Team Blue vs Team Green | T20 Practice Match | Lahore | 24/05/12

[Asif321]

hahahahahahahaha sohail tanveer no ball

[Hando]

bawkwas bowler

[venomousx]

Originally Posted by Square Drive This idiot Tanvir doesn;t deserve a place in any team.

+1 to that. It's beyond me that he's in team green and cheema and rahat are in team blue. should have been spanked on his full tosses which he will be in international matches.

[Asif321]

37 runs in just 2.5 overs by Golden Tanveer , imagine wht will happen to him if he bowls to some pinch hitters of other teams

[w8in_4_0402]

Raza Hasan is a must in the team.

Very good t20 bowler and could surprise package of WC10.

May Afridi has to move up the order to compensate Raza into the team

Gul, Sami, Raza, Saeed, Lala. Hafeez. Deadly attack.

[ads101]

Think Asad's done enough to earn his place back in the ODI team hopefully.

[Nav_Sidd]

Cut some slack to Hafeez man... there must hav been an issue with arafat

Just curious...was it a front foot NO ball or a beamer??

[venomousx]

Originally Posted by Nav_Sidd Cut some slack to Hafeez man... there must hav been an issue with arafat Just curious...was it a front foot NO ball or a beamer??

the issue with arafat is that he's crap. Has always been crap. Don't know how much he has paid to get selected.

[Green]

Originally Posted by w8in_4_0402 Imran Nazir says hello.

Hahah Tanvir's death over compatishun.

[Nav_Sidd]

These were probably the best two sides Pak can form atm...except replace some quicks with Gul, Junaid, Talha, or Zia

[qamar84]

Originally Posted by venomousx the issue with arafat is that he's crap. Has always been crap. Don't know how much he has paid to get selected.

i think me and you we are not talking about the same guy man because arafat is a great player

[Nav_Sidd]

Originally Posted by venomousx the issue with arafat is that he's crap. Has always been crap. Don't know how much he has paid to get selected.

TBH the guy can ball at a much better pace than Tanvir or Razzaq....I cannot argue about his effectiveness as I just havent seen him ball tht much in internationals...he seems to be more than happy to keep playing county cricket

[Prince of Pakistan]

Shahrukh ka laadla Sohail 'kukri' Tanvir badnaam hogaya

[Pakistaniboy]

Originally Posted by Prince of Pakistan Shahrukh ka laadla Sohail 'kukri' Tanvir badnaam hogaya

Kukri badnaam hua, sirf shahrukh ke liye

[Bullet Drive]

Very poor captaincy from Hafeez. Ajmal was bowled to early and should have bowled more at the death. Hafeez should have bowled 2 at the start and kept the rest for when H.Sohail arrives. Yasir Arafat wasn't even used when he has the most T20 wickets? Malik wasn't used well when he should have bowled to make up for Tanvir's horror show, yet again.

Very poor captaincy. For some reason I feel if Misbah captained Greens today, they would have won. We need Misbah to captain in T20's. Just not bat.

[Square Drive]

Originally Posted by w8in_4_0402 Now mr Hafeez where was Arafat or Malik? Y didnt Ajmal bowl in the death. It's early to predict but the prof has not made the ideal start here.

Kukri is more experienced, which is why Hafeez made him bowl the last over. Although, Kukri shouldn't have played in the first place.

[BoomBoomCricket]

Shafiq should be in the T20 team

Need at least 1 proper batsmen

[Ahson Afzal]

Team blue won

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Originally Posted by Square Drive Kukri is more experienced, which is why Hafeez made him bowl the last over. Although, Kukri shouldn't have played in the first place.

Most captains and most fans would have bowled Malik 2nd last over. Get an economical spinner on when your pacers are getting thrashed to make the number of runs in the last over unachievable.

He gave it to Sami, who I thought might be a mistake. Though he bowled a very good 2nd last over. Which meant Tanvir's job in the last over should have been easy. But Tanvir mucked it up.

You could argue since Sami did bowl well the 2nd over, how do we know whether Hafeez would have gone with Sami or Tanvir in the last over if malik had bowled 2nd last? Both were getting hit.

The thing is though Hafeez bowled Sami in the second, which meant he had to bowl Tanvir in the last (you can't bowl a part time spinner in the last too risky). Malik I feel would be very unlikely to be thrashed. Thus by choosing to bowl both Sami and Tanvir, there's a bigger risk that one may get thrashed and result in losing the game.

