Was Pakistan's defeat to India on 18th March 2012 their most humiliating one?

[Zulqarnain_Mohammad]

Was Pakistan's 18th March 2012 defeat versus India the most humiliating one?......I mean What an incredible win for India against Pakistan....All hail Virat Kohli...... Pakistan was slapped,beaten and butchered by India....Pakistani "mighty" bowling attack was torn apart by powerful Indian batting line-up.....watched the faces of poor Pakistani players when Virat was batting....they all were mum and shell-shocked.....they all were waiting for the match to get over.....Really India has hit Pakistan where it hurts most.......I am sure yesterday's defeat must have deeply hurt every Pakistani......a humiliating defeat

[fusebulb]

Originally Posted by Zulqarnain_Mohammad Was Pakistan's 18th March 2012 defeat versus India the most humiliating one?......I mean What an incredible win for India against Pakistan....All hail Virat Kohli...... Pakistan was slapped,beaten and butchered by India....Pakistani "mighty" bowling attack was torn apart by powerful Indian batting line-up.....watched the faces of poor Pakistani players when Virat was batting....they all were mum and shell-shocked.....they all were waiting for the match to get over.....Really India has hit Pakistan where it hurts most.......I am sure yesterday's defeat must have deeply hurt every Pakistani......a humiliating defeat

I think even you have a very good knack of hurting Pakistani's where it hurts the most...!!!

[liaqat]

ummm funny thing is it didnt hurt as much as i though it would,,

maybe if he does it in the final again it will,,

kohli's innings remindd me of a innings ijaz ahmed played at lahore in 1997-98 where he chased down 223 odd in 23-25 overs,

[JibranAnsari]

You wish ! if anything it has determined us more to thrash you in the final.

[Blitz]

No.

1. Dead rubber.

2. Failing to chase 130 odd has no substitute.

[Iffitheking]

Originally Posted by Zulqarnain_Mohammad Was Pakistan's 18th March 2012 defeat versus India the most humiliating one?......I mean What an incredible win for India against Pakistan....All hail Virat Kohli...... Pakistan was slapped,beaten and butchered by India....Pakistani "mighty" bowling attack was torn apart by powerful Indian batting line-up.....watched the faces of poor Pakistani players when Virat was batting....they all were mum and shell-shocked.....they all were waiting for the match to get over.....Really India has hit Pakistan where it hurts most.......I am sure yesterday's defeat must have deeply hurt every Pakistani......a humiliating defeat

yes it tops with the match, when Paksitan bowled out by west indies on 47 runs back in 90s

[fusebulb]

Originally Posted by JibranAnsari You wish ! if anything it has determined us more to thrash you in the final.

I don't think that is happening ... the pakistani bowlers still must be shaking after the thrashing ....

And the batsmen will have added pressure of scoring big ... bcoz they now know that whatever we score may not be enuf....!!!

[shokz1408]

No I wouldnt say that. Im surprised that we actually put up a score in excess of 300. But the ease in which india chased it down was disheartening.

[Shayan]

Not for me. Not sure why, maybe it's just because i'm getting old

Mohali certainly hurt at the time, as did the loss at Karachi in 2004 where we almost chased 350. In fact all 3 losses in that series were very disappointing.

[JibranAnsari]

Originally Posted by fusebulb I don't think that is happening ... the pakistani bowlers still must be shaking after the thrashing .... And the batsmen will have added pressure of scoring big ... bcoz they now know that whatever we score may not be enuf....!!!

It is not that everyday the same pakistani team turns up, I think we were lucky that we got thrashed in the dead rubber for us. get ready for some real cricket in the final ( no credit taken from the awesome kohli)

[MVP26]

Its funny how all these low post accounts of indians are emerging

[madaboutcricket]

Originally Posted by Blitz No. 1. Dead rubber. 2. Failing to chase 130 odd has no substitute.

lol. It was an important game for India and for pakistan, they had to make sure India did not get bonus point to qualify for the finals. Now you are trying to say that Pakistan did not put their 100% to win the game as it is a dead rubber according to you. lol at your excuse.

