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Old 20th February 2012, 07:39
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Misbah and Ajmal take top prizes



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The players of 2011, as decided by the numbers. Also starring Shane Watson, Ian Bell and Mohammad Hafeez

The Statsguru Awards are based purely on numbers from international matches in 2011. However, they go beyond the usual stats - runs scored, wickets taken, batting averages and such - and are based instead on detailed data analyses of performances. Which batsman played more consistently than any other over the entire year? Which batting pair was the most prolific through the year? Which bowler was at his best in the third and fourth innings of Tests? Read on to find out. (All ODI stats include performances against Test-playing sides only.)

BATSMAN OF THE YEAR
(cut-off: 700 runs each in Tests and ODIs)

Misbah-ul-Haq
Test average 69.54, ODI index 37.22, Total 106.76


The year 2011 was a fantastic one for Pakistan, and for their captain, Misbah-ul-Haq. In Tests he topped 50 eight times in 16 innings, and averaged 69.54; in ODIs he held Pakistan's middle order together, scoring eight more half-centuries in 22 innings, and achieving an average of 55.06. His overall strike rate was a relatively low 67.59, but more than once he turned it on when his team required him to, scoring 93 off 91 balls in New Zealand and a 91-ball 83 against Sri Lanka in Colombo. However, because of that strike rate, his ODI index (average multiplied by runs scored per ball) was only 37.22. His overall score is the sum of his Test average and his ODI index.

Kumar Sangakkara was the other batsman who had good numbers in both Tests (average 49.23 in 11 matches) and ODIs (average 48, strike rate 70.68). His overall score was 83.16. Alastair Cook would have been top of the pile but he scored only 600 ODI runs. In Tests he averaged 84.27, and in ODIs 46.15 at a 90-plus strike rate. However, he missed the World Cup, the premier one-day event of 2011, and thus fell short of the 700-run cut-off.

BOWLER OF THE YEAR
(cut-off: 30 wickets in Tests, 25 in ODIs)

Saeed Ajmal
Test average 23.86, ODI index 11.33, Total 35.19
Saeed Ajmal had an outstanding year in both forms of the game. In Tests he was the leading wicket-taker with 50 in eight, at an average of 23.86. In ODIs he was equally impressive with both his wicket-taking ability and his economy rate - 26 in 17 games at 19.53, conceding 3.48 runs per over. His ODI index (the product of average and runs conceded per ball) was an outstanding 11.33. Add his Test bowling average, and his total ODI score was 35.19. Graeme Swann, the winner of this prize last year, only managed an overall score of 47.75. Dale Steyn had a superb year too, but he fell short of the cut-offs, taking 28 wickets in Tests and 24 in ODIs.


BEST TEST BATSMAN
(cut-off: 700 runs)

Ian Bell - average 118.75
Bell played only 11 Test innings in 2011, but he made them count, scoring five centuries and two fifties in those innings. He started the year with 115 in the New Year Test in Sydney, and finished with 235 in his last Test innings for 2011, at The Oval. The other batsmen who scored 700-plus runs at averages of 80 or more were Younis Khan (765 runs at 85) and Alastair Cook (927 runs at 84.27).

MOST CONSISTENT TEST BATSMAN
(cut-off: 700 runs)

Misbah-ul-Haq - Consistency index 2.12
In 16 Test innings in 2011, Misbah had ten scores between 41 and 102, which is an excellent indication of his consistency through the year. His lack of huge scores or failures meant his standard deviation - which is a measure of the average distance from the mean - was a comparatively low 32.82. That, combined with his average of 69.54, gave him a consistency index (average divided by standard deviation) of 2.12, which was the best among all batsmen who scored 750-plus Test runs in 2011. Bell had a much higher average (118.75) but also a higher standard deviation, of 65.02, giving him a consistency index of 1.82.

BEST TEST BOWLER
(cut-off: 30 wickets)

Stuart Broad - 33 wickets at 22.30
In 34 Tests before the start of 2011, Stuart Broad's bowling stats were pretty ordinary: 99 wickets at 35.24. In 2011, though, he was anything but pedestrian, taking 33 wickets in seven Tests at a fantastic average of 22.30, the best among bowlers who took 30 wickets in the year. In terms of averages, he was marginally ahead of the leading wicket-taker of 2011, Ajmal, whose 50 wickets came at 23.86.

