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Old 24th December 2011, 07:26
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"Don't think there is a role for a coach in cricket" Javed Miandad

Pakistan's former captain Javed Miandad does not believe there is any role for a coach in cricket but has insisted that a "planner" is needed to be associated with teams.

"I don't think there is a role for a coach in cricket but you can say a team needs a planner. Someone who can plan out strategies for each match and provide feedback to the players and motivate them," Miandad said.

Miandad, who himself remained coach of the national team thrice, said he didn't believe that specialist coaches for every department of the game was the solution.

"I believe that in cricket it is eventually up to the player who he performs or delivers. No matter how much you coach or advice a player but once he is out there in the middle it is entirely up to him how he responds and performs," he said.

Miandad said if players required any coaching after graduating into the Pakistan team, they didn't deserve to be playing international cricket at all.

"At this level what can you coach a player. But yes if you have a planner he can define a clear role for players and for every match," he said.

Miandad, who played 124 Tests for Pakistan over a span of nearly 21 years, said cricket was not like football or hockey.

"There is a role for a coach in these sports because he has total authority and say in selection of teams. But in cricket the final authority at the end of the day lies with the captain and he has to extract the best out of his players."

The former Test great pointed out that only those players became successful who individually worked hard on their game and learnt with each passing day and match.

Miandad also took a pot shot at the officials in the Cricket Board insisting that cricket in Pakistan was because of the players and not because of officials who had no experience of running cricket affairs.

"The new Chairman, Zaka Ashraf appears to be taking the right decisions and his reliance on former players is a good sign rather than on officials with no experience of cricket," he said.

Miandad, who so far has largely been ignored by the new Chairman, said he was brought into the Board by its chief patron President Asif Zardari and he was ready to serve in any capacity the Chairman felt was best for him.

The former Test captain also supported the concept of having day and night first class matches with a pink cricket ball insisting this was a viable solution to once again popularizing Test cricket in countries like Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh where crowds had thinned out for tests and youngsters were also more inclined towards Twenty20 cricket.

"I think by experimenting with day and night first class matches you can recreate interest of youngsters in the longer version of the game which remains the real challenge for any cricketer even today," he added. http://www.cricblitz.net/2011/12/don...medium=twitter
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Old 24th December 2011, 07:33
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if he dont think coach is useful then why did he accepted coach's job in pak team many times. what can a coach do except planning? he cant go and play himself.
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Old 24th December 2011, 07:34
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Here comes the fear of not seeing Faisal Iqbal in green color if we would have Dav Whatmore selected as a chief coach, who want to get the power to selecting players with his own choice.

Next we will see Fidous Aashiq Awan and Mr. Ilyas making the similar statements.
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Old 24th December 2011, 07:34
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"I don't think there is a role for a coach in cricket but you can say a team needs a planner. Someone who can plan out strategies for each match and provide feedback to the players and motivate them," Miandad said.
Isn't that essentially what a coach does?

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Old 24th December 2011, 07:37
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All who played under the leadership of Imran would say that as he was a man of such authority with a say in every matter. But these days we do need a coach to plan out things and provide technical help as well.
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2 dafa karne ke baad Javed bhai ko samajh aayi hai.
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Old 24th December 2011, 07:42
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2 dafa karne ke baad Javed bhai ko samajh aayi hai.
You said it all.
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Old 24th December 2011, 07:46
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Its like saying "We don't need an all-rounder just someone who can bat and bowl and field"
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'Planning' is what most coaches do these days. For eveything else, they have assistants.
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Old 24th December 2011, 07:49
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2 dafa karne ke baad Javed bhai ko samajh aayi hai.
If you would give him 3rd time ( with full powers) bhai still wont say no.
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'Planning' is what most coaches do these days. For eveything else, they have assistants.
nooo, for everything else there's....
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Old 24th December 2011, 07:50
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If you would give him 3rd time ( with full powers) bhai still wont say no.
haha indeed, absolutely correct.

but working under Waqar unki shaan ke khilaaf tha.
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Old 24th December 2011, 07:57
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He is a great batsman I respect that, but other than that he makes no sense at all.
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Old 24th December 2011, 08:11
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haha Javed bhai is legend ... I believe him, he is speaking from experience.
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Old 24th December 2011, 08:11
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2 dafa karne ke baad Javed bhai ko samajh aayi hai.
3 times in fact
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Old 24th December 2011, 08:20
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ah yes I had a feeling it was 3, read thrice as twice.
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Old 24th December 2011, 23:21
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Don't quite understand these ridiculous statements. Yousaf and Younis, Pakistan's leading batsmen for the last ten years both walked into the team with glaring deficiencies in their techniques. Both benefitted immensely from the tenure of Bob Woolmer, especially Yousaf who learned how to better handle short bowling and stopped playing across his front pad. It is an absolute myth that players who need coaching should not be in the team. In a system like Pakistan, where we have no school level coaching and players are getting picked from the streets, it is imperative that once they get into the team and their deficiencies keep getting found out, there is a coach who can help them tinker their game to manage their weaknesses.
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