Umar Gul's Batting Woes in Test Cricket

[Saj]

Gul has failed to reach double figures in 22 of his last 35 test innings.

Time for a good knock tomorrow Gully.

[Anwar_194]

GUl should come in and play attacking cricket...He is much better in attacking then defensive.

[dilojaanpakistan]

Originally Posted by Anwar_194 GUl should come in and play attacking cricket...He is much better in attacking then defensive.

agree and that is where he will give us those usful 20-25 runs ...if he go defensive, then i dont expect much from him but either way i hope he score some runs tomorrow and we get past 300 inshaallah..

[Amjid Javed]

Would love to see him cowlash a quick 25-30 tomorrow we will need it!

[Acim]

InshaAllah

[cricketpassion]

If he can get us 30 -35 runs tomorrow and then quick 3 wickets , that will make Pakistan day

[KingKhanWC]

When he scored 65 v England in 2010 many fans thought Gul had come of age with his batting but it doesn't seem to be the case. I think he should try and attack more, his defensive play is rather poor.

[zaid65]

Forget about batting, his bowling has been pathetic in all level.

Despite getting 4 wickets in 2nd inning in the first test ( mainly lucky throwaway wickets), his overall stats of only 4 wickets in the test as main strike fast bowler is not justifiable.

[cricmylife]

Originally Posted by KingKhanWC When he scored 65 v England in 2010 many fans thought Gul had come of age with his batting but it doesn't seem to be the case. I think he should try and attack more, his defensive play is rather poor.

wanted to say the same...+1

[Amjid Javed]

I think gul needs to work on his batting as he has ability to be a good lower order batsmen. just needs to give himself time to get in and then play some shots and then runs will come.

[Hash]

All our tail are basically number 11s.

I've been told Abdur Rehman knows how to bat and I see he has a test 50 to his name but I have never, personally, seen any evidence of this.

Definitely something for the new coach to work on. If the tail can get us an extra 30-40 runs it could be the difference between winning and losing a test.

Gul hasn't been delivering recently...as zaid65 said even in the last test, 4 wickets over two innings is not enough for a strike bowler and his batting has been abysmal. Even 15 would be a bonus.

[PTI tsunami]

Originally Posted by Hash All our tail are basically number 11s. I've been told Abdur Rehman knows how to bat and I see he has a test 50 to his name but I have never, personally, seen any evidence of this. Definitely something for the new coach to work on. If the tail can get us an extra 30-40 runs it could be the difference between winning and losing a test. Gul hasn't been delivering recently...as zaid65 said even in the last test, 4 wickets over two innings is not enough for a strike bowler and his batting has been abysmal. Even 15 would be a bonus.

Our last two wkts put on 50 last match so I don't know what u on about

[Sledger]

Once known as Gulchrist and Vivian Gul, he is one of the best timers of a cricket ball in world cricket. Can't keep class bats like this down for too long. I hope he'll come back with a bang.

[VolcanicAsh]

Take 5 English wickets tomorrow in quick succession and Gul can go on failing in his next 30 innings with the bat. As long he does the job with the ball he can get out for not for the rest of his career.

[w8in_4_0402]

Originally Posted by Sledger Once known as Gulchrist and Vivian Gul, he is one of the best timers of a cricket ball in world cricket. Can't keep class bats like this down for too long. I hope he'll come back with a bang.

Hahahahahahaha you made my nyt brother.

[Hash]

Originally Posted by PTI tsunami Our last two wkts put on 50 last match so I don't know what u on about

True they did and it was a good performance. They need to do this more often. You can see how the best teams in the world have tails that fight for their wickets and are difficult to dislodge.

[PakPosheeda]

Forget runs, he's not consistent enough to be in our playing xi. I was ing when he got those lucky wickets in the last match because I knew our managent needed an excuse to stick with him.


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[bluffmasterv2]

Hate this "oh he was lucky in Dubai" BS ! When trott got an inside edge wasnt he unlucky then? Or getting Swann out with a perfect seam in delivery off a no ball ? How unlucky was that ?

This game is already harsh enough for fast bowlers and when they get little bit of luck you guys whine like no tomorrow. Ever wondered that more than 70% of the time they are unlucky with play n misses /inside edges/dropped catches/umpire blunders?