[shahrukh619]

Originally Posted by Zulqarnain_Mohammad Was Pakistan's 18th March 2012 defeat versus India the most humiliating one?......I mean What an incredible win for India against Pakistan....All hail Virat Kohli...... Pakistan was slapped,beaten and butchered by India....Pakistani "mighty" bowling attack was torn apart by powerful Indian batting line-up.....watched the faces of poor Pakistani players when Virat was batting....they all were mum and shell-shocked.....they all were waiting for the match to get over.....Really India has hit Pakistan where it hurts most.......I am sure yesterday's defeat must have deeply hurt every Pakistani......a humiliating defeat

are you from Pakistan? Which city are you from if so? Because you're Signature is typically Indian....

No that was not humiliating.... Just because one team chases down 300+ doesn't mean it's a humiliating defeat for the opposition. Remember the 2008 Asia Cup game in Karachi.... Pakistan defeated India by chasing 300+ thx to Younis Khan. Was that Humiliating for India?

India losing to Bangladesh was humiliating for India

[Usman]

Not really. There was nothing other than pride riding on the match and in any case, I am so pleased that a batting line-up which I genuinely thought against any attack in the world could only limp to 250 actually lept to 330.

Yes Kohli played a blinder and our bowlers were found wanting, but what gave comfort was the fact that Ajmal still had the edge above all their batters but unfortunately had very little support. Plus, now we know not to play Wahab for the big one - Ind v Pak the final.

[ElRaja]

Originally Posted by madaboutcricket lol. It was an important game for India and for pakistan, they had to make sure India did not get bonus point to qualify for the finals. Now you are trying to say that Pakistan did not put their 100% to win the game as it is a dead rubber according to you. lol at your excuse.

nope, just because a dead rubber is less important to fans does not mean the players werent giving 100%, they got shell shocked and confused by kohlis calmness in the chase more than anything.

obv i hate losing to india, but the world cup 11 loss is still the worse because of the way we lost it and the occasion itself. it doesnt hurt as much when you know you deserved to lose as opposed to dropping catches wily nilly in the semi of a WC.

[Usman]

Originally Posted by madaboutcricket lol. It was an important game for India and for pakistan, they had to make sure India did not get bonus point to qualify for the finals. Now you are trying to say that Pakistan did not put their 100% to win the game as it is a dead rubber according to you. lol at your excuse.

To answer for that poster, I would say that its not that Pakistan didn't try their best - they tried absolutely everything under the sun - but that once 330 had been posted, we were for all intents and purposes through to the final. Because of that, the game wasn't heartbreaking, like say for example how Mohalli was.

As I said in my other post, there were many positives for Pak and so all is not lost.

[par]

Originally Posted by Blitz No. 1. Dead rubber. 2. Failing to chase 130 odd has no substitute.

I don't know why you are repeating this again and again. As I said in another thread it was in no way a dead rubber.

[Cricfan4eva]

I think it is this but then again Mohali comes close as well

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[CalculatedRisk]

I don't know about the biggest defeat but I've never seen Pak bowlers getting humiliated so badly. They were completely thrashed disdainfully.

[Savak]

Pakistan always boasts about having the superior bowling line up so yes to receive that kind of thrashing was humiliating indeed.

[Dr_Bassim]

Any defeat hurts against India.

Simple as.

Dead or no dead rubber.

All I am hoping for, and most Pakistanis are hoping for is that we somehow win the final, to shut the Indians up.

[Runner Up]

Last time India played in Pakistan in Asia Cup they won by chasing more than 300 runs thanks to brilliant inning by Raina. In second match India scored more than 300 runs and Pakistan chased down thanks to Nasir Jamshed, Misbah and Younis Khan. I hope same will happen this time and saat khoon maaf

[TigerJat]

This wasn't the worst, Mohali was much worse in my book. It hurt a lot more too.

But this was bad from the perspective that if you score 329 in an ODI, you should win.

It was bad because we should've won this game only if we had made the right decisions regarding the bowling. Picking Riaz because he had one good game against India last year, and hasn't done anything since is not a very smart thing to do.

Bad loss nevertheless...

[Cricfan4eva]

Originally Posted by CalculatedRisk I don't know about the biggest defeat but I've never seen Pak bowlers getting humiliated so badly. They were completely thrashed disdainfully.

You might haven't seen the Karachi ODI in 2004 then.

