Pakistan T20 league won't be a copy of IPL: Ashraf

[Amar786]

Karachi: Pakistan Cricket Board was keen on attracting investment from the Indian market for its planned Twenty20 league but it would not be "an exact model" of the IPL, its chief Zaka Ashraf said.

Asked if the PCB's proposed league would be a copy of the highly successful Indian Premier League, Ashraf said, "This is a wrong impression. We are working on delivering a innovative and exciting PPL but it would not be on the exact model of the IPL."

Ashraf said that Indian broadcasting company Nimbus was one of the several companies who are interested in becoming a part of Pakistan's Twenty20 league.

"Nimbus made a presentation regarding the league earlier this month. There are a few other companies in the picture as well," he said.

Meanwhile, two more companies -- Ten Sports and one based in United Kingdom -- made presentations to the Board on the league proposed to start this year.

Sources said of the two presentations, the Board officials were not very impressed with the one by the UK based company.

"We have had several presentations and many people are promising to deliver a lot but we have to ensure the model we follow is viable for us financially and secondly it allows us to tap the international market," one PCB official who declined to be named told PTI.

Ashraf made it clear that while the Board wanted the participation of foreign players in its Twenty20 league, the franchises would have to purchase them under a set financial model.

He also said that the planned Twenty20 league may not be named the Pakistan Premier League.

"We are not going to call it Pakistan Premier League as some people have been suggesting for quite some time now. We are still in the process of finalising a name that is good enough for what we hope will be an innovative and exciting league," he said.

[Down2Earth]

just name it "the pakistani tsunami"

T20 cricket is a format of the game, how could it be copied? It's the same irrespective of which country it's played it... Cross bat slogging on dead tracks.

[randompakistani]

I hope tensports get the rights for the league, please no Geo super, please no!

[khalil1986]

More than anything this will be excellent for our domestic players as they will be a lot more financially secure and can than just concentrate on their real cricket and not worry about having enough to put on the table.

[PIE_CHUCKER]

If its not copied then atleast come up with a original new name...

PPL (DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, how original)

[PIE_CHUCKER]

Originally Posted by khalil1986 More than anything this will be excellent for our domestic players as they will be a lot more financially secure and can than just concentrate on their real cricket and not worry about having enough to put on the table.

Thats a bit of a daft comment...

What about the rest of us??? So only cricketers have to worry about putting food on the table?

[2hands]

how is it going to be different?

[PIE_CHUCKER]

Originally Posted by PIE_CHUCKER If its not copied then atleast come up with a original new name... PPL (DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, how original)

Oooops my bad...

Didnt read the full article...they dont plan to call it PPL...

Well done Zaka!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Asif321]

it has to b telecasted around the world ... if only geo super telecasts then this will b big flop show

[khalil1986]

Originally Posted by PIE_CHUCKER Thats a bit of a daft comment... What about the rest of us??? So only cricketers have to worry about putting food on the table?

Insecure much? It's a cricketers forum and we are discussing cricket.

[jusarrived]

Originally Posted by khalil1986 More than anything this will be excellent for our domestic players as they will be a lot more financially secure and can than just concentrate on their real cricket and not worry about having enough to put on the table.

+1

Completely agree . A little bit of fame & money for these players wont hurt anyone .

[khalil1986]

Originally Posted by jusarrived +1 Completely agree . A little bit of fame & money for these players wont hurt anyone .

Not concerned with fame, won't take long for these guys to big heads however the money would help we have lost many a player to the corrupt system that is the PCB

The likes of Jamshed Ahmed come to mind and for players like him it will be an excellent opportunity.

[IgnitedMind]

Would like to know what are they doing to keep it original ?

[style_guru]

Originally Posted by navroks123 Would like to know what are they doing to keep it original ?

Have no foreign players

[AccidentallyOnPurpose]

Whats their left not to copy?

[AccidentallyOnPurpose]

Originally Posted by style_guru Have no foreign players

Then it'll be another FasalBank T20 Cup

[jusarrived]

Originally Posted by khalil1986 Not concerned with fame, won't take long for these guys to big heads however the money would help we have lost many a player to the corrupt system that is the PCB The likes of Jamshed Ahmed come to mind and for players like him it will be an excellent opportunity.

offcourse there is a flipside to it , but more positives than negatives . For such a cricket obsessed region its unfair that only 25-30 players can make a decent living out of it . Even in India there players who even after having played 20 years of domestic cricket where not financially secure . I guess the same in Pakistan as well , the league should help such players .

[style_guru]

Originally Posted by AccidentallyOnPurpose Then it'll be another FasalBank T20 Cup

Ok. Then may be by having 8 foreign players

[khalil1986]

Originally Posted by jusarrived offcourse there is a flipside to it , but more positives than negatives . For such a cricket obsessed region its unfair that only 25-30 players can make a decent living out of it . Even in India there players who even after having played 20 years of domestic cricket where not financially secure . I guess the same in Pakistan as well , the league should help such players .