[Ahson Afzal]

I said before the match that I hope Tanvir gets spanked and it happened. And I'm really happy about it too! . I mean come on this was just a practice game. I hope Tanvir gets dropped for once and for all now, clearly the worst bowler to play for Pakistan, and oh yes well played Shafiq

[Ahson Afzal]

This match should be an eyeopener that our batting in T20 is pathetic and Tanvir does not warrant a spot in the side

[sehsan]

Guys, These are practice games and i think it was a right move for hafeez to give Sohail Tanvir a go and see how he performs. He has been pathetic and i am sure paksitan will pick the right combination against SL.

[Prince of Pakistan]

Originally Posted by Pakistaniboy Kukri badnaam hua, sirf shahrukh ke liye

How can someone support such a person is beyond me

[LastLaugh_PK]

Overall good game for Pakistan... Tanvir got smashed all over the park and Farhat got out for a duck

[Ahson Afzal]

Originally Posted by LastLaugh_PK Overall good game for Pakistan... Tanvir got smashed all over the park and Farhat got out for a duck

[pakcricketfan]

Not an ideal start for Hafeez, the T20 captain - lost to a fairly inexperienced side. But at the end of the day, it was a practice match. Its main purpose was to provide them with some match practice.

Sohail Tanvir - the less said, the better.

[talha3]

Originally Posted by LastLaugh_PK Overall good game for Pakistan... Tanvir got smashed all over the park and Farhat got out for a duck

Well said. I don't know why everyone's getting upset about Tanvir bowling at the end. It was just a practice match and that too against our own players so 'Pakistan' doesn't really lose out. The more Tanvir and Farhat get a chance (and fail), the more the selectors and management will have a reason not to play in the national team.

[Ahson Afzal]

[Bilal7]

Hafeez is clearly letting the pressure get to him, getting just a run-a-ball fifty when batting first on a batting track showed how he was trying to get a big score, which he did but at the expense of the team as a whole.

Choosing Tanvir at the death was another negative decision, Tanvir must have influenced the prof's decision in some way or the other but Hafeez should have used his brains and bowled someone else, anyone else.

This was just a practice match though, so no need to panic.

[zulfiqar]

lol scorecard link?

[ads101]

Originally Posted by Bilal7 Hafeez is clearly letting the pressure get to him, getting just a run-a-ball fifty when batting first on a batting track showed how he was trying to get a big score, which he did but at the expense of the team as a whole. Choosing Tanvir at the death was another negative decision, Tanvir must have influenced the prof's decision in some way or the other but Hafeez should have used his brains and bowled someone else, anyone else. This was just a practice match though, so no need to panic.

Asad got around a run a ball 70. Did it at a similar strike rate. And he was the main reason for the blues winning.

I think the other batting partners let Hafeez down personally. If he'd scored the bulk of the runs, the guys at the other end should have been hitting hard. But they all got out early. And some of them wasted balls too. The only guy in Hafeez's team it seems who scored faster than him was Afridi (and arafat if you count his 7 runs). Umar akmal was more or less the same, but Hafeez got a lot more runs than he did.

There was no one else to bowl but Tanvir sadly. Got to back your main bowlers. After Hafeez didn't chose Malik in the 2nd last over. Which he should have. That's where they lost it. Malik 2nd last over, sami last, and reckon they probably would have won.

I do wonder why Arafat didn't bowl at all, but giving him last over without some overs first would be asking for trouble really. He wouldn't have had time to adjust, you don't bring someone new in last over against a batsman who's already settled at the crease. Then again not sure why the greens went with so many bowlers especially since Malik and Hafeez were in the side too and capable of bowling 4 overs each if needed.

Ain't a good start for Hafeez unfortunately, perhaps his captaincy was bad I dunno. But don't think his individual performance is to blame here. Especially since Asad performed a similar sort of knock with the bat and his team won.