[Runner Up]

Aussies had done it in Australia and that too against Wasim and Waqar. I don't remember which match it was but they were hammered by Aussies especially that guy who has been banned by Australia, Kya naam tha yaar uska?

[Runner Up]

By the way I am sure OP is Indian right?

[Legend Killer]

This match was just a dead rubber and had no impact whatsoever on the tournament for us. So why exactly should this loss hurt us?

[Namak_Halaal]

Originally Posted by TigerJat This wasn't the worst, Mohali was much worse in my book. It hurt a lot more too. But this was bad from the perspective that if you score 329 in an ODI, you should win. It was bad because we should've won this game only if we had made the right decisions regarding the bowling. Picking Riaz because he had one good game against India last year, and hasn't done anything since is not a very smart thing to do. Bad loss nevertheless...

This.

[violet_may]

^^^
Yes, he/she is an Indian poster.

Personally, Mohali was the worst tbh. It was at the WC stage.

[Blitz]

Originally Posted by violet_may ^^^ Yes, he/she is an Indian poster. Personally, Mohali was the worst tbh. It was at the WC stage.

......and what about Dr_Bassim

[Dr_Bassim]

Originally Posted by Blitz ......and what about Dr_Bassim

You should keep worrying about me.

But you will never find any iota of proof that I am Indian : )

[Zaz]

Nope, a humilaiting one wouldve been in a final somewhere where we conceded a massive score and then got proceeded to get bowled out for a measly total

[Legal Eye]

Humiliating would be a match that mattered. This didn't matter (points wise).

[hasanmehmoodkhan]

not really we got out done by some masterclass batting by virat, nothing more we could of done

[ddss]

Not even close, chasing 300 seems like chasing 200 on these pitches.

[hasanmehmoodkhan]

Originally Posted by ddss Not even close, chasing 300 seems like chasing 200 on these pitches.

ya lol a pitch were hafeez can make a century must be a pure cement pitch lol

[hashmist]

LOL at all the Pakistani posters trying to downplay the deflating loss. For me it was downright demoralizing to watch Kohli and Co chase it down so easily, since bowling is supposedly our strength. But for some reason our bowlers just mentally lose it against India. Test of nerves I guess, but can't remember last time we bundled India out ever since the 2 Ws retired. Even Amir got smacked by Bhajji in the last over two years ago.

Praying for a diff result on Thursday but doubt anything can change this fast. Esp since coaches who know the pulse of our bowlers, like Aaqib and Vicky are not even there to snap them out of it. DW is too new to know the bowlers well enough to rally them after such a spanking. Kohli just thoroughly exposed our over-rated bowling (with the exception of Ajmal) yesterday.

[x2zee123]

no it didnt hurt that much and it wasnt even humiliting cuz it was dead track and we had no amir or asif. the most humiliting and hurting was sydney and hussey t20 ownage.

[*sallu*]

It didn't hurt as much, once we made 330 we were more or less assured a place in the finals, so 2nd innings was a bit of a dead rubber.

Secondly, India batted superbly, Virat Kohli played a blinder, you tend to feel humiliated when you play badly, but this was more a case of the opposition outclassing you.

And yes, theres a final left, so the chance for redemption remains.

It hurt, but other defeats against India have hurt much more.

[bmwduran]

Originally Posted by Zulqarnain_Mohammad Was Pakistan's 18th March 2012 defeat versus India the most humiliating one?......I mean What an incredible win for India against Pakistan....All hail Virat Kohli...... Pakistan was slapped,beaten and butchered by India....Pakistani "mighty" bowling attack was torn apart by powerful Indian batting line-up.....watched the faces of poor Pakistani players when Virat was batting....they all were mum and shell-shocked.....they all were waiting for the match to get over.....Really India has hit Pakistan where it hurts most.......I am sure yesterday's defeat must have deeply hurt every Pakistani......a humiliating defeat

nope, this Pakistani team is not as talented as the ones before it, so I expect this team to score 330 and still lose, but, the teams of 90s used to lose from winning situations rarely and those were most umiliating defeats, for example, 99 WC final,

[madaboutcricket]

Originally Posted by x2zee123 no it didnt hurt that much and it wasnt even humiliting cuz it was dead track and we had no amir or asif. the most humiliting and hurting was sydney and hussey t20 ownage.

lol at your excuse. btw you were missing waqar and wasim as well. so gul, cheema and riaz are useless?