BEST ODI BATSMAN
(cut-off: 700 runs)

Shane Watson - ODI batting index 62.03
Watson towered over the rest in terms of ODI batting performances in 2011. He started the year with an unbeaten 161 against England in Melbourne, and later in the year thrashed an unbeaten 185 off 96 balls against Bangladesh. In all, he scored 1024 runs in 20 innings, with two centuries and seven fifties (against the Test-playing teams only). The second-best index belonged to MS Dhoni: an average of 59.25 and strike rate of 93.55 gave him an index of 55.43.


BEST ODI BOWLER

(cut-off: 25 wickets)

Saeed Ajmal - ODI bowling index 11.33
Ajmal's 26 wickets came at an average of 19.53 and an economy rate of 3.48, giving him an index score of 11.33 (product of average and runs conceded per ball). The others who also did well were Mohammad Hafeez (index score of 13.75) and Mitchell Johnson, who was the leading ODI wicket-taker of the year with 38, at an average of 19.31 and an economy rate of 4.41.


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OTHER AWARDS

Test batting
(Cut-off: 700 runs, unless mentioned otherwise)

BATTING PAIR OF THE YEAR: OPENERS
(Cut-off: ten innings)

Andrew Strauss and Alastair Cook
With fast bowlers doing so well in 2011, this wasn't a particularly good year for opening batsmen: among the five opening pairs who batted together at least ten times, only one had a partnership average of more than 40. Alastair Cook and Andrew Strauss scored 469 runs in 11 innings at an average of 42.63. They had only one century stand, but it was a big one - 186 against India at Edgbaston. The lowest average among these five pairs belonged to Mohammad Hafeez and Taufeeq Umar - 32.61 in 19 innings.

BATTING PAIR OF THE YEAR: OTHERS
(Cut-off: eight innings)

Taufeeq Umar and Azhar Ali
In eight innings Umar and Azhar put together 656 runs at an average of 82 per partnership, with three century partnerships and as many half-century stands. However, another pair needs to be mentioned: Kevin Pietersen and Ian Bell added 693 runs in just four innings at an average of 173.25. Their partnerships were: 71, 110, 162 and 350.

HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF TEAM RUNS
(Cut-off: five Tests)

Darren Bravo
In 2011, Dareen Bravo scored 949 runs out of West Indies' total of 5090, a percentage of 18.64. Four others had percentages of between 18 and 18.5, which makes this easily the most closely contested category. The others were Ian Bell (18.46% of England's runs), Kumar Sangakkara (18.29%), Rahul Dravid (18.25%) and Shakib Al Hasan (18.11%).

MOST RUNS IN WINS

Ian Bell
Bell ran away with this award, scoring 722 runs in the six Tests that England won, at an average of 103.14. The top three aggregates in runs were all from England, with Cook (670) and Pietersen (572) being the other two. With a 400-run cut-off, though, the best average in wins belonged to Younis Khan: he scored 445 runs at 111.25.

BEST STRIKE RATE

Kevin Pietersen
Among those who scored 700 runs, the best strike rate belonged to Pietersen, who scored his 731 runs at a rate of 64.12 per 100 balls. Bell missed out by a whisker, achieving a rate of 64.01. None of the others in the 700-run club had a strike rate of more than 52.

HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF RUNS IN BOUNDARIES

Sachin Tendulkar
Out of the 756 runs that Sachin Tendulkar scored in Tests, 53.70% were in fours and sixes - he struck 94 fours and five sixes, which means 406 runs came in boundaries. The others with a boundary percentage of more than 50 were Misbah-ul-Haq (53.07), Pietersen (52.53) and Bell (50.32).

Test bowling
(cut-off: 30 wickets)

BEST STRIKE RATE

Fidel Edwards
His 32 Test wickets in 2011 came at a strike rate of 47.3 balls per wicket, which was marginally better than Stuart Broad's 49.1. Steyn had a strike rate of 38.2 balls per wicket, but he played only five Tests in 2011 and missed the 30-wicket cut-off.

BEST SPINNER

Saeed Ajmal
Ajmal was the hands-down winner with an average of 23.86 for his 50 Test wickets. The bowler who came closest was Abdur Rehman, whose 36 wickets came at 26.27. The other spinner who deserves a mention is Sri Lanka's Rangana Herath - he took 41 wickets at 29.07.

