance. Shahzaib, I'm not too sure about.
I totally agree.... anybody who can hit the ball hard (4 or 6) and stay at the wicket ....like Sehwag, Watson etc.

I would still give Imran one last chance and then if he does not correct himself, then Shahzad.
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Old 11th December 2011, 02:47
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Its clear to see Zaka is favouring players from ZTBL first it was Khalil who get selected now Imran Nazir might be picked even though he has done nothing of note in domestic cricket

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Old 11th December 2011, 03:02
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I prefer Nazir over damaad
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Old 11th December 2011, 03:05
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on what basis..

in his last 6 innings in domestic cricket 34 was his highest score
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Old 11th December 2011, 03:16
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Shahzaib and Nazir aren't batsmen. They are sloggers. Hong Kong sixes is where they belong. Or rather Shenzhen sixes.
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Old 11th December 2011, 03:37
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this is the best news i have heard in a long time

surely if malik is still in the team after these scores 2 14 2 0 17 0 11 2* 2


then nazir deserves the same amount of games

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Old 11th December 2011, 03:49
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I'd take Nazir over Ahmed Shahzad. That guy sucks. I'd also take Nazir over Farhat.

However, not sure what happened to Jamshed.
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Old 11th December 2011, 03:49
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dont care who comes only care that Farhat should b out !
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Old 11th December 2011, 04:00
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Imrran nazir recently just meant zaka ashraf weeks ago.

If he gets selected then this new pcb chairman will have a bad image here.

Nazir is one of the worst players we have in pak. Players like afaq raheem are being ignored

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Old 11th December 2011, 04:07
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so...


Malik back (politics)
Khalil back (politics)
Nazir back (politics)

guess we know what to expect from the new chairman.
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Old 11th December 2011, 04:14
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I'd take Nazir over Ahmed Shahzad. That guy sucks. I'd also take Nazir over Farhat.

However, not sure what happened to Jamshed.

Lol, sucks just from a handful of matches?

In the same amount of matches Ab De Villiers sucked even more...
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Old 11th December 2011, 04:36
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Only for T20s. If he performs well consistently in T20s, he should be considered for ODIs.
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Old 11th December 2011, 04:42
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Its a regressive move. So many chances given to him already, Others also deserve a chance. I know he can take the bowlers to cleaners, but he averages just over 20 in so many ODI as an opener. He needs to be more consistent really to hurt the opposition. A quick 25 - 30 is good for 20 20 , but for a 50 over game ...... he needs 60 - 70 .
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Wow..........will be good to see him back..........although he is,nt doing any good at domestic level.
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Old 11th December 2011, 04:51
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Hey 'awsome PP team': Can we have a poll here...Should Imran Nazir be allowed back in the team?
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Old 11th December 2011, 04:58
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Old 11th December 2011, 05:24
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Travesty? Imran Farhat has been playing for us forever but it would be a travesty if Imran Nazir plays? Even Sambit "Travesty" Bal must be like
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Old 11th December 2011, 05:50
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Old 11th December 2011, 06:19
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Imran Nazir plays for ZTBL, right?

Wasn't Zaka Ashraf also a part of ZTBL?
Pakistani "meritocratic" system at its best..... All ZTBL players will have first dibs on selection now?
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Old 11th December 2011, 06:25
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Old 11th December 2011, 06:51
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Old 11th December 2011, 06:57
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Old 11th December 2011, 07:40
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If it means Farhat gets the boot...bring him onnn! :iamlegend
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Old 11th December 2011, 08:25
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Definitely a better option than Imran Farhat.
I always liked his shots and timing of those off-side drives mostly going in gaps and earning him runs.
If Farhat and Malik can play because of parchis, why not him getting a chance. Its his luck that Zaka Ashraf got PCB chairmanship.
He is a matured cricketer now, i have a feeling he will do better if got selected.

He did well in previous List A tournament scoring 227 (29,33,114,51) avg 56.75 @ 139 SR
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Old 11th December 2011, 08:36
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Though I despise the batting style of Shahzaib hasan but in the three ODIs he played , he scored a fifty and a score of 39. I mean , he did not deserve to be dropped on his one day performances. It is the t20 cricket where he actually failed. I would give shazaib a chance until he failed consistently in one day cricket. Players with indifferent techniques have survived in cricket, why can't not shahzaib? Plus he is having a pretty good season averaging around 50.
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Old 11th December 2011, 09:03
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Please tell me it's a joke. Imran Nazir is a walking wicket with Prince of Persiaesque hair, nothing more. Let's stick to the guys we have or groom some new talent.
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Old 11th December 2011, 10:48
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Its a tough choice Imran Farhat or Imran Nazir?
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Old 11th December 2011, 10:54
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Old 11th December 2011, 11:08
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Old 11th December 2011, 11:41
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Honestly, how the hell did this guy made it to the team in the first place? Avg of 32 in list A

Another ********.
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Old 11th December 2011, 11:43
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If this is true then im doing cartwheels. Please be true. Please be true. This would be the best bit of news for 2 years