Yep im not the biggest fan of these 20-20 leagues however these are fantastic opportunities for cricketers to fill their pockets :vinay :jadeja

[Senman]

PCB should cater to Pakistani audience first then they can fine tune to International audience. IMHO once the novelty goes off no international audience will be interested in domestic competition except may be when their favorite players play.

[Pete Rose]

Originally Posted by navroks123 Would like to know what are they doing to keep it original ?

underarm delivery mandatory

[LegCutter]

Originally Posted by PIE_CHUCKER If its not copied then atleast come up with a original new name... PPL (DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, how original)

Another case of just reading the headline and then making the comment, and then reading the whole article. You did apologize but you were so very swift to criticize in the first place it was as if you were actually waiting for the opportunity.

Originally Posted by PIE_CHUCKER Thats a bit of a daft comment... What about the rest of us??? So only cricketers have to worry about putting food on the table?

Seeing as he is the chairman of the PCB and not the President of Pakistan, we cannot blame him for the poverty in Pakistan. Zaka Ashraf has no responsibility to give me three meals a day or cater to my financial needs. He has chosen to address the financial issues of the cricketers, who are his responsibilty, and to whom the previous regimes have failed to address, which is brilliant on Zaka Ashraf's part. And so far, these are not being empty words, he is actually taking measures to and acting upon his words, for which he has my utmost respect.

Pie Chucker, please if you're criticizing the words of someone, atleast try to not so blindly biased and hateful next time.

[par]

Most of the PPers would suggest these to make it a better league:

No cheerleaders
No more than two weeks long
No retired overseas players
No shortened boundaries
No brand names in commentary
Ad-free if possible
Local players should play like international players
DRS should be there
No big money for the players (spoils them)

[Pete Rose]

Originally Posted by par Most of the PPers would suggest these to make it a better league: No cheerleaders No more than two weeks long No retired overseas players No shortened boundaries No brand names in commentary Ad-free if possible Local players should play like international players DRS should be there No big money for the players (spoils them)

kabaddi?

[style_guru]

Originally Posted by Pete Rose kabaddi?

Kushti may be?

[ElRaja]

i have one demand on which my interest in the ppl would hinge, majority of final XI must be local players playing for local teams. not the current franchise model where franchises bid from players all over the country, and the team names and locations are fairly inconsequential.

[par]

Originally Posted by ElRaja i have one demand on which my interest in the ppl would hinge, majority of final XI must be local players playing for local teams. not the current franchise model where franchises bid from players all over the country, and the team names and locations are fairly inconsequential.

That is a good suggestion. It will bring more loyal fans to the teams.

[style_guru]

Originally Posted by ElRaja i have one demand on which my interest in the ppl would hinge, majority of final XI must be local players playing for local teams. not the current franchise model where franchises bid from players all over the country, and the team names and locations are fairly inconsequential.

Initially even I had these suggestion for the IPL organisers. But since such leagues are just money spinners, I bet none of these will be implemented.

[ElRaja]

Originally Posted by style_guru Initially even I had these suggestion for the IPL organisers. But since such leagues are just money spinners, I bet none of these will be implemented.

if that is indeed the case, there would be little real interest apart from seeing the t20 development of young talented players as far as im concerned.

[madaboutcricket]

So PCB is going to make millions of dollars through their T20 league. Anyone here think this Pakistani league will be more financially successful than BPL? I heard BCB made 50+million dollars through BPL.

[ElRaja]

Originally Posted by madaboutcricket So PCB is going to make millions of dollars through their T20 league. Anyone here think this Pakistani league will be more financially successful than BPL? I heard BCB made 50+million dollars through BPL.

the biggest question comes down to the administration of the tournament, pakistan has the potential to create a very valuable league, certainly more than the bpl if managed correctly, however this being pakistan that is a huge if.

[madaboutcricket]

Originally Posted by ElRaja the biggest question comes down to the administration of the tournament, pakistan has the potential to create a very valuable league, certainly more than the bpl if managed correctly, however this being pakistan that is a huge if.

If International players are ready to travel to Pakistan, I am sure their league will be financially far better than BPL. Its not only administration, there is a big IF for International players particiapation as well. You cant make these kind of leagues successfull without having international players. otherwise it would be more like your fbt20 where players get paid 20 dollars per day.

[kamz]

i highly doubt, that GEO wont have a say in this. Solely based on the fact that they control all the data to perform valuations on cricket in Pakistan.

What I mean by data is that recently Ernst & Young were approached by PCB to identify any new revenue streams through cricket matches. All of the ad revenue data was sole property of GEO and EY were not allowed to work on the data apart from GEO offices.

Additionally they also had data on revenue driven through the boundary boards plus TRP and funds driven through each player.

