Sangakara !! Is he Shameless or what?

[MRSN]

No doubt he is a world class batsman and a very good wicket keeper but

he appeals on everything and anything even on that which are evidently not out..today again first he shouted for lbw off Azhar when the ball was missing the leg by far though he made it look like it was plumb and then later on, on Umar's dismissal he threw the ball in the air and made it look there was a big outside edge which really had a last impact on umpire's mind but the replays clearly showed the ball was no where near the bat and umpire had a shocker..

I remember YK was caught in arguments with him for over appealing last time we played in SL so not the first time seen Sanga do that.. In almost every SLn game you will see Sanga appealing for ones which are obviously not out..Is he really the gentleman of a player?

[Strike!]

He's a cheat, That's for sure.

[Free Hit]

exactly, i hate every time he appeals....

[Hassan0987]

Totally agree, never liked him

[MVP26]

Biggest cheat in the game.

[Aly]

Reminds me of Wasim..When experienced/ star players of countries like PAK, SL know the quality of domestic umpires & the overwhelming effect their query can have on them..they use it to their advantage & even have not outs turned into outs for them ..hence the over appealing!

Won't be surprised if the same sanga becomes a saint with nuetral umpires on both ends or outside Lanka

[cricketpassion]

Never like sangakara, too arrogant and cheat

[leatherface58]

didnt he give the mcc spirit of cricket lecture last year?

if yes, how can he not play in the spirit? i dont believe you all at all.

[James]

Sri Lankan great.

[kingusama92]

That was a disgraceful and unsportsmanlike appeal.

I know people will cite that everything is fair when it comes to winning. However, in many years of cricket that I have seen, most keepers do not appeal for something like that. Most will give a little "oh!" and maybe raise their hand in anguish. Sanga was appealing as if it was a huge edge. Trying to con the umpire because he knew they were gullible.

In the end, the umpire should know better. This is international cricket and trusting based on the volume of the appeal is shocking. You would expect that from a makeshift umpire in a local tape ball game.

What Sangakkara doesn't realize is umpires take notice of trash like that.

[leatherface58]

Originally Posted by James Sri Lankan great.

is that some kind of backhanded compliment?

[90MPH]

Never really liked him - especially in the last few years.

[90MPH]

Most of the Sri Lankans are classy though, hes just a rare exception.

[cricketworm]

He does this all the time! Surprised to see people noticing him now. (if they are noticing him now then).

He is Lawyer (Liar) after all! So one shouldn't be surprised by his behavior.

[James]

Originally Posted by leatherface58 is that some kind of backhanded compliment?

No, just a literal comment. He is a fantastic cricketer who has played classic innings home and away, and he also contributed the great Spirit of Cricket speech. I'm not too bothered by a few cheeky little things that he does on the field here and there.

[cricketworm]

LOL Great Fake Spirit of Cricket Speech!

With his fake accent and fake feelings!

[cricketworm]

What's the point of fake speech if you don't follow it in REAL match!!!

Sanga is wonderful batsman to watch but that's all my praising can go for him. Dude is fake!

[Liverpoolred]

He sure is shameless.

Jayawardene comes across as a sore loser too.

[Nav_Sidd]

Originally Posted by leatherface58 didnt he give the mcc spirit of cricket lecture last year? if yes, how can he not play in the spirit? i dont believe you all at all.

That was one of the most shocking events of my life

[Anfield]

I don't understand why you guys cry on such trivial things?

[cricketworm]

We cry because Sanga Cries, and I don't like seeing top cricketer cries all the time.

[Anfield]

over appealing isn't crying. I agree he has done pretty stupid things in the past but calling his "shameless" cuz he over appeals is quite ridiculous IMO.

[Zaz]

Originally Posted by James No, just a literal comment. He is a fantastic cricketer who has played classic innings home and away, and he also contributed the great Spirit of Cricket speech. I'm not too bothered by a few cheeky little things that he does on the field here and there.