BEST THIRD- AND FOURTH-INNINGS BOWLER
(cut-off: 15 wickets)

Vernon Philander
It's a time when spinners usually prosper, but in 2011, Vernon Philander had the best average in the third and fourth innings in Tests. He took five-fors in each of the three innings he bowled in, and averaged 8.93 runs per wicket. Darren Sammy averaged 20, Herath 20.81, and James Anderson 22.05.

ODI batting
(cut-off: 700 runs unless mentioned otherwise)

BEST STRIKE RATE

Shane Watson
Watson was the only batsman to score 700-plus ODI runs at faster than a run a ball. His strike rate for the year was 109.05. The two others who came close to a strike rate of 100 were Suresh Raina (99.58) and MS Dhoni (93.55).

LOWEST STRIKE RATE

Misbah-ul-Haq
Among those who scored 700-plus ODI runs, Misbah was the only one with a strike rate of less than 70 - he scored at 67.59 per 100 balls. Next in line was Sangakkara, with a strike rate of 70.68.

BATTING PAIR OF THE YEAR: OPENERS
(cut-off: minimum ten innings)

Tillakaratne Dilshan and Upul Tharanga
In 19 stands, Dilshan and Tharanga averaged 61.61 per completed stand at a run rate of 5.45 runs per over, giving them a partnership index (average multiplied by runs per ball) of 55.96. The only pair who ran them close were Alastair Cook and Craig Kieswetter, who averaged 50 at a rate of 6.12 per over in 15 stands. Their index was 51.

BATTING PAIR OF THE YEAR: OTHERS
(cut-off: minimum eight innings)

Shane Watson and Ricky Ponting
The Australian pair took the honours in this one, averaging 77.14 at a run rate of 6.98 runs per over in the eight innings in which they batted together. That gave them a partnership index of 89.74. Dhoni and Raina were a distant second, with an index of 54.99.

HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF RUNS IN BOUNDARIES

Shane Watson
Watson was the easy winner in this category, scoring 62.30% of his runs in boundaries, thanks to his tally of 104 fours and 37 sixes. The next-best was Mohammad Hafeez, with a percentage of 53.04.

LOWEST DOT-BALL PERCENTAGE

Suresh Raina
Of the 1541 balls that Suresh Raina faced, only 713 were not scored off, a percentage of 42.62. It was the lowest among batsmen who scored at least 700 runs. The others with low dot-ball percentages were Dhoni (45.53), Virat Kohli (46.27) and Jonathan Trott (46.62). The batsmen with the highest dot-ball percentages were Hafeez (59.92) and Tharanga (59.24).

HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF TEAM RUNS

Shane Watson
Watson scored 1024 runs out of Australia's 5238, a percentage of 19.55. The next two in the list were Sangakkara (18.90% of Sri Lanka's runs) and New Zealand's Martin Guptill (18.22%).

MOST RUNS IN WINS

Virat Kohli
Kohli came out on top in terms of sheer number of runs (853 in wins), but Watson's 850 runs in victories came at a better average (70.83 to 56.86) and a better scoring rate (119.54 to 88.02).

MOST RUNS IN CHASES

Shane Watson
Watson and Kohli swapped positions this time. Watson was on top, with 725 runs at 72.50 and a strike rate of 120.63, followed by Kohli (708 runs at 54.46, and a strike rate of 86.13).

ODI bowling
(cut-off: min 120 overs)

BEST ECONOMY RATE

Mohammad Hafeez
Hafeez's stifling offspin made him the most difficult bowler to get away - he conceded a mere 3.43 runs per over. Ajmal was next with an economy rate of 3.48. None of the others gave away less than 4.3 runs per over.

WORST ECONOMY RATE

Shafiul Islam
For the second successive year, Shafiul Islam of Bangladesh won this not-so-complimentary prize. The small consolation for him is that in 2011 his economy rate was 5.89; in 2010 it was 6.29. England's James Anderson was, quite surprisingly, the next worst, with an economy rate of 5.44.

BEST DOT-BALL PERCENTAGE

Saeed Ajmal
Ajmal led the way with a dot-ball percentage of 64.90, followed closely by Umar Gul (63.68). Nuwan Kulasekara, Mitchell Johnson, Brett Lee and Lasith Malinga were the others with dot-ball percentages of more than 60.