[tauseefm]

Originally Posted by PakPosheeda Forget runs, he's not consistent enough to be in our playing xi. I was ing when he got those lucky wickets in the last match because I knew our managent needed an excuse to stick with him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I would advice you to stay "Posheeda" on pakpassion

[pakistanigoneaussie]

He's just a decent slogger, nothing more, abdur rehmans lack of batting form is more worring

[OZGOD]

Originally Posted by Saj Gul has failed to reach double figures in 22 of his last 35 test innings. Time for a good knock tomorrow Gully.

Ideally the batsmen up front should set a platform, but you do want your tail to wag as when it does it is extremely demoralising to the bowling side. He just needs to play a bit more freely IMO.

[ninjafirstslip]

Originally Posted by PakPosheeda Forget runs, he's not consistent enough to be in our playing xi. I was ing when he got those lucky wickets in the last match because I knew our managent needed an excuse to stick with him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

He bowled well. The wickets he got where due to applying pressure with the help of a disciplined cheema.

[Justcrazy]

should make the tail work a bit on batting, it is crucial these days. Its not about mindless slogging. Its about stealing singles and giving strike to the batsmen at the other end.

[Desi]

idc if he gets a golden duck as long as he takes some wickets when we need him to.

[saeedhk]

Love his pull shots

[Shah1]

we are just sick of Umer Gul ... we definitely have better players then him .... I know when he first got selected for the team ... Honestly even that time he did not deserve to be selected ... I saw that myself their was 10 times better bowlers ... but dont know why he got selected ... Harroon Rasheed was highly impress by the his action ... and ofcourse now after 10 years of International cricket ... even a little child will learn !!!

[Desi]

Originally Posted by Shah1 we are just sick of Umer Gul ... we definitely have better players then him .... I know when he first got selected for the team ... Honestly even that time he did not deserve to be selected ... I saw that myself their was 10 times better bowlers ... but dont know why he got selected ... Harroon Rasheed was highly impress by the his action ... and ofcourse now after 10 years of International cricket ... even a little child will learn !!!

i want what you're on.

when he was first selected he destroyed the strongest batting team in the world, in their prime, on a placid wicket.

unfortunately that will remain the highlight of his test career

[Hash]

Originally Posted by PTI tsunami Our last two wkts put on 50 last match so I don't know what u on about

so this is what I was 'on about', as you put it so eloquently.

[PakPosheeda]

Originally Posted by Hash so this is what I was 'on about', as you put it so eloquently.

What're you 'on about' and what're you smoking seem to be the default answer of all the UK based Pakistani teens when disagreeing with someone. Both phrases are thrown around here at PP too often.

[Desi]

Originally Posted by PakPosheeda What're you 'on about' and what're you smoking seem to be the default answer of all the UK based Pakistani teens when disagreeing with someone. Both phrases are thrown around here at PP too often.

USA here brah

[Torpedo]

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...=106314&page=7

[Bashira_taeli]

Not his batting I am worried about.

[Cover Drive]

Quite surprising to see how much we expect our tailenders to score, there runs are just 'bonus runs'' to Pakistan's total.

[1137moiz]

Is it just me or does the slightest hint of failure from Umar Gul nowadays attract over-the-top criticism? He's a bowler and has an average of 25 over the past year, runs are bonus (I know people will mention England's tail but Broad, Swann and Bresnan are genuine bowling allrounders and we don't have Test class allrounders apart from Mohammad Hafeez)

[ninjafirstslip]

Originally Posted by Cover Drive Quite surprising to see how much we expect our tailenders to score, there runs are just 'bonus runs'' to Pakistan's total.

You know a team is hungry for a win when the tail fights. Aussies, indians and the english have tail that can always give them a handy 30~40 run bonus.

[Cover Drive]

Originally Posted by ninjafirstslip You know a team is hungry for a win when the tail fights. Aussies, indians and the english have tail that can always give them a handy 30~40 run bonus.

Yeah but you just can't depend on your tail when your batsman haven't scored much of runs.

As I said tail-enders runs are bonus, sometimes you get them and sometimes you don't.

[AZ]

His general attitude and work ethic ever since Mohali have been off, IMO.

This is not the same Umar Gul we used to see, something is not right.

[Zaz]

Originally Posted by Cover Drive Yeah but you just can't depend on your tail when your batsman haven't scored much of runs. As I said tail-enders runs are bonus, sometimes you get them and sometimes you don't.