So contributing to the spirit of cricket speech now holds more value than acting on the spirit of cricket on the field???

[Equinox]

Doesn't Adnan Akmal do the same thing?

[James]

Heat, kitchen...

[Watsupdoc]

Originally Posted by kingusama92 That was a disgraceful and unsportsmanlike appeal. I know people will cite that everything is fair when it comes to winning. However, in many years of cricket that I have seen, most keepers do not appeal for something like that. Most will give a little "oh!" and maybe raise their hand in anguish. Sanga was appealing as if it was a huge edge. Trying to con the umpire because he knew they were gullible. In the end, the umpire should know better. This is international cricket and trusting based on the volume of the appeal is shocking. You would expect that from a makeshift umpire in a local tape ball game. What Sangakkara doesn't realize is umpires take notice of trash like that.

Completely agree with this. What Sanga did was not in the spirit of the game, but ultimately it's the umpires job to give correct decisions and not be influenced by a keeper 'over-appealing'.

[cricketworm]

Originally Posted by Anfield over appealing isn't crying. I agree he has done pretty stupid things in the past but calling his "shameless" cuz he over appeals is quite ridiculous IMO.

Actually it is! Excessive Crying to umpires to give that Out. In fact, I think shameless is perfect word as whole world is seeing him doing that all the time!

He cried about India being number 1 and his team not getting enough away tests, he cried about toss in the final, he cried about Indian hotels and accommodations!

[Gabbar Singh]

When a bowler pitches the ball (which eventually hits the pads) outside leg and then appeals for an lbw, is he also a cheat?

[cricketworm]

no, bowlers have right to appeal! Sanga appeals when there is clear wide down the leg, but he appeals for caught behind!

I don't want to use the term him as a cheat but shady indeed.

[PIE_CHUCKER]

Its just the Srilankan way.

Has anyone played a Srilankan club side? Its usualy very spicey, they apeal for everything, cheat with scoring, umpiring, swear, shout, scream, rude and so on. Usualy the whole game is a very sour affair.

Our club has a regular fixture with a Srilankan side every year. Most of the seniors skip this because they cannot be bothered to stoop down to gutter level in a cricket match.

So im not surprised about Sanga, its pretty normal for them!!

[PakPosheeda]

I cant stand Sanga. Some people over appeal. Sanga has taken it to the level where cheat would be the fitting title.

My respect from him went down long time ago, when he took over the captaincy. After loss, he'd never give the opposition any credit, or at least in Pakistan's case he never did. After we thrashed SL in the T20 WC final, as a captain he never gave any credit to Pakistan or congratulated them in the presentation ceremony. Thats not the only occasion, but the biggest one of them. I remember even on SL cricket forum, some of their fans admitted that Sanga was coming across as a sore loser.

His appealing to the effect of cheating is the biggest reason why I cant stand him. Annoying is one thing, which Jayasuriya and Kaluwitharana's appeals were too, but they didn't appeal just to cheat the umpires. Sanga does exactly that. To answer the OP, quite obviously Sanga has no shame or conscious.

[kingusama92]

Originally Posted by Anfield over appealing isn't crying. I agree he has done pretty stupid things in the past but calling his "shameless" cuz he over appeals is quite ridiculous IMO.

Over appealing is fine. This is a part of the game and most wicket keepers do that.

However, appealing something that was so blatantly not out is a stain on his character.

[IgnitedMind]

I always cringe when this man represents the spirit of cricket or whatever that is....

Remember the WC 2011 Toss Incident, Sangakkara knew what he called when Dhoni spun the coin..and when the referee did not hear it and asked sanga what he called...he did not say anything and then re toss happened..how can one not know what he called a couple of seconds ago. He won the toss the second time..oh well...we won the important one ..

Even that Bowling wide when sehwag was 99and India needed 1 to win, it was sangakkara who ordered Randiv to do that....