LOWEST BOUNDARY PERCENTAGE

Mohammad Hafeez
Hafeez conceded only 31 fours and 13 sixes in 1374 deliveries, which means only 44 balls went for boundaries, a percentage of 3.20. Next on the list was Harbhajan Singh, with a percentage of 3.96. On the other hand, the percentage for Shafiul was 12.02, for Tim Bresnan 10.70, and for Anderson 10.55.

Team

MOST DOMINANT: TESTS

England
England were clearly the best Test team of 2011, winning six of their eight Tests and drawing the other two. That included their 4-0 whitewash of India. Next in line were Pakistan, who won six of their ten Tests and lost only one. Australia were next, with a win-loss ratio of 1.33.

MOST DOMINANT: ODIs

Pakistan
Pakistan had the best win-loss ratio in ODIs in 2011, winning 20 and losing 7, for a ratio of 2.85. Australia followed closely, winning 16 and losing 6 (2.67). India, who won the World Cup in 2011, were third with a win-loss ratio of 1.90.

MOST DISCIPLINED: ODIs

India
India conceded the least runs in wides and no-balls in ODIs in 2011: their stat per match was 6.90. Bangladesh followed closely with 7, while South Africa were next at 7.08. At the other end of the scale were Australia - 9.96 runs conceded through wides and no-balls per match - and Pakistan (9.89).

All ODI stats include only performances against Test-playing sides only.

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Old 20th February 2012, 07:41
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and everyone wanted Misbah to be removed after the world cup.... , and even now again people want him to be removed

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Pakistan had the best win-loss ratio in ODIs in 2011, winning 20 and losing 7, for a ratio of 2.85. Australia followed closely, winning 16 and losing 6 (2.67). India, who won the World Cup in 2011, were third with a win-loss ratio of 1.90.
wonderful stuff.. And people want Misbah to be removed as captain.........

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Old 20th February 2012, 07:47
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To be fair whenever I remember Mohali 2011, I just want to punch him (Misbah) forever.

You will not accept it shahrukh619, but he was the biggest reason of our defeat in that game.

I'm not sure how old you were when 1996 Quarter Final was played but all those who cried that night wanted revenge of 1996 Quarter whenever we meet them again in WC knockout and Mohali 2011 was our best chance but Misbah sold the semi final to India.
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and everyone wanted Misbah to be removed after the world cup.... , and even now again people want him to be removed


wonderful stuff.. And people want Misbah to be removed as captain.........
Yes cause he is useless in odis.
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Old 20th February 2012, 07:51
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To be fair whenever I remember Mohali 2011, I just want to punch him (Misbah) forever.

You will not accept it shahrukh619, but he was the biggest reason of our defeat in that game.

I'm not sure how old you were when 1996 Quarter Final was played but all those who cried that night wanted revenge of 1996 Quarter whenever we meet them again in WC knockout and Mohali 2011 was our best chance but Misbah sold the semi final to India.
semi final lost was not misbah's fault.... Whole team's fault.... Starting from kamran Akmal to Umar Gul
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semi final lost was not misbah's fault.... Whole team's fault.... Starting from kamran Akmal to Umar Gul
I knew you would come up with this crap. I said 'main' reason.

We were still in the game until Misbah started blocking everything.
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Old 20th February 2012, 07:55
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I knew you would come up with this crap. I said 'main' reason.

We were still in the game until Misbah started blocking everything.
why you ignore Younis Khan, Gul and Afridi's performance???
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why you ignore Younis Khan, Gul and Afridi's performance???
Nobody's ignoring it. Fact is that when Younis got out we were still in the game. I've never liked Younis after that game as well but you are just talking about misbah so I just mentioned him.

Afridi tried at least and was aggressive but Misbah was in no mood to score at all. The intent of Misbah wasn't there to win the game, thats it.
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Old 20th February 2012, 08:02
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hey he got a 50 in the semi final for all i care , but it was not his fault cause of the loss.. and people should stop blaming him for that and every loss now and then...

WLFC did you ever watch the Rawalpindi Rams vs Karachi dolphin t20 final's???