Need some good news after Amir Khans horror show against Peterson last night
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Old 11th December 2011, 11:53
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Express News is saying that Imran Nazir is expected to be back for One Days and T20s against England. It is in today's newspaper. It would be a travesty If he is selected in place of more deserving candidates such as Afaq Raheem, Ahmed Shehzad and Nasir Jamshed.
I hope this news is correct. Better not be masala news again. Dont want my hopes to be shattered again.
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Honestly, how the hell did this guy made it to the team in the first place? Avg of 32 in list A

Another ********.
better this sifarishe who is better fielder batsmen then damad..
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Old 11th December 2011, 11:57
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don't think it is going to be true.

he was part of a very controversial interview with a morning show where the host just looked to bash afridi all the way through.

if he gets back iin good luck.
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maliks tanvirs farhats should b thrown as soon as possible
give nazir a chance he will also fail ... need a better opener shafiq/awais or afaq
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Sharjeel Khan should be selected instead. The guy has performed both in domestic and Pakistan A. What else he needs to do to get selected?
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Old 11th December 2011, 12:26
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Many Ppl love imran nazir coz he hits sixes
have to argue with these stupid ppl on Facebook

Ztbl player according to that basis u r selecting players and then in interviews saying players will b selected
on merit ... ohh u culprit ZAKA
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Sharjeel Khan should be selected instead. The guy has performed both in domestic and Pakistan A. What else he needs to do to get selected?
Yea why not sharjeel/shafiq/awais as opener is better

rather then going for Nazir farhat
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To be ignoring Shehzad and making way for Farhat and Nazir is comical.

To the opposing bowlers, here is a firm tipster. Bowl straight at the guy for 4 deliveries, and you will definitely get his wicket.
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He wont be worse than Moon Mirza or Damad sahab......if they can get a fair amount of games with hardly a great performance, then it is just and fair enought to give imran nazir a try in their place too.

If he gets going pak will do well......its worth taking the gamble and playing nazir when u r certain malik is totally outta form
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Old 11th December 2011, 13:03
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Imran Nazir after 69 Innings vs Major Teams Averaged a measly 20 with S/R of 75

Even Afridi will be a better option than him -.-
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Honestly, how the hell did this guy made it to the team in the first place? Avg of 32 in list A

Another ********.
Summat called "raw talent". That's why Nazir was selected at a young age, he's quite clearly one of the most talented batsmen in Pakistan.

That said the likes of Afaq, Sharjeel, Zia deserve a go--Nazir has wasted too many chances. But he's not a sifarishi, that term is thrown around too casually here
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Summat called "raw talent". That's why Nazir was selected at a young age, he's quite clearly one of the most talented batsmen in Pakistan.

That said the likes of Afaq, Sharjeel, Zia deserve a go--Nazir has wasted too many chances. But he's not a sifarishi, that term is thrown around too casually here
If Nazir is talented, then why does he have such a low avg in first class cricket and list A ?
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Cos he wastd his talent. But he didn't always have an average of 32

Also I feel that Raheem, Zia, Sharjeel, Nasir Jamshed, and Ahmed Shehzad are better

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Summat called "raw talent". That's why Nazir was selected at a young age, he's quite clearly one of the most talented batsmen in Pakistan.

That said the likes of Afaq, Sharjeel, Zia deserve a go--Nazir has wasted too many chances. But he's not a sifarishi, that term is thrown around too casually here
He will always remain a 'Raw' talent. He was given chances after chances but sadly could'nt do it. He does'nt deserve to be in the team.

Even his domestic records does'nt impress. Time to move on.
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Old 11th December 2011, 14:25
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Cos he wastd his talent. But he didn't always have an average of 32

Also I feel that Raheem, Zia, Sharjeel, Nasir Jamshed, and Ahmed Shehzad are better
Zia is only a good T20 player. He hasn't been any good in first class cricket this season.

Shajeel and Raheem are the only good openers we have.

Ahmed Shezad's attitude problem is keeping him out of the team, and i hope that serves him right! He deserves to stay. This guy even got banned twice in first class aswell
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He will always remain a 'Raw' talent. He was given chances after chances but sadly could'nt do it. He does'nt deserve to be in the team.

Even his domestic records does'nt impress. Time to move on.
I agree, but I was pointing to shahrukh619 that Nazir wasn't a ******** when he started in 1999
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Zia is only a good T20 player. He hasn't been any good in first class cricket this season.

Shajeel and Raheem are the only good openers we have.

Ahmed Shezad's attitude problem is keeping him out of the team, and i hope that serves him right! He deserves to stay. This guy even got banned twice in first class aswell
Yep...both Raheem and Sharjeel are class imho.

Raheem is a steady operator with a knack of consistency and conversion to big scores, while Sharjeel is an explosive batsman who can score big scores as well.

I also feel Nasir Jamshed is a good choice

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One of friend who know new PCB chairman said they first day he was selected that Imran Nazir his favorite player and he will be back in the team. And new chairman does not like Afridi !!!
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