Nobodys depending on the tail but we do expect them to work hard on their batting in the nets, hang around in the middle and fight it out

Gul of late has been pretty shoddy with the bat to the fact that he doesnt even deserve to be a number 11

[Cover Drive]

Originally Posted by Zaz Nobodys depending on the tail but we do expect them to work hard on their batting in the nets, hang around in the middle and fight it out Gul of late has been pretty shoddy with the bat to the fact that he doesnt even deserve to be a number 11

They do practice in nets mate.

Plus Gul was not out, he ran out of partners, he only faced 2 balls.

[munda_khi]

Originally Posted by AZ His general attitude and work ethic ever since Mohali have been off, IMO. This is not the same Umar Gul we used to see, something is not right.

he was one of the main factors in our last test match victory against world #1. so i think we are reading too much into his batting form, which is by the way not his primary role.
i would rather more concern about top 4 pakistani batmen getting bowled or our top batsmen not utilizing there starts.
we never throw ball to misbah/younus/taufeeq/azhar/asad and ask to get wicket when other side hiiting our regular bowlers.
at best gul/ajmal/rehman role as batsman is same as azhar/ younus/asad/misbah/taufeeq role as bowler, which is part time.

[Osman]

Originally Posted by Cover Drive Quite surprising to see how much we expect our tailenders to score, there runs are just 'bonus runs'' to Pakistan's total.

these days it is a must....it is part of the reason teams like england and south africa have been so successful in the recent past

[Zaini]

He is a bowler not a batter, i know its required these days but his trade is his bowling and that is where we expect his performances to come from.

[srh]

Retire already from test cricket.

[Hash]

Nobody is expecting them to score magnificent 50s every innings and nobody is saying we should depend or rely on them either. But we expect them to put a price on their wickets and work hard on their batting....the best teams in the world all have tails that can get them decent runs at the end.

The problem is when you have a team 7 wickets down and that basically means the end of the innings. It shouldn't be. A good team would consistently score another 30-40 runs after that.

Imagine if England were 80 behind at this stage! We'd be in a much better and possibly match-winning position at the moment!

[Saqs]

Originally Posted by Sledger Once known as Gulchrist and Vivian Gul, he is one of the best timers of a cricket ball in world cricket. Can't keep class bats like this down for too long. I hope he'll come back with a bang.

Brilliant.

Guldozer when steam-rolling the opposition.

Umar 'Good' when bowling well.

Gulchrist when batting.

[Eht]

there will be another chance for umar gul tomorrow.

The opportunity is even bigger and so are the expectations

[hur rizvi]

Gul should come and throw his bat at everything ....


If he scores 15-20 runs it would be good for the team

[Impala_KaifTamasha]

Should play with freedom, if he gets out he gets out. If he can slog a few, they'll be bonus runs.

[OZGOD]

Gul needs to stand and deliver here. If Pakistan can put up at least 150 on the board thats better than nothing.

[ninjafirstslip]

If he can't diliver in this game I suggest he be dropped and given a talking to in a loving way of coarse. Its like he caught mitchell johnson disease.

[A-khan]

[Torpedo]

He is rubbish at everything.

[LegCutter]

Wait a second, shouldnt this thread be called Umar Gul's Bowling woes, seeing as he is a bowler?

[Osman]

Batting woes bowling woes everything. He is a pathetic player after even a decade in the game. Hopefully will never be seen in a Pak shirt again.

[Osman]

the worst thing about this clown is he swishes aimlessly ....bats with no intent ....selfish player

[BoycottNo1]

Gul is only good enough to get a duck in the tests batting wise

[Saj]

4 ducks in his last 5 Test innings now.

Last few test scores 4,2,4,7,0,0,23,0,0

[JibranAnsari]

Originally Posted by Saj 4 ducks in his last 5 Test innings now. Last few test scores 4,2,4,7,0,0,23,0,0

Wow

and some bowling figures from last few matches

0/76 , 0/11 , 1/90 , 0/43, 2/56 ,2/58 , 0/74

averaging 81.6

[Kianig89]

YA need a big spell from Gully otherwise after this series he has to be doomed from Tests

[Kwremb]

As if his bowling is any better

[Bullet Drive]

This should be the last test Gul plays for PAK.

[alberto]

I can't believe people think that Gul is a handy batsman! Riaz is better in both departments.

[MRSN]

But but but he's an experience bowler..I'd never drop him....

[alberto]

Originally Posted by MRSN But but but he's an experience bowler..I'd never drop him....

You are ignorant!

[majiz]

nevermind his batting he averages 34 with the ball nearly.....

[alberto]

This thread should be renamed about Umar Gul's bowling woes.