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Old 20th February 2012, 08:20
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Very unfortunate... Misbah is a very selfish player who is playing for personal milestones only and unfortunately has not had to face quality bowling... He has scored useless runs in matches that don't matter... He has destroyed Pakistan cricket and we will need time to become the aggressive force we once were in world cricket...

Winning and losing is part of the game... but destroying one's identity is not...

He has been successful in tests because we have been playing on spin friendly tracks against poor opposition... We cannot win against Australia, SA, Eng and India in their home conditions... Get rid of Misbah and we can start the rebuilding...

His bubble will burst soon...

If he had a shred of dignity left in him, he would have resigned after his pathetic performance in the world cup... However, he has no dignity...

Shame on you Misbah... All that he is doing is blocking the place of a deserving youngster...

Misbah... the worst thing that could have happened to Pakistan cricket....
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Old 20th February 2012, 08:22
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To be fair whenever I remember Mohali 2011, I just want to punch him (Misbah) forever.

You will not accept it shahrukh619, but he was the biggest reason of our defeat in that game.

I'm not sure how old you were when 1996 Quarter Final was played but all those who cried that night wanted revenge of 1996 Quarter whenever we meet them again in WC knockout and Mohali 2011 was our best chance but Misbah sold the semi final to India.
Agreed... PCB please get rid of him forever....
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^^Can't believe it that fools like you call them selves Pak cricket fans.. Shame on you

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Misbah... the worst thing that could have happened to Pakistan cricket....

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Old 20th February 2012, 08:25
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^^Can't believe it that people like you call them selves Pak cricket fans.. Shame on you
^ I can't believe people like you call urself fans... Supporters like you are the biggest reason why we cannot plan properly for the future... Misbah is useless... Get rid of him...

He'll prove it in time... Unfortunately you are blinded by you short-term nature to see it...
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^ I can't believe people like you call urself fans... Supporters like you are the biggest reason why we cannot plan properly for the future... Misbah is useless... Get rid of him...

He'll prove it in time... Unfortunately you are blinded by you short-term nature to see it...
And I'm afraid you sir are blinded by your short-sightednes and inability to respect other people's opinions.

O-p-i-n-i-o-n. Everyone has a right to one, look it up in the dictionary. You have one too which you have made it clear. Doesnt make it any more or less valuable than Shahrukh's opinion. But the fact that you consider your own blatant hatred against him as the end-all be-all wisdom of Pakistani cricket is moderately annoying.
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^ so i need to respect his opinion but the does'nt need to respect mine...

Only time will prove who is right and who is wrong...

But anyone... and i mean anyone who can forgive Misbah for single-handedly losing us the semi-final is not a true fan... I am sorry but he is not...

Everyone is entitled to his opinion... I am entitled to mine....

This is not blind hate... I suggest you look up his performances... You'll know what i'm talking about...

Oh sorry... you won't... I forgot... You love him...
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and everyone wanted Misbah to be removed after the world cup.... , and even now again people want him to be removed


Pakistan had the best win-loss ratio in ODIs in 2011, winning 20 and losing 7, for a ratio of 2.85. Australia followed closely, winning 16 and losing 6 (2.67). India, who won the World Cup in 2011, were third with a win-loss ratio of 1.90.



wonderful stuff.. And people want Misbah to be removed as captain.........
are you really going to base misbahs inclusion based on those stats, how can you actually be satisfied with the odi team, are wins against Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Ireland, West Indies, and a washed up Sri Lanka enough for you..... c'mon man, aim a little higher than mediocrity, we could have beaten those team with farhat captaining the team........ your own posted stats say he had the worst strike rate
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and everyone wanted Misbah to be removed after the world cup.... , and even now again people want him to be removed


wonderful stuff.. And people want Misbah to be removed as captain.........
Im still against in LOI cricket as player and as captain where in Test he should retain as Test captain and extend his career as a batsman.
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I dont rate Misbah as an ODI player...

His useless 50 .. in the Mohali match was pointless.. The pace he was scoring .. he was just making sure.. Pakistan lose as near the target as possible.. with him top scoring.... so that everyone would think he is some kind of Hero....

You play to win .. You dont play to stop, and expect everyone around you to hit the shots..


The day I lost confidence in Misbah was when he said Farhat cannot be dropped because he scored a fifty against Afghanistan...

