Would It Be Wise to Introduce Afridi Back as ODI/T20 Captain?

[tradecars]

what you reckon. then base genuine odi and t20 specialists around his aggressive style of play. he did ok as capt before ?.

[HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR]

no tried and test failure and hopeless

[Boi]

Very wise.

[VTEC]

No he is performing well enough as it is

[Riff]

Keep Shahid "Semi Finalist" Afridi away from captaincy. Thank you.

[HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR]

Originally Posted by Riff Keep Shahid "Semi Finalist" Afridi away from captaincy. Thank you.

so is it a bad thing

[Savak]

Afridi has said on record he wont accept the captaincy again.

[Lara400]

Not a bad thought, he did well in his last stint. I don't think there is another player to take up the mantle. coffin dodgers out, Afridi is good at nurturing youngsters, so long as he keeps a control over his auntie mouth.

[violet_may]

I think it's best for the team that he performs really well individually, which he seems to be doing and is focused.

Wouldn't be a big difference with him as captain, since a good part of this team needs a makeover if we go by the performances in this ODI series alone.

[Riff]

Originally Posted by HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR so is it a bad thing

Yes. We need a captain who can take us beyond the semi final of the WC.

[TalhaSyed]

Originally Posted by Riff Yes. We need a captain who can take us beyond the semi final of the WC.

Man i just feel sad for people like you

Any way as far as the OP is concerned...very brace to make this thread mate

[coy0607]

Originally Posted by HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR no tried and test failure and hopeless

how did he fail??? they were 1 game away from the world cup final, they played much better/fighting series against england in england under very difficult circumstances (right after the fixing charged came out)- losing 3-2, and even the South africa series was better fought, losing 3-2... and he had a much younger/inexperienced team that what misbah has had

but they cant give the captaincy back to him, that is just taking a step back, need a long term captain, and till that person is found, keep misbah as captain, just pray whatmore does the team planning and not mr. defensive

[Markhor]

Then the media statements will be delivered by Afridi at 90mph.

We need let him focus on his own game without the burden of captaincy.

[Down2Earth]

he's a rubbish captain, he can make the most of his talent without the burden of the captaincy.

[90MPH]

No it is not wise. Afridi is just as defensive as Misbah and at times looks clueless when the pressure is on.

Misbah is the best we have for the time being. ODI team needs major overhauling but going back to Afridi will not make any difference.

[Riff]

Originally Posted by TalhaSyed Man i just feel sad for people like you Any way as far as the OP is concerned...very brace to make this thread mate

Likewise, I feel sorry people who settle for less. Have high hopes for once

[Down2Earth]

Originally Posted by Savak Afridi has said on record he wont accept the captaincy again.

not that that means anything

[TalhaSyed]

Originally Posted by Riff Likewise, I feel sorry people who settle for less. Have high hopes for once

I have bigger problems now bro...
...cant believe I wasted my 4000th post on you

Anyway so what would your high hopes be?

Im not saying bring back Afridi as captain but the fact that you cant appreciate what Afridi did for pak last WC is just pathetic to be honest.

The fact that you consider calling him "Semi Final" captain is just sad.

The fact that you want to have a go at him because he bought the team together 7 months arguably after the biggest controversy in the history of Pak cricket & bring some respect to the country and force people around the globe to take the teams seriously again is just pathetic.

Going by your theory we should bring back as captain - who many argue shouldnt even be in the ODI team (Im not one of them FYI) - or Imran Khan because acording to your logic if a captain can get a team to the Semi Final of a WC he's not good enough.

If you have some proper reason why Afridi shouldnt be captain fair enough but saying he shouldnt be captain because he is a "Semi Final" captain is just stupid.

[Riff]

Originally Posted by TalhaSyed I have bigger problems now bro... ...cant believe I wasted my 4000th post on you Anyway so what would your high hopes be? Im not saying bring back Afridi as captain but the fact that you cant appreciate what Afridi did for pak last WC is just pathetic to be honest. The fact that you consider calling him "Semi Final" captain is just sad. The fact that you want to have a go at him because he bought the team together 7 months arguably after the biggest controversy in the history of Pak cricket & bring some respect to the country and force people around the globe to take the teams seriously again is just pathetic. Going by your theory we should bring back as captain - who many argue shouldnt even be in the ODI team (Im not one of them FYI) - or Imran Khan because acording to your logic if a captain can get a team to the Semi Final of a WC he's not good enough. If you have some proper reason why Afridi shouldnt be captain fair enough but saying he shouldnt be captain because he is a "Semi Final" captain is just stupid.

