'The Avengers' Indian Slum Scenes Draw Criticism

[shan]

While the superhero film has opened well in India, members of the Indian film industry and others have expressed dismay about its slum scenes depicting Kolkata.

NEW DELHI - The opening scenes of The Avengers - showing Hulk's alter ego Dr. Bruce Banner in hiding in Kolkata's slums helping cure lepers - has faced some criticism in India.
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“Kolkata has a rich culture and heritage, and a filmmaker should respect that. There are two scenes about India, and they only show slums," well-known Kolkata-based actor Rituparna Sengupta told the Hindustan Times. "It could have been done in better taste." The newspaper ran a story headlined, “Hulk's Slum Act Miffs Fans.”

“It is disturbing to see the murky underbelly of India in Hollywood films," added Bollywood actress Neha Dhupia. "But before pointing it out to the West, we need to make efforts to change their perception about us.”

The Indian slum scenes – recreated in New Mexico - have also attracted criticism from movie-goers quoted in the newspaper. “There is no reason to be happy about the Indian connection (in The Avengers). It has become a trend in the West to show Indian slums and a Westerner trying to help the poor here,” said a software professional, Nitin Bhatia. “When will Hollywood stop cashing in on the poverty here?” added a bank employee, Rishabh Bal.

While The Avengers has opened well to mostly positive reviews, leading newsmagazine Outlook pointed to a minor casting issue in its review of the film. “Never mind that the ragged Indian child shown in the Kolkata slums spoke to Bruce Banner in Hindi with a thick American accent,” it wrote.

As previously reported, The Avengers' Hindi dubbed version includes a specially recorded song, “Hello Andheron” (Hello Darkness), by Indian band Agnee.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...llywood-320792

[Namak_Halaal]

The reality is Hollywood cannot escape the poverty in India cos it's so widespread.

Why oh why are Indians hell-bent on covering up the truth behind India?

[Patriot]

You get slums shown in other countries as well and not just India. Brazil is another country country whose slums were made famous largely thanks to the film "City of God" (great film btw). Slums should be exposed so that respective governments are embarrassed are are therefore made to do something about them.

[ethan hunt]

Slumdog millionaire garnered a similar response from the indians, i wonder why the slums make them so uncomfortable when its part of life in india

[Zaz]

Why do a lot of indians get all upset when the underbelly of their cities is shown?

I guess theyd like only the glitz and glamour side to be potrayed to the world but if they dont like it why not do something about it other than moan?

[shan]

Originally Posted by Zaz Why do a lot of indians get all upset when the underbelly of their cities is shown? I guess theyd like only the glitz and glamour side to be potrayed to the world but if they dont like it why not do something about it other than moan?

To do that they themselfs make must of the movies outside India.

[saadibaba]

Touchy touchy....

[IgnitedMind]

LOl, a random news report...from the last week or so...my news feed in FB is filled with avengers..and I have around 700 to 800 indian friends in fb...that is 95% of my friends in fb..and never did I hear anything about....never there was news anywhere..so a random articles pops up..and people start generalizing !!!

People who celebrated slumdog's success outnumber the people who detested it by atleast 5 to 6 teams in India....

talk about generalizations..

[Ruri]

Forget that, it was a good movie, but it distinctly lacked one major thing.

More screen time for Gwyneth Paltrow's Pepper Potts. That's almost criminal that she was in there for only a few minutes in the entire movie. She's excellent! (And crazy beautiful!)

My girlfriend loved Mark Ruffalo though, I honestly thought she'd have liked Captain America over Hulk!

[Bilal7]

You have the IPL.
You have the slums.

In the same country, how?

[IgnitedMind]

^^^

Every Country has slums...India is still developing country...Why do some people want to see it with a prism of a developed country..and suddenly act as if people never knew India has slums..India always had slums...its the other side of India is what that is new to Indians and to the world...and that part of India is developing fast..and is dragging the middle class with it evident by change of middle class lives in India in last decade.....and India will continue to have slums and IPL and reliance all at the same time for the next 50 to 60 yrs..and hopefully with the extent of poverty decreasing each year..