For God's sake, is Afghanistan the new benchmark for Misbah and his side?

And why is it losing the semifinal was whole team's fault.. ?

When the whole team won .. I saw Misbah being hailed as the best captain ever.. No one said it was Ajmal who won the match or Rehman who bowled his team to victory.. It was all raving about the captain...

Its simple really. If Misbah wins one game for Pakistan on his instincts alone .. I would back him..

Everything is done on a platter for him.. All he has to do is tuk tuk and pretend to be holding one end up ... while increasing his inflated average...

To be honest even Abdul Razzaq has achieved better than Misbah..

But I dont mind the blind optimism we have on Misbah.. He should be leading the test side.. without doubt.. to have him in the ODI side.. is simply making a mockery out the team..

Sooner or later time will tell if it was the right decision. Till then, Good luck Misbah and Pakistan cricket...
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Misbah-ul-Haq, slowest ODI player of the year.

The W/L ratio is good, but you have to take into account that a good part of those wins came against under-par teams.
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I dont rate Misbah as an ODI player...

His useless 50 .. in the Mohali match was pointless.. The pace he was scoring .. he was just making sure.. Pakistan lose as near the target as possible.. with him top scoring.... so that everyone would think he is some kind of Hero....

You play to win .. You dont play to stop, and expect everyone around you to hit the shots..


The day I lost confidence in Misbah was when he said Farhat cannot be dropped because he scored a fifty against Afghanistan...

For God's sake, is Afghanistan the new benchmark for Misbah and his side?

And why is it losing the semifinal was whole team's fault.. ?

When the whole team won .. I saw Misbah being hailed as the best captain ever.. No one said it was Ajmal who won the match or Rehman who bowled his team to victory.. It was all raving about the captain...

Its simple really. If Misbah wins one game for Pakistan on his instincts alone .. I would back him..

Everything is done on a platter for him.. All he has to do is tuk tuk and pretend to be holding one end up ... while increasing his inflated average...

To be honest even Abdul Razzaq has achieved better than Misbah..

But I dont mind the blind optimism we have on Misbah.. He should be leading the test side.. without doubt.. to have him in the ODI side.. is simply making a mockery out the team..

Sooner or later time will tell if it was the right decision. Till then, Good luck Misbah and Pakistan cricket...
Top analysis, spot on!

but poster like shahrukh619 will not going to feel shame he is love of Misbah, if he score 10 ducks and given away lots of runs he still back him and still say you truely champion man your ducks simply amazing, your simply made a record of 10 ducks no one even done before and your captaincy that given away lots runs makes awesome for the team that earn lost of defeats.
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Old 20th February 2012, 10:32
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Misbah-ul-Haq, slowest ODI player of the year.

The W/L ratio is good, but you have to take into account that a good part of those wins came against under-par teams.
if Afridi was the captain, i bet most you would had gone crazy about it, but now that these wins came under Misbah, people just want to ignore it, and bash the poor guy
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Old 20th February 2012, 10:33
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Top analysis, spot on!

but poster like shahrukh619 will not going to feel shame he is love of Misbah, if he score 10 ducks and given away lots of runs he still back him and still say you truely champion man your ducks simply amazing, your simply made a record of 10 ducks no one even done before and your captaincy that given away lots runs makes awesome for the team that earn lost of defeats.
when he scores 2 concecutive ducks then talk............

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If Misbah wins one game for Pakistan on his instincts alone .. I would back him..
Because of your and others blind hate, many of you forget about the games Misbah wins, and only look at his losses..... THere are many games that he won on his own, but there is no point in showing it to you, because Haters gona hate

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Old 20th February 2012, 10:42
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when he scores 2 concecutive ducks then talk............
Im saying IF............. read the coment first!

Toh captaincy kya tum karo gye kya! his captaincy has been poor in the ODI series hence that team doesnt played againt hight quality team in the last year!

And this will bound to happend!
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Old 20th February 2012, 10:45
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Poor captaincy , yeah thats why we were able to defeat the world runner ups 4-1


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And this will bound to happend!
It's sad to see that some people wish for Misbah to faill.. so called Pak cricket fans..
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Old 20th February 2012, 10:47
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Because of your and others blind hate, many of you forget about the games Misbah wins, and only look at his losses..... THere are many games that he won on his own, but there is no point in showing it to you, because Haters gona hate
Thats tells the story of Misbah playing against under-par teams makes him feel so good!