[x2zee123]

Originally Posted by madaboutcricket lol at your excuse. btw you were missing waqar and wasim as well. so gul, cheema and riaz are useless?

yes they always have been preety useless to me except gul in t20

[SID_ZONE]

The most humiliating defeat must be Centurion for being unable to defend a score of 274 with the pace trio of Wasim, Waqar and Shoaib in the team.

[Moh@n]

Originally Posted by bmwduran nope, this Pakistani team is not as talented as the ones before it, so I expect this team to score 330 and still lose, but, the teams of 90s used to lose from winning situations rarely and those were most umiliating defeats, for example, 99 WC final,

Eh? At what stage were you in a winning position in the 99 WC final?

[withlovefrom vizag]

Originally Posted by MVP26 Its funny how all these low post accounts of indians are emerging

wat is funny abt it??

[withlovefrom vizag]

PAK lost to IND in t20 wc 2009 warm up game,British Pakistanis must have find it hard to digest coz IND won the match so easily infront of many Indians in the stadium.

[Areesh]

How is the match where Pakistan had an opening stand of 224 runs is the most humiliating defeat against India?

[Anfield]

warm up game? ok... what's next? Hong Kong Sixes? double wicket tournament?


1) 96 QF. We were clearly a better side.
2) 2003 Centurion- Posted a good score but couldn't defend with such a strong bowling line up. well.. two of the bowlers were at the end of their career but should have defended it. Although in that wc momentum was w/ India. They were playing well.
3) 2011 Mohali. India was the better team.

[kerala porotta]

Originally Posted by Anfield warm up game? ok... what's next? Hong Kong Sixes? double wicket tournament? 1) 96 QF. We were clearly a better side. 2) 2003 Centurion- Posted a good score but couldn't defend with such a strong bowling line up. well.. two of the bowlers were at the end of their career but should have defended it. Although in that wc momentum was w/ India. They were playing well. 3) 2011 Mohali. India was the better team.

I guess 96 must have hurt the most considering you were a top side then and you got off to flying start in the QF as well... It was pakistans game to loose and you guys lost it...

03 and 11 we were better team coming into the tournament....

[the Great Khan]

No 96 was the worst..other losses have either been coz india were better or dead rubbers..96 was a great side and we lost to the trundler kings

[bmwduran]

Originally Posted by kerala porotta I guess 96 must have hurt the most considering you were a top side then and you got off to flying start in the QF as well... It was pakistans game to loose and you guys lost it... 03 and 11 we were better team coming into the tournament....

03 Pak was still better, Pak had beaten Australia in their own backyard in an ODI series, and that too was the Ponting's greatest 11,

[bmwduran]

Originally Posted by Moh@n Eh? At what stage were you in a winning position in the 99 WC final?

what i the defiiiton of humiliation for you? to be in a strong position and then lose the match? it was humiliating from the word get go, i think now you may understand, in a WC final where billions watching and your team gets out for 125 odd and the other team scores those runs within 20 overs, what else can be more humiliating then that, who was your english teacher?

[bmwduran]

and this post is a complete fail, humiliating is the one whic is one sided, this match was not one sided,

[kerala porotta]

Originally Posted by bmwduran 03 Pak was still better, Pak had beaten Australia in their own backyard in an ODI series, and that too was the Ponting's greatest 11,

That was the best of 3 LOIS...but prior to that i guess your team were not performing well???? Indian had won natwest finals just before the tournament and we were a young side

[Namak_Halaal]

Originally Posted by Areesh How is the match where Pakistan had an opening stand of 224 runs is the most humiliating defeat against India?

I was disappointed by the loss, not humiliated by the loss.

[Zulqarnain_Mohammad]

surprised to see many posters here calling the match a dead rubber......had India scored a bonus point in that match they would have been comfortably placed in the final.......so it was an important match for both India and Pakistan

[Runner Up]

The most humiliating defeat is a Rank 9 team beat the World Champions. Poor Indians these days rely others to win in order to enter in the final

This goes to to my Indian friend who created this thread