How did he bring the team together when there were reports of team disunity during the WC?

[TalhaSyed]

Originally Posted by Riff How did he bring the team together when there were reports of team disunity during the WC?

Love the reliability of these 'reports' and he would have done something right to get the team to the semi final - whcih wouldnt have been possible without the team playing together.

[HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR]

Originally Posted by coy0607 how did he fail??? they were 1 game away from the world cup final, they played much better/fighting series against england in england under very difficult circumstances (right after the fixing charged came out)- losing 3-2, and even the South africa series was better fought, losing 3-2... and he had a much younger/inexperienced team that what misbah has had but they cant give the captaincy back to him, that is just taking a step back, need a long term captain, and till that person is found, keep misbah as captain, just pray whatmore does the team planning and not mr. defensive

ultra defensive, ultra nervousness and fear, totally lost under pressure

not the smartest brain for strategy

[ali85]

What's the point. You can make Awais Zia the new captain but it won't fix the problem. The problem isn't the captain but the sifarishi players like Akmals, Shoaib Malik, Imran Farhat.

[Desi_Joker]

It would be very wise.

[AJK]

He should never have been replaced as captain he was doing a good job but it would probably be counter productive to go back.

[Safar55]

Like how misbah cried and through his toys out the pram for malik... Afridi will do the same for another 1-in-10 man Razzaq.

We need some new blood. Why the hell wasnt hammad given just 1 chance is the last few series? But constant failure malik got a game. A disgrace.

Just for that i would lean towards afridi more than misbah. Tuk tuk should stick to test. He lost us semi final and that's what im gonna think about now. Wrist slitting time

[cric]

I must Under afridi pakistan bowling never looked this bad. infect it was brilliant. specially last half part.

[zaid65]

Originally Posted by Savak Afridi has said on record he wont accept the captaincy again.

You throw captaincy at him, this power hungry will lick it even from the garbage bag.

[cric]

Originally Posted by Riff Likewise, I feel sorry people who settle for less. Have high hopes for once

How come you malik fan then? that's settle for worse.

[MalikMohsin]

Originally Posted by cric How come you malik fan then? that's settle for worse.

Shoaib Malik used to be one of the best Cricketer of Pakistan during Inzimam captaincy, and averaged more than 50 against several teams including South Africa, and literally toyed Indian bowling attack for fun while our current batting was choked to lose in Semi Final against India - one of the weakest bowling attack in flat track.

Shoaib Malik has given us 2003-2008 including several matches like Champion Trophy vs India. Shoaib Malik has always provided us with his best fielding quality service which our young generation still struggle to match with Shoaib Malik fitness level. After Inzimam and Mohammad Yousuf, he is the only player left who actually know how to take single comfortably and find the gap, great runner, and easily milk the spinners comfortably while some of our players do struggle. Also, he used to be fighter against fast bowler which one of main reason why he averages 50 versus South Africa in ODI format. He also has played many match winnings including provided the runs with decent strike to take the pressure off all of the times. He also has succeeded as opener, one down, and middle order position, and can bowl okay sometimes.

Too many qualities of Shoaib Malik which made him the second best ODI batsman after Inzimam during Inzimam captaincy, and scored more centuries than Yousuf-Younus combined in ODI during Inzimam captaincy. I can go on...

No player become crap overnight, but bad form does happen, and it's part of Cricket. Unfortunately, his bad form started when he was forced to resign from the captaincy, and ever since, he has struggled to gain the form back. Insha'Allaah!, he will gain the form back.

Why i support him? Hoping to see the repeat of 2003-2008 or better than 2003-2008. Some say it's impossible now, but if there is anything i have learned in life and Pakistan cricket that nothing is impossible, and certainly, not when it comes to Pakistan cricket. Have faith. I have faith that Shoaib Malik will prove to be better than 2003-2008, and lead us to the victory of WC 2015 because he is also great captain, and under pressure especially as captain. His records in domestic speaks for his achievement.

So, here is the hoping. Nothing wrong to hope for. At the end, Only Allaah (SWT) knows the Unseen. If it is not meant to be, then it's not meant to be. If it's meant to be, then it's meant to be.