[sehsan]

Originally Posted by ads101 Asad got around a run a ball 70. Did it at a similar strike rate. And he was the main reason for the blues winning. I think the other batting partners let Hafeez down personally. If he'd scored the bulk of the runs, the guys at the other end should have been hitting hard. But they all got out early. And some of them wasted balls too. The only guy in Hafeez's team it seems who scored faster than him was Afridi (and arafat if you count his 7 runs). Umar akmal was more or less the same, but Hafeez got a lot more runs than he did. There was no one else to bowl but Tanvir sadly. Got to back your main bowlers. After Hafeez didn't chose Malik in the 2nd last over. Which he should have. That's where they lost it. Malik 2nd last over, sami last, and reckon they probably would have won. I do wonder why Arafat didn't bowl at all, but giving him last over without some overs first would be asking for trouble really. He wouldn't have had time to adjust, you don't bring someone new in last over against a batsman who's already settled at the crease. Then again not sure why the greens went with so many bowlers especially since Malik and Hafeez were in the side too and capable of bowling 4 overs each if needed. Ain't a good start for Hafeez unfortunately, perhaps his captaincy was bad I dunno. But don't think his individual performance is to blame here. Especially since Asad performed a similar sort of knock with the bat and his team won.

If a part-timer like Malik would have bowled 2nd last over, Hafeez team would have lost in 19 overs.

You always give your best bowler a go in 19th over. These are practice matches and hafeez knows what his main bowlers are (Ajmal, Afridi). He was trying sami and Tanvir, haveez must have wanted to see how they perform underpressure. Sami came good in 19th and tanvir didnt. These matches would give opportunity for hafeez to look at his squad and plan accordingly in the matches. There should be no place for Tanvir in Squad let alone XI.

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Originally Posted by talha3 Well said. I don't know why everyone's getting upset about Tanvir bowling at the end. It was just a practice match and that too against our own players so 'Pakistan' doesn't really lose out. The more Tanvir and Farhat get a chance (and fail), the more the selectors and management will have a reason not to play in the national team.

I'm not upset lol, I'm glad the blues won . Always nice to see the underdog side win. They're both Pakistani teams, it's not like I'm going against Pakistan by supporting the blues.

Biggest thing to take away from this (though I know PCB selectors won't ) is that Asad has being doing well in limited overs in domestic. He had consistently decent scores lately, and he seems to be scoring at an improved strike rate. And now a matchwinning 70 odd knock to defeat what's supposed to be the better team. There's evidence that the guy is and is looking to improve. Worth another shot in the limited overs side I feel. Know he isn't in for T20s, but at least he can play ODIs. And play him at three, where he seems to be making these knocks now. After all he might as well play there, there aren't many who really want to play there anyway.

[talha3]

^ Fully agree with you on Asad. He's the best number 3 available at the moment. The others are either too slow or not suited to the position. Even in ODIs, he's shown glimpses of being a good no 3. It's just the innings where he's a bit out of touch and gets bogged down that form his weakness.

[Pakistaniboy]

Originally Posted by ads101 I'm not upset lol, I'm glad the blues won . Always nice to see the underdog side win. They're both Pakistani teams, it's not like I'm going against Pakistan by supporting the blues. Biggest thing to take away from this (though I know PCB selectors won't ) is that Asad has being doing well in limited overs in domestic. He had consistently decent scores lately, and he seems to be scoring at an improved strike rate. And now a matchwinning 70 odd knock to defeat what's supposed to be the better team. There's evidence that the guy is and is looking to improve. Worth another shot in the limited overs side I feel. Know he isn't in for T20s, but at least he can play ODIs. And play him at three, where he seems to be making these knocks now. After all he might as well play there, there aren't many who really want to play there anyway.

Exactly! Asad is best at 3, but we cant do anything till Younis is out of the team..

[Looney]

scorecard ?

[Square Drive]

Originally Posted by Looney scorecard ?

http://www.pcb.com.pk/match/23606.html

[Looney]

Originally Posted by Square Drive http://www.pcb.com.pk/match/23606.html

Shukran ya habibi

Asad Shafiq 71 not out :cheetah
M Sami wicketless :cheetahx2

[HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR]

im sad khalid latif failed again

[Looney]

Originally Posted by HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR im sad khalid latif failed again

Bare bare deshoN maiN aisi choti choti baataiN hoti rehti haiN

[360master]

Any highlights for any of the matches guys?

[kingusama92]

Raza Hasan was class.

He could bring the surprise factor in SL. Afridi, Ajmal and Hasan.

[ads101]

Originally Posted by kingusama92 Raza Hasan was class. He could bring the surprise factor in SL. Afridi, Ajmal and Hasan.