[the Great Khan]

didnt they subsitute bangkok for mumbai in MI:5?

[insaan]

Some middle class Indians, and some in Bollywood have very low self esteem.

Some were confused whether to hate Slumdog Millionaire or to celebrate the Oscar success.

Same with Pather Panchali by Satyajit Ray. People protested the show of poverty, but when he won the Oscars he became a national hero.

They always want affirmation from the West to feel good about themselves.

Typical inferiority complex.

[Bilal7]

Problem that I have with India's economy is that the rich keep getting richer, while the poor keep getting poorer (sorry for the cliché). The middle-class is shrinking and to top it all of, the social issues are really harmful.

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by insaan Some middle class Indians, and some in Bollywood have very low self esteem. Some were confused whether to hate Slumdog Millionaire or to celebrate the Oscar success. Same with Pather Panchali by Satyajit Ray. People protested the show of poverty, but when he won the Oscars he became a national hero. They always want affirmation from the West to feel good about themselves. Typical inferiority complex.

Talk about yourself !!!!! If a certain random organizations says a word or two..do not equate with people....

Many movies have been made in India on evils in india..and there has been no major protest by anybody...

[Gattuso]

Originally Posted by Bilal7 Problem that I have with India's economy is that the rich keep getting richer, while the poor keep getting poorer (sorry for the cliché). The middle-class is shrinking and to top it all of, the social issues are really harmful.

Agree that the extreme poor remain poor in our system. But you can't be more wrong about the middle class.

http://www.mckinseyquarterly.com/Tra...dle_class_2032

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by Bilal7 Problem that I have with India's economy is that the rich keep getting richer, while the poor keep getting poorer (sorry for the cliché). The middle-class is shrinking and to top it all of, the social issues are really harmful.

Middle class is not shrinking..today's middle class live lives of upper middle class of the 90's...and there is new set of middle class...

With more and more people educated..more and more companies coming up...people have more chance than they ever had in india's history to make a good living for themselves..

ofcourse...the poor are in very bad shape....like in any developing country

[insaan]

Originally Posted by navroks123 Talk about yourself !!!!! If a certain random organizations says a word or two..do not equate with people.... Many movies have been made in India on evils in india..and there has been no major protest by anybody...

I said "some middle class Indians".

Seems I found one on this thread.

[Bilal7]

Originally Posted by Gattuso Agree that the extreme poor remain poor in our system. But you can't be more wrong about the middle class. http://www.mckinseyquarterly.com/Tra...dle_class_2032

Wow, so its actually growing, that's new.

[Bilal7]

Originally Posted by navroks123 Middle class is not shrinking..today's middle class live lives of upper middle class of the 90's...and there is new set of middle class... With more and more people educated..more and more companies coming up...people have more chance than they ever had in india's history to make a good living for themselves.. ofcourse...the poor are in very bad shape....like in any developing country

The bolded holds true for any country. Poverty as a whole has decreased throughout the world.

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by Bilal7 The bolded holds true for any country. Poverty as a whole has decreased throughout the world.

No, What I am trying to see life styles of middle class have improved ..and as gattuso pointed ...more and more people are actually moving into middle class...mostly due to first generation literates...

[kingusama92]

Why would they feel bad about that? It's a reality of India or are people who live in the slums from another planet?

@ Indians who are getting frustrated at that.

[Legend Killer]

Originally Posted by insaan Some middle class Indians, and some in Bollywood have very low self esteem. Some were confused whether to hate Slumdog Millionaire or to celebrate the Oscar success. Same with Pather Panchali by Satyajit Ray. People protested the show of poverty, but when he won the Oscars he became a national hero. They always want affirmation from the West to feel good about themselves. Typical inferiority complex.

AH, finally it looks like we have a sensible Indian poster on PP, its about time

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by insaan I said "some middle class Indians". Seems I found one on this thread.

Aah...Who was one person who was crying of getting accused and getting personal attacked a week or two ago?

I Like slum dog from the day I saw it..and I am happy about the oscars it got..

btw..which Indian protested...traffic signal, for that matter Peepli live....or Salaam Bombay..or numerous other movies on bad things on India..??