So, we can't give up on Shoaib Malik easily. After all, he is solution to middle order batting line problems. Insha'Allaah, he will gain the form back.

[Hamzakhalid]

Time to give captaincy to hafeez

[sam]

Very wise.

Compare results of 2010 ODI series Vs the current one. Add to it the fact that both were played in dramatically different circumstances.

Misbah needs to go. The quicker, the better.

[Dr_Bassim]

I feel sad for some of our fans...

Even though Afridi did an ACCEPTABLE job as captain (though no words brilliant) but better than others....

The idea of bringing back Afridi as captain does as much justice as the idea of bringing back Shoaib Malik in the team....

We seem to be going round in circles...

Not only is this lame, but it makes me realize.. why do we always settle for 2nd best in everything in life...

[shahrukh619]

nope.... MISBAH is a better captain... Misbah has only lost a single series till now...

and Afridi is also a defensive captain aswell, if some foolish afridi fans don't know...

[Atif]

Not sure, but it would be wise to remove Misbah from the ODI and T20 team.

[JibranAnsari]

No thanks , don't want all thesedramas again . Hafeez could be a wise choice.

[Phool]

Misbah had lead the team well so far! No need to bring back Afridi!

[Fireworks11]

Let him focus on his game without the captaincy burden, he's doing well.

[CalculatedRisk]

Under Afridi, we have had the worst t-20 record.

[Paradox]

Well, let's see:-

Misbah = defensive on field captain
Afridi = defensive on field captain

Misbah = great leader of men, brought the team together after minor Waqar-Afridi scandal
Afridi = good leader of men, brought the team together after major spot-fixing scandal

Misbah = gives the opposition extremely easy singles
Afridi = gives the opposition extremely easy singles

Misbah = would not merit a place in the ODI/T20 side by himself if not captain
Afridi = would easily merit a place in the ODI/T20 side by himself if not captain

Misbah = sharper cricket brain
Afridi = weaker cricket brain

Misbah = would be in his early 40's by WC 2015 and will most likely retire before the WC
Afridi = would be in his late 30's by WC 2015 and will most probably retire right after the WC

Misbah = backward step
Afridi = backward step

The choice is up to you. If I had to pick between either one, I'd go with Afridi, because Misbah does not deserve a place in the ODI and Twenty20 side in my opinion.

The PCB should do with Azhar Ali what CSA did with Graeme Smith many years ago and just make him captain. The losses will come, but it'll pay off in the long run.

[shahrukh619]

Paradox, Misbah also brought the team together after the major spot-fixing scandel.. Misbah was named captain for the south Africa test series remember.. Akhtar mentions this in his book...

MIsbah doesn' deserve a t20 spot??? You forgot the t20 game against Sri Lanka..........

[James]

Definitely an idea

[Paradox]

Originally Posted by shahrukh619 Paradox, Misbah also brought the team together after the major spot-fixing scandel.. Misbah was named captain for the south Africa test series remember.. Akhtar mentions this in his book...

You are partially right. But, Afridi arrived in England a couple of days after the spot-fixing scandal broke and the media and pretty much EVERYBODY was all over the Pakistan team. He came in and led the Pakistan ODI and Twenty20 side in a series that was about to be called off because of what was going on - that requires some courage. Granted we lose the T20's 2-0, but the spirit and determination that our team showed in the Oval and Lord's ODIs was one that would be impossible to come out of a side who had lost it's three major players to a spot-fixing scandal. We came back from a lost cause of a series and squared it 2-2. Yes, we did lose the series, but I'm talking about those two ODIs specifically.

Misbah has done an amazing job with the Test side though, but this thread and my earlier post was about the ODI and Twenty20 team.

Originally Posted by shahrukh619 MIsbah doesn' deserve a t20 spot??? You forgot the t20 game against Sri Lanka..........

Well, in that case, I've conveniently decided to forget the T20 World Cup in 2007 too. I know he's had a few good performances, but really, I'm pretty sure we have better middle-order batsmen in Pakistan who are more suited to the Twenty20 format.

[mufassir]

^I agree

[MBY]

it seems like he will be back

his agent is in full flow!

[ahamedirshad123]

@Aces_sports Who is going to be the next PAK captain for ODI's and T20's..... #bignews

Looks like Beast is back

[Pete Rose]

nope.
his form is dodgy.