You truely blinder as lover of Misbah...........keep loving him!
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Old 20th February 2012, 10:49
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Poor captaincy , yeah thats why we were able to defeat the world runner ups 4-1




It's sad to see that some people wish for Misbah to faill.. so called Pak cricket fans..
I don't think someone who is a failure AT ODI level can fail more...

Forget his wins against Afghanistan Ireland and Bangladesh for a minute...

And tell me ... Which part of his captaincy you like best so far in the 3 ODI's we have played so far...

What is one superb bit of captaincy that stands out?
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Old 20th February 2012, 10:50
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Poor captaincy , yeah thats why we were able to defeat the world runner ups 4-1


We win because of bowling, the batting as poor as ever!

It's sad to see that some people wish for Misbah to faill.. so called Pak cricket fans..
We win against Sri Lanka because of bowling, the batting as poor as ever!

Toh kya defensive field tum ne set kar rakhi thi?
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Old 20th February 2012, 10:54
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Interesting to see Hafeez have one the highest dot ball percentage, as well as one of the highest boundary percentage.

Which probably means he doesn't really have a middle game. It's either dot-balls or boundaries...
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Old 20th February 2012, 10:57
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Both Misbah and Ajmal deserved it. Both had a fantastic 2011.
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Old 20th February 2012, 10:58
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we win against sri lanka because of bowling, the batting as poor as ever!

Toh kya defensive field tum ne set kar rakhi thi?
C . A . P . T . A . I . N . C . Y

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Old 20th February 2012, 11:02
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C . A . P . T . A . I . N . C . Y

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Sri Lanka is nothing compare to England and we discussing England series not Sri Lanka so avoid you excuses for this series!
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Old 20th February 2012, 11:05
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this thread is about 2011 stats
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Old 20th February 2012, 11:07
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this thread is about 2011 stats
Wait wasn't 2011 the year when Misbah decided to go Ultra-defensive and remain not out at Mohali ?

Wasnt that the year he decided that he will play tuk tuk and wait for others to win the game by playing shots?

Btw.. i am still waiting for his ONE BIT of SUPERB captaincy you liked this series....
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Old 20th February 2012, 11:08
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Misbah should retire atleast from t20 cricket although i am not a fan of misbah's captaincy in the odi's but he has to stay for exactly 1 year then should retire from odi's aswell and hand over the captaincy to someone more balanced.The worst thing about misbah's captaincy is his failure to trust the youngsters and back under performers and ******'s like farhat,malik,gul,younis,cheema
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Old 20th February 2012, 11:11
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when he scores 2 concecutive ducks then talk............



Because of your and others blind hate, many of you forget about the games Misbah wins, and only look at his losses..... THere are many games that he won on his own, but there is no point in showing it to you, because Haters gona hate
Keep loving him and dream on...

Misbah is not a good captain... He is not a good cricketer...

He has brought shame to our nation... You, my friend, are what we refer to as fair weather fans... Blind lovers...

You, unfortunately, do not want to develop a team and are not willing to rebuild...

I fail to understand why people love Misbah... I simply fail to...

He lost us the semi-final of the world cup single handedly...

Pathetic batsman... worse captain...

Shame on Misbah and i feel sorry for all Misbah lovers... I really do...
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Old 20th February 2012, 11:11
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this thread is about 2011 stats
Is that why you keep talking about his captaincy? Misbah has failed as an ODI batsman with his pathetic SR of 67. Horrible strike rate for a player. Phattu batsman who never looks to win games.
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Old 20th February 2012, 11:13
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this thread is about 2011 stats
Tell us what his done better then a tuk tuk and defensive field-setteing?
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Old 20th February 2012, 11:20
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Keep loving him and dream on...

Misbah is not a good captain... He is not a good cricketer...

He has brought shame to our nation... You, my friend, are what we refer to as fair weather fans... Blind lovers...

You, unfortunately, do not want to develop a team and are not willing to rebuild...

I fail to understand why people love Misbah... I simply fail to...

He lost us the semi-final of the world cup single handedly...

Pathetic batsman... worse captain...

Shame on Misbah and i feel sorry for all Misbah lovers... I really do...
He is a love of Misbah he had no facts about his role in the team!