[Emperor2kings]

Originally Posted by PakPosheeda His appealing to the effect of cheating is the biggest reason why I cant stand him. Annoying is one thing, which Jayasuriya and Kaluwitharana's appeals were too, but they didn't appeal just to cheat the umpires. Sanga does exactly that. To answer the OP, quite obviously Sanga has no shame or conscious.

Or maybe he is just easily excitable.

[Down2Earth]

I've noticed this with sangakkara more than anyone else too. he's a sore loser.

[Black Zero]

Yes, he is a shameless!

[LegendAli]

I always looked at Sanga as the respected veteran, never personally noticed this but yeah this is very low of him, I'm pretty surprised, but good thing is he is about to retire.

[Legend Killer]

TBH I don't mind it, Sanga plays to win and wininng is all that matters in the end.

[freelance_cricketer]

If anyone deserved an intense dislike club thread, its him. Certainly up there with Ponting as one of the classless blokes in Cricket. This guy is a complete

[kungfu90]

Sometimes he collects a clear blatant wide ball and claps and reacts like it was a very good ball to influence umpire so that they can get away with it. Then umpire signals it a wide and his reactions are like he is in a big shock.
I just can't stop laughing at that time.

[jeetu]

Its a typical Wicket Keeper behavior. They shout for anything and everything.

[LegCutter]

Oh my God, you guys are such cry-babies; this is a game of cricket guys you go out there to win! It's the umpire's job to see whether one is out or not. Sangakarra WILL appeal and if it really is miles apart from the bat, then it's the umpire's job to not be blind as a bat.

Cricketers arent saints, they go out there to win. As long as they dont take money to lose the game or drop catches, they are in perfectly reasonable rights to appeal however wherever they ant.

[kamran_uk]

This guy is too arrogant never liked him never will

[freelance_cricketer]

Originally Posted by LegCutter Oh my God, you guys are such cry-babies; this is a game of cricket guys you go out there to win! It's the umpire's job to see whether one is out or not. Sangakarra WILL appeal and if it really is miles apart from the bat, then it's the umpire's job to not be blind as a bat. Cricketers arent saints, they go out there to win. As long as they dont take money to lose the game or drop catches, they are in perfectly reasonable rights to appeal however wherever they ant.

Right, but Sanga is indeed a complete douche-bag.



The one with YK got deleted.

[IndianWillow]

Sanga is well within his rights to act the way he does, but he is no saint like he pretends to be.

[LegCutter]

Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer Right, but Sanga is indeed a complete douche-bag. The one with YK got deleted.

The throw hit Razzaq's shoe thus deflecting away, and Razzaq took a run after that. Sangakarra was right to be angry.

[James]

Originally Posted by LegCutter Oh my God, you guys are such cry-babies; this is a game of cricket guys you go out there to win! It's the umpire's job to see whether one is out or not. Sangakarra WILL appeal and if it really is miles apart from the bat, then it's the umpire's job to not be blind as a bat. Cricketers arent saints, they go out there to win. As long as they dont take money to lose the game or drop catches, they are in perfectly reasonable rights to appeal however wherever they ant.

Precisely. It's a man's game.

Lots of fairies on PP.

[spaceshot]

Originally Posted by LegCutter Oh my God, you guys are such cry-babies; this is a game of cricket guys you go out there to win! It's the umpire's job to see whether one is out or not. Sangakarra WILL appeal and if it really is miles apart from the bat, then it's the umpire's job to not be blind as a bat. Cricketers arent saints, they go out there to win. As long as they dont take money to lose the game or drop catches, they are in perfectly reasonable rights to appeal however wherever they ant.

Ump's job is to see who is out, and not be conned into giving incorrect decisions.

Umpires basically are there to get the LBW given as they are the most contentious and the run outs maybe. The rest should have been very clear but the current crop of the players esp have made it a surety that the pressure tactics are applied and be wriggled out of the situation at any cost.

