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Old 29th January 2012, 23:59
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Pakistan Team for England T20s/ODIs: According to the Express and Jang

Four main points of the article:

1) There is a tie between Malik and Asad Shafiq. One of them will be selected.

2) Adnan Akmal instead of Sarfraz Ahmed.

3) Sohail Tanveer will be added to the team.

4) Azhar Ali and Taufeeq will return.


Expected Team:

1. Hafeez
2. Farhat
3. Afridi
4. Malik or Asad
5. Sohail Tanveer
6. Younis
7. Misbah
8. Umar Akmal
9. Adnan Akmal
10. Umar Gul
11. Aizaz Cheema
12. Junaid Khan
13. Wahab Riaz
14. Saeed Ajmal
15. Abdur Rehman.


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Old 30th January 2012, 00:01
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Why do we need 5 pacers.....when we have only TWO openers and FOUR middle order batsmen????
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Sohail Tanvir will be picked because he took 4 wicket in the meaningless dead rubber Vs SL.

Imran Farhat will be picked because nobody else will open.

Malik.. I have no explanation.
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Why on earth will Malik or Kukri be selected? I would open with Hafeez and Asad with Umar one down
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I would select Raza Hasan ahead of Sohail Tanvir personally.

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Sohail Tanvir will be picked because he took 4 wicket in the meaningless dead rubber Vs SL.

Imran Farhat will be picked because nobody else will open.

Malik.. I have no explanation.
Asad should open
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I would have selected Raza Hasan ahead of Sohail Tanvir personally.
I would select ANYONE instead of Bhangra boy b4sharukh619AZManHoos
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Old 30th January 2012, 00:06
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Asad should open
Chief selector says no. Plus Asad is not even an opener. The likes of Zia and other openers will have to wait until saab retires.
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Old 30th January 2012, 00:06
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Ould have reckoned razzler would in there given he got an A contract, but if he hasn't hammad should have, Malik should be no where near the team, he is less deserving then farhat which is saying something
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Old 30th January 2012, 00:07
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Nasir Jamshed should be picked instead of Farhat... I just hate Farhat.
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Oh no, NO, NOOOOOOO!

OMG, anyhow Mirza, Fathead or Ostrich face are selected for the T20 world cup, I might have to kill a few people.
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Sohail Tanvir will be picked because he took 4 wicket in the meaningless dead rubber Vs SL.

Imran Farhat will be picked because nobody else will open.

Malik.. I have no explanation.

This is why we need blue eyed Mohsin over Whatmore

This is my biggest argument when I made my case for Whatmore. This " sifarish" culture is only going to end if Whatmore would be selected over " well deserved MHK" . ( According to the reports, Whatmore wants selection power as a coach).
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Oh no, NO, NOOOOOOO!

OMG, anyhow Mirza, Fathead or Ostrich face are selected for the T20 world cup, I might have to kill a few people.
Welcome to the world of chief selector, well spoken and good looking MHK
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This is why we need blue eyed Mohsin over Whatmore
Is Mohsin still part of selection committee? If he is ...then I don't know about it. Ilyas is chief selector.

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This is my biggest argument when I made my case for Whatmore. This " sifarish" culture is only going to end if Whatmore would be selected over " well deserved MHK" . ( According to the reports, Whatmore wants selection power as a coach).
Was Woolmer (arguably the best coach Pakistan ever had) able to end "sifarish" culture?

Was Lawason able to end "sifarish" culture?

Why do you think, Dav will be able to?
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Well it is the squad so hopefully none of them feature in any of the games, Wahab trumps Kukri in every aspect on the field.
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Old 30th January 2012, 00:18
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Welcome to the world of chief selector, well spoken and good looking MHK
father in law is head selector, MHK will probably be fulltime coach now anyway.

Honestly this country speaks of ending corruption but when it is staring at them right in the face they still do nothing
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Old 30th January 2012, 00:19
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The sifarish culture will not end no matter what and nothing the likes of Dav can do when someone high up behind the scenes demands someone will be selected.
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Old 30th January 2012, 00:21
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Well it is the squad so hopefully none of them feature in any of the games, Wahab trumps Kukri in every aspect on the field.
Forget Wahab, Ray Price is a much better slow left arm orthodox bowler, batsman, and fielder than Ostrich.
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Old 30th January 2012, 00:21
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Is Mohsin still part of selection committee? If he is ...then I don't know about it. Ilyas is chief selector.


Was Woolmer (arguably the best coach Pakistan ever had) able to end "sifarish" culture?

Was Lawason able to end "sifarish" culture?

Why do you think, Dav will be able to?
Woolmer got slapped in the face by mr ilyas for not selecting son in law. Lawson was fired for not taking BS. Sifarish culture they could not stop, but they could stop it flourishing. Now ilyas will be chief selector and we will never see the end of .
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Old 30th January 2012, 00:22
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Old 30th January 2012, 00:23
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Forget Wahab, Ray Price is a much better slow left arm orthodox bowler, batsman, and fielder than Ostrich.
Point taken but we don't have the services of price :-))
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Is Mohsin still part of selection committee? If he is ...then I don't know about it. Ilyas is chief selector.