The thing is if Afridi and Ajmal are in the team, Raza doesn't get a spot. I think three spinner and hafeez would be too much.

This is why in addition it's important for Afridi to not just be a "specialist bowler" for ODIs. We've got too many young bowlers coming in about now. I would be surprised if Raza outbowls Afridi in ODIs. Afridi has to be an all rounder, bat and ball. Otherwise I don't see much point in continuing with him except in T20s (but then again do we really want T20 specialists?).

[Looney]

There is also Yasir Shah who has been doing well

[waqar_ahmad]

Amazing performances from malik and farhat

[waqar_ahmad]

And the other amazing performance was from Sohail Tanvir.

Malik, Farhat and Tanvir can walk into any top team in the world

[kingusama92]

Originally Posted by ads101 The thing is if Afridi and Ajmal are in the team, Raza doesn't get a spot. I think three spinner and hafeez would be too much. This is why in addition it's important for Afridi to not just be a "specialist bowler" for ODIs. We've got too many young bowlers coming in about now. I would be surprised if Raza outbowls Afridi in ODIs. Afridi has to be an all rounder, bat and ball. Otherwise I don't see much point in continuing with him except in T20s (but then again do we really want T20 specialists?).

I was talking for the T20 world cup in SL.

A bowling attack of Ajmal, Afridi, Hasan and Gul is respectable. There are usually spinning tracks in SL.

Hafeez can open the bowling with Gul. You then have three high quality spinners to follow.

Our 2nd T20 pace bowling option has always been questionable after Amir got banned. There is no quality there, so might as well go with another spinner.

[ads101]

Originally Posted by kingusama92 I was talking for the T20 world cup in SL. A bowling attack of Ajmal, Afridi, Hasan and Gul is respectable. There are usually spinning tracks in SL. Hafeez can open the bowling with Gul. You then have three high quality spinners to follow. Our 2nd T20 pace bowling option has always been questionable after Amir got banned. There is no quality there, so might as well go with another spinner.

yeah I know just deviated.

Just saying Raza won't get a shot since Afridi and ajmal have locked down the spinner spots.

While we don't have a proper second pacer, I don't think we'll take the risk of going with what will be four spinners. If the pitch favors pacers then we're going to be in trouble with just one pacer.

[kingusama92]

Originally Posted by ads101 yeah I know just deviated. Just saying Raza won't get a shot since Afridi and ajmal have locked down the spinner spots. While we don't have a proper second pacer, I don't think we'll take the risk of going with what will be four spinners. If the pitch favors pacers then we're going to be in trouble with just one pacer.

Yeah, they'll be carrying that extra spinner and play based on the pitch.

If the pitch is made for spin: Hasan in, pacer out

If the pitch is made for fast bowling: Pacer in, Hasan out

It's worth a try cause Hasan is definitely quality at the moment. He's dominated on flat tracks of Pakistan.

[GujjarSher]

Tanvir & Farhat - Legends

[hassanhammad]

i wonder why was yasir arafat played if he was not to be bowled??any answers? poor captaincy by hafeez!

[Green]

Why hasn't the 2nd T20 practice match started?

Wasn't it supposed to be today?

[Hamxa89]

^ Any idea guys?

[Green]

Originally Posted by Hamxa89 ^ Any idea guys?

This is just a guess, but they might have replaced it by the celebration ceremony for the Asia cup.

[LastLaugh_PK]

When is the second one supposed to start?

[Pakistaniboy]

Originally Posted by Green Why hasn't the 2nd T20 practice match started? Wasn't it supposed to be today?

It was

Maybe its tomorrow instead.. The players need rest like all of us.

[HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR]

any highlights guys??

[Legend Killer]

Originally Posted by HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR im sad khalid latif failed again

Didn't he get a 77 of 44 balls, in the PCB vs Chairman XI T20 that was played about a week ago?

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Originally Posted by Looney There is also Yasir Shah who has been doing well

i think he is the 3rd test spinner, good allround cricketer, one of the best fielders i have seen, no mug with the bat either , I think he should have had more chances in odis, though i feel raza will do better in limited overs, but nasir should be there for the next test series we have against a minnow

[HaMmy FinE LeG StriKeR]

Originally Posted by Legend Killer Didn't he get a 77 of 44 balls, in the PCB vs Chairman XI T20 that was played about a week ago?

yes, but unless he performs each and every game, he will out