There are two set of spectators out there. One who believe that if the umpire gives it out is the law of the land, and if he gives an incorrect decision then so be it. (the fielding side in such cases stoops to some real low standards and so does the batting side, and we have a ridiculous way of playing the game)

The other set would rather see some honesty from the cricketers.
No need to call the latter as cry babies or anything similar.

[Ironcat]

Technically, nothing is stopping him from doing what he does, but it certainly eats his spirit of the cricket thing for breakfast.

[farazaidi]

thats a typical Srilankan thing to do. Remember in the T20, Khalid Latif edged the ball to first slip and Jaywerdene caught it on bounce. Its all fine to appeal then but the guy was furious when the appeal was turned down as the ball had clearly bounced infront of him. He gave a earful to the umpire and stupid Srilankan commentators wanted the umpire to take Mahela's word just because he is 'oh so great' cricketer. What utter nonsense !

I'm not too bothered by the end result as ultimately, it is umpire's job to make the right decision but these numpties shouldnt be giving speeches on spirit of cricket !

[avidlearner]

Over-appealing to pressurize the umpires in getting favorable decisions has become the norm in today's game. Even the great Gilly was not so saint when it came to appealing for blatant not-out decisions(Eg.Sydney test - Dravid).

It has become part and parcel of the game now, so singling out Sanga on this may not be right.

[avidlearner]

Originally Posted by farazaidi thats a typical Srilankan thing to do. Remember in the T20, Khalid Latif edged the ball to first slip and Jaywerdene caught it on bounce. Its all fine to appeal then but the guy was furious when the appeal was turned down as the ball had clearly bounced infront of him. He gave a earful to the umpire and stupid Srilankan commentators wanted the umpire to take Mahela's word just because he is 'oh so great' cricketer. What utter nonsense ! I'm not too bothered by the end result as ultimately, it is umpire's job to make the right decision but these numpties shouldnt be giving speeches on spirit of cricket !

TBH, it was Tony Greig who was keep on going about taking the words of Mahela and how honest player he is.

[farazaidi]

Originally Posted by avidlearner TBH, it was Tony Greig who was keep on going about taking the words of Mahela and how honest player he is.

Well I dont remember who it was but it is pathetic to say the least. Took me back to infamous Sydney test when India had the misery of taking Ponting's word

I'd never take their word ever. That is equivalent to believing a footballer after a dive. And as regard to fairies, how many of you like a certain footballer when you know he has the habit of diving/faking to induce a foul? I'd say not much. I dont !

[avidlearner]

Originally Posted by farazaidi Well I dont remember who it was but it is pathetic to say the least. Took me back to infamous Sydney test when India had the misery of taking Ponting's word I'd never take their word ever. That is equivalent to believing a footballer after a dive. And as regard to fairies, how many of you like a certain footballer when you know he has the habit of diving/faking to induce a foul? I'd say not much. I dont !

I am with you on this, IMHO any unclear decisions need to be made by Third/TV Umpire (no one is saint and everyone plays for winning at any cost that includes unethical appealing for catches which are not edged)

[LegCutter]

If anything our players should take a page or two from their book and learn how to appeal properly.

[DHONI183]

A great batsman is Kumar Sangakkara but very, very, very over-rated as a gentleman, no doubt!

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...5&postcount=91

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...9&postcount=70

[farazaidi]

Originally Posted by LegCutter If anything our players should take a page or two from their book and learn how to appeal properly.

thanks for the advice, but no thanks!

there is a difference between appealing properly, and conning the umpire even after he's made the decision with excessive appealing.

[forzapakistan]

I love Sanga, he's my favourite player. I love his cheekiness on the field, it spices things up and he just oozes class. Moreover, so many keepers overappeal, including Pakistanis, so... Personally I find the Akmals obnoxious in this regard, but definitely not Sanga.

I don't get why people harp on about his supposedly fake English accent. He speaks excellent English, it's a pleasure to listen to him.