I cannot even imagine if MHK is not part of the selection process or his input is not being considered, because he still a selection chief.

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Was Woolmer (arguably the best coach Pakistan ever had) able to end "sifarish" culture?

Was Lawason able to end "sifarish" culture?

Why do you think, Dav will be able to?
I dont think all of these people raised this issue as a part of deal breaker as compared to Whatmore.
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Old 30th January 2012, 00:26
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Fan of no one.
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Is that 'official' ? I don't know which level of drug addiction could explain the selections of the Malik-Tanvir losers-tandem (though Farhat was expected... can't drop the blind version of Brian Lara can we.)
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I cannot even imagine if MHK is not part of the selection process or his input is not being considered,
MHK is certainly not part of the selection committee... if you read the Express News article in OP, it was selection committee met in Lahore.

As far as MHK's input is concerned, PCB (by their rules/regulations) is/was totally against coach's interference in selection matters. For example; Waqar was sent show-cause notices for even speaking on selection matters.

Somebody had mentioned on PP that MHK and Waqar were not on speaking terms during the whole 2010 and....even 2011 when Waqar quit as a coach.

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because he still a selection chief.
I am absolutely sure that Ilyas became chief selector right after MHK was appointed coach.

If you read the OP, it even says..... Chief Selector Mohammad Ilyas will go to Dubai on Feb 1st.
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I dont think all of these people raised this issue as a part of deal breaker as compared to Whatmore.
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According to Majid Bhatii, Zaka Ashraf agreed to Whatmore's demand, this is why he came for the final meeting in Lahore.
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I don't know why you guys hate farhat so much he atleast could smurk the bowlers unlike doing tuk tuk like our other players in a 20 over game.
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Razzaq a ended story now always wanted him to be part of the team so he can do miracles but i think now he is just a old lazy chap now who could just hold the bat for some seconds.
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According to Majid Bhatii, Zaka Ashraf agreed to Whatmore's demand, this is why he came for the final meeting in Lahore.
After series win I doubt whatmore is coming back.
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I don't know why you guys hate farhat so much he atleast could smurk the bowlers unlike doing tuk tuk like our other players in a 20 over game.
1. he's a ******

2. he sucks



p.s. if killing wasn't illegal, would be no more
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And give Sarfraz Ahmed proper chance before discarding him.
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well, I don't think anyone can be surprised at the selection? They have consistently given chances to youngster lara
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What is his fault? Is he selecting himself?
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I have a lot of doubts about this squad. I don't think Express News got this right.
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According to Majid Bhatii, Zaka Ashraf agreed to Whatmore's demand, this is why he came for the final meeting in Lahore.
Great..... At the minimum, one good thing will come out of Dav's appointment.

How do think following scenario will pan out?
Once Dav is hired and is on the job, if/when PCB Chairman gets pressurized by political/govt forces to select a player (e.g. Malik - Firdius Aashiq)..... do you seriously think, Zaka Ashraf will not force Malik's selection to Dav...given Zaka Ashraf is a political appointment himself?

So, if Zaka Ashraf does forces Malik onto Dav, what choice Dav will have .... resign... and go look for another coaching job?
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What is his fault? Is he selecting himself?
Sharam tho aani chaiyeh. Fishing outside off stump for 10 years and still not fixed it. At least try and improve.
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No need to try and improve when you have a free pass to every squad.
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I have a lot of doubts about this squad. I don't think Express News got this right.
I hope so too.... specially about Sohail, Malik & Adnan!
Unfortunately Express News has been correct a number of times..... but fortunately they have been wrong too.
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I hope so too.... specially about Sohail, Malik & Adnan!
Unfortunately Express News has been correct a number of times..... but fortunately they have been wrong too.
Adnan has proven to be a handy bat but dropping Sarfraz after a few matches is unfair. Hopefully Malik, Tanvir, and Farhat wil start taking steroids so the ICC can ban them and do us some good.
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What is his fault? Is he selecting himself?
If my susar was the chief selector I would make sure that he knew that if did not pick me mujhe doosri dulhan laaney koi bi rok na sakat.
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Here is the difference between a respectable man and a leech.
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Hope this is not true. Don't need sohail tanveer and only two openers
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Old 30th January 2012, 02:04
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I have a feeling Asad will trump Malik. But Sohail Tanvir is just
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So Ahmed shehzad is completely out of contention. Seems a bit harsh now.
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Shehzad really needs to improve his attitude. I'd also like to see Hammad Azam get a decent run with the team.
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^ its been over a year. He was young and clearly one of the better openers we had in a while. We dont need more all rounders- we need an opener.
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Old 30th January 2012, 02:15
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^ its been over a year. He was young and clearly one of the better openers we had in a while. We dont need more all rounders- we need an opener.
You are underestimating the might of the great farhat . I think misbah prefers calm individuals in his team ,preferably those who do not indulge any controversy and ahmed like kohli is a controversy material.
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Old 30th January 2012, 02:20
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You are underestimating the might of the great farhat . I think misbah prefers calm individuals in his team ,preferably those who do not indulge any controversy and ahmed like kohli is a controversy material.
ahmed wishes he was kohli. Accepting the lesser evil is not the answer. The reason our test team has flourished is due to everyone having accountability and stake in their positions. Everyone made their place in the team and had incentive to keep it that way. Our ODI team is carrying dead weight (razzaq and tanvir) and two political love childs (farhat and malik). If Misbah wants a good odi squad he would need to stop compromising to make politicans and father in laws happy. To do that he may have to do a very controversial thing of not giving farhat a game. Afridi never gave games to youngsters. Misbah should not give it to people who dont deserve it.