Agar tumharey pass himmat hai toh facts batao warna chup ho jaao aur apni bogiyaan apne pass rakho!

Becuase here is million poeple want him to resign as LOI captain!
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Old 20th February 2012, 11:33
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all you guys have blind hate for Misbah nothing else........... Only a fool would want Misbah to resign..

The OP shows why Misbah is still needed
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Old 20th February 2012, 11:39
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all you guys have blind hate for Misbah nothing else........... Only a fool would want Misbah to resign..

The OP shows why Misbah is still needed
You have no answer of our questions! tell us the anwers first then talk!

In Test cricket he should continue as captain and only needed in Test cricket!

But LOI cricket he has to resign becuase we are 3-0 down against quality opposition like England!
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Old 20th February 2012, 11:46
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all you guys have blind hate for Misbah nothing else........... Only a fool would want Misbah to resign..

The OP shows why Misbah is still needed
Misbah is a phattu who cost us the World Cup against India. Ask any Indian fan who was the player that gave them the semi, go do it.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc_cric...iew=commentary

Misbah came into bat when the RRR was 6.07 and instead of batting at a reasonable strike rate (85+ given the circumstances) he took 30 deliveries to get to 10 runs. That is a horrendous, abmysal, horrible and pathetic SR of 33. Even back in the 1950's players would call this slow.

This phattu approach caused Umar Akmal to be under immense pressure and he lost his wicket. If Misbah had at least rotated strike we would have still had Akmal. Instead he kept tuk tuking and the RRR went up every ball. Remember, he came in with the rate at a resonable 6.07, but by the time Misbah made 10 the rate had jumped to 7.66, completely unacceptable batting.

He reached 17 in 42 balls (SR of 40 ) and by this time the game was long lost with a very high RRR.

Excerpt from the cricinfo commentary:

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"Someone forgot to tell Misbah-ul-Haq that he is playing in the semi-final of the world cup ODI. He's got the mindset of trying to save a test match in the final session of the fifth day." Indeed Doug, looks like he's playing for the draw. Making up for the drop catch earlier that's for sure.
Even the cricinfo commentators were laughing at Misbah!

So stop spreading your nonsense all over the forums, Shahrukh.
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Old 20th February 2012, 11:56
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Old 20th February 2012, 12:11
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why you ignore Younis Khan, Gul and Afridi's performance???
Afridi was the reason.The match was fixed. No way India was going to lose
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Among those who scored 700-plus ODI runs, Misbah was the only one with a strike rate of less than 70 - he scored at 67.59 per 100 balls. Next in line was Sangakkara, with a strike rate of 70.68.
living up to our expectations Miss ball Haq...
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Old 20th February 2012, 12:26
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Buried in those stats - Taufeeq Umar and Azhar Ali were the most consistent partnership for Pakistan. Should they be our next opening pair?

I understand Taufeeq is not popular here. But where I rate Taufeeq over even Hafeez (as a batsman) is that once he gets in, he knows how to go on and make a big score. It's a skill Hafeez lacks, even if he is more attractive and perhaps even more technically proficient.
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Old 20th February 2012, 12:56
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To be fair whenever I remember Mohali 2011, I just want to punch him (Misbah) forever.

You will not accept it shahrukh619, but he was the biggest reason of our defeat in that game.

I'm not sure how old you were when 1996 Quarter Final was played but all those who cried that night wanted revenge of 1996 Quarter whenever we meet them again in WC knockout and Mohali 2011 was our best chance but Misbah sold the semi final to India.
get a life it was GULL and ur AFRIDI
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Old 20th February 2012, 13:35
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Old 20th February 2012, 14:08
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Buried in those stats - Taufeeq Umar and Azhar Ali were the most consistent partnership for Pakistan. Should they be our next opening pair?

I understand Taufeeq is not popular here. But where I rate Taufeeq over even Hafeez (as a batsman) is that once he gets in, he knows how to go on and make a big score. It's a skill Hafeez lacks, even if he is more attractive and perhaps even more technically proficient.
Solid point there.
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Old 20th February 2012, 14:22
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lol this has become a Misbah bashing thread...
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Old 20th February 2012, 14:37
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Old 20th February 2012, 16:24
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I think these stats would make more sense if some perspective from the game situation was provided.
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