If I happened to meet him in real life, my shyness wouldn't prevent me from approaching him to say hello and pay him my compliments because I'm sure he would be super gracious, as others who were lucky enough to meet him reported.

[LegCutter]

Originally Posted by forzapakistan I love Sanga, he's my favourite player. I love his cheekiness on the field, it spices things up and he just oozes class. Moreover, so many keepers overappeal, including Pakistanis, so... Personally I find the Akmals obnoxious in this regard, but definitely not Sanga. I don't get why people harp on about his supposedly fake English accent. He speaks excellent English, it's a pleasure to listen to him. If I happened to meet him in real life, my shyness wouldn't prevent me from approaching him to say hello and pay him my compliments because I'm sure he would be super gracious, as others who were lucky enough to meet him reported.

That's exactly how I feel about Sanga too. He may not be Mother Teresa but he's definitely a very classy man who plays to win, he is a brilliant batsman, a reliable keeper and just an overall class character.

He does not 'con' umpires lol, he appeals and if the umpire was so blind as to not see that Sangakarra or whomever is appealing is in the wrong, then the umpire just isnt a very a good one.

I remember how the great Shane Warne used to bully umpires as well, but Aleem Dar would never give in. It's the job of the umpire to seperate the wrong appeals from the genuine ones.

[ads101]

It's not wrong to appeal on anything IMO. If there's a chance but it might be given out appeal. Everyone does it.

As long as you don't tamper with the stumps like Prior did , it's fine.

Sangakaara may not be a gentleman, but he's one of the most determined cricketers to win matches. Which is better than being gentleman in sport.

[spaceshot]

Originally Posted by forzapakistan I love Sanga, he's my favourite player. I love his cheekiness on the field, it spices things up and he just oozes class. Moreover, so many keepers overappeal, including Pakistanis, so... Personally I find the Akmals obnoxious in this regard, but definitely not Sanga. I don't get why people harp on about his supposedly fake English accent. He speaks excellent English, it's a pleasure to listen to him. If I happened to meet him in real life, my shyness wouldn't prevent me from approaching him to say hello and pay him my compliments because I'm sure he would be super gracious, as others who were lucky enough to meet him reported.

Alert for Insulin dependent people.
Too much of bromance/man-love (whatever it is in here) exhibited.

[LegCutter]

Originally Posted by spaceshot Alert for Insulin dependent people. Too much of bromance/man-love (whatever it is in here) exhibited.

It's called 'not hating blindly'. People here should try it some time.

[Bullet Drive]

Originally Posted by ads101 It's not wrong to appeal on anything IMO. If there's a chance but it might be given out appeal. Everyone does it. As long as you don't tamper with the stumps like Prior did , it's fine. Sangakaara may not be a gentleman, but he's one of the most determined cricketers to win matches. Which is better than being gentleman in sport.

But cricket is a gentlemen's game isn't it?

[spaceshot]

Originally Posted by LegCutter It's called 'not hating blindly'. People here should try it some time.

You just need to make a normal post sans the sugar syrupy eulogizing which was reeking in there.
Well cant help it if you missed the obvious insinuations.

Speaking of not hating blindly, i didnt raised a stink over his toss call in the finals of WC. English commentator raised a hue and cry on his end and i could have quoted him for taking adv of a neutral person's pov,
But he is def not the classy individual people keep mentioning. Not AS classy as he is made out to be if anything.

People saying that just need Look up the sledging videos of his. I think he was doing it to Steve waugh ..? The way he made all the noise and went with a silly rant was really idiotic. Classy people dont need to indulge in that.

[dadvoc]

yeah, everyone let's board the band-wagon
someone is calling him cheat, HE IS A CHEAT ---
I hate this mentality, we start from a hypothesis and suddenly to some people it becomes an evident fact.
Sangakara is one of the most honest and down to earth cricketer I have seen.
Sledging, appealing and intimidating your opponent is a part of this game, if Sanga also does it, there is no harm. He is neither a cheat nor arrogant.