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What's up with our selector's obsession with sohail tanvir?
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ahmed wishes he was kohli. Accepting the lesser evil is not the answer. The reason our test team has flourished is due to everyone having accountability and stake in their positions. Everyone made their place in the team and had incentive to keep it that way. Our ODI team is carrying dead weight (razzaq and tanvir) and two political love childs (farhat and malik). If Misbah wants a good odi squad he would need to stop compromising to make politicans and father in laws happy. To do that he may have to do a very controversial thing of not giving farhat a game. Afridi never gave games to youngsters. Misbah should not give it to people who dont deserve it.
Not very long ago Ahmed was handled a one match ban for arguing with the umpire , with that attitude you are only inviting trouble. He first needs to sort his indian-dehli-boys-like behavior and should keep performing in domestic. I don't think we can afford a badtamiz banda in our seemingly harmonious dressing room. Keeping tanvir,malik and farhat is criminal , we have guys like sharjeel khan, afaq raheem and hammad azam waiting for their turns to play. I don't mind razzak in t20 for the balance but in ODIs he should not play.
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Old 30th January 2012, 02:42
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Well its Ahmed's own fault then. We quite clearly need an opener for odi and its ludicrous that only farhat is in the squad competing with asad a late middle order batsmen. Misbah should play younis at opening or even try azhar. Make it clear that does not belong.
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Old 30th January 2012, 02:51
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Sarfraz Has not done anything good to keep stick with him have played more then 16 ODI Jamal Anwar could have been a better choice Lets see what Adnan does ...
Please do something to throw farhat out of side please
do not think Azhar to be in the 11
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Old 30th January 2012, 02:56
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Old 30th January 2012, 03:05
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Malik, Tanvir and Farhat....the curse on Pakistan cricket.
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Old 30th January 2012, 03:10
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Hammad Azam deserves a chance ahead of Tanvir and Malik
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Old 30th January 2012, 03:18
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5) Misbah
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8) Wahab
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This is gonna be our team!
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Old 30th January 2012, 03:22
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Malik and Farhat...when will this curse stop?
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Old 30th January 2012, 04:02
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Hey, in the squad in the OP, Taufeeq/Azhar's names are not listed.
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Old 30th January 2012, 04:02
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Sohail Tanvir is also a curse. He is keeping the likes of Hammad Azam out of the team
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Old 30th January 2012, 04:05
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Why no chance given to any of the up and coming players? ;facepalm;
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Old 30th January 2012, 04:06
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Omg malik ahead of asad this will b a diaster , tanvir not again
sarfraz should b selected ahead of adnan in ODI's , adnan is for test, , if this squad comes true then
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Old 30th January 2012, 04:13
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PCB is again showing what a crap they are, I hope they do not choose these crap players.

Sohail Tanveer / both should be never be seen in pakistan colours again.
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Old 30th January 2012, 05:02
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OMG,Shehzad again ignored.This is pathetic.if not he,then Sharjeel or Zia should have been,but this ****** is never gonna go.
And Kukri,this is just
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Old 30th January 2012, 05:10
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I would select Raza Hasan ahead of Sohail Tanvir personally.
Raza Hasan had a lousy QEA from what I know.
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Old 30th January 2012, 05:10
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Razzaq ka peecha choor do yaar ab wo BHAG bhi nahi sakta...FIELD main chupana mushkeel hai us ko.
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Old 30th January 2012, 05:25
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Razzaq ka peecha choor do yaar ab wo BHAG bhi nahi sakta...FIELD main chupana mushkeel hai us ko.
they have a few people to hide.

I think we are the only ODI team where our test team fields better then our LOI
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Old 30th January 2012, 05:26
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Express news is garbage worse than jand at times.
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Old 30th January 2012, 05:29
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Sohail Tanvir, Adnan Akmal, Malik or Asad Shafiq to be included in ODI/T20 Squad

Selectors have decided to keep Adnan Akmal in for ODIs/T20s as well.

Shahid Afridi and Sohail Tanvir will replace Azhar Ali and Taufeeq Umer.

One player will be included out of Asad Shafiq and Shoaib Malik....


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Old 30th January 2012, 05:39
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translation please? or is it what u posted above
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Old 30th January 2012, 05:42
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Sohail tanvir ***
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Old 30th January 2012, 06:03
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it's all of lolz i think we have change our team name as a akmals team.
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