The problem is that why is GEO acting as a parent organisation of PCB when their line of interest is television and media

[bala977]

For gods sake, can things be kept confidential Mr. Chairman? Why would you name Nimbus or Ten sports explicitly? can't you make all thee announcements once a formal agreement has been made? That is what most rational people would do ....

[madaboutcricket]

Originally Posted by bala977 For gods sake, can things be kept confidential Mr. Chairman? Why would you name Nimbus or Ten sports explicitly? can't you make all thee announcements once a formal agreement has been made? That is what most rational people would do ....

He wants whole world to know that there is a lot of demand for PPL or whatever the name that they are going to call.

[bala977]

Originally Posted by madaboutcricket He wants whole world to know that there is a lot of demand for PPL or whatever the name that they are going to call.

Which is fine - he can still do that by vaguely saying "Indian company", "leading sports management" firm etc. rather than naming them.

I guess business is done differently in Pakistan ....

[madaboutcricket]

Originally Posted by bala977 Which is fine - he can still do that by vaguely saying "Indian company", "leading sports management" firm etc. rather than naming them. I guess business is done differently in Pakistan ....

now sure what is Indian company doing in Pakistan..

[Faisalabad]

i think when people say we are copying or not copying the 'IPL'. IPL is not original, it has been modelled on the american model..its just a model on how you run a sports league, closed league in this case. what is a big deal? PCB can keep it unique perhaps by taking steps as suggested above such as no cheerleaders, less gimmicky stuff like citi moment of success and karbonn kamal catch n whatnot... and one thing it will defo be different from IPL the bollywood side of things.

so if any1 starts a frenchise league tomorrow based on closed league format will be branded as copying IPL? Sri Lalit Modi ji did study in america to pick up those ideas...its just a format good when starting from scratch as it gives everyone a fair chance at having a go at it...which in open league doesnt always happen.

[someone21]

So it will said not be a copy. But an inspiration. And we all know what inspiration is like, just ask Bollywood on how they justify themselves as just inspiring from English movies.

[Canistani Hero]

Admirable approach from Zaka Ashraf.

[Cricfan4eva]

I don't get this 'copy' stuff really.

IPL as such isn't an innovation. T20 was already a format of the game and league system are there in other sports as well.

The only things they could copy from IPL are:

4 international player rule.
Karbonn Kamaal/DLF Sixer/Citi Moment of success -
Time out and other ridiculous awards in Presentation ceremony.

Thats about it.

[A.M.]

new ideas should certainly be implemented in this league rather than taking ideas from IPL

[tahir_dj]

PSL??? (Pakistan Super League)

[Express Pace]

Originally Posted by tahir_dj PSL??? (Pakistan Super League)

Nice, I like it.

[HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR]

i love this ashraf guy, he is quite stubborn, and looks like a true pakistan cricket fan

'innovative', i like how it sounds

[Ironcat]

Originally Posted by Cricfan4eva I don't get this 'copy' stuff really. IPL as such isn't an innovation. T20 was already a format of the game and league system are there in other sports as well. The only things they could copy from IPL are: 4 international player rule. Karbonn Kamaal/DLF Sixer/Citi Moment of success - Time out and other ridiculous awards in Presentation ceremony. Thats about it.

You forgot:

2 months of overkill = 0-8.

[Typical Stroke]

Originally Posted by par Most of the PPers would suggest these to make it a better league: No cheerleaders No more than two weeks long No retired overseas players No shortened boundaries No brand names in commentary Ad-free if possible Local players should play like international players DRS should be there No big money for the players (spoils them)

r u kidding?

[Cricfan4eva]

Originally Posted by Ironcat You forgot: 2 months of overkill = 0-8.

No IPL wasn't the reason we lost 0-8. It was due to the seniors failure that we lost so badly. IPL has been there since 2008.

Did you have PPL when you lost 0-9 in Australia?

[PakPrince]

Originally Posted by Cricfan4eva I don't get this 'copy' stuff really. IPL as such isn't an innovation. T20 was already a format of the game and league system are there in other sports as well. The only things they could copy from IPL are: 4 international player rule. Karbonn Kamaal/DLF Sixer/Citi Moment of success - Time out and other ridiculous awards in Presentation ceremony. Thats about it.

lol i remember last year in one of the few matches i managed to watch, sehwag was presented an award in the ceremony just for being present at the stadium.
It went something like first time he is at the ground since winning the WC

[Ironcat]

Originally Posted by Cricfan4eva No IPL wasn't the reason we lost 0-8. It was due to the seniors failure that we lost so badly. IPL has been there since 2008. Did you have PPL when you lost 0-9 in Australia?

If you had proper juniors spending less than half of their annual playing and prep time on something other than tamasha cricket, perhaps your seniors' failure wouldn't result in 0-8.

Like cancer, it takes its time to spread through your body.