[Raza_Haider_Mohammad]

well Pakistani players have also done the same things in the past....Moin Khan,Rashid Latif used to take one bounce catch and appeal.....Javed Miandad,Shahid Afridi are hopeless when it comes to sportsmanship.....shoaib akhtar wasim akram,waqar younus deliberately used to come in the way of batsmen taking a run....all of them were downright cheats.....so they are shameless too

[khurramjamil]

Sanga has always been like that! i think everyone know that even the umpires and the commentators so no worries ...

[Waseem]

People defending Sanga Probably don't know that the hypocrite gets angry when others do what he does so he is a cry baby. If a keeper appeals when Sanga is batting, he shakes his head as if the keeper is the biggest cheat on earth. He has done that at times when there was hardly any doubt that he was out so he deserves all the criticism and definitely is not as great a person as he is a player.

[LegendAli]

Originally Posted by Waseem People defending Sanga Probably don't know that the hypocrite gets angry when others do what he does so he is a cry baby. If a keeper appeals when Sanga is batting, he shakes his head as if the keeper is the biggest cheat on earth. He has done that at times when there was hardly any doubt that he was out so he deserves all the criticism and definitely is not as great a person as he is a player.

Yeah, I remember him doing that a couple times, this right here should tell all his lovers what a cheater he is!

People actually calling him a gentleman? just wow.

[Green Leopard]

Sanga is one of the biggest single dirty hypocrite going around world cricket, Swann could maybe match him in these stakes.

[Hamxa89]

Shameless for sure. He hates it when wicket-keepers go for ridiculous appeals against him and has the guts to give them the glare. But when he's keeping, everything is fair because it's a man's game? He is a cheat in my books.

Oh an yeah, the fake accent is just too much. The way he tries to over pronounce each and every word. Its unbelievable how some of the people think that its natural and he speaks "excellent" English.

[PakPosheeda]

Sanga appealing for a foul during warm ups

[DHONI183]

Originally Posted by PakPosheeda Sanga appealing for a foul during warm ups

What a pick!!!!

[spaceshot]

Originally Posted by Raza_Haider_Mohammad well Pakistani players have also done the same things in the past....Moin Khan,Rashid Latif used to take one bounce catch and appeal.....Javed Miandad,Shahid Afridi are hopeless when it comes to sportsmanship.....shoaib akhtar wasim akram,waqar younus deliberately used to come in the way of batsmen taking a run....all of them were downright cheats.....so they are shameless too

Thing is, how many pakistanis have seen those incidents as an effort to cheat and not as 'These are part n parcel of the game now' alibi to look elsewhere when they happened.

[Lethalweapon]

Originally Posted by dadvoc yeah, everyone let's board the band-wagon someone is calling him cheat, HE IS A CHEAT --- I hate this mentality, we start from a hypothesis and suddenly to some people it becomes an evident fact. Sangakara is one of the most honest and down to earth cricketer I have seen. Sledging, appealing and intimidating your opponent is a part of this game, if Sanga also does it, there is no harm. He is neither a cheat nor arrogant.

You know NOTHING about the evil side of Sanga. read this thread again. it is more than 'Sledging, appealing and intimidating your opponent'.

[Nazmus Sadat Sohan]

He can be good player but not gentle man !!!

[Crazy_K]

Took you guys a while, but you've finally realised he is scum

[Hamxa89]

Originally Posted by Crazy_K Took you guys a while, but you've finally realised he is scum

Any incident with India? I can recall numerous involving Pakistan but dunno about you guys..

[Saurav]

Originally Posted by Hamxa89 Any incident with India? I can recall numerous involving Pakistan but dunno about you guys..

they r much more with India I think.we played SL like everyday so chances r more

[Hamxa89]

Originally Posted by Saurav they r much more with India I think.we played SL like everyday so chances r more

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