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by Legend Killer AH, finally it looks like we have a sensible Indian poster on PP, its about time

I love how every body who has a POV similar to Pakistanis view on India becomes a sensible poster all of a sudden...

[ethan hunt]

when you visit india the extreme poverty tends to hit you in the face , it just seems more visible maybe its the large population , these are the words of an indian.

Zooming on the slippery-smooth Lahore avenues made a Delhi person like me miss the traffic-light beggars and their street-smart street children. There were no slums. There were no homeless people living under plastic sheet awnings. There were no living skeletons scavenging rotten food from the garbage dumps. There were no drug addicts in the dark alleys snorting hashish and cocaine. There were no transvestite sex workers soliciting truck drivers. It was so unlike Delhi. There were not even cows to be seen!

But of course, all the holy cows must have been eaten up by the beef-eating citizens of this holy land.

Read more: http://blogcritics.org/culture/artic...#ixzz1ubgAF68K
And Delhi is considered one of the cleaner cities in india , surely if thats how the capital city is, doesnt say much for the rest of the country .

[insaan]

Originally Posted by navroks123 Aah...Who was one person who was crying of getting accused and getting personal attacked a week or two ago? I Like slum dog from the day I saw it..and I am happy about the oscars it got.. btw..which Indian protested...traffic signal, for that matter Peepli live....or Salaam Bombay..or numerous other movies on bad things on India..??

Dear navroks, I was only amused at the personal attacks. If I was offended I would have responded in kind.

Why are you defending yourself. I just talked about some Indians.

Traffic Signal, Peepli Live are different, because they are made by Indians for Indians.

It is when it goes to Western Audience that people have problem.

Many in Bollywood were against Slumdog. Google it.
Pather Panchali had objection from WB and Indian Govt when it was going to Cannes.

[IgnitedMind]

And If you look at the people quoted in the article..

Rituparna did not deny slums exist...she only said that hollywood always shows negative aspects of India...

Neha Dhupia..we should work harder to change their perception..which is true as well..

aven the other guy said..there is two india's...and hollywood always cashes on the poverty which is also true...

India in hollywood films is mostly about slums..and then slums and then slums..and then call centers...and then curry...

[insaan]

This mentality is not limited to any nationality. Inferiority complex has no boundaries.

During WC, Bangladesh paid money to remove their beggars from the streets.

During CommonWealth games in India, slums were cleared before the Games began.

Even China, during Olympics, used a pretty girl to lip sync, because the real singer did not look pretty.

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by ethan hunt when you visit india the extreme poverty tends to hit you in the face , it just seems more visible maybe its the large population , these are the words of an indian. Zooming on the slippery-smooth Lahore avenues made a Delhi person like me miss the traffic-light beggars and their street-smart street children. There were no slums. There were no homeless people living under plastic sheet awnings. There were no living skeletons scavenging rotten food from the garbage dumps. There were no drug addicts in the dark alleys snorting hashish and cocaine. There were no transvestite sex workers soliciting truck drivers. It was so unlike Delhi. There were not even cows to be seen! But of course, all the holy cows must have been eaten up by the beef-eating citizens of this holy land. Read more: http://blogcritics.org/culture/artic...#ixzz1ubgAF68K And Delhi is considered one of the cleaner cities in india , surely if thats how the capital city is, doesnt say much for the rest of the country .

I do not get it....why are people acting like slums are news to the people here and posting links to justify it..everybody knows it..no?and again why the need to post the link when nobody in the world denied that India has poverty? and again who in the world said Delhi is cleaner city in India..it is not...of all major cities..bangalore is(that again by Indian standards)....don't we all know how cities are in our countries?

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by insaan Dear navroks, I was only amused at the personal attacks. If I was offended I would have responded in kind. Why are you defending yourself. I just talked about some Indians. Traffic Signal, Peepli Live are different, because they are made by Indians for Indians. It is when it goes to Western Audience that people have problem. Many in Bollywood were against Slumdog. Google it. Pather Panchali had objection from WB and Indian Govt when it was going to Cannes.

Again bhai saab, Not many in bollywood..a few..likes of Javed Akhtar if I am not wrong..and the remaining was trying to be in the news cashing on Ar Rahman and Anil Kapoor....

and again protests are different...organizations protest about anything and everything in India...from valentines day to non mumbaikars living in mumbai.....Will you agree that majority Indians likes slumdog and celebrated oscar success of Rahman? No?

[insaan]

Originally Posted by navroks123 Again bhai saab, Not many in bollywood..a few..likes of Javed Akhtar if I am not wrong..and the remaining was trying to be in the news cashing on Ar Rahman and Anil Kapoor.... and again protests are different...organizations protest about anything and everything in India...from valentines day to non mumbaikars living in mumbai.....Will you agree that majority Indians likes slumdog and celebrated oscar success of Rahman? No?

Bhai saab, when did I say many.

I clearly said some, and you got all touchy touchy because of that.

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by insaan This mentality is not limited to any nationality. Inferiority complex has no boundaries. During WC, Bangladesh paid money to remove their beggars from the streets. During CommonWealth games in India, slums were cleared before the Games began. Even China, during Olympics, used a pretty girl to lip sync, because the real singer did not look pretty.

We are all developing countries yaar, we all have our problems..but when we host big tournaments..dont you want your country to be shown in better way than usually is? We all are only doing decnet in the last 10 to 15 yrs..are trying to make a name for ourselves that we are not a poverty striken land of snake charmers.....and to our credit..there is a good part of India which never was before....and when we get a chance to show India to the world...when we are trying to market india....will you show poverty again? ...because poverty is a reality Indians have to live with...and Indian govt have to tackle....but while showing India to the world in events..why would you show poverty...does any country show bad parts of their country in events like common wealth games? again..if we are talking about poverty in India to a non-Indian..it is bad to deny its existence....

but that chinese one was cheap!!

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by insaan Bhai saab, when did I say many. I clearly said some, and you got all touchy touchy because of that.

Some of them are rapists in India...some even rape childen in India...

so? The point is?

[insaan]

Originally Posted by navroks123 We are all developing countries yaar, we all have our problems..but when we host big tournaments..dont you want your country to be shown in better way than usually is? We all are only doing decnet in the last 10 to 15 yrs..are trying to make a name for ourselves that we are not a poverty striken land of snake charmers.....and to our credit..there is a good part of India which never was before....and when we get a chance to show India to the world...when we are trying to market india....will you show poverty again? ...because poverty is a reality Indians have to live with...and Indian govt have to tackle....but while showing India to the world in events..why would you show poverty...does any country show bad parts of their country in events like common wealth games? again..if we are talking about poverty in India to a non-Indian..it is bad to deny its existence.... but that chinese one was cheap!!

I don't want my country to shown in a better way, at the cost of human rights.

Slumdwellers were treated like cattle during the CWG games. There were forced relocations and homeless shelters were closed.

I don't want a show at the cost of my countrymen.

[insaan]

Originally Posted by navroks123 Some of them are rapists in India...some even rape childen in India... so? The point is?

So the point is that rapes happen in India, and even child rape happens.

That was all I said, that some Indians suffer from inferiority complex.

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by insaan I don't want my country to shown in a better way, at the cost of human rights. Slumdwellers were treated like cattle during the CWG games. There were forced relocations and homeless shelters were closed. I don't want a show at the cost of my countrymen.

I was only referring to Idea of marketing India to the people outside India and the way you associated Inferiority complex...

Now this is a different issue...we never treated the poor with respect....and we suck in giving respect to anybody below us...either in poverty or at a work place..there is no dignity of labor..and it is absolute hell of a place to live f your **** poor...with no body helping you while rich and middle class doing what they do...

I completely agree with this post of yours.....and we should learn a great deal from westerners on how respect humans..

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by insaan So the point is that rapes happen in India, and even child rape happens. That was all I said, that some Indians suffer from inferiority complex.

Exactly....I just did not see the need to post the fact that some have inferiority complexes...because there always a bad "some" in every area of any country..and especially in a thread were padosis are getting all enthusiastic and generalizing the whole nation...

[insaan]

Originally Posted by navroks123 Exactly....I just did not see the need to post the fact that some have inferiority complexes...because there always a bad "some" in every area of any country..and especially in a thread were padosis are getting all enthusiastic and generalizing the whole nation...

I only explained the reasons why those Indians got offended.

And I also pointed out how it is not an Indian attribute.

I expect mature people to not generalize on anything. How Pakistanis will react to my posts does not bother me.

No offence meant to you. I love India, just dont like a few things happening in India.

[jusarrived]

Originally Posted by insaan Some middle class Indians, and some in Bollywood have very low self esteem. Some were confused whether to hate Slumdog Millionaire or to celebrate the Oscar success. Same with Pather Panchali by Satyajit Ray. People protested the show of poverty, but when he won the Oscars he became a national hero. They always want affirmation from the West to feel good about themselves. Typical inferiority complex.

funny you of all the people calling some one insecure .

Just bcos some of us take a little more pride about where we come from , dosent necessarily mean we think everything is right about India or Indians .

[IgnitedMind]

^^^

exactly!!!

[insaan]

Originally Posted by jusarrived funny you of all the people calling some one insecure . Just bcos some of us take a little more pride about where we come from , dosent necessarily mean we think everything is right about India or Indians .

When did I talk about you?

My post was for those Indians who are insecure, why would take that personally?

[jusarrived]

Originally Posted by insaan When did I talk about you? My post was for those Indians who are insecure, why would take that personally?

you think this your private chatroom ?

if you dont want responses , start talking only for yourself .

[insaan]

Originally Posted by jusarrived you think this your private chatroom ? if you dont want responses , start talking only for yourself .

I welcome responses. In the same token, why cannot I reply to someone who quotes me.

Why so insecure?

N_H has kept me busy, so might reply late.

[freelance_cricketer]

My retarded countrymen.
I get upset as well watching that stuff on foreign channels and movies but i would vent my anger on my own corrupt countrymen rather than these movie makers who have made such a fantastic film that Bollywood will not be able to make for decades.

[DHONI183]

Off-topic:
What is the storyline of the film.

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer My retarded countrymen. I get upset as well watching that stuff on foreign channels and movies but i would vent my anger on my own corrupt countrymen rather than these movie makers who have made such a fantastic film that Bollywood will not be able to make for decades.

Great post.

Brilliant priciple! All PPers should take note.

[Itachi]

People draw so much conclusion from an article. Lol.

How many interviews did the report take? 1, 2, or 3? Someone said something and it is portrayed as billions of people think same way. Then comes inferiority complex calling....

Slum in india (or any country) is a truth and no indians are deluded enough to disagree it having been watching poor people in day to day life.

. These reports are just e! - news. Should be given same importance as jennifer aniston getting a nose job.

[freelance_cricketer]

Originally Posted by DHONI183 Off-topic: What is the storyline of the film.

An Alien God steals The Tesseract from S.H.I.E.L.D to conquer Earth with the help of another Alien army. The S.H.I.E.L.D then brings all the Superheroes of Earth together to lay the smack down on that Alien God. The rest as they say is movie.
Heck of a stunning movie bhai, must watch.

[Down2Earth]

well there's a reason why bollywood shoot their films outside of india

[freelance_cricketer]

Originally Posted by Down2Earth well there's a reason why bollywood shoot their films outside of india

Hit the nail on head
I am embarrassed.

[Namak_Halaal]

Nav123 : Do you think a Bollywood movie on the reality of India staring A-listers would sell in India?

I remember reading the article you posted on Amir Khan's new show focusing on the real India but the show was not a success?

Don’t get me wrong, I think Movies in general serve as escapism, and I love them, but sometimes movies can and do bring certain issues to light.

[Itachi]

Originally Posted by Down2Earth well there's a reason why bollywood shoot their films outside of india

most of the time, its due to reduce cost of equipments.

In india, actors will be interven by their families in work, less responsible, and hard to manage. Films have a strict schedule. If you can't maintain it, the cost will become twice, thrice of original budget and producers will be reluctant to invest more analyzing the progress.

Just take your group to outside india, they won't be creating so much hassle.

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal Nav123 : Do you think a Bollywood movie on the reality of India staring A-listers would sell in India? I remember reading the article you posted on Amir Khan's new show focusing on the real India but the show was not a success? Don’t get me wrong, I think Movies in general serve as escapism, and I love them, but sometimes movies can and do bring certain issues to light.

Aamir Khan show is doing very well...it has a huge impact too with govt of various states taking actions......and Bollywood A Listers do not do reality movies .....

There are a few bollywood movies which have dealt with issues..but usually not from A-listers..

[soton]

Dont worry writer/director J.P Dutta is working on a script to make Indian Avengers which will expose the Americans lies about Indian poverty.

[Senman]

I think its good that few are embarrassed instead of meekly accepting yes we are like that we should work to develop our country.

So it is good that Indians are getting upset.

Lol at some people taking pot shot at poor people and their living place(Slum), they must have thought all developed countries are developed overnight.

[freelance_cricketer]

^

[Senman]

Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer ^

I think the above post is directed to the false flagger(allegedly)

though doubt all our super-heroes will agree to share the screen.

[Gattuso]

Sunny paaji ought to be the leader ! .. that was one brutal film !

[Spidy201]

What would be pakistani reaction when in every movie they show only terroist camps ?
It will be interesting to know.

[shan]

Originally Posted by Spidy201 What would be pakistani reaction when in every movie they show only terroist camps ? It will be interesting to know.

Indians films already do this, didnt bring down Bollywood popularity in Pakistan.

[IgnitedMind]

Sunny Paaji is the baap of all avengers...and then we have Rajnikanth too ..they will do to hulk what hulk did it to loki..

[Namak_Halaal]

Originally Posted by Senman Lol at some people taking pot shot at poor people and their living place(Slum), they must have thought all developed countries are developed overnight.

Now now, be fair.

No one claimed a country develops over night, but India has had a head-start long before other developed nations in this world. Well before 350 year British rule.

When you have a country that judges people based on their caste, what chance do the poor have? Zilch.

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal Now now, be fair. No one claimed a country develops over night, but India has had a head-start long before other developed nations in this world. Well before 350 year British rule. When you have a country that judges people based on their caste, what chance do the poor have? Zilch.

But that 350 yrs of british affected both us..didn't it? India, pak,bangladesh..all of us!!

All the countries were doing great before British arrived ..May be as kingdoms individually...but still..and then we had to start from a bad position 60 yrs ago...

Even for America with all intellectual people come into..it took a while to become a prosperous nation after its independende....

now what can a nation with 1.2 billion people(1/6th of the globe consisting of 190 odd countries with very lesser resources than it had thanks to british , poverty, caste system do in 60 yrs?????? I say India has actually done decently..and then we have corrupted population too...in 60 yrs..we are generating considerable noise....and now we can pick on poverty and slums....but they were always there....thats the way it has...but its other things that have changed..very fact that people want to point towards poverty as a point against is a reason that we have improved...not long ago..nobody had a need to...because thats all india was about in the news..

[Senman]

Originally Posted by Spidy201 What would be pakistani reaction when in every movie they show only terroist camps ? It will be interesting to know.

What does Pakistan have to do with the thread? its not their film isn't it?

I think when you vote in the next election demand things from your representative or if you are in position of power think of innovative ways on how to develop and rescue people out of poverty.

Let us worry about our country shall we?


@Others:

GOI is doing things to uplift the people but corruption is rife hence the slow-down of process.

Negative perception exists about Slums in International community, it won't go away with some advertisement or simply hiding it under the carpet.

We got to live with it at-least for a decade or two until most of our countrymen is uplifted.

[shan]

Originally Posted by Namak_Halaal Now now, be fair. No one claimed a country develops over night, but India has had a head-start long before other developed nations in this world. Well before 350 year British rule. When you have a country that judges people based on their caste, what chance do the poor have? Zilch.

Only British got head start thanks to industrial revolution while rest of them played catchup game. The problem is India/Pak started it in 1947 while must of the developed world now was already industrialized countries by 1947.

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Originally Posted by shan To do that they themselfs make must of the movies outside India.

That's quite funny but true. While complaining about Hollywood portraying only slums, Indian movie makers themselves constantly make their films abroad in order to make their settings look more glamorous.

I won't bring in the fact that the stars of the films are usually far whiter than most Indians in real life because that's probably touching on another aspect of low self esteem but there's probably linkage.

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat That's quite funny but true. While complaining about Hollywood portraying only slums, Indian movie makers themselves constantly make their films abroad in order to make their settings look more glamorous. I won't bring in the fact that the stars of the films are usually far whiter than most Indians in real life because that's probably touching on another aspect of low self esteem but there's probably linkage.

May be that also because North Indians are more fairer. The Souther Film stars except a couple are more brown because most people are brown in south. Even in Bollywood...There are few white skinned....

All Khans are not white...hrithik roshans and bachans..and kumars...nobody is white..

even heroines..deepika padukon,kajol,rani,priyanka chopra,asin..and even few white are indian white..likes of zinta,ash...katrina being exception

the very fact that you associated inferiority complex to precense of a few fair skinned people speaks about your complex I guess...

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Don't get so touchy friend. I don't have any ulterior motive, I'm just stating what is fairly common knowledge. Which I'm sure you are well aware of in any case.

[freelance_cricketer]

[IgnitedMind]

We shall add Mr. India too.... he will confuse the heck out of villians due to invisibility !!!

[Gattuso]

Salman Khan should be Chulbul Pandey in that pic.

[Senman]

Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat That's quite funny but true. While complaining about Hollywood portraying only slums, Indian movie makers themselves constantly make their films abroad in order to make their settings look more glamorous. I won't bring in the fact that the stars of the films are usually far whiter than most Indians in real life because that's probably touching on another aspect of low self esteem but there's probably linkage.

Well you have no idea about Indian film industry. So stick to what you know about.

[IgnitedMind]

Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat Don't get so touchy friend. I don't have any ulterior motive, I'm just stating what is fairly common knowledge. Which I'm sure you are well aware of in any case.

Well you made a comment about low self esteem..and I made a comment on your comment with proof too..where did I get touchy!! or an Indian replying to pakistani criticism is considered touchy by default..coz I hear this "touchy" thing many times from many people over everything that is retaliated...

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Originally Posted by Senman Well you have no idea about Indian film industry. So stick to what you know about.

If I was wrong why not just show how rather than try to deflect the attack onto the messenger?

[Senman]

Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat If I was wrong why not just show how rather than try to deflect the attack onto the messenger?

How did you get to be the messenger? you are making a blanket statement without any knowledge.
Well how many names of non-white skinned stars of Indian film industry you need? They are too many to count. Also why should I be ashamed of seeing a film with fair skinned hero or heroine? how will that constitute of one being of low-self esteem?
The problem is you guys are seeing what you want to see. Yes poverty is there but wealth is also there, more and more people are getting out of poverty albeit slowly as corruption is also there.

Before commenting about Indian film Industry go through this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_...nal_industries
If you need names or faces please go to respective film industry webpage or simply Google search.

[Bilal7]

Indian Avengers would really be epic and I'm serious!!!

Someone should seize this opportunity with both hands and get that movie done.

[praveen]

The issue is, yes india has slums but it has so many other beautiful things to offer too. Its annoying that hollywood type cast the country to be full of slums and influence movie goers.

[Bilal7]

Originally Posted by praveen The issue is, yes india has slums but it has so many other beautiful things to offer too. Its annoying that hollywood type cast the country to be full of slums and influence movie goers.

A nation is judged by its majority.

[Patriot]

Originally Posted by Bilal7 Problem that I have with India's economy is that the rich keep getting richer, while the poor keep getting poorer (sorry for the cliché). The middle-class is shrinking and to top it all of, the social issues are really harmful.

You are describing most nations with that quote my friend. I can say the same